Re: Clef change before first note
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: \partial 8 s8 \bar This seems to render a fairly acceptable result, but it really feels like a hack. Is there a less convoluted solution? Notice that the problem is only seen when doing a temporary clef change before the first note or rest. After the first note or rest the clef change works just fine, leaving the initial clef visible as expected. We could introduce a special alignment-class for clef changes, but I'm not sure what the proper notation of a clef change at the beginning of the line is ; I believe that 2 clefs at the same musical point would only be necessary at the start of a piece, right? Not necessarily! I could imagine pieces where you want to indicate a major clef change after a double bar line, say, but where the part still begins with a rest and some cue notes from another part in another clef, similarly to the example sent earlier in this thread. /Mats ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Clef change before first note
Simon Bailey wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 06:01, Daniel Ashton wrote: Also, how can I get the curly brace visible to the left of the staves in this example? you could try using \context PianoStaff -- that puts a curly brace to the side of two staves. if it's not a piano piece, then you could use \context StaffGroup -- the brace is not curly, but straight. And if you want the curly brace but it's not a piano piece, use the \context GrandStaff. /Mats ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Clef change before first note
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: \partial 8 s8 \bar This seems to render a fairly acceptable result, but it really feels like a hack. Is there a less convoluted solution? Notice that the problem is only seen when doing a temporary clef change before the first note or rest. After the first note or rest the clef change works just fine, leaving the initial clef visible as expected. We could introduce a special alignment-class for clef changes, but I'm not sure what the proper notation of a clef change at the beginning of the line is ; I believe that 2 clefs at the same musical point would only be necessary at the start of a piece, right? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cs.uu.nl/~hanwen ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Clef change before first note
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: \partial 8 s8 \bar This seems to render a fairly acceptable result, but it really feels like a hack. Is there a less convoluted solution? (It's convoluted partly because every voice now requires a leading s8.) Notice that the problem is only seen when doing a temporary clef change before the first note or rest. After the first note or rest the clef change works just fine, leaving the initial clef visible as expected. We could introduce a special alignment-class for clef changes, but I'm not sure what the proper notation of a clef change at the beginning of the line is ; I believe that 2 clefs at the same musical point would only be necessary at the start of a piece, right? Right. I've attached a scan of the example I'm working from. I would suggest a new command called \clefChange that would be like \clef, but would never override the starting clef at the beginning of the piece. If \clefChange is the first clef command found, then the implicit treble clef should be visible. Also, how can I get the curly brace visible to the left of the staves in this example? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Ashton PGP key available http://Daniel.AshtonFam.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ChamberMusicWeekend.org mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 9445142 http://ZephyrBrass.com inline: ClefChange.gif___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Clef change before first note
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 06:01, Daniel Ashton wrote:
Also, how can I get the curly brace visible to the left of the staves in
this example?
you could try using \context PianoStaff -- that puts a curly brace to
the side of two staves. if it's not a piano piece, then you could use
\context StaffGroup -- the brace is not curly, but straight.
\score {
\context PianoStaff
\context Staff = right
\right
\context Staff = left
\left
}
or
\score {
\context StaffGroup
\context Staff = right
\right
\context Staff = left
\left
}
regards,
simon.
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Re: Clef change before first note
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 18:21:13 -0500 Daniel Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need an organ right-hand staff in which the first symbols are G clef, key signature, time signature, F clef, eight rest, notes, etc The G clef is not visible. How can I force the G clef to show up, then display the F clef as a (smaller) clef-change symbol? You could probably get it with a spacer note: \clef G \key a \major \time 17/16 \partial 16 s16 \clef F r8 HTH, - Graham ___ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
