Re: Even and odd page-margins
Whatever happened to this feature? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Even-and-odd-page-margins-tp9845p156627.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Even and odd page-margins
Whatever happened to this feature? http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/horizontal-spacing-_005cpaper-variables#_005cpaper-variables-for-two_002dsided-mode Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Even and odd page-margins [slightly OT]
Hello, I saw this thread from 2006, and it seems like there was some interest for adding the functionality for setting even and odd page margins. Did this ever get sponsored/implemented? If not, is there still interest in it getting sponsored/implemented? Thanks, Jonathan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Even and odd page-margins
Hi all,Is there some progress in this area? I'm still willing to co-sponsor the even/odd margin feature for EUR 15,00. Perhaps is can be combined with the feature for page layout sections?Best regards,Bart Kummel, Hilversum, The Netherlands On 5/27/06, Bart Kummel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Han-Wen, Gianluca,I don't know if anybody else is going to help sponsoring the mirrored-margins feature, but you can add me to the list for EUR 15.Best regards,Bart Kummel, Hilversum, The Netherlands On 5/26/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gianluca D. schreef: Hi everybody! I'd like to ask if anyone knows a way to set different margins for odd and even pages with Lilypond. I've tried to find some information from the manual of boh 2.8 and 2.9 version, but I couldn't find anything. I wouldn't like to use lilypond-book to achieve my goal, because I think it would be a waste of resources to use two different programs to obtain a simple thing like this. I'd be also interested in sponsoring this feature, eventually.Hello!I can add this for 65 EUR. Another feature I'd like to see in lilypond is a set of properties for the first page of a score, or the page with title- something like first-page-between-system-space or first-page-top-margin; actually, the first page usually needs specific tuning, which are often not suitable for the rest of the score- so I've thought it would be pretty nice to have specific settings for the title-page. I would be interested in sponsoring this feature too.I can add code to override all relevant page dimensions for the firstpage only, for 130 EUR. Cheers,--Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwenLilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notationhttp://www.lilypond-design.com___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.orghttp://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Even and odd page-margins
Hi Han-Wen, Gianluca,I don't know if anybody else is going to help sponsoring the mirrored-margins feature, but you can add me to the list for EUR 15.Best regards,Bart Kummel, Hilversum, The Netherlands On 5/26/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gianluca D. schreef: Hi everybody! I'd like to ask if anyone knows a way to set different margins for odd and even pages with Lilypond. I've tried to find some information from the manual of boh 2.8 and 2.9 version, but I couldn't find anything. I wouldn't like to use lilypond-book to achieve my goal, because I think it would be a waste of resources to use two different programs to obtain a simple thing like this. I'd be also interested in sponsoring this feature, eventually.Hello!I can add this for 65 EUR. Another feature I'd like to see in lilypond is a set of properties for the first page of a score, or the page with title- something like first-page-between-system-space or first-page-top-margin; actually, the first page usually needs specific tuning, which are often not suitable for the rest of the score- so I've thought it would be pretty nice to have specific settings for the title-page. I would be interested in sponsoring this feature too.I can add code to override all relevant page dimensions for the firstpage only, for 130 EUR. Cheers,--Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwenLilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notationhttp://www.lilypond-design.com___lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.orghttp://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Even and odd page-margins
Gianluca D. schreef: Hi everybody! I'd like to ask if anyone knows a way to set different margins for odd and even pages with Lilypond. I've tried to find some information from the manual of boh 2.8 and 2.9 version, but I couldn't find anything. I wouldn't like to use lilypond-book to achieve my goal, because I think it would be a waste of resources to use two different programs to obtain a simple thing like this. I'd be also interested in sponsoring this feature, eventually. Hello! I can add this for 65 EUR. Another feature I'd like to see in lilypond is a set of properties for the first page of a score, or the page with title- something like first-page-between-system-space or first-page-top-margin; actually, the first page usually needs specific tuning, which are often not suitable for the rest of the score- so I've thought it would be pretty nice to have specific settings for the title-page. I would be interested in sponsoring this feature too. I can add code to override all relevant page dimensions for the first page only, for 130 EUR. Cheers, -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Even and odd page-margins
On 22-May-06, at 7:31 PM, Gianluca D. wrote: I'd like to ask if anyone knows a way to set different margins for odd and even pages with Lilypond. I've tried to find some information from the manual of boh 2.8 and 2.9 version, but I couldn't find anything. I don't believe that this is currently possible. I wouldn't like to use lilypond-book to achieve my goal, because I think it would be a waste of resources to use two different programs to obtain a simple thing like this. I know what you mean. :) I'd be also interested in sponsoring this feature, eventually. Please contact Han-Wen directly. Another feature I'd like to see in lilypond is a set of properties for the first page of a score, or the page with title- something like first-page-between-system-space or first-page-top-margin; actually, the first page usually needs specific tuning, which are often not suitable for the rest of the score- so I've thought it would be pretty nice to have specific settings for the title-page. I would be interested in sponsoring this feature too. This might be possible already with the new spacing code. I haven't investigated the new possibilities yet though, so I stress the might. If you're interested, take a look at the page-* snippets in the Regression test document. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Even and odd page-margins
This would be a great feature, you could either define separate margin properties for even/odd, or more simply there could be a mrror page margins LR and mirror page margins TB flags that when set to true will flip the left/right (or top/bottom margins) opposite each other. This way when you spiral bind the pages there is always room for the spral hole punches. With the wider margin always falling on the binding spine. (I have had a learning curve difficulty with using book myself) Good idea! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Even+and+odd+page-margins-t1666511.html#a4556759 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Even and odd page-margins [slightly OT]
Hi, Rick: With the wider margin always falling on the binding spine. Just for the record... According to essentially every example in Robert Bringhurst's amazing book, The Elements of Typographic Style, the internal (spine) gutter should be smaller than the outside (page edge) margin. [There may even be a rule-of-thumb written in there, but I don't have time to scan the text right now...] I realise it's not always practical to do that, but to my eye it's the correct choice -- when possible, I follow that guideline in all my publications (including musical scores). Best wishes, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Even and odd page-margins [slightly OT]
Sure, but the key element is still that an opened book always has mirrored margins. It's all depends on how you do your book binding of course. I have one of those plastic spine binders that I use to make my fake books that allow the paper to lay pretty flat when opened. I suppose if you glue bound the pages on a stiff spine then you would need more room for the arc created out of the spine. I know someone who did this very effectively using construction adhesive and 120lb stock for the cover to create a rectangular spine. That carpenters construction adhesive (available in caulking tubes from lumber suppliers) really holds the pages tight, much better than rubber based binding glues. (hell it can hold your drywall on too) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Even+and+odd+page-margins-t1666511.html#a4562634 Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Even and odd page-margins [slightly OT]
Hi, Rick: the key element is still that an opened book always has mirrored margins. Of course. I suppose if you glue bound the pages on a stiff spine then you would need more room for the arc created out of the spine. This is actually what I was talking about: Bringhurst says you need *less* space in the spine margins than in the rest of the book (though I don't remember him saying whether that was dependent at all upon the binding method). For example, my copy of his book is perfect bound (glued in signatures, trade paperback), and the edge margins are about 3 cm whereas the spine margins are about 1!! The effect is so that the right edge of the left-page block nearly touches (visually speaking) the left edge of the right-page block when the book lies flat (and the spine arcs, as you said). Bringhurst implies that intuition often leads page layout creators to the opposite conclusion -- i.e., they make the spine margins larger than the edge margin, to compensate for the binding -- but that it is less aesthetically pleasing, and that historically the spine margins have always been smaller. Interesting, I thought... Best wishes, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
