Re: jump to coda inside repeat with alternative
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 9:16 PM David Wright wrote: > > Sometimes the easiest way of using these repeat constructions is to > copy and paste an example from Notation Reference §1.4 into your > .ly file, and then insert your music in place of the example's. > If you use Frescobaldi as your editor, you can make it a snippet, or several snippets. -- Knute Snortum
Re: jump to coda inside repeat with alternative
On Tue 21 May 2024 at 11:43:10 (+1000), Laurie Savage wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 10:35, Paul Scott wrote:
>
> > Segno repeat structure is like a black box to me. I have been
> > relatively successful with help and trial and error.
> >
> > I would really appreciate some help with this that I need soon:
> >
> > From NR 2.25.16 1.4.1, Segno repeat structure/alla coda, how do I add a
> > repeat with alternative so the coda jump is just before the alternative?
> >
> > Here is the manually written MWE:
> >
> > \version "2.25.16"
> >
> > \fixed c' {
> >c1 \segnoMark \default
> >\repeat volta 2 { d \codaMark \default }
> >\alternative{ e f }
> >e_"D.C. al Coda" \bar "||"
> ><>^"Coda" e
> >\bar "|."
> > }
> >
> I have struggled with this one in the past and gave up in the end. There
> are some tweaks I found on the archived threads but I found it easier to
> enter the segnoMark and codaMark manually. Ditto for the"D.S. al Coda"
> (which is what I think you mean in your example. I often edit big band and
> small combo charts so any simple solution would be wonderful.
Sometimes the easiest way of using these repeat constructions is to
copy and paste an example from Notation Reference §1.4 into your
.ly file, and then insert your music in place of the example's.
If you have a repeat structure nested in another, you can cut and
paste a second example at the appropriate point, and then replace
the music (or placeholder text) in the example with your music again.
However, the example given above doesn't have nested repeats, but
overlapping ones. LP has a mechanism for distinguishing which repeat
an \alternative belongs to if two repeats are nested (it chooses
the innermost). But there's no LP mechanism AFAIK that can unpick
two overlapping repeat structures, so a manual solution is required,
as given.
Cheers,
David.
Re: jump to coda inside repeat with alternative
Close enough for now. I get a bar line after the clef sign.
Thank you,
Paul
On 5/22/24 11:49, Knute Snortum wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 10:50 AM Paul Scott
wrote:
I sometimes use \stopStaff and \startStaff before the coda. Can
anyone tell me how to get a clef sign after a \startStaff?
Would Staff.forceClef = ##t work in your situation? If not, can you
give us a MWE?
%%%
\version "2.24.3"
{
c''4 4 4 4 \stopStaff
s1
\once \set Staff.forceClef = ##t
\startStaff c''4 4 4 4
}
%%%
--
Knute Snortum
Re: jump to coda inside repeat with alternative
On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 10:50 AM Paul Scott wrote:
> I sometimes use \stopStaff and \startStaff before the coda. Can anyone
> tell me how to get a clef sign after a \startStaff?
>
Would Staff.forceClef = ##t work in your situation? If not, can you give
us a MWE?
%%%
\version "2.24.3"
{
c''4 4 4 4 \stopStaff
s1
\once \set Staff.forceClef = ##t
\startStaff c''4 4 4 4
}
%%%
--
Knute Snortum
Re: jump to coda inside repeat with alternative
On 5/20/24 18:43, Laurie Savage wrote:
I have struggled with this one in the past and gave up in the end.
There are some tweaks I found on the archived threads but I found it
easier to enter the segnoMark and codaMark manually. Ditto for
the"D.S. al Coda" (which is what I think you mean in your example. I
often edit big band and small combo charts so any simple solution
would be wonderful.
Thank you, Laurie.
That's what I've done for years until segno repeat appeared.
I also often edit big band, concert band and orchestra charts, often
just to make my parts easier to read,
I sometimes use \stopStaff and \startStaff before the coda. Can anyone
tell me how to get a clef sign after a \startStaff?
