Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
My very first contribution :-) Nice! Colin Campbell, May 04, 2024 at 02:51: > Thanks again for the text, Ken! I've put it up for review along with a > bunch of housekeeping bits, and it could get merged into the > documentation mid-week. You'll be able to point to your contribution to > LilyPond! > > Cheers, > > Colin > > On 2024-05-01 22:33, Kenneth Flak wrote: > > OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed! > > > > Kenneth > > > > > > Neovim > > > > https://neovim.io > > > > Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible > > and configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. > > Lilypond support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin > > (https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin > > supports playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click > > when using a supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when > > combined with other plugins; in addition to the full range of tools > > available in the neovim ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up > > consult the plugin's github page. You will also want to spend some time > > with some of the numerous online tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get > > the most out of your editing experience. > > > > > > Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49: > Maybe one of you two can provide some text for > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing > >>> It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation > >>> was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or > >>> so. > >> Aaah :-) > >> > >>> If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll > >>> be glad to turn it into a patch. > >> This would be great! Thanks for the offer. > >> > >> > >> Werner > > > > > >
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
Thanks again for the text, Ken! I've put it up for review along with a bunch of housekeeping bits, and it could get merged into the documentation mid-week. You'll be able to point to your contribution to LilyPond! Cheers, Colin On 2024-05-01 22:33, Kenneth Flak wrote: OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed! Kenneth Neovim https://neovim.io Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible and configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. Lilypond support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin (https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin supports playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click when using a supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when combined with other plugins; in addition to the full range of tools available in the neovim ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up consult the plugin's github page. You will also want to spend some time with some of the numerous online tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get the most out of your editing experience. Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49: Maybe one of you two can provide some text for https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or so. Aaah :-) If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll be glad to turn it into a patch. This would be great! Thanks for the offer. Werner
Re: Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
Cool! TBH I've not used point-and-click much, but according to the documentation it should work both ways: https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite/wiki/2.-Configuration#point-and-click Roosna & Flak Contemporary Dance & Music https://roosnaflak.com Original Message On 5/2/24 22:59, Colin Campbell wrote: > This looks really good, Ken. I'm going to do a general tidy up on the > Easier Editing page, but I hope to have something up for review in a day > or two. I've installed neovim, but to save a bit of time: is the > point-and-click two-way, like Frescobaldi, or from PDF to code only? > > > Cheers, > > Colin > > On 2024-05-01 22:33, Kenneth Flak wrote: > > OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed! > > > > Kenneth > > > > > > Neovim > > > > https://neovim.io > > > > Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible > and configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. > Lilypond support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin > (https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin supports > playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click when using > a supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when combined with other > plugins; in addition to the full range of tools available in the neovim > ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up consult the plugin's github > page. You will also want to spend some time with some of the numerous online > tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get the most out of your editing > experience. > > > > > > Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49: > Maybe one of you two can provide some text for > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing > >>> It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation > >>> was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or > >>> so. > >> Aaah :-) > >> > >>> If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll > >>> be glad to turn it into a patch. > >> This would be great! Thanks for the offer. > >> > >> > >> Werner > > > > > > >
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Kenneth Flak)
Sounds like just the VSLilyPond-PDF-Preview extension is not being maintained. I'll take a look at that tonight...thanks, Federico! On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:41 PM Federico Sarudiansky wrote: > Hi Jeff. > > I've been using VSLilypond for VSCode for a while now and I found a > solution for the annoying lack of refresh of the PDF output. It is here: > https://github.com/lhl2617/VSLilyPond-PDF-preview/pull/118 > Basically you have to edit a file of the Lilypond PDF preview extension > (~/.vscode/extensions/lhl2617.lilypond-pdf-preview-0.2.8/out/extension/pdf-preview.js) > and, look for "watcher.onDidChange" and add a similar construction for > using "watcher.onDidCreate". And it works flawlessly. > I think the owner of VSLilypond is not maintaining this project anymore. > So this is not merged in the extension you can download and should be done > by hand. > > Regards, > > F. > -- *Jeff Kopmanis* Medium: https://kopmanis.medium.com GLAAC: https://www.glaac.org/ University Lowbrow Astronomers: http://umich.edu/~lowbrows Orange Can Astronomy: https://www.facebook.com/orangecanastronomy/ ** Go Green and leave this email on the Screen! **
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Colin Campbell)
No it's only a one way point-and-click from the pdf and not as smooth
and fast as Fresco.
