Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book? - Lyx
I can't find the OS X binary for the new 2.0 Beta 1, whose feature set with lilypond interests me. Is this integration being discussed using the 1.6.8 version? Thanks! Henry ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
I can see it, yes but it didn't work initially - in fact has never worked until now did you try this in the terminal? /Applications/TeX/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx and it may be coincidence but try running OnyX Damian On 22 Nov 2010, at 01:57, Marc Mouries wrote: were you able to see the preview image of the lilypond score in Lyx? For me on Mac as well when i open the lyx file i get an error message saying that I am missing a latex package. On Nov 21, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Damian leGassick wrote: So... I just ran Onyx 2.2 and now everything works fine (mac OSX 10.6.5) weird anyway... i'll give it a good road test over the next few weeks Damian On 21 Nov 2010, at 18:58, Julien Rioux wrote: On 21/11/2010 12:19 PM, Damian leGassick wrote: 2.13.39 yes, I restarted LyX but I still can't view it in any format except LyXHTML should I enter the lilypond-book converters manually? Damian Hi Damian, So, it sounds like LyX is not detecting your lilypond installation. This is a bug. Can you please let me know your system and which installer did you use for LyX? Also very useful would be if you can capture the output of the LyX's configuration step. To do this you would start lyx from a terminal, click the Tools reconfigure menu, then copypaste what you get in the terminal window. Howver, I don't know how to do this on a MS Windows OS. To set up the converters manually: In Tools Preferences File Handling In File Formats Click New, then fill the following: Format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) Document format: yes Vector graphics format: no Short Name: lilypond-book Extension: lytex In Converters Select these: From format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) To format: LaTeX (plain) Converter: lilypond-book --safe --lily-output-dir=ly-eps $$i Click Add Then select these: From format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) To format: LaTeX (pdflatex) Converter: lilypond-book --safe --pdf --latex-program=pdflatex --lily-output-dir=ly-pdf $$i (all on one line; line-wrappings appear due to email client) Click Add -- Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
Hi Julien lilypond-book is in my path I see no convertors for lilypond or lilypond-book in preferences/file handling/convertors maybe this is my problem? Damian On 19 Nov 2010, at 17:14, Julien Rioux wrote: On 19/11/2010 5:26 AM, Damian leGassick wrote: lyx is also telling me (modules) that i can't enable lilypond-book because some packages are unavailable - which packages are those? Sorry I just realised that my previous message wasn't useful in understanding the error. Is lilypond-book in your PATH? It must be found by LyX at configure time. Could you please make sure it is in your PATH, reconfigure LyX (Tools reconfigure), restart LyX and try again? To specify your PATH either modify the environment variable or the PATH prefix in LyX Tools Preferences Paths Let us know how this goes! Thanks, Regards, Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
On 21/11/2010 11:45 AM, Damian leGassick wrote: Hi Julien lilypond-book is in my path I see no convertors for lilypond or lilypond-book in preferences/file handling/convertors maybe this is my problem? Damian On 19 Nov 2010, at 17:14, Julien Rioux wrote: On 19/11/2010 5:26 AM, Damian leGassick wrote: lyx is also telling me (modules) that i can't enable lilypond-book because some packages are unavailable - which packages are those? Sorry I just realised that my previous message wasn't useful in understanding the error. Is lilypond-book in your PATH? It must be found by LyX at configure time. Could you please make sure it is in your PATH, reconfigure LyX (Tools reconfigure), restart LyX and try again? To specify your PATH either modify the environment variable or the PATH prefix in LyX Tools Preferences Paths Let us know how this goes! Thanks, Regards, Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user What's the output of: lilypond-book --version Also, did you restart LyX after running reconfigure? -- Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
2.13.39 yes, I restarted LyX but I still can't view it in any format except LyXHTML should I enter the lilypond-book converters manually? Damian On 21 Nov 2010, at 17:11, Julien Rioux wrote: On 21/11/2010 11:45 AM, Damian leGassick wrote: Hi Julien lilypond-book is in my path I see no convertors for lilypond or lilypond-book in preferences/file handling/convertors maybe this is my problem? Damian On 19 Nov 2010, at 17:14, Julien Rioux wrote: On 19/11/2010 5:26 AM, Damian leGassick wrote: lyx is also telling me (modules) that i can't enable lilypond-book because some packages are unavailable - which packages are those? Sorry I just realised that my previous message wasn't useful in understanding the error. Is lilypond-book in your PATH? It must be found by LyX at configure time. Could you please make sure it is in your PATH, reconfigure LyX (Tools reconfigure), restart LyX and try again? To specify your PATH either modify the environment variable or the PATH prefix in LyX Tools Preferences Paths Let us know how this goes! Thanks, Regards, Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user What's the output of: lilypond-book --version Also, did you restart LyX after running reconfigure? -- Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
On 21/11/2010 12:19 PM, Damian leGassick wrote: 2.13.39 yes, I restarted LyX but I still can't view it in any format except LyXHTML should I enter the lilypond-book converters manually? Damian Hi Damian, So, it sounds like LyX is not detecting your lilypond installation. This is a bug. Can you please let me know your system and which installer did you use for LyX? Also very useful would be if you can capture the output of the LyX's configuration step. To do this you would start lyx from a terminal, click the Tools reconfigure menu, then copypaste what you get in the terminal window. Howver, I don't know how to do this on a MS Windows OS. To set up the converters manually: In Tools Preferences File Handling In File Formats Click New, then fill the following: Format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) Document format: yes Vector graphics format: no Short Name: lilypond-book Extension: lytex In Converters Select these: From format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) To format: LaTeX (plain) Converter: lilypond-book --safe --lily-output-dir=ly-eps $$i Click Add Then select these: From format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) To format: LaTeX (pdflatex) Converter: lilypond-book --safe --pdf --latex-program=pdflatex --lily-output-dir=ly-pdf $$i (all on one line; line-wrappings appear due to email client) Click Add -- Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
So... I just ran Onyx 2.2 and now everything works fine (mac OSX 10.6.5) weird anyway... i'll give it a good road test over the next few weeks Damian On 21 Nov 2010, at 18:58, Julien Rioux wrote: On 21/11/2010 12:19 PM, Damian leGassick wrote: 2.13.39 yes, I restarted LyX but I still can't view it in any format except LyXHTML should I enter the lilypond-book converters manually? Damian Hi Damian, So, it sounds like LyX is not detecting your lilypond installation. This is a bug. Can you please let me know your system and which installer did you use for LyX? Also very useful would be if you can capture the output of the LyX's configuration step. To do this you would start lyx from a terminal, click the Tools reconfigure menu, then copypaste what you get in the terminal window. Howver, I don't know how to do this on a MS Windows OS. To set up the converters manually: In Tools Preferences File Handling In File Formats Click New, then fill the following: Format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) Document format: yes Vector graphics format: no Short Name: lilypond-book Extension: lytex In Converters Select these: From format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) To format: LaTeX (plain) Converter: lilypond-book --safe --lily-output-dir=ly-eps $$i Click Add Then select these: From format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) To format: LaTeX (pdflatex) Converter: lilypond-book --safe --pdf --latex-program=pdflatex --lily-output-dir=ly-pdf $$i (all on one line; line-wrappings appear due to email client) Click Add -- Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
were you able to see the preview image of the lilypond score in Lyx? For me on Mac as well when i open the lyx file i get an error message saying that I am missing a latex package. On Nov 21, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Damian leGassick wrote: So... I just ran Onyx 2.2 and now everything works fine (mac OSX 10.6.5) weird anyway... i'll give it a good road test over the next few weeks Damian On 21 Nov 2010, at 18:58, Julien Rioux wrote: On 21/11/2010 12:19 PM, Damian leGassick wrote: 2.13.39 yes, I restarted LyX but I still can't view it in any format except LyXHTML should I enter the lilypond-book converters manually? Damian Hi Damian, So, it sounds like LyX is not detecting your lilypond installation. This is a bug. Can you please let me know your system and which installer did you use for LyX? Also very useful would be if you can capture the output of the LyX's configuration step. To do this you would start lyx from a terminal, click the Tools reconfigure menu, then copypaste what you get in the terminal window. Howver, I don't know how to do this on a MS Windows OS. To set up the converters manually: In Tools Preferences File Handling In File Formats Click New, then fill the following: Format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) Document format: yes Vector graphics format: no Short Name: lilypond-book Extension: lytex In Converters Select these: From format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) To format: LaTeX (plain) Converter: lilypond-book --safe --lily-output-dir=ly-eps $$i Click Add Then select these: From format: Lilypond book (LaTeX) To format: LaTeX (pdflatex) Converter: lilypond-book --safe --pdf --latex-program=pdflatex --lily-output-dir=ly-pdf $$i (all on one line; line-wrappings appear due to email client) Click Add -- Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
has anyone got a link for the lilypond.lyx file - i can't see it lyx is also telling me (modules) that i can't enable lilypond-book because some packages are unavailable - which packages are those? thanks damian On 14 Nov 2010, at 01:09, Julien Rioux wrote: On 13/11/2010 3:08 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: How about Lyx and Lilypond integration? How is it going? The first beta version of LyX 2.0 is out since last week. New in this version is support for Lilypond-book (version 2.13 or above) backend: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX20#toc24 Source code tarballs can be found at ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/ and binaries should follow soon. (some linux binaries are available already) To get started with LyX and Lilypond, look for the sample file lilypond.lyx in the examples directory. The LyX projects would very much welcome feedback from lilypond users to improve support before the final release. Regards, Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
On 19/11/2010 5:26 AM, Damian leGassick wrote: has anyone got a link for the lilypond.lyx file - i can't see it Here's the beta version of the file. Where did you download your copy? Did you download the .dmg file for Mac? lyx is also telling me (modules) that i can't enable lilypond-book because some packages are unavailable - which packages are those? these bugs have already been reported: http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7044 http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7045 We'll fix those soon! Please let us know how it goes! Thanks, Julien lilypond.lyx Description: application/lyx ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
On 19/11/2010 5:26 AM, Damian leGassick wrote: lyx is also telling me (modules) that i can't enable lilypond-book because some packages are unavailable - which packages are those? Sorry I just realised that my previous message wasn't useful in understanding the error. Is lilypond-book in your PATH? It must be found by LyX at configure time. Could you please make sure it is in your PATH, reconfigure LyX (Tools reconfigure), restart LyX and try again? To specify your PATH either modify the environment variable or the PATH prefix in LyX Tools Preferences Paths Let us know how this goes! Thanks, Regards, Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: What a cool book! I think I may buy the Kennan book and work my through your workbook! Maybe I'll do some real learning about music. BTW, congratulations on your tenure and promotion. Great news! Thanks Carl. Nice of you to say. Unfortunately with the Univ. budget in the toilet my wife (also tenured) and I could both end up out of work. Hopefully not but it's very uncertain right now. One small thing -- in the Colophon, you refer to a carrot. The proper term, I believe, is caret[1]. Actually, it's probably a circumflex[2]. Haha! What a dumb mistake! I'll fix it right away. Thanks for checking it out. :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
How about Lyx and Lilypond integration? How is it going? 2010/11/13 Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: What a cool book! I think I may buy the Kennan book and work my through your workbook! Maybe I'll do some real learning about music. BTW, congratulations on your tenure and promotion. Great news! Thanks Carl. Nice of you to say. Unfortunately with the Univ. budget in the toilet my wife (also tenured) and I could both end up out of work. Hopefully not but it's very uncertain right now. One small thing -- in the Colophon, you refer to a carrot. The proper term, I believe, is caret[1]. Actually, it's probably a circumflex[2]. Haha! What a dumb mistake! I'll fix it right away. Thanks for checking it out. :) Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
On 13/11/2010 3:08 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: How about Lyx and Lilypond integration? How is it going? The first beta version of LyX 2.0 is out since last week. New in this version is support for Lilypond-book (version 2.13 or above) backend: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX20#toc24 Source code tarballs can be found at ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/ and binaries should follow soon. (some linux binaries are available already) To get started with LyX and Lilypond, look for the sample file lilypond.lyx in the examples directory. The LyX projects would very much welcome feedback from lilypond users to improve support before the final release. Regards, Julien ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
I am getting ready to embard on typesetting a pedagogy book containing mostly large print music but also some text. The book is fairly big for a music book, probably on the order of 150+ pages. I have used embedded Lilypond in OpenOffice documents (OOoLilyPond (OLy) - Music notation in OpenOffice.org), and found it OK for that project, which had more text than music. I was thinking of exploring the possibility of LaTex Lilypond. Has anybody out there done this kind of combo? It is important that I have the ability to define styles for the different types of music, staff sizes, text, page layout, etc., so I can change it easily for the whole document. Would this be possible? Should I write straight in LaTex, or does it make sense to explore other structured formats (e.g., DocBook) ? Thanks much! Henry ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Henry Flurry wrote:
I was thinking of exploring the possibility of LaTex Lilypond.
Has anybody out there done this kind of combo?
My entire Master's thesis was a combination of LaTeX and Lilypond---both
musical examples and the inclusion of an entire modern edition and
apparatus. The musical examples were embedded in the LaTeX source and the
individual pieces of the edition were contained in separate files. This
would give you arbitrary control over the styling of each piece. My
workflow:
- Run lilypond-book on the LaTeX file that contained the edition.
- Run lilypond-book on the two chapters that had examples.
- pdflatex
- bibtex
- pdflatex
- pdflatex
The LaTeX file that contained the edition was a string of:
\clearpage
\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{29. Et son del mio languir cos\`i contento
(seconda parte)}
\label{madrigal29}
\lilypondfile{01-3-29.ly}
It was really quite straightforward. The thesis can be viewed at:
https://dspace.ucalgary.ca/handle/1880/47815
I hope this helps.
Aaron
P.S. I did not make a bigger deal on the list of the release of my thesis
because I was ashamed. Due to a stupid, stupid oversight, the Typeset by
lilypond tagline was omitted from the music of the edition. It was a
perfect opportunity to give back to the Lilypond community, and I miffed
it. I am deeply sorry. For what it's worth, Lilypond was an invaluable
part of my entire educational workflow, and essential to the thesis
itself. My adviser was really unsure whether Lilypond would produce the
desired output, but he was thrilled with the results. I evangelized to
every person that would listen in the department. I also used Lilypond to
typeset examples for a professor's book I was editing. He plans on
including a mention of Lilypond in the text. If that comes to fruition,
I'll let the list know.
___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Aaron Dalton aa...@daltons.ca wrote: On Fri, 12 Nov 2010, Henry Flurry wrote: I was thinking of exploring the possibility of LaTex Lilypond. Has anybody out there done this kind of combo? My entire Master's thesis was a combination of LaTeX and Lilypond---both musical examples and the inclusion of an entire modern edition and apparatus. The musical examples were embedded in the LaTeX source and the individual pieces of the edition were contained in separate files. This would give you arbitrary control over the styling of each piece. My workflow: My counterpoint workbook is also done with LaTeX and Lilypond. It's an excellent combination. Source files are available here if you want to see: http://music2.louisiana.edu/Gratis/ Jon -- Jonathan Kulp http://www.jonathankulp.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: What setup for a Pedagogy Book?
On 11/12/10 6:01 PM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: My counterpoint workbook is also done with LaTeX and Lilypond. It's an excellent combination. Source files are available here if you want to see: http://music2.louisiana.edu/Gratis/ What a cool book! I think I may buy the Kennan book and work my through your workbook! Maybe I'll do some real learning about music. BTW, congratulations on your tenure and promotion. Great news! One small thing -- in the Colophon, you refer to a carrot. The proper term, I believe, is caret[1]. Actually, it's probably a circumflex[2]. Thanks, Carl 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caret 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumflex ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
