Re: midi keyboard input

2009-01-02 Thread lasconic


Laura Conrad wrote:
 
 The most obvious thing wrong with the note entry is that each measure
 has a comment % measure 1.  If it had the actual measure number it
 would be useful.
 Actually it's easier than that -- I just said apt-get install
 mscore. 
 

It looks like you find a bug. Regarding apt-get, you will have the last
stable version 0.9.3 I think.
If the bug is too annoying, you can try a prerelease :
http://www.musescore.org/en/download
It should be corrected. If not, feel free to submit a bug report.


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Re: midi keyboard input

2009-01-02 Thread Nicolas Sceaux

Le 1 janv. 09 à 23:02, Laura Conrad a écrit :


It looks like there are rumor-based solutions that might be closer to
what I need.  I was hoping someone would say, I'm entering notes into
emacs via keyboard, and here are the programs I use and the order in
which I start them.  But maybe nobody is entering notes into emacs
via a MIDI keyboard.


I used to do that: entering notes with my left hand on the midi  
keyboard,

and setting durations (and possibly articulation) with my right hand,
in an emacs buffer.

I was using the combination lyqi+rumor, on linux. I don't know if it
still working, though. http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/lilypond/ 
lyqi.html
But that won't solve your audio feedback problem. (My keyboard was  
playing

the notes, so I didn't care about that.)

nicolas



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Re: midi keyboard input

2009-01-02 Thread Laura Conrad
 lasconic == lasconic  lasco...@gmail.com writes:

lasconic Laura Conrad wrote:
 
 The most obvious thing wrong with the note entry is that each measure
 has a comment % measure 1.  If it had the actual measure number it
 would be useful.
 Actually it's easier than that -- I just said apt-get install
 mscore. 
 

lasconic It looks like you find a bug.

I reported it, and they claim it's fixed in later releases.

lasconic Regarding apt-get, you will have the last stable version
lasconic 0.9.3 I think.  

I seem to have 9.2.  I don't know why; someone commenting on my bug
report has 9.3 on Ubuntu 8.10.  In any case, they say they're fixing
lots of stuff about lilypond export, so if I end up going this way,
I'll get a later release.


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Re: midi keyboard input

2009-01-02 Thread Laura Conrad
 Nicolas == Nicolas Sceaux nicolas.sce...@free.fr writes:

Nicolas Le 1 janv. 09 à 23:02, Laura Conrad a écrit :
 It looks like there are rumor-based solutions that might be closer to
 what I need.  I was hoping someone would say, I'm entering notes into
 emacs via keyboard, and here are the programs I use and the order in
 which I start them.  But maybe nobody is entering notes into emacs
 via a MIDI keyboard.

Nicolas I used to do that: entering notes with my left hand on
Nicolas the midi keyboard, and setting durations (and possibly
Nicolas articulation) with my right hand, in an emacs buffer.

Nicolas I was using the combination lyqi+rumor, on linux. I don't
Nicolas know if it still working,
Nicolas though. http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/lilypond/
lyqi.html 

I tried it when I first had the keyboard, and don't remember what my
problems were.  When I have a new toy, I just try things until
something works. 

I tried it again a few days ago, and wasn't able to compile rumor for
my current system.  

Nicolas But that won't solve your audio feedback problem. (My
Nicolas keyboard was playing the notes, so I didn't care about
Nicolas that.)

It isn't that hearing the notes is really that important, but I
thought it was something I should be able to do.  

I'm now thinking about whether my toy MIDI drum kit would do it, but the
problem is that the computer doesn't have a sound card.  Of course
there are old sound cards from former computers lying around, but I
really thought the USB stuff plus jack would do this.

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Re: midi keyboard input

2009-01-01 Thread Laura Conrad
 M == M Watts zwy648...@gmail.com writes:

M Unfortunately, the link to Hans Lub's site (author of midi-input mode)
M from linux-sound.org is dead
M http://utopia.knoware.nl/~hlub/uck/software/

I can send you the code I'm using if you like, which I downloaded when
I originally got the keyboard.

 I know there are several other ways to use a MIDI keyboard for
 lilypond input; I have tried some of the others, and this was the
 first one I managed to get working.  If nobody knows the answer to
 this specific question, but does have some other way to use a MIDI
 keyboard to both see lilypond and hear audio output, I'd be glad to
 hear about specifics.
 
M There's always rosegarden, the all-singing, all-dancing midi
M sequencer, which includes lilypond output, both as .ly and .pdf -- it
M should be in Ubuntu repositories.

I was afraid that was going to be the answer.  I do have it installed,
and sort of working, but I'm finding it very clumsy; certainly much
harder to use for this purpose than entering the notes into an emacs
buffer.  For one thing, I can simultaneously type in markup that
Rosegarden probably doesn't know how to do, like specifying some
accidentals as ficta.

I played with it a little recently and was able to record some midi
events and get a PDF of what lilypond and rosegarden jointly
interpreted them to mean, but was unable to find where rosegarden put
the .ly file.  But because of the previous paragraph, this is unlikely
to be the right answer to this question, although I'm sure there are
questions to which it's a very good answer.

It looks like there are rumor-based solutions that might be closer to
what I need.  I was hoping someone would say, I'm entering notes into
emacs via keyboard, and here are the programs I use and the order in
which I start them.  But maybe nobody is entering notes into emacs
via a MIDI keyboard.

M Rosegarden's lilypond output is usually better than the hamfisted
M method of recording a midi file with a non-lilypond aware app, and
M processing the file with midi2ly.

I use midi2ly sometimes when someone else has transcribed something
and won't give me any other usable input, but I certainly wouldn't
do my own transcriptions that way.  

M Hydrogen (drum machine) also includes lilypond output.

The music I transcribe doesn't usually come with drum parts.

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Re: midi keyboard input

2009-01-01 Thread Laura Conrad
 lasconic == lasconic  lasco...@gmail.com writes:

lasconic Another way is to use MuseScore :
lasconic http://www.musescore.org Lilypond output is quite beta
lasconic for the moment, but to get the pitches it should be ok I
lasconic guess.

That's actually easier than I expected.  Thanks for pointing it out --
it's certainly easier to deal with than any of the connecting jack to
external synthesizers I've played with.  And to get .ly output you
just say save as and tell it you want lilypond and where to put it.
Very civilized for a GUI.

The most obvious thing wrong with the note entry is that each measure
has a comment % measure 1.  If it had the actual measure number it
would be useful.

lasconic MIDI input is working on windows and linux.
lasconic You can even use a prerelease for ubuntu :
lasconic http://prereleases.musescore.org/linux/

Actually it's easier than that -- I just said apt-get install
mscore. 

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Re: midi keyboard input

2008-12-31 Thread M Watts

Laura Conrad wrote:

(This is in Ubuntu 8.10 linux.)

I can use midi-input-mode in emacs to enter lilypond notes with my
left hand, and the durations on the numeric keypad with my right hand.

I can set up qsynth with jackd so that I get audio for the notes I
play on the MIDI keyboard.

But if I have the notes set up to sound, they don't get into the emacs
buffer, and vice versa.

I have done some playing with qjackctl and midi-thru and such, and
have not stumbled on a solution that would allow me to both see the
lilypond in the emacs buffer and hear the notes I play.

Can anyone give me a hint?
  
Is midi-input-mode aware of jack?   Sounds (no pun intended) like you 
need the emacs mode to create a midi input port so that you can connect 
your midi keyboard to it via jack, as well as to qsynth.


Unfortunately, the link to Hans Lub's site (author of midi-input mode) 
from linux-sound.org is dead http://utopia.knoware.nl/~hlub/uck/software/

I know there are several other ways to use a MIDI keyboard for
lilypond input; I have tried some of the others, and this was the
first one I managed to get working.  If nobody knows the answer to
this specific question, but does have some other way to use a MIDI
keyboard to both see lilypond and hear audio output, I'd be glad to
hear about specifics.
  
There's always rosegarden, the all-singing, all-dancing midi sequencer, 
which includes lilypond output, both as .ly and .pdf -- it should be in 
Ubuntu repositories.


Rosegarden's lilypond output is usually better than the hamfisted method 
of recording a midi file with a non-lilypond aware app, and processing 
the file with midi2ly.


Hydrogen (drum machine) also includes lilypond output.


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Re: midi keyboard input

2008-12-31 Thread lasconic

Another way is to use MuseScore : http://www.musescore.org
Lilypond output is quite beta for the moment, but to get the pitches it
should be ok I guess. 
MIDI input is working on windows and linux.
You can even use a prerelease for ubuntu :
http://prereleases.musescore.org/linux/





M Watts wrote:
 
 Laura Conrad wrote:
 (This is in Ubuntu 8.10 linux.)

 I can use midi-input-mode in emacs to enter lilypond notes with my
 left hand, and the durations on the numeric keypad with my right hand.

 I can set up qsynth with jackd so that I get audio for the notes I
 play on the MIDI keyboard.

 But if I have the notes set up to sound, they don't get into the emacs
 buffer, and vice versa.

 I have done some playing with qjackctl and midi-thru and such, and
 have not stumbled on a solution that would allow me to both see the
 lilypond in the emacs buffer and hear the notes I play.

 Can anyone give me a hint?
   
 Is midi-input-mode aware of jack?   Sounds (no pun intended) like you 
 need the emacs mode to create a midi input port so that you can connect 
 your midi keyboard to it via jack, as well as to qsynth.
 
 Unfortunately, the link to Hans Lub's site (author of midi-input mode) 
 from linux-sound.org is dead http://utopia.knoware.nl/~hlub/uck/software/
 I know there are several other ways to use a MIDI keyboard for
 lilypond input; I have tried some of the others, and this was the
 first one I managed to get working.  If nobody knows the answer to
 this specific question, but does have some other way to use a MIDI
 keyboard to both see lilypond and hear audio output, I'd be glad to
 hear about specifics.
   
 There's always rosegarden, the all-singing, all-dancing midi sequencer, 
 which includes lilypond output, both as .ly and .pdf -- it should be in 
 Ubuntu repositories.
 
 Rosegarden's lilypond output is usually better than the hamfisted method 
 of recording a midi file with a non-lilypond aware app, and processing 
 the file with midi2ly.
 
 Hydrogen (drum machine) also includes lilypond output.
 
 
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re: midi keyboard input

2008-12-31 Thread Dave Phillips

M Watts wrote:

 Unfortunately, the link to Hans Lub's site (author of midi-input mode)
 from linux-sound.org is dead http://utopia.knoware.nl/~hlub/uck/software/

A moment with Google and we find this updated URL:

   http://utopia.knoware.nl/~hlub/uck/rlwrap/

I searched for hans lub midi.

Best,

dp



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Re: midi keyboard input

2008-12-31 Thread M Watts

Dave Phillips wrote:

M Watts wrote:

 Unfortunately, the link to Hans Lub's site (author of midi-input mode)
 from linux-sound.org is dead 
http://utopia.knoware.nl/~hlub/uck/software/


A moment with Google and we find this updated URL:

   http://utopia.knoware.nl/~hlub/uck/rlwrap/

I searched for hans lub midi.

Best,

dp


Ah, thanx dp -- I searched for hans lub emacs, but didn't see it :

A moment spent in the next directory up -- 
http://utopia.knoware.nl/~hlub/uck/ -- won't find the /rlwrap directory 
even though it's on that server.


In any case, the download link is currently returning a 404, so I can't 
test it out right now.

http://utopia.knoware.nl/~hlub/uck/rlwrap/midi-input-0.04a.tgz


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