It's not as complete as Fresco but when you're a vim-centric guy on
different project your're looking for interaction with your linux system
and this plugin becomes really helpful for that.
And his maintenance will evolve, for sure.
Here is some more about Simon.
https://github.com/martineausimon/lilypond-lib
Jeff
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This looks really good, Ken. I'm going to do a general tidy up on the
Easier Editing page, but I hope to have something up for review in a day
or two. I've installed neovim, but to save a bit of time: is the
point-and-click two-way, like Frescobaldi, or from PDF to code only?
Cheers,
Colin
On 2024-05-01 22:33, Kenneth Flak wrote:
OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed!
Kenneth
Neovim
https://neovim.io
Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible and
configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. Lilypond
support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin
(https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin supports
playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click when using a
supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when combined with other
plugins; in addition to the full range of tools available in the neovim
ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up consult the plugin's github
page. You will also want to spend some time with some of the numerous online
tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get the most out of your editing
experience.
Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49:
Maybe one of you two can provide some text for
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing
It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation
was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or
so.
Aaah :-)
If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll
be glad to turn it into a patch.
This would be great! Thanks for the offer.
Werner
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Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 16:04:17 -0400
From: Jeff Kopmanis
To: jeff
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Kenneth Flak)
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I kicked the tires with VScode and the VSLilypond extension set, and it
worked pretty well. I'm not sure I figured out how to *automagically* update
the PDF display, all I had to do was to close and reopen the file and it
was there. Clicking on a note in the PDF viewer took me right to the text
and clicking on text and asking for it to find it in the PDF worked as
well. Syntax highlighting and completion worked nicely as well as the
formatting. Compiling worked nicely, although in some cases, my files
generate some warnings that Frescobaldi did not. I suspect different
compile options that could be worked out over time.
Overall, a reasonable replacement if Frescobaldi goes awayuntil then,
Frescobaldi is still easier.
-Jeff. :)
On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 3:57 PM jeff wrote:
Well done Kenneth! I don't have anything better to say. Maybe asking
Simon Martineau is thoughts about that. And thanks to Werner for the
proposal. It feels a little bit like I'm a part of the game, haha. I have
more than 20 scores to transpose on lilypond so I'm here to stay a little
longer and read and learn from you.
Jeff
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Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Kenneth Flak)
Hi Jeff. I've been using VSLilypond for VSCode for a while now and I found a solution for the annoying lack of refresh of the PDF output. It is here: https://github.com/lhl2617/VSLilyPond-PDF-preview/pull/118 Basically you have to edit a file of the Lilypond PDF preview extension (~/.vscode/extensions/lhl2617.lilypond-pdf-preview-0.2.8/out/extension/pdf-preview.js) and, look for "watcher.onDidChange" and add a similar construction for using "watcher.onDidCreate". And it works flawlessly. I think the owner of VSLilypond is not maintaining this project anymore. So this is not merged in the extension you can download and should be done by hand. Regards, F.
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
And while you are about to extend the 'Easier Editing' section: maybe for the Mac users in particular one might want to add the combination of TeXShop/LaTeX and Skim/Preview. I had a Mac until about 12 years ago when I started to use LilyPond. That was on Mac OS 10.4, before I left the Apple universe for good in favor of Linux. But this combo worked very well for me, and both programs are still around, so that one can safely assume that it still is an option today. It is just good to know there are alternatives to Frescobaldi, and it would be convenient to have them mentioned in one place, so everyone can check them out. Am Donnerstag, dem 02.05.2024 um 04:33 + schrieb Kenneth Flak: > OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed! > > Kenneth > > > Neovim > > https://neovim.io > > Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly > extensible and configurable through the vimscript and lua programming > languages. Lilypond support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite > plugin (https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The > plugin supports playback of midi files through external programs; > point-and-click when using a supported PDF viewer; snippets and code > completion when combined with other plugins; in addition to the full > range of tools available in the neovim ecosystem. For more details on > how to set it up consult the plugin's github page. You will also want > to spend some time with some of the numerous online tutorials for > learning vim/neovim to get the most out of your editing experience. > > > Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49: > > > > > > Maybe one of you two can provide some text for > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing > > > > > > It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond > > > documentation > > > was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or > > > so. > > > > Aaah :-) > > > > > If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, > > > I'll > > > be glad to turn it into a patch. > > > > This would be great! Thanks for the offer. > > > > > > Werner > > > >
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Kenneth Flak)
I kicked the tires with VScode and the VSLilypond extension set, and it worked pretty well. I'm not sure I figured out how to *automagically* update the PDF display, all I had to do was to close and reopen the file and it was there. Clicking on a note in the PDF viewer took me right to the text and clicking on text and asking for it to find it in the PDF worked as well. Syntax highlighting and completion worked nicely as well as the formatting. Compiling worked nicely, although in some cases, my files generate some warnings that Frescobaldi did not. I suspect different compile options that could be worked out over time. Overall, a reasonable replacement if Frescobaldi goes awayuntil then, Frescobaldi is still easier. -Jeff. :) On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 3:57 PM jeff wrote: > Well done Kenneth! I don't have anything better to say. Maybe asking > Simon Martineau is thoughts about that. And thanks to Werner for the > proposal. It feels a little bit like I'm a part of the game, haha. I have > more than 20 scores to transpose on lilypond so I'm here to stay a little > longer and read and learn from you. > Jeff > > On 02/05/2024 19:29, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > > Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to > lilypond-user@gnu.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Raphael Mankin) >2. Re: \after … \beforeLast? (Knute Snortum) >3. Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Kenneth Flak) >4. Re: \after … \beforeLast? (Hans Aikema) >5. Re: \after … \beforeLast? (Lukas-Fabian Moser) > > > -------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 18:07:33 +0100 > From: Raphael Mankin > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? > Message-ID: <474001f7-e9c0-4759-8106-174a0bb41...@mankin.org.uk> > <474001f7-e9c0-4759-8106-174a0bb41...@mankin.org.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > This is a much better description of Neovim than exists on any of the > Neovim web-sites. They all jump straight into detail without telling one > what the whole thing is about. I struggled to work out what Neovim is, > or why I should want to use it. > > On 02/05/2024 05:33, Kenneth Flak wrote: > > OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed! > > Kenneth > > > Neovim > https://neovim.io > > Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible and > configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. Lilypond > support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin > (https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin supports > playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click when using > a supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when combined with other > plugins; in addition to the full range of tools available in the neovim > ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up consult the plugin's github > page. You will also want to spend some time with some of the numerous online > tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get the most out of your editing > experience. > > > Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49: > > Maybe one of you two can provide some text for > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing > > It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation > was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or > so. > > Aaah :-) > > > If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll > be glad to turn it into a patch. > > This would be great! Thanks for the offer. > > > Werner > > > -- https://jefflagoutte.com/ > > -- *Jeff Kopmanis* Medium: https://kopmanis.medium.com GLAAC: https://www.glaac.org/ University Lowbrow Astronomers: http://umich.edu/~lowbrows Orange Can Astronomy: https://www.facebook.com/orangecanastronomy/ ** Go Green and leave this email on the Screen! **
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
This looks really good, Ken. I'm going to do a general tidy up on the Easier Editing page, but I hope to have something up for review in a day or two. I've installed neovim, but to save a bit of time: is the point-and-click two-way, like Frescobaldi, or from PDF to code only? Cheers, Colin On 2024-05-01 22:33, Kenneth Flak wrote: OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed! Kenneth Neovim https://neovim.io Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible and configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. Lilypond support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin (https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin supports playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click when using a supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when combined with other plugins; in addition to the full range of tools available in the neovim ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up consult the plugin's github page. You will also want to spend some time with some of the numerous online tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get the most out of your editing experience. Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49: Maybe one of you two can provide some text for https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or so. Aaah :-) If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll be glad to turn it into a patch. This would be great! Thanks for the offer. Werner
