Re: problem with complicated tuplets (xenakis)

2010-12-14 Thread Jan Warchoł
Hi,

please send all messages also to the mailing list (use reply to all)
- that way everyone, not only me, can participate in solving your
problem.

2010/12/13 Sepand Shahab sepandsha...@alum.calarts.edu:
 Hi,

 Thanks very much for the responses, and sorry for my incomplete posting.

 the .png can be found here:

 http://tinypic.com/r/fp5cm9/7

 (The problem is that the music disappears off the page)

The cause of the problem is that LilyPond does not make any line
breaks in the middle of the tuplet by default. In your code no tuplet
ends at the end of the measure (you can check this by inserting bar
checks) so Lily cannot make any breaks and music overflows page. The
second staff is not needed for this problem to occur - try compiling
this:
{
c32 c c16
\times 8/7 {c16 c c c c c32 c c16}
\times 7/6 {c c c c c c }
\times 5/4 { c16 c c c32 c  }
\times 4/3 {c16 c32 c c c  }
\times 4/3 {c16 c c }
\times 5/4 { c c c32 c c16   }
\times 6/5 {c16 c c32 c c c c16   }
\times 7/6 { c16 c c32 c c16 c32  c c c }
}
\layout {
indent = 10 \cm
}

You can override LilyPond's default behaviour, see Notation Reference
1.2.1 Tuplets
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Writing-rhythms#Tuplets

Besides, i think that

\times 4/3 {c16 c c }

is not the standard way of writing. I suppose it should be \times 2/3 {c8 c c }.

cheers,
Janek

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Re: problem with complicated tuplets (xenakis)

2010-12-11 Thread Jan Warchoł
Hi,

2010/12/10 Sepand Shahab sepandsha...@alum.calarts.edu

 Dear list members,

 I'm having a problem with tuplets displaying correctly in certain situations 
 but
 not in others. for example, the following works fine on its own:

 \time 4/4
 c32 c c16
 \times 8/7 {c16 c c c c c32 c c16}
 \times 7/6 {c c c c c c }
 \times 5/4 { c16 c c c32 c  }
 \times 4/3 {c16 c32 c c c  }
 \times 4/3 {c16 c c }
 \times 5/4 { c c c32 c c16   }
 \times 6/5 {c16 c c32 c c c c16   }
 \times 7/6 { c16 c c32 c c16 c32  c c c }

 But it does not display correctly if there is a part above it with similarly
 complicated tuplets.  For example if you take what's above and put it in the
 left hand of a piano part, then take the exact same music, shift it over by 
 one
 measure and place it in the right hand, something goes wrong.  why?
 I'm using lilypond version 2.13.7-1 on osx 10.6.5

I tried doing what you described but the output seems quite acceptable...
Can you please do the following:
- create a complete code (two staves with above tuplets shifted by 1
measure or whatever else that show that wrong output),
- create a png from it (either directly, see Program usage 3.2.2
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Command-line-options-for-lilypond#Command-line-options-for-lilypond.
or indirectly, by creating a pdf and taking a screenshot of it),
- mark what's wrong on that png,
- send the png with the code that was used to create it to the mailing
list (png must be small - max 60 kB if i remember correctly - or you
have to host it somewhere and send us a link)

cheers,
Janek

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Re: problem with complicated tuplets (xenakis)

2010-12-10 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Sepand Shahab
sepandsha...@alum.calarts.edu wrote:
 For example if you take what's above and put it in the
 left hand of a piano part, then take the exact same music, shift it over by 
 one
 measure and place it in the right hand, something goes wrong.  why?

It may be laziness on my part, but I suspect many of us will be more
able to help if you provide us with a complete (however short)
example... See our recommandations on
http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples

Cheers,
Valentin.

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