Re: fingering notation alternative

2018-05-07 Thread Gianmaria Lari 
On 7 May 2018 at 23:59, Thomas Morley  wrote:

> 2018-05-07 23:35 GMT+02:00 Gianmaria Lari :
>
> >
> > I tried to write alternative fingering putting fingering numbers on a
> > column. This is what I did:
> >
> > { c' \finger \markup \center-column {2 3}}
> >
> > But the distance between numbers is a bit too large. Does exist a better
> > way?
> >
> > Thank you, g.
>
>
> Multiple fingerings are possible. See:
>
> { c'-2-3 c'-3-2 }
>

oh sure!!! I forgot it, thank you


> Or adjust baseline-skip:
> { c' \finger \markup \override #'(baseline-skip . 1.5) \center-column { 2
> 3 } }
>

This will be useful in the future, thank you also for this.


> Btw, please add space around curly braces. Otherwise errors may occur. See:
> tst = {\override TextScript.color = #red}
> {\tst c'-"xy"}
>

Yes, I periodically make this mistake... thank you to remind it!

Regards, g.
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Re: fingering notation alternative

2018-05-07 Thread Thomas Morley 
2018-05-07 23:35 GMT+02:00 Gianmaria Lari :

>
> I tried to write alternative fingering putting fingering numbers on a
> column. This is what I did:
>
> { c' \finger \markup \center-column {2 3}}
>
> But the distance between numbers is a bit too large. Does exist a better
> way?
>
> Thank you, g.


Multiple fingerings are possible. See:

{ c'-2-3 c'-3-2 }

Or adjust baseline-skip:
{ c' \finger \markup \override #'(baseline-skip . 1.5) \center-column { 2 3 } }

Btw, please add space around curly braces. Otherwise errors may occur. See:
tst = {\override TextScript.color = #red}
{\tst c'-"xy"}

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: fingering notation alternative

2018-05-07 Thread Gianmaria Lari 
On 5 May 2018 at 22:37, Gianmaria Lari  wrote:

>
> On 5 May 2018 at 17:18, Malte Meyn  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am 05.05.2018 um 16:33 schrieb Gianmaria Lari:
>>
>>> This is more a notation question than a lilypond question.
>>>
>>> Does exist a standard fingering notation to indicate that a note can be
>>> played for example with 2 or 3?
>>>
>>
>> I agree with David and Ralph: put them on top of each other or at
>> oppisite sides of the staff. The latter might not always be possible or
>> reasonable, italic numbers can help here. See also
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5074/
>>
>> In some rare cases, I’ve seen both fingerings separated by a horizontal
>> line, especially in piano music, where there are multiple fingers at the
>> same time, f. e.
>>
>> 5 4 5 4 3
>> 1 2 1 2 1
>> -
>> 5 4 3 5 4
>> 3 2 1 3 2
>>
>> for descending thirds.
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> Thank you to all for the suggestions!!
> g.
>


I tried to write alternative fingering putting fingering numbers on a
column. This is what I did:

{ c' \finger \markup \center-column {2 3}}

But the distance between numbers is a bit too large. Does exist a better
way?

Thank you, g.
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Re: fingering notation alternative

2018-05-05 Thread Gianmaria Lari 
On 5 May 2018 at 17:18, Malte Meyn  wrote:

>
>
> Am 05.05.2018 um 16:33 schrieb Gianmaria Lari:
>
>> This is more a notation question than a lilypond question.
>>
>> Does exist a standard fingering notation to indicate that a note can be
>> played for example with 2 or 3?
>>
>
> I agree with David and Ralph: put them on top of each other or at oppisite
> sides of the staff. The latter might not always be possible or reasonable,
> italic numbers can help here. See also https://sourceforge.net/p/test
> lilyissues/issues/5074/
>
> In some rare cases, I’ve seen both fingerings separated by a horizontal
> line, especially in piano music, where there are multiple fingers at the
> same time, f. e.
>
> 5 4 5 4 3
> 1 2 1 2 1
> -
> 5 4 3 5 4
> 3 2 1 3 2
>
> for descending thirds.
>
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Thank you to all for the suggestions!!
g.
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Re: fingering notation alternative

2018-05-05 Thread Malte Meyn 



Am 05.05.2018 um 16:33 schrieb Gianmaria Lari:

This is more a notation question than a lilypond question.

Does exist a standard fingering notation to indicate that a note can be 
played for example with 2 or 3?


I agree with David and Ralph: put them on top of each other or at 
oppisite sides of the staff. The latter might not always be possible or 
reasonable, italic numbers can help here. See also 
https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5074/


In some rare cases, I’ve seen both fingerings separated by a horizontal 
line, especially in piano music, where there are multiple fingers at the 
same time, f. e.


5 4 5 4 3
1 2 1 2 1
-
5 4 3 5 4
3 2 1 3 2

for descending thirds.

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Re: fingering notation alternative

2018-05-05 Thread Ralph Palmer 
On Sat, May 5, 2018, 7:35 AM Gianmaria Lari  wrote:

> This is more a notation question than a lilypond question.
>
> Does exist a standard fingering notation to indicate that a note can be
> played for example with 2 or 3? I normally write
>
> \finger "2(3)"
>
> or
>
> \finger "2/3"
>
>
> but I'm not sure this is correct.
>

I think I've usually seen, for a single note, the "primary", or preferred,
fingering on top, with the second fingering directly below :

2
3

That's what I've seen, especially in exercise and etude books, and what
I've used in transcribing them. I've also seen, for a single note, one
fingering above the staff and another below the staff.

HTH,

Ralph

Ralph Palmer
Brattleboro, VT
USA
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Re: fingering notation alternative

2018-05-05 Thread David Kastrup 
Gianmaria Lari  writes:

> This is more a notation question than a lilypond question.
>
> Does exist a standard fingering notation to indicate that a note can be
> played for example with 2 or 3? I normally write
>
> \finger "2(3)"
>
> or
>
> \finger "2/3"
>
>
> but I'm not sure this is correct.

The usual I know from some violin editions is to write the better
fingering above and the easier fingering (typically avoiding 2nd/4th
position) below, sometimes in a different font (italic?).

-- 
David Kastrup

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fingering notation alternative

2018-05-05 Thread Gianmaria Lari 
This is more a notation question than a lilypond question.

Does exist a standard fingering notation to indicate that a note can be
played for example with 2 or 3? I normally write

\finger "2(3)"

or

\finger "2/3"


but I'm not sure this is correct.

Thank you, g.
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