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Kenneth Flak)
Well done Kenneth! I don't have anything better to say.Maybe asking Simon Martineau is thoughts about that.And thanks to Werner for the proposal.It feels a little bit like I'm a part of the game, haha. I have more than 20 scores to transpose on lilypond so I'm here to stay a little longer and read and learn from you. Jeff On 02/05/2024 19:29, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to lilypond-user@gnu.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org You can reach the person managing the list at lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Raphael Mankin) 2. Re: \after … \beforeLast? (Knute Snortum) 3. Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Kenneth Flak) 4. Re: \after … \beforeLast? (Hans Aikema) 5. Re: \after … \beforeLast? (Lukas-Fabian Moser) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 18:07:33 +0100 From: Raphael Mankin To:lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? Message-ID:<474001f7-e9c0-4759-8106-174a0bb41...@mankin.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed This is a much better description of Neovim than exists on any of the Neovim web-sites. They all jump straight into detail without telling one what the whole thing is about. I struggled to work out what Neovim is, or why I should want to use it. On 02/05/2024 05:33, Kenneth Flak wrote: OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed! Kenneth Neovim https://neovim.io Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible and configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. Lilypond support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin (https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin supports playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click when using a supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when combined with other plugins; in addition to the full range of tools available in the neovim ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up consult the plugin's github page. You will also want to spend some time with some of the numerous online tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get the most out of your editing experience. Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49: Maybe one of you two can provide some text for https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or so. Aaah :-) If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll be glad to turn it into a patch. This would be great! Thanks for the offer. Werner -- https://jefflagoutte.com/
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
Glad to hear that the description is useful for you! I agree, the website is not great at onboarding new users... Best, Kenneth Raphael Mankin, May 02, 2024 at 20:07: > This is a much better description of Neovim than exists on any of the > Neovim web-sites. They all jump straight into detail without telling one > what the whole thing is about. I struggled to work out what Neovim is, > or why I should want to use it. > > On 02/05/2024 05:33, Kenneth Flak wrote: > > OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed! > > > > Kenneth > > > > > > Neovim > > > > https://neovim.io > > > > Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible > > and configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. > > Lilypond support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin > > (https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin > > supports playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click > > when using a supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when > > combined with other plugins; in addition to the full range of tools > > available in the neovim ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up > > consult the plugin's github page. You will also want to spend some time > > with some of the numerous online tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get > > the most out of your editing experience. > > > > > > Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49: > >> > Maybe one of you two can provide some text for > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing > >>> > >>> It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation > >>> was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or > >>> so. > >> > >> Aaah :-) > >> > >>> If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll > >>> be glad to turn it into a patch. > >> > >> This would be great! Thanks for the offer. > >> > >> > >> Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > https://saturday-october-seven.com/
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
This is a much better description of Neovim than exists on any of the Neovim web-sites. They all jump straight into detail without telling one what the whole thing is about. I struggled to work out what Neovim is, or why I should want to use it. On 02/05/2024 05:33, Kenneth Flak wrote: OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed! Kenneth Neovim https://neovim.io Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible and configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. Lilypond support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin (https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin supports playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click when using a supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when combined with other plugins; in addition to the full range of tools available in the neovim ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up consult the plugin's github page. You will also want to spend some time with some of the numerous online tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get the most out of your editing experience. Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49: Maybe one of you two can provide some text for https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or so. Aaah :-) If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll be glad to turn it into a patch. This would be great! Thanks for the offer. Werner -- https://saturday-october-seven.com/
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed! Kenneth Neovim https://neovim.io Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible and configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. Lilypond support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin (https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin supports playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click when using a supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when combined with other plugins; in addition to the full range of tools available in the neovim ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up consult the plugin's github page. You will also want to spend some time with some of the numerous online tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get the most out of your editing experience. Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49: > > >> Maybe one of you two can provide some text for > >> > >>https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing > > > > It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation > > was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or > > so. > > Aaah :-) > > > If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll > > be glad to turn it into a patch. > > This would be great! Thanks for the offer. > > > Werner
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
>> Maybe one of you two can provide some text for >> >>https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing > > It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation > was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or > so. Aaah :-) > If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll > be glad to turn it into a patch. This would be great! Thanks for the offer. Werner
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
On 2024-05-01 12:38, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Maybe one of you two can provide some text for https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or so. If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll be glad to turn it into a patch. Cheers, Colin
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
> Yes, I also use that combo. It's fantastic, but you'd have to be > willing to invest some time to climb the admittedly steep learning > curve of (neo)vim. However, it's a time investment that pays off > massively, so I recommend it heartily! Maybe one of you two can provide some text for https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing ? Werner
Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
Yes, I also use that combo. It's fantastic, but you'd have to be willing to invest some time to climb the admittedly steep learning curve of (neo)vim. However, it's a time investment that pays off massively, so I recommend it heartily! Kenneth Roosna & Flak Contemporary Dance & Music https://roosnaflak.com Sent from Proton Mail Android Original Message On 5/1/24 20:26, jeff wrote: > Hi,I live in Paris. I'm a composer. This discussion is really > interesting. I came back to lilypond a few month ago because there is no > language better than Lilypond dealing with code. I'm not interested in > those WYSIWYG. But I also came back because I have a really good tool > for Lilypond you didn't mention : neovim + nvim-lilypond-suite by > Martineau Simon. > > https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite > > This plugin blow my mind ! > > Is there someone who experienced it and feel the same enjoyment ? > > Happy to be a part of your community again, cheers. > > Jeff Lagoutte > > > On 30/04/2024 22:33, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > > Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to > >lilypond-user@gnu.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > >lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Fw: Frescobaldi ... panic alternatives? (Paolo Prete) > > 2. RE: Fw: Frescobaldi ... panic alternatives? (Mark Stephen Mrotek) > > > > > > -- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 22:08:29 +0200 > > From: Paolo Prete > > To: Mark Stephen Mrotek , lilypond-user > > > > Subject: Re: Fw: Frescobaldi ... panic alternatives? > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > You'll find all you need at the main page: > > > > https://github.com/paopre/Spontini > > > > Cheers > > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 10:04 PM Mark Stephen Mrotek > > wrote: > > > >> Paolo, > >> > >> > >> > >> Installation instructions? > >> Learning/notation manual? > >> > >> I want to try it. > >> > >> > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> > >> > >> *From:* lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org > >> *On Behalf Of *Paolo > >> Prete > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2024 12:58 PM > >> *To:* Dirck Nagy ; lilypond-user > >> *Subject:* Re: Fw: Frescobaldi ... panic alternatives? > >> > >> > >> > >> FYI I just made a new release of Spontini editor, with the most recent > >> changes (most notably: support for recent Lilypond versions) > >> > >> As mentioned before, I don't own a MacOS, but the HUGE implemented CI/CD > >> should avoid bad surprises. When I say "huge", I mean it. > >> > >> I always hope that someone decides to host the application, so that it > >> provides the same service that LilyBin previously offered. > >> > >> Please note that you don't have to install anything. Nor the editor, nor > >> LilyPond, and you can switch between multiple LilyPond versions. > >> > >> Anyway, I'm currently the only developer and maintainer of the software, > >> and I need collaboration (most notably for testing). Without it, I'm > forced > >> to mark my releases as "alfa" (but it should work...) > >> > >> > >> > >> https://github.com/paopre/Spontini/releases/tag/1.23_alfa > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 12:56 PM Paolo Prete wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 6:45 AM Dirck Nagy wrote: > >> > >> Hi all > >> > >> > >> > >> Reading that last thread about Frescobaldi and its possible disappearance > >> from Mac is causing me to panic. Jean, I did not realize that you were the > >> last person to seriously work on Frescobaldi / Mac. > >> > >> > >> > >> I use Mac exclusively, and Frescobaldi / Lilypond is very important to me. > >> > >> > >> > >> FYI, what I like the most about Frescobaldi are: > >> > >> > >> > >> - Templates and wizards > >> - Snippets > >> - Point and Click selection > >> - Syntax highlighting > >> > >> > >> > >> If Frescobaldi for Mac does indeed vanish, what are my alternatives for a > >> Lilypond editor? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> > >> > >> Although https://github.com/paopre/Spontini is focused on _very > >> different_ tasks than Frescobaldi, it has the features you just mentioned > >> (they are exposed in a somewhat different way, but they should work), > >> including code completion > >> > >> I could not extensively test it in the past months, nor I own a M
Re: Frescobaldi ... panic alternatives?
> With not too much work, you could get emacs to do all of that I > think. Well, it would be great if someone could convert the LilyPond mode of Emacs so that it uses the new 'tree-sitter' interface: https://tree-sitter.github.io/tree-sitter/ (look at the 'Playground' link to get a feeling what this tool is good for). This would allow seamless support of both Scheme and LilyPond syntax simultaneously... While there already is tree-sitter syntax support for Scheme (https://github.com/6cdh/tree-sitter-scheme, including some Guile extensions), no such thing exists yet for LilyPond syntax, which makes the conversion a larger undertaking, unfortunately. Werner