TIA,
Paul
Laurie
On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 10:35, Paul Scott wrote:
Segno repeat structure is like a black box to me. I have been
relatively successful with help and trial and error.
I would really appreciate some help with this that I need soon:
From NR 2.25.16 1.4.1, Segno repeat structure/alla coda, how do I
add a
repeat with alternative so the coda jump is just before the
alternative?
Here is the manually written MWE:
\version "2.25.16"
\fixed c' {
c1 \segnoMark \default
\repeat volta 2 { d \codaMark \default }
\alternative{ e f }
e_"D.C. al Coda" \bar "||"
<>^"Coda" e
\bar "|."
}
TIA,
Paul
Re: jump to coda inside repeat with alternative
I have struggled with this one in the past and gave up in the end. There
are some tweaks I found on the archived threads but I found it easier to
enter the segnoMark and codaMark manually. Ditto for the"D.S. al Coda"
(which is what I think you mean in your example. I often edit big band and
small combo charts so any simple solution would be wonderful.
Laurie
On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 10:35, Paul Scott wrote:
> Segno repeat structure is like a black box to me. I have been
> relatively successful with help and trial and error.
>
> I would really appreciate some help with this that I need soon:
>
> From NR 2.25.16 1.4.1, Segno repeat structure/alla coda, how do I add a
> repeat with alternative so the coda jump is just before the alternative?
>
> Here is the manually written MWE:
>
> \version "2.25.16"
>
> \fixed c' {
>c1 \segnoMark \default
>\repeat volta 2 { d \codaMark \default }
>\alternative{ e f }
>e_"D.C. al Coda" \bar "||"
><>^"Coda" e
>\bar "|."
> }
>
> TIA,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
jump to coda inside repeat with alternative
Segno repeat structure is like a black box to me. I have been
relatively successful with help and trial and error.
I would really appreciate some help with this that I need soon:
From NR 2.25.16 1.4.1, Segno repeat structure/alla coda, how do I add a
repeat with alternative so the coda jump is just before the alternative?
Here is the manually written MWE:
\version "2.25.16"
\fixed c' {
c1 \segnoMark \default
\repeat volta 2 { d \codaMark \default }
\alternative{ e f }
e_"D.C. al Coda" \bar "||"
<>^"Coda" e
\bar "|."
}
TIA,
Paul
jump to coda inside repeat with alternative
From NR 2.25.16 1.4.1, Segno repeat structure/alla coda, how do I add a
repeat with alternative so the coda jump is just before the alternative?
Here is the manually written MWE:
\version "2.25.16"
\fixed c' {
c1 \segnoMark \default
\repeat volta 2 { d \codaMark \default }
\alternative{ e f }
e_"D.C. al Coda" \bar "||"
<>^"Coda" e
\bar "|."
}
TIA,
Paul
Re: dal 턋 al 턌 et poi la Coda for the 2nd ending with segno- and coda-marks in the middle of a volta repeat with alternative endings
Le vendredi 03 novembre 2023 à 21:48 +0100, Hans Aikema a écrit : > Looking at the various documentation snippets on repeats it looks like there > is no way to use the \repeat instruction to encode what I’m trying to > transcribe into Lilypond. > > Nevertheless want to check with the collective knowledge on this list to > prevent that I’m somehow overlooking the obvious solution to my problem. You are correct. There is no built-in way to encode this. If you want correct MIDI output, the only way (unfortunately) is to make separate \score blocks for \layout and \midi, assembling the pieces as needed. Best, Jean signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
dal 턋 al 턌 et poi la Coda for the 2nd ending with segno- and coda-marks in the middle of a volta repeat with alternative endings
Looking at the various documentation snippets on repeats it looks like there is
no way to use the \repeat instruction to encode what I’m trying to transcribe
into Lilypond.
Nevertheless want to check with the collective knowledge on this list to
prevent that I’m somehow overlooking the obvious solution to my problem.
A minimal example of what I’m trying to achieve that renders fine for the
printed sheet, but does not have the "from segno mark to codamