Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-20 Thread David Kastrup
Hans Åberg  writes:

>> On 20 Sep 2019, at 16:06, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
>> 
>> Pierre Perol_Schneider:
>>> Well, I've tried to print it with global staff size set to #15, and it
>>> still looks fine to me...
>>> Sorry if I'm wrong.
>>> 
>>> Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 13:09,  a écrit :
 You got some nice looking wineglasses there, but more detail isn't
 really worth it when making small symbols.
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong, it looks fine, but there isn't much different 
>> compared to a simpler symbol. Also, I think it shouldn't have to much 
>> detail, to make it easier to see/interpret under dim conditions.
>
> Different symbols may indicate different beverages. For the Swedish
> “Helan går” it is traditionally brännvin (snaps, lit. “burning wine”),
> and not wine, as suggested by the original glass symbol.

One would certainly want to avoid that the result of a Margarita mixing
song ends up being a Pinacolada.  Clearly more symbols are needed.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-20 Thread Hans Åberg

> On 20 Sep 2019, at 18:27, David Kastrup  wrote:
> 
> Hans Åberg  writes:
> 
>>> On 20 Sep 2019, at 16:06, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pierre Perol_Schneider:
 Well, I've tried to print it with global staff size set to #15, and it
 still looks fine to me...
 Sorry if I'm wrong.
 
 Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 13:09,  a écrit :
> You got some nice looking wineglasses there, but more detail isn't
> really worth it when making small symbols.
>>> 
>>> Don't get me wrong, it looks fine, but there isn't much different 
>>> compared to a simpler symbol. Also, I think it shouldn't have to much 
>>> detail, to make it easier to see/interpret under dim conditions.
>> 
>> Different symbols may indicate different beverages. For the Swedish
>> “Helan går” it is traditionally brännvin (snaps, lit. “burning wine”),
>> and not wine, as suggested by the original glass symbol.
> 
> One would certainly want to avoid that the result of a Margarita mixing
> song ends up being a Pinacolada.  Clearly more symbols are needed.

The type of glass may be more important than the beverage it holds. The 
original symbol is typical for “brännvinsglas” in case somebody wants to search 
for it to see how it looks, but one could put water into it if one does not 
want to drink alcohol.



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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-20 Thread Hans Åberg

> On 20 Sep 2019, at 16:06, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> 
> Pierre Perol_Schneider:
>> Well, I've tried to print it with global staff size set to #15, and it
>> still looks fine to me...
>> Sorry if I'm wrong.
>> 
>> Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 13:09,  a écrit :
>>> You got some nice looking wineglasses there, but more detail isn't
>>> really worth it when making small symbols.
> 
> Don't get me wrong, it looks fine, but there isn't much different 
> compared to a simpler symbol. Also, I think it shouldn't have to much 
> detail, to make it easier to see/interpret under dim conditions.

Different symbols may indicate different beverages. For the Swedish “Helan går” 
it is traditionally brännvin (snaps, lit. “burning wine”), and not wine, as 
suggested by the original glass symbol.



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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-20 Thread karl
Pierre Perol_Schneider:
> Well, I've tried to print it with global staff size set to #15, and it
> still looks fine to me...
> Sorry if I'm wrong.
> 
> Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 13:09,  a écrit :
> > You got some nice looking wineglasses there, but more detail isn't
> > really worth it when making small symbols.

Don't get me wrong, it looks fine, but there isn't much different 
compared to a simpler symbol. Also, I think it shouldn't have to much 
detail, to make it easier to see/interpret under dim conditions.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar



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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-20 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
BTW, simply remove the following lines if the "detail" bothers you:

\version "2.19.83"
#(set-global-staff-size 16)
#(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
  (interpret-markup layout props
   (markup
 (#:stencil
   (make-path-stencil
'(M 0.14 0.00
  C 0.09 0.00 0.17 0.07 0.31 0.07
  C 0.42 0.07 0.46 0.07 0.55 0.13
  L 0.65 0.20
  C 0.65 0.47 0.65 0.74 0.64 1.01
  C 0.22 1.20 0.00 1.44 0.00 1.78
  C 0.01 2.11 0.11 2.25 0.23 2.51
  L 1.13 2.51
  C 1.27 2.25 1.33 2.14 1.36 1.78
  C 1.40 1.42 0.97 1.14 0.72 1.01
  C 0.72 0.74 0.72 0.47 0.72 0.20
  L 0.80 0.14
  C 0.88 0.08 0.90 0.07 1.05 0.07
  C 1.18 0.06 1.25 0.00 1.20 0.00
  C 0.82 0.00 0.63 0.00 0.14 0.00 Z
  M 0.74 0.09
  C 0.70 0.13 0.66 0.13 0.62 0.09
  C 0.59 0.07 0.59 0.07 0.68 0.07
  C 0.77 0.07 0.77 0.07 0.74 0.09 Z
  M 1.29 1.72
  L 0.06 1.72
  C 0.09 1.48 0.21 1.28 0.68 1.07
  C 1.07 1.28 1.25 1.48 1.29 1.72 Z
  ;M 0.67 1.16
  ;C 0.65 1.20 1.02 1.40 1.09 1.57
  ;C 1.13 1.65 1.18 1.67 1.18 1.61
  ;C 1.18 1.52 0.97 1.31 0.77 1.19
  ;C 0.68 1.14 0.66 1.12 0.66 1.16 Z
  M 1.09 2.44
  L 0.27 2.44
  C 0.16 2.24 0.07 1.97 0.07 1.79
  L 1.29 1.79
  C 1.27 2.02 1.20 2.23 1.09 2.44 Z)
   0 1.4 1.4 #t)

{ c' ^\markup\wineGlass }



Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 15:47, Pierre Perol-Schneider <
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Well, I've tried to print it with global staff size set to #15, and it
> still looks fine to me...
> Sorry if I'm wrong.
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>
> Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 13:09,  a écrit :
>
>> You got some nice looking wineglasses there, but more detail isn't
>> really worth it when making small symbols.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> /Karl Hammar
>>
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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-20 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Well, I've tried to print it with global staff size set to #15, and it
still looks fine to me...
Sorry if I'm wrong.
Cheers,
Pierre

Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 13:09,  a écrit :

> You got some nice looking wineglasses there, but more detail isn't
> really worth it when making small symbols.
>
> Cheers,
> /Karl Hammar
>
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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-20 Thread karl
You got some nice looking wineglasses there, but more detail isn't 
really worth it when making small symbols.

Cheers,
/Karl Hammar


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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-20 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Ok, well, how about:

\version "2.19.83"

#(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
  (interpret-markup layout props
   (markup
 (#:stencil
   (make-path-stencil
'(M 0.141 0
  C 0.094 0.004 0.168 0.066 0.309 0.066
  C 0.445 0.066 0.461 0.07 0.551 0.129
  L 0.645 0.195
  C 0.645 0.465 0.645 0.738 0.641 1.012
  C 0.219 1.207 -0.008 1.441 0 1.777
  C 0.008 2.109 0.105 2.25 0.227 2.512
  L 1.129 2.512
  C 1.273 2.246 1.328 2.137 1.363 1.781
  C 1.395 1.422 0.965 1.141 0.715 1.012
  C 0.715 0.738 0.715 0.465 0.715 0.195
  L 0.801 0.137
  C 0.879 0.082 0.902 0.074 1.047 0.066
  C 1.176 0.059 1.254 0 1.199 0
  C 0.824 0 0.633 0 0.141 0 Z
  M 0.742 0.094
  C 0.695 0.125 0.66 0.125 0.617 0.094
  C 0.586 0.066 0.59 0.066 0.68 0.066
  C 0.77 0.066 0.773 0.07 0.742 0.094 Z
  M 1.293 1.719
  L 0.063 1.719
  C 0.09 1.48 0.211 1.281 0.676 1.074
  C 1.074 1.277 1.246 1.48 1.293 1.719 Z
  M 0.656 1.156
  C 0.652 1.195 1.02 1.395 1.086 1.57
  C 1.133 1.652 1.184 1.672 1.184 1.613
  C 1.184 1.523 0.965 1.305 0.77 1.191
  C 0.68 1.141 0.66 1.121 0.656 1.156 Z
  M 1.086 2.438
  L 0.273 2.438
  C 0.16 2.238 0.07 1.969 0.07 1.793
  L 1.289 1.793
  C 1.273 2.023 1.203 2.227 1.086 2.438 Z)
   0.015 1.4 1.4 #t)

{ c' ^\markup\wineGlass }

Cheers,
Pierre

Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 09:59,  a écrit :

> Pierre Perol-Schneider:
> > Hum, weird. Maybe you could change the dimension, e.g.:
> >
> > #(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
> >   (interpret-markup layout props
> >(markup
> > (#:with-dimensions (cons 0.2 1.1) (cons 0.3 2.7) ;; <= Set dimensions
> >  (#:stencil
> >   (make-path-stencil
> >'(M .2 5 C -.5 3.8 0 2.2 1 2.2 L .95 0.2
> >  L 0 0 L 2.2 0 L 1.2 .2 L 1.2 2.2 C 2.2
> >  2.2 2.7 3.8 2 5 Z M -.1 3.6 L 2.3 3.6)
> >.1 .6 .6 #f))
>
> Nope, still 3pages.
>
> What is more strange is that when measuring the distance from top
> system line to top of glass sybol, I get the same value for both the
> whineGlass and my postscript version (when using gv's x-y position).
>
> Regards,
> /Karl Hammar
>
>
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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-20 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
A little simplified:

\version "2.19.83"

#(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
  (interpret-markup layout props
   (markup
 (#:stencil
   (make-path-stencil
'(M 0.14 0.00
  C 0.09 0.00 0.17 0.07 0.31 0.07
  C 0.42 0.07 0.46 0.07 0.55 0.13
  L 0.65 0.20
  C 0.65 0.47 0.65 0.74 0.64 1.01
  C 0.22 1.20 0.00 1.44 0.00 1.78
  C 0.01 2.11 0.11 2.25 0.23 2.51
  L 1.13 2.51
  C 1.27 2.25 1.33 2.14 1.36 1.78
  C 1.40 1.42 0.97 1.14 0.72 1.01
  C 0.72 0.74 0.72 0.47 0.72 0.20
  L 0.80 0.14
  C 0.88 0.08 0.90 0.07 1.05 0.07
  C 1.18 0.06 1.25 0.00 1.20 0.00
  C 0.82 0.00 0.63 0.00 0.14 0.00 Z
  M 0.74 0.09
  C 0.70 0.13 0.66 0.13 0.62 0.09
  C 0.59 0.07 0.59 0.07 0.68 0.07
  C 0.77 0.07 0.77 0.07 0.74 0.09 Z
  M 1.29 1.72
  L 0.06 1.72
  C 0.09 1.48 0.21 1.28 0.68 1.07
  C 1.07 1.28 1.25 1.48 1.29 1.72 Z
  M 0.67 1.16
  C 0.65 1.20 1.02 1.40 1.09 1.57
  C 1.13 1.65 1.18 1.67 1.18 1.61
  C 1.18 1.52 0.97 1.31 0.77 1.19
  C 0.68 1.14 0.66 1.12 0.66 1.16 Z
  M 1.09 2.44
  L 0.27 2.44
  C 0.16 2.24 0.07 1.97 0.07 1.79
  L 1.29 1.79
  C 1.27 2.02 1.20 2.23 1.09 2.44 Z)
   0 1.4 1.4 #t)

{ c' ^\markup\wineGlass }

Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 11:13, Pierre Perol-Schneider <
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Ok, well, how about:
>
> \version "2.19.83"
>
> #(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
>   (interpret-markup layout props
>(markup
>  (#:stencil
>(make-path-stencil
> '(M 0.141 0
>   C 0.094 0.004 0.168 0.066 0.309 0.066
>   C 0.445 0.066 0.461 0.07 0.551 0.129
>   L 0.645 0.195
>   C 0.645 0.465 0.645 0.738 0.641 1.012
>   C 0.219 1.207 -0.008 1.441 0 1.777
>   C 0.008 2.109 0.105 2.25 0.227 2.512
>   L 1.129 2.512
>   C 1.273 2.246 1.328 2.137 1.363 1.781
>   C 1.395 1.422 0.965 1.141 0.715 1.012
>   C 0.715 0.738 0.715 0.465 0.715 0.195
>   L 0.801 0.137
>   C 0.879 0.082 0.902 0.074 1.047 0.066
>   C 1.176 0.059 1.254 0 1.199 0
>   C 0.824 0 0.633 0 0.141 0 Z
>   M 0.742 0.094
>   C 0.695 0.125 0.66 0.125 0.617 0.094
>   C 0.586 0.066 0.59 0.066 0.68 0.066
>   C 0.77 0.066 0.773 0.07 0.742 0.094 Z
>   M 1.293 1.719
>   L 0.063 1.719
>   C 0.09 1.48 0.211 1.281 0.676 1.074
>   C 1.074 1.277 1.246 1.48 1.293 1.719 Z
>   M 0.656 1.156
>   C 0.652 1.195 1.02 1.395 1.086 1.57
>   C 1.133 1.652 1.184 1.672 1.184 1.613
>   C 1.184 1.523 0.965 1.305 0.77 1.191
>   C 0.68 1.141 0.66 1.121 0.656 1.156 Z
>   M 1.086 2.438
>   L 0.273 2.438
>   C 0.16 2.238 0.07 1.969 0.07 1.793
>   L 1.289 1.793
>   C 1.273 2.023 1.203 2.227 1.086 2.438 Z)
>0.015 1.4 1.4 #t)
>
> { c' ^\markup\wineGlass }
>
> Cheers,
> Pierre
>
> Le ven. 20 sept. 2019 à 09:59,  a écrit :
>
>> Pierre Perol-Schneider:
>> > Hum, weird. Maybe you could change the dimension, e.g.:
>> >
>> > #(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
>> >   (interpret-markup layout props
>> >(markup
>> > (#:with-dimensions (cons 0.2 1.1) (cons 0.3 2.7) ;; <= Set
>> dimensions
>> >  (#:stencil
>> >   (make-path-stencil
>> >'(M .2 5 C -.5 3.8 0 2.2 1 2.2 L .95 0.2
>> >  L 0 0 L 2.2 0 L 1.2 .2 L 1.2 2.2 C 2.2
>> >  2.2 2.7 3.8 2 5 Z M -.1 3.6 L 2.3 3.6)
>> >.1 .6 .6 #f))
>>
>> Nope, still 3pages.
>>
>> What is more strange is that when measuring the distance from top
>> system line to top of glass sybol, I get the same value for both the
>> whineGlass and my postscript version (when using gv's x-y position).
>>
>> Regards,
>> /Karl Hammar
>>
>>
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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-20 Thread karl
Pierre Perol-Schneider:
> Hum, weird. Maybe you could change the dimension, e.g.:
> 
> #(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
>   (interpret-markup layout props
>(markup
> (#:with-dimensions (cons 0.2 1.1) (cons 0.3 2.7) ;; <= Set dimensions
>  (#:stencil
>   (make-path-stencil
>'(M .2 5 C -.5 3.8 0 2.2 1 2.2 L .95 0.2
>  L 0 0 L 2.2 0 L 1.2 .2 L 1.2 2.2 C 2.2
>  2.2 2.7 3.8 2 5 Z M -.1 3.6 L 2.3 3.6)
>.1 .6 .6 #f))

Nope, still 3pages.

What is more strange is that when measuring the distance from top 
system line to top of glass sybol, I get the same value for both the 
whineGlass and my postscript version (when using gv's x-y position).

Regards,
/Karl Hammar



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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread Jacques Menu


> Le 18 sept. 2019 à 22:02, David Kastrup  a écrit :
> 
> k...@aspodata.se writes:
> 
>> Jacques Menu:
>> ...
>>> Now, how about a full 12xn table service?
>> ...
>> 
>> What is that ?
> 
> I'd assume a set for 12 persons consisting of n items for each.

Right, didn’t know the english name for such a table set…

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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hum, weird. Maybe you could change the dimension, e.g.:

#(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
  (interpret-markup layout props
   (markup
(#:with-dimensions (cons 0.2 1.1) (cons 0.3 2.7) ;; <= Set dimensions
 (#:stencil
  (make-path-stencil
   '(M .2 5 C -.5 3.8 0 2.2 1 2.2 L .95 0.2
 L 0 0 L 2.2 0 L 1.2 .2 L 1.2 2.2 C 2.2
 2.2 2.7 3.8 2 5 Z M -.1 3.6 L 2.3 3.6)
   .1 .6 .6 #f))

Cheers,
Pierre

Le mer. 18 sept. 2019 à 22:13,  a écrit :

> Pierre:
> > Le mer. 18 sept. 2019 à 13:41,  a écrit :
> > > It is nice, but it makes the score take 3 pages instead of 2. Perhaps
> > > it goes back to 2 pages if one make it smaller. I like your rendition
> > > of the foot.
> > Just for info, you can change the scale according to your will:
> > #(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
> >   (interpret-markup layout props
> >(markup
> > (#:stencil
> >  (make-path-stencil
> >'(M 0.2 5 C -.5 3.8 0 2.2 1 2.2
> >  L .95 0.2 L 0 0 L 2.2 0 L 1.2 .2
> >  L 1.2 2.2 C 2.2 2.2 2.7 3.8 2 5 Z
> >  M -.1 3.6 L 2.3 3.6)
> >.1
> >;.6 .6  ;; <= change scale here, e.g.:
> >.5 .5
> >#f)
>
> I have to go down to .2 .2 scaling to get the score on 2 pages, but
> then the wine glass is too small.
>
> Regards,
> /karl Hammar
>
>
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Re: Drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread Hans Åberg

> On 18 Sep 2019, at 04:56, Brian Barker via lilypond-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> At 22:01 17/09/2019 +0200, Karl Hammar wrote:
>> ... I made a little wineglass symbol where in the song you are to take a 
>> drink, as in bar 14 in: 
>> http://aspodata.se/choir/ud/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki.pdf
>>  ...
> 
> The first basses won't get much drinking done during a vivace crotchet, 
> especially as they have to squeeze a breath in as well! Why do the other 
> voices get five times as long to get tipsy? I think we should be told …

In the Swedish song “Helan går” (which sounds as “Hell and Gore” in English), 
one makes a hold where the lyrics at [1] mark “Drink”, so it should be a 
fermata there, cf. [2] times 1:45 and hold at 1:58. In the stage performance of 
"Metsämiehen juomalaulu" at [3], the choir does not bother about that, though.


1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helan_Går
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjcGAKU23Qc
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS7Q2GI2gjM



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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread karl
Pierre:
> Le mer. 18 sept. 2019 à 13:41,  a écrit :
> > It is nice, but it makes the score take 3 pages instead of 2. Perhaps
> > it goes back to 2 pages if one make it smaller. I like your rendition
> > of the foot.
> Just for info, you can change the scale according to your will:
> #(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
>   (interpret-markup layout props
>(markup
> (#:stencil
>  (make-path-stencil
>'(M 0.2 5 C -.5 3.8 0 2.2 1 2.2
>  L .95 0.2 L 0 0 L 2.2 0 L 1.2 .2
>  L 1.2 2.2 C 2.2 2.2 2.7 3.8 2 5 Z
>  M -.1 3.6 L 2.3 3.6)
>.1
>;.6 .6  ;; <= change scale here, e.g.:
>.5 .5
>#f)

I have to go down to .2 .2 scaling to get the score on 2 pages, but 
then the wine glass is too small.

Regards,
/karl Hammar



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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread David Kastrup
k...@aspodata.se writes:

> Jacques Menu:
> ...
>> Now, how about a full 12xn table service?
> ...
>
> What is that ?

I'd assume a set for 12 persons consisting of n items for each.

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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread karl
Jacques Menu:
...
> Now, how about a full 12xn table service?
...

What is that ?

Regards,
/Karl Hammar


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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Karl

Le mer. 18 sept. 2019 à 13:41,  a écrit :


> It is nice, but it makes the score take 3 pages instead of 2. Perhaps
> it goes back to 2 pages if one make it smaller. I like your rendition
> of the foot.
>

Just for info, you can change the scale according to your will:

#(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
  (interpret-markup layout props
   (markup
(#:stencil
 (make-path-stencil
   '(M 0.2 5 C -.5 3.8 0 2.2 1 2.2
 L .95 0.2 L 0 0 L 2.2 0 L 1.2 .2
 L 1.2 2.2 C 2.2 2.2 2.7 3.8 2 5 Z
 M -.1 3.6 L 2.3 3.6)
   .1
   ;.6 .6  ;; <= change scale here, e.g.:
   .5 .5
   #f)

Kippis!
Pierre
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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread Jacques Menu
Very interesting! Now, how about a full 12xn table service?

JM

> Le 18 sept. 2019 à 13:39, k...@aspodata.se a écrit :
> 
> Peirre Perol-Schneider:
>> #(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
>>  (interpret-markup layout props
>>   (markup
>>(#:stencil
>> (make-path-stencil
>>   '(M 0.2 5 C -.5 3.8 0 2.2 1 2.2
>> L .95 0.2 L 0 0 L 2.2 0 L 1.2 .2
>> L 1.2 2.2 C 2.2 2.2 2.7 3.8 2 5 Z
>> M -.1 3.6 L 2.3 3.6)
>>   .1 .6 .6 #f)
>> {
>>  c'^\markup\wineGlass
>> }
> 
> It is nice, but it makes the score take 3 pages instead of 2. Perhaps 
> it goes back to 2 pages if one make it smaller. I like your rendition 
> of the foot.
> 
> Though I guess a glass with straight sides are more appropriate at 
> thoose singing and drinking games.
> 
> I think I'll settle with
> 
> kippis = \markup {
>  \postscript "
> newpath
> 1   1.5 moveto
> 0.58 2.4 lineto
> 1.42 2.4 lineto
> closepath
> 0.7 setgray fill
> stroke
> 
> 0 setgray
> 1   0.7 moveto
> 0.3 0.5 lineto
> 1.7 0.5 lineto
> 1   0.7 lineto
> 
> 1   1.5 lineto
> 0.3 3   lineto
> 1.7 3   lineto
> 1   1.5 lineto
> stroke
> "
> }
> 
> 
> Regards,
> /Karl Hammar
> 
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Re: Drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread karl
Hans Åberg:
> > On 17 Sep 2019, at 22:01, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
...
> > http://aspodata.se/git/musik/Eduard_Hermes/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/
...
> The title seems misspelt: Metsämiehen juomalaulu, "A hunter's drinking 
> song”.

Well, it's just the dir/filename, I probably should change that.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar


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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread karl
Peirre Perol-Schneider:
> #(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
>   (interpret-markup layout props
>(markup
> (#:stencil
>  (make-path-stencil
>'(M 0.2 5 C -.5 3.8 0 2.2 1 2.2
>  L .95 0.2 L 0 0 L 2.2 0 L 1.2 .2
>  L 1.2 2.2 C 2.2 2.2 2.7 3.8 2 5 Z
>  M -.1 3.6 L 2.3 3.6)
>.1 .6 .6 #f)
> {
>   c'^\markup\wineGlass
> }

It is nice, but it makes the score take 3 pages instead of 2. Perhaps 
it goes back to 2 pages if one make it smaller. I like your rendition 
of the foot.

Though I guess a glass with straight sides are more appropriate at 
thoose singing and drinking games.

I think I'll settle with

kippis = \markup {
  \postscript "
newpath
1   1.5 moveto
0.58 2.4 lineto
1.42 2.4 lineto
closepath
0.7 setgray fill
stroke

0 setgray
1   0.7 moveto
0.3 0.5 lineto
1.7 0.5 lineto
1   0.7 lineto

1   1.5 lineto
0.3 3   lineto
1.7 3   lineto
1   1.5 lineto
stroke
"
}


Regards,
/Karl Hammar


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Re: Fwd: Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread karl
Malte Meyn:
> Am 17.09.19 um 22:01 schrieb k...@aspodata.se:
...
> > http://aspodata.se/git/musik/Eduard_Hermes/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/
...
> You could search for a font containing the wine emoji and include that as
> 
> \markup \override #'(font-name . "my font") \char ##x1f377

Good suggestion, but it is kind of too much detail, I think. And it 
makes the score take up 3 pages instead of 2, guess that can be solved 
by makeing it smaller.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar


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Re: Drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread David Kastrup
Brian Barker via lilypond-user  writes:

> At 22:01 17/09/2019 +0200, Karl Hammar wrote:
>> ... I made a little wineglass symbol where in the song you are to
>> take a drink, as in bar 14 in:
>> http://aspodata.se/choir/ud/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki.pdf
>> ...
>
> The first basses won't get much drinking done during a vivace
> crotchet, especially as they have to squeeze a breath in as well! Why
> do the other voices get five times as long to get tipsy? I think we
> should be told ...

Because they are still sober when starting to sing.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Fwd: Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread Malte Meyn

Forgot the list …

Am 17.09.19 um 22:01 schrieb k...@aspodata.se:

  As an idea a saw somewhere, I made a little wineglass symbol
  where in the song you are to take a drink, as in bar 14 in:
http://aspodata.se/choir/ud/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki.pdf
  source code in
http://aspodata.se/git/musik/Eduard_Hermes/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/

Perhaps someone would be interested in improving the design, currently
it is a simple postscript markup:


You could search for a font containing the wine emoji and include that as

\markup \override #'(font-name . "my font") \char ##x1f377

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Re: Drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread Hans Åberg

> On 17 Sep 2019, at 22:01, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
> 
> As an idea a saw somewhere, I made a little wineglass symbol
> where in the song you are to take a drink, as in bar 14 in:
> http://aspodata.se/choir/ud/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki.pdf
> source code in 
> http://aspodata.se/git/musik/Eduard_Hermes/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/

The title seems misspelt: Metsämiehen juomalaulu, "A hunter's drinking song”.



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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Karl,
How about:

%%
\version "2.19.83"

#(define-markup-command (wineGlass layout props)()
  (interpret-markup layout props
   (markup
(#:stencil
 (make-path-stencil
   '(M 0.2 5 C -.5 3.8 0 2.2 1 2.2
 L .95 0.2 L 0 0 L 2.2 0 L 1.2 .2
 L 1.2 2.2 C 2.2 2.2 2.7 3.8 2 5 Z
 M -.1 3.6 L 2.3 3.6)
   .1 .6 .6 #f)
{
  c'^\markup\wineGlass
}
%%

Cheers,
Pierre

Le mar. 17 sept. 2019 à 22:02,  a écrit :

>  As an idea a saw somewhere, I made a little wineglass symbol
>  where in the song you are to take a drink, as in bar 14 in:
>
> http://aspodata.se/choir/ud/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki.pdf
>  source code in
> http://aspodata.se/git/musik/Eduard_Hermes/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/
>
> Perhaps someone would be interested in improving the design, currently
> it is a simple postscript markup:
>
> kippis = \markup {
>   \postscript "
> 0 0.5 moveto
> 2 0.5 lineto
> stroke
>
> 1   0.5 moveto
> 1   1.5 lineto
> 0.3 3   lineto
> 1.7 3   lineto
> 1   1.5 lineto
> stroke
> "
> }
>
> Regards,
> /Karl Hammar
>
>
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Re: drinking song symbols

2019-09-18 Thread Jacques Menu
As the french saying goes: « Qu’importe le flacon, pourvu qu’on ait l’ivresse! 
» (No matter the bottle, as long as we get drunk!).

JM

> Le 18 sept. 2019 à 08:07, Andrew Bernard  a écrit :
> 
> After a few repeats, does it matter what the symbol is?
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> On 18/9/19 6:01 am, k...@aspodata.se wrote:
>>  As an idea a saw somewhere, I made a little wineglass symbol
>>  where in the song you are to take a drink, as in bar 14 in:
>> http://aspodata.se/choir/ud/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki.pdf
>>  
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Re: Drinking song symbols

2019-09-17 Thread Brian Barker via lilypond-user

At 22:01 17/09/2019 +0200, Karl Hammar wrote:
... I made a little wineglass symbol where in the song you are to 
take a drink, as in bar 14 in: 
http://aspodata.se/choir/ud/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki/k%C3%A4y_metsolan_halki.pdf 
...


The first basses won't get much drinking done during a vivace 
crotchet, especially as they have to squeeze a breath in as well! Why 
do the other voices get five times as long to get tipsy? I think we 
should be told ...


Brian Barker  



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