Tie over Repeat Bar
Hello!
In the attached snippet I want to indicate that the f4 at the end of the
first alternative should be tied upon repeat to the f at the beginning of
the repeated section.
Using ~ does not work as Lilypond considers it unterminated.
What should I do?
Thank you for your kind attention.
Mark
\version 2.16.2
\relative c''{
\time 3/4
d4 d d |
\repeat volta 2 {
\times 2/3 { f8 g f } e4 e | }
\alternative {{ e r f } { d2. }}
}
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RE: Tie over Repeat Bar
Robert: Thank you for your reply and the suggestion. I tried \laissezVibrer. It just did not look long enough. I shall put it in the score. Mark From: Robert Schmaus [mailto:robert.schm...@web.de] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:49 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Tie over Repeat Bar Hi Mark, Check the user guide for a command called called \laissezVibrer - that's what you're looking for. Best, Robert - Von meinem Fliewatüüt gesendet. On 3 Sep 2013, at 17:20, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello! In the attached snippet I want to indicate that the “f4” at the end of the first alternative should be tied upon repeat to the “f” at the beginning of the repeated section. Using “ ~ ” does not work as Lilypond considers it “unterminated.” What should I do? Thank you for your kind attention. Mark Tie over Repeat.ly ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Tie over Repeat Bar
Mr. Holmes, I did reply to all. Your name was the only one to which I could reply! Mark From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:58 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; LilyPond User Group Subject: Re: Tie over Repeat Bar Please remember to reply all. This section mentions repeatTie and laissezVibrer, and if neither of those does what you want, I don't understand what you want, so an image would be helpful. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Mark Stephen Mrotek mailto:carsonm...@ca.rr.com To: 'Phil Holmes' mailto:m...@philholmes.net Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Tie over Repeat Bar Mr. Holmes: If I had found the answer to my question in the documentation http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#tie s, ( only ties into the second alternative are covered ) I would not have bothered the user's group. Mark From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 8:30 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Subject: Re: Tie over Repeat Bar Please read all of the section on Ties in the notation reference, and ask if this does not answer your question. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Mark Stephen Mrotek mailto:carsonm...@ca.rr.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Tie over Repeat Bar Hello! In the attached snippet I want to indicate that the f4 at the end of the first alternative should be tied upon repeat to the f at the beginning of the repeated section. Using ~ does not work as Lilypond considers it unterminated. What should I do? Thank you for your kind attention. Mark _ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie over Repeat Bar
Hi Mark, Check the user guide for a command called called \laissezVibrer - that's what you're looking for. Best, Robert - Von meinem Fliewatüüt gesendet. On 3 Sep 2013, at 17:20, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello! In the attached snippet I want to indicate that the “f4” at the end of the first alternative should be tied upon repeat to the “f” at the beginning of the repeated section. Using “ ~ ” does not work as Lilypond considers it “unterminated.” What should I do? Thank you for your kind attention. Mark Tie over Repeat.ly ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie over Repeat Bar
Please remember to reply all. This section mentions repeatTie and laissezVibrer, and if neither of those does what you want, I don't understand what you want, so an image would be helpful. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Mark Stephen Mrotek To: 'Phil Holmes' Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: RE: Tie over Repeat Bar Mr. Holmes: If I had found the answer to my question in the documentation http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#ties, ( only ties into the second alternative are covered ) I would not have bothered the user's group. Mark From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 8:30 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Subject: Re: Tie over Repeat Bar Please read all of the section on Ties in the notation reference, and ask if this does not answer your question. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Mark Stephen Mrotek To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Tie over Repeat Bar Hello! In the attached snippet I want to indicate that the f4 at the end of the first alternative should be tied upon repeat to the f at the beginning of the repeated section. Using ~ does not work as Lilypond considers it unterminated. What should I do? Thank you for your kind attention. Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie over Repeat Bar
2013/9/3 Robert Schmaus robert.schm...@web.de: Hi Mark, Check the user guide for a command called called \laissezVibrer - that's what you're looking for. Best, Robert - Von meinem Fliewatüüt gesendet. On 3 Sep 2013, at 17:20, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello! In the attached snippet I want to indicate that the “f4” at the end of the first alternative should be tied upon repeat to the “f” at the beginning of the repeated section. Using “ ~ ” does not work as Lilypond considers it “unterminated.” What should I do? Thank you for your kind attention. Mark There's also: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=794 with some additional functionality, if needed. Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie over Repeat Bar
Hi Mark, Pretty much everything can be tweaked in Lilypond, so I'm sure the shape of \laissezVibrer can be made longer. For versions 2.16 and 2.17, section 5.5.4 of the respective manual should help you further (I would expect the syntax in those two versions not to be identical, however, so mind the version of your LP version). This is unfortunately nothing I can give you more hints - I've always been delighted with Lilypond's default output and have never ever used any \tweak or \shape command ... But I'm sure someone else on the list can help you with that. Actually, \shape seems to be the command of your choice, and it looks rather intuitive. Best, Robert - Von meinem Fliewatüüt gesendet. On 3 Sep 2013, at 19:03, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: Robert: Thank you for your reply and the suggestion. I tried \laissezVibrer. It just did not look long enough. I shall put it in the score. Mark From: Robert Schmaus [mailto:robert.schm...@web.de] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:49 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Tie over Repeat Bar Hi Mark, Check the user guide for a command called called \laissezVibrer - that's what you're looking for. Best, Robert - Von meinem Fliewatüüt gesendet. On 3 Sep 2013, at 17:20, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello! In the attached snippet I want to indicate that the “f4” at the end of the first alternative should be tied upon repeat to the “f” at the beginning of the repeated section. Using “ ~ ” does not work as Lilypond considers it “unterminated.” What should I do? Thank you for your kind attention. Mark Tie over Repeat.ly ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie over Repeat Bar
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 10:03:33AM -0700, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
I tried \laissezVibrer. It just did not look long enough. I shall put it in
the score.
As others have said, there is the shape directive. Some time ago,
I gleaned this function off of this list. Put this in your code:
extendLV = #(define-music-function (parser location further) (number?) #{
\once \override LaissezVibrerTie #'X-extent = #'(0 . 0)
\once \override LaissezVibrerTie #'details #'note-head-gap = #(/ further
-2)
\once \override LaissezVibrerTie #'extra-offset = #(cons (/ further 2) 0)
#})
Then in your music, write:
\extendLV #3 ees \laissezVibrer
and adjust '#3' to suit your needs.
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Tie over repeat
Gentlemen: Thank you for your replies and the references. This shall be my first foray into tweaking. I am sure that, as always, suggestions from the users shall increase my knowledge. Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie over Repeat Bar
On 04/09/13 03:03, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
Robert:
Thank you for your reply and the suggestion. I tried \laissezVibrer.
It just did not look long enough. I shall put it in the score.
LV ties can be lengthened. If you want all LV ties in the piece longer,
then remove the \once - I always do - Lilypond's default LV tie length
looks too stubby for my liking:
\version 2.17.25
% extend laissez-vibrer tie
extendLV = #(define-music-function (parser location further) (number?) #{
\once \override LaissezVibrerTie.X-extent = #'(0 . 0)
\once \override LaissezVibrerTie.details.note-head-gap = #(/ further -2)
\once \override LaissezVibrerTie.extra-offset = #(cons (/ further 2) 0)
#})
\relative f' {
c1\laissezVibrer
\extendLV #5
c\laissezVibrer
c\laissezVibrer
}
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RE: Tie over Repeat Bar
Mr. Payne:
Thank you for your reply. Some other users have supplied a code that works
in 2.16.2.
Mark
From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of
Nick Payne
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 3:17 PM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Tie over Repeat Bar
On 04/09/13 03:03, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:
Robert:
Thank you for your reply and the suggestion. I tried \laissezVibrer. It just
did not look long enough. I shall put it in the score.
LV ties can be lengthened. If you want all LV ties in the piece longer, then
remove the \once - I always do - Lilypond's default LV tie length looks too
stubby for my liking:
\version 2.17.25
% extend laissez-vibrer tie
extendLV = #(define-music-function (parser location further) (number?) #{
\once \override LaissezVibrerTie.X-extent = #'(0 . 0)
\once \override LaissezVibrerTie.details.note-head-gap = #(/ further -2)
\once \override LaissezVibrerTie.extra-offset = #(cons (/ further 2) 0)
#})
\relative f' {
c1\laissezVibrer
\extendLV #5
c\laissezVibrer
c\laissezVibrer
}
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Re: Lyric with tie over repeat seems to be messing things up
On 8 October 2010 23:30, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Tim Have a look at Repeats with alternative endings in http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/techniques-specific-to-lyrics#lyrics-and-repeats This is for 2.13 but I believe it may apply to 2.12 as well. Towards the end of that section it discusses exactly your problem, I believe. It may help you to figure it out. Not quite exactly (I don't have any \alternative sections), but close. Thanks; I'll see if I can work it out from there. -- Tim Rowe ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Lyric with tie over repeat seems to be messing things up
I've tried to reduce this as much as I can, but if I change almost
anything the effect goes away.
My problem is, in the score below the tied note on the lyric x seems
to be forcing a spurious repeat bar. If I comment out the lyrics
everything is fine. If I \skip to the end of the bar x ties into
*and* get rid of the tie at the end of that bar then everything is
fine, but when I put that tie back in I get *two* spurious bars.
What am I doing wrong here, and how do I fix it?
Thanks. Markup follows.
\version 2.12.3
soprano = \relative c'
{
\clef treble
\key bes \major
\time 4/4
\partial 8 c8 |
\repeat volta 2
{
c4 c8 c~ c4 c8 c~ |
%c2. r8 c |
c4 c8 c~ c4 c8 c~ |
c4. c8 c c16 c~ c c c8~ |
c4~ c8. c16 c8 c16 c~ c c c8~ |
c2. c8 c~ |
}
c2 r8 c c8. c16~ |
c2 r8 c c8. c16~ |
}
one = \lyricmode {
\repeat volta 2
{
\repeat volta 2
{
A b c d e f
g h i j k l
m n p p q r
s t u v w x
}
}
}
\score {
\new Staff
\new Voice = one { \soprano }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto one { \one }
\layout { }
}
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Re: Lyric with tie over repeat seems to be messing things up
Tim
Have a look at Repeats with alternative endings in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/techniques-specific-to-lyrics#lyrics-and-repeats
This is for 2.13 but I believe it may apply to 2.12
as well. Towards the end of that section it discusses
exactly your problem, I believe. It may help you to
figure it out.
Trevor
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From: Tim Rowe digi...@gmail.com
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Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:34 PM
Subject: Lyric with tie over repeat seems to be messing things up
I've tried to reduce this as much as I can, but if I change almost
anything the effect goes away.
My problem is, in the score below the tied note on the lyric x
seems
to be forcing a spurious repeat bar. If I comment out the lyrics
everything is fine. If I \skip to the end of the bar x ties into
*and* get rid of the tie at the end of that bar then everything is
fine, but when I put that tie back in I get *two* spurious bars.
What am I doing wrong here, and how do I fix it?
Thanks. Markup follows.
\version 2.12.3
soprano = \relative c'
{
\clef treble
\key bes \major
\time 4/4
\partial 8 c8 |
\repeat volta 2
{
c4 c8 c~ c4 c8 c~ |
%c2. r8 c |
c4 c8 c~ c4 c8 c~ |
c4. c8 c c16 c~ c c c8~ |
c4~ c8. c16 c8 c16 c~ c c c8~ |
c2. c8 c~ |
}
c2 r8 c c8. c16~ |
c2 r8 c c8. c16~ |
}
one = \lyricmode {
\repeat volta 2
{
\repeat volta 2
{
A b c d e f
g h i j k l
m n p p q r
s t u v w x
}
}
}
\score {
\new Staff
\new Voice = one { \soprano }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto one { \one }
\layout { }
}
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