Re: Lyrics in poly
could you maile me the example then? On Dec 19, 2006, at 2:49 AM, David Rogers wrote: Ezequiel Sierra wrote: nop it dosent work :( On Dec 18, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Eduardo Vieira wrote: associatedVoice Yes, it does work. I tried Eduardo's example myself. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics in poly
Ezequiel Sierra wrote: could you maile me the example then? Sorry, but I think I misunderstood your other message. I don't know if associatedVoice works, or even how it works. I only know that Eduardo's example (which he already sent) works fine, when you correct some missing hyphens and some rhythm mistakes in the lyrics. I know, because I made it work in only a few minutes - you can too. (I don't even speak Spanish.) Take Eduardo's advice very literally. He knows more than both of us put together. Follow his instructions closely, and use his example. If yours is almost the same, that is not enough. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics in poly
David in the second system there are 5 notes in ther first meassure what im trying to do is to place the lyrics in all five notes On Dec 19, 2006, at 4:15 PM, David Rogers wrote: Ezequiel Sierra wrote: could you maile me the example then? Sorry, but I think I misunderstood your other message. I don't know if associatedVoice works, or even how it works. I only know that Eduardo's example (which he already sent) works fine, when you correct some missing hyphens and some rhythm mistakes in the lyrics. I know, because I made it work in only a few minutes - you can too. (I don't even speak Spanish.) Take Eduardo's advice very literally. He knows more than both of us put together. Follow his instructions closely, and use his example. If yours is almost the same, that is not enough. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics in poly
look in the upper voice the bes8 will only have the word el from siem pre el and pre should go in the second f on the lower get it? On Dec 19, 2006, at 4:41 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Ezequiel Sierra wrote: David in the second system there are 5 notes in ther first meassure what im trying to do is to place the lyrics in all five notes I don't understand. Do you mean the music to Siem -- pre el la -- bio ...? There, in the upper stave, the upper voice is bes'4. bes8 bes bes and the lower voice is f4 f g g. Are you supposed to sing the lyrics to the upper or the lower voice? I can't see how you would sing both rhythms. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics in poly
Ezequiel Sierra wrote: look in the upper voice the bes8 will only have the word el from siem pre el and pre should go in the second f on the lower get it? Yes, now I get it exactly. It doesn't work this way. The alto needs its own (new, separate) line of lyrics, if you want it different from the soprano. One line of lyrics = one singer. However, this whole plan is not necessary - the sopranos sing one rhythm, the altos sing a different rhythm, but the words are the same. There is no reason to try to give one syllable to the sopranos and the other to the altos. It is perfectly clear to the singers what they have to do, in Eduardo's example. (except some hyphens are missing and some rhythms are wrong.) On Dec 19, 2006, at 4:41 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Ezequiel Sierra wrote: David in the second system there are 5 notes in ther first meassure what im trying to do is to place the lyrics in all five notes I don't understand. Do you mean the music to Siem -- pre el la -- bio ...? There, in the upper stave, the upper voice is bes'4. bes8 bes bes and the lower voice is f4 f g g. Are you supposed to sing the lyrics to the upper or the lower voice? I can't see how you would sing both rhythms. /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics in poly
Ezequiel Sierra wrote: The thing is that the music is a hymn so i cant make different lines of lyrics for different voices But you don't need to - that's my whole point. Forget the whole idea of making a syllable line up with the alto note. The singers don't care, and it doesn't matter. Just let the words line up with the soprano notes, and it's good enough. This is how hymns and strophic songs are done - otherwise, it's much too complicated. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics in poly
Citando David Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Ezequiel Sierra wrote:
The thing is that the music is a hymn so i cant make different lines
of lyrics for different voices
Ezequiel, it's hard to understand what you really want. I sent the file
001-modif.ly and it doesn't seem you are trying to develop a progress from
there. You don't don't tell us how you tryed with set associatedVoice, this
way is hard to feel like helping you.
Anyway, attached is the file 001-modif2.ly, which uses set associatedVoice.
There are other problems with the other verses, but I'll let you figure out the
solution, as well as apply set associatedVoice to the other verses.
Eduardo.
P.S. Users like to once in a while hear a thank you, to. ;)
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bes2/+d ees4 g4:m/+d c4:m f4:/+c bes4 ees4 bes2/+f f4:7 bes4 bes1
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bes ees4 bes ees ees g ees g
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c c' d c' ees c' f c'
g bes2 ees g2 \break
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes g } \context Voice = alto { \voiceTwo f4 f4 } \oneVoice
{ \voiceOne ees'2 f, d'4 g bes } \new Voice { \voiceTwo d ( f ) } \oneVoice
{ \voiceOne f d bes' ees c'4. d bes'8} \new Voice { \voiceTwo f4 } \oneVoice
d bes'1 \break
bes ees4 bes ees ees g ees g
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\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne c'4. c8 } \new Voice { \voiceTwo c,4 d} \oneVoice c' ees,4 c f,
g bes2 ees bes'2 \break
ees ees'4 ees ees' ees bes' ees bes'
ees c'2 ees g4 des g
c aes' c f d! f4. ees8
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\set stanza = 1.
¡San -- to! ¡San -- to! ¡San -- to! Se -- ñor om -- ni -- po -- ten -- \set associatedVoice = alto te,
Siem -- \set associatedVoice = melodia pre el la -- bio mà -- o lo -- o -- res Te da -- rá.
¡San -- to! ¡San -- to! ¡San -- to! Te a -- do -- ro re -- ve -- ren -- te,
Dios en tres per -- so -- nas, ben -- di -- ta Tri -- ni -- dad.
}
versoDos = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = 2.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San2 -- to!4 en nu -- me -- ro -- so co -- ro,
San -- tos es -- co -- gi -- dos Te a -- do -- ran sin ce -- sar1
De a -- le -- grÃa -- a lle -- nos y sus co -- ro -- nas de o2 -- ro
Rin4 -- den an te el tro2 -- no4 y el cris -- ta -- li -- no mar.1
}
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\set stanza = 3.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San2 -- to!4 la in -- men -- sa mu -- che -- dum2 -- bre
De án1 -- ge - les que cum -- plen tu san -- ta vo -- lun -- tad,1
An4 -- te Ti se pos -- tra, ba -- ña - da de tu lum2 -- bre,
An4 -- te Ti que has si2 -- do,4 que e -- res y se -- rás.1
}
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\set stanza = 4.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San2 -- to!4 por más que es
Re: Lyrics in poly
that wont assign lyrics to the f4 f4
i tried
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes g }
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceTwo f4 f4 } \oneVoice
but it dosent work either i put all stems down even the first voice
On Dec 18, 2006, at 12:56 AM, Eduardo Vieira wrote:
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes
g }
\context Voice = alto { \voiceTwo f4 f4 } \oneVoice
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Re: Lyrics in poly
Citando Ezequiel Sierra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
that wont assign lyrics to the f4 f4
i tried
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes g }
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceTwo f4 f4 } \oneVoice
but it dosent work either i put all stems down even the first voice
On Dec 18, 2006, at 12:56 AM, Eduardo Vieira wrote:
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes
g }
\context Voice = alto { \voiceTwo f4 f4 } \oneVoice
Hello!
You did *not* try my suggestion of creating the context alto for VoiceTwo.
I suggest that you *re-read carefully* the chapters of lyrics and Explicitly
instantiating voices
Attached is a modified version of your score. The first line of lyrics is
matching fine. The others must be some typo from your part.
Pay close attention on how I modified your score in the soprano/alto parts. I
recommend you to use a software called K-diff to compare side by side your file
and my changes.
As for the alto and bass. I have the following remarks:
{ \stemDown bes2 ees g4 ees bes' } \\ { \stemUp \slurUp f (aes) }
You are not following the logic of polyphony in lilypond:
-- What comes before \\ is voiceOne, which tells the stems, slurs and ties to be
UP
-- what comes after the first \\ is voiceTwo, which tells the stems to go down
-- avoid chords inside this construct (this is my suggestion, not lilypond's)
Therefore you should replace those things with:
{ f4 (aes) } \\ { bes2 } ees g4 ees bes'
Y así por delante...
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\version 2.10.2
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numeroHimno = 1
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copyright = Iglesia Bautista de Jesucristo
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meter = \markup { (CAPO I) }
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ees2 c2:m bes2:7 ees2 aes4 d4:dim7/+bes aes4 bes4:9 ees1
bes2/+d ees4 g4:m/+d c4:m f4:/+c bes4 ees4 bes2/+f f4:7 bes4 bes1
ees2 c2:m bes2:7 ees2 aes4 d4:dim7/+bes aes4 bes4:9 ees1
c4:m aes4 ees4 ees4:7 aes2 ees4 ees4:7 aes4 f4:m/+aes bes4:7 ees4 ees1
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\key ees \major
\time 4/4
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bes ees4 bes ees ees g ees g
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'2 ees, bes'4 d bes' } \new Voice { \voiceTwo d ( f ) } \oneVoice
c c' d c' ees c' f c'
g bes2 ees g2 \break
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes g } \context Voice = alto { \voiceTwo f4 f4 } \oneVoice
{ \voiceOne ees'2 f, d'4 g bes } \new Voice { \voiceTwo d ( f ) } \oneVoice
{ \voiceOne f d bes' ees c'4. d bes'8} \new Voice { \voiceTwo f4 } \oneVoice
d bes'1 \break
bes ees4 bes ees ees g ees g
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'2 } \new Voice { \voiceTwo d,4 ( f ) } \oneVoice ees bes'4 d bes'
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g bes2 ees bes'2 \break
ees ees'4 ees ees' ees bes' ees bes'
ees c'2 ees g4 des g
c aes' c f d! f4. ees8
ees ees1
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}
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%
versoUno = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = 1.
¡San -- to! ¡San -- to! ¡San -- to! Se -- ñor om -- ni -- po -- ten -- te,
Siem -- pre el la -- bio mà -- o lo -- o -- res Te da -- rá.
¡San -- to! ¡San -- to! ¡San -- to! Te a -- do -- ro re -- ve -- ren -- te,
Dios en tres per -- so -- nas, ben -- di -- ta Tri -- ni -- dad.
}
versoDos =
Re: Lyrics in poly
Ezequiel Sierra wrote: nop it dosent work :( On Dec 18, 2006, at 9:25 PM, Eduardo Vieira wrote: associatedVoice Yes, it does work. I tried Eduardo's example myself. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lyrics in poly
I't much easier for us to realize exactly what you problem is (and for
you to write the question) if you include a small example that
illustrates the problem.
The macros \voiceOne, \voiceTwo and \oneVoice themselves shouldn't
really have anything to do with the problem. My guess is that you have
used the {...} \\ {...} feature, which creates new Voice
contexts during the polyphony. See Explicitly instantiating voices
for an explanation of exactly what is going on. See also the section on
Divisi lyrics for an example of keeping lyrics together with a voice
across a polyphonic section.
/Mats
Quoting Ezequiel Sierra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
i have voiceOne and voice Two in a staff to make poly so i make them
oneVoice but when im adding lyrics the lyrics only goes to voiceOne
how can i fix that?
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Re: Lyrics in poly
here is the file
%**
\version 2.10.2
%**
numeroHimno = 1
tituloHimno = ¡Santo! ¡Santo! ¡Santo!
%
\paper {
oddHeaderMarkup = \markup { \bold \large \numeroHimno }
print-page-number = ##f
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\header {
title = \tituloHimno
copyright = Iglesia Bautista de Jesucristo
tagline =
meter = \markup { (CAPO I) }
}
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%
acordes= \chordmode {
ees2 c2:m bes2:7 ees2 aes4 d4:dim7/+bes aes4 bes4:9 ees1
bes2/+d ees4 g4:m/+d c4:m f4:/+c bes4 ees4 bes2/+f f4:7 bes4 bes1
ees2 c2:m bes2:7 ees2 aes4 d4:dim7/+bes aes4 bes4:9 ees1
c4:m aes4 ees4 ees4:7 aes2 ees4 ees4:7 aes4 f4:m/+aes bes4:7 ees ees1
}
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#(define (parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass inversion context)
(markup #:line (( (ignatzek-chord-names in-pitches bass inversion context)
%
acordesConCapo= \chordmode {
\set chordNameFunction = #parenthesis-ignatzek-chord-names
\transpose ees d {
ees2 c2:m bes2:7 ees2 aes4 d4:dim7/+bes aes4 bes4:9 ees1
bes2/+d ees4 g4:m/+d c4:m f4:/+c bes4 ees4 bes2/+f f4:7 bes4 bes1
ees2 c2:m bes2:7 ees2 aes4 d4:dim7/+bes aes4 bes4:9 ees1
c4:m aes4 ees4 ees4:7 aes2 ees4 ees4:7 aes4 f4:m/+aes bes4:7 ees4 ees1
}
}
%
%
tope = \relative c' {
\key ees \major
\time 4/4
\new Voice = melodia {
bes ees4 bes ees ees g ees g
\context Voice = melodia { \stemUp bes'2 ees, bes'4 d bes' } \\ { d ( f ) }
c c' d c' ees c' f c'
g bes2 ees g2 \break
\context Voice = melodia { \stemUp \slurUp bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes g } \\ \context Voice = melodia { \stemDown \slurDown f4 f4 }
{ \voiceOne ees'2 f, d'4 g bes } \new Voice { \voiceTwo d ( f ) } \oneVoice
{ \voiceOne f d bes' ees c'4. d bes'8} \new Voice { \voiceTwo f4 } \oneVoice
d bes'1 \break
bes ees4 bes ees ees g ees g
{ \voiceOne bes'2 ees, bes'4 d bes' } \new Voice { \voiceTwo d ( f ) } \oneVoice
{ \voiceOne { \stemUp \slurUp c'4. c8 c ees,4 c f,} } { \voiceThree \stemUp \slurUp c,4 d} \oneVoice
g bes2 ees bes'2 \break
ees ees'4 ees ees' ees bes' ees bes'
ees c'2 ees g4 des g
c aes' c f d! f4. ees8
ees ees1
}
}
%
%
versoUno = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = 1.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San2 -- to!4 Se4 -- ñor4 om4 -- ni4 -- po4 -- ten2 -- te,2
Siem4 -- pre4 el la -- bio mà -- o lo -- o -- res Te da -- rá.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San2 -- to!4 Te a -- do - ro re -- ve -- ren2 -- te,2
Dios4 en tres per -- so2 -- nas,4 ben -- di -- ta Tri -- ni -- dad.1
}
versoDos = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = 2.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San2 -- to!4 en nu -- me -- ro -- so co -- ro,
San -- tos es -- co -- gi -- dos Te a -- do -- ran sin ce -- sar1
De a -- le -- grÃa -- a lle -- nos y sus co -- ro -- nas de o2 -- ro
Rin4 -- den an te el tro2 -- no4 y el cris -- ta -- li -- no mar.1
}
versoTres = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = 3.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San2 -- to!4 la in -- men -- sa mu -- che -- dum2 -- bre
De án1 -- ge - les que cum -- plen tu san -- ta vo -- lun -- tad,1
An4 -- te Ti se pos -- tra, ba -- ña - da de tu lum2 -- bre,
An4 -- te Ti que has si2 -- do,4 que e -- res y se -- rás.1
}
versoCuatro = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = 4.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San2 -- to!4 por más que es -- tés ve -- la2 -- do,
E im4 -- po - si -- ble se -- a tu glo -- ria con -- tem -- plar;1
San4 -- to Tú e -- res só -- lo, y na -- da hay a tu la2 do
En4 po -- der per -- fec2 -- to,4 pu -- re -- za y ca -- ri -- dad.1
}
versoCinco = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = 5.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San2 -- to!4 la glo -- ria de tu nom2 -- bre
Ve4 -- mos en tus o -- bras en cie -- lo, tie -- rra y mar;1
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San2 -- to!4 Te a -- do - ra -- rá to -- do hom2 -- bre,
Dios4 en tres per -- so2 nas4 ben -- di -- ta Tri -- ni -- dad.
}
%
%
bajo = \relative c' {
\clef bass
\key ees \major
\time 4/4
g ees4 g ees ees c ees c
{ \stemDown bes2 ees g4 ees bes' } \\ { \stemUp \slurUp f (aes) }
aes aes, aes, bes' aes' c bes d
{ \stemDown ees,2 ees bes'2 } \\ { \stemUp \slurUp ees'4 (bes) } \break
bes d, bes d, bes ees, bes d,
{ \stemDown c,2 d bes'4 ees bes' } \\ { \stemUp \slurUp g (a) }
f d' f bes f a4. bes,
Re: Lyrics in poly
to be more specific
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes
g } { \voiceTwo f4 f4 } \oneVoice
i get all stems down of that staff why?
On Dec 17, 2006, at 8:34 PM, Ezequiel Sierra wrote:
here is the file
001.ly
as the second system has all the stems down it shouldn`t cause i
specify it stem up
On Dec 17, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
I't much easier for us to realize exactly what you problem is (and
for you to write the question) if you include a small example that
illustrates the problem.
The macros \voiceOne, \voiceTwo and \oneVoice themselves shouldn't
really have anything to do with the problem. My guess is that you
have used the {...} \\ {...} feature, which creates new Voice
contexts during the polyphony. See Explicitly instantiating voices
for an explanation of exactly what is going on. See also the
section on Divisi lyrics for an example of keeping lyrics
together with a voice across a polyphonic section.
/Mats
Quoting Ezequiel Sierra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
i have voiceOne and voice Two in a staff to make poly so i make
them oneVoice but when im adding lyrics the lyrics only goes to
voiceOne how can i fix that?
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Re: Lyrics in poly
Citando Ezequiel Sierra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
to be more specific
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes
g } { \voiceTwo f4 f4 } \oneVoice
i get all stems down of that staff why?
You should to include \new Voice (or \new Voice = something) , after
\voiceTwo:
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes
g } \new Voice { \voiceTwo f4 f4 } \oneVoice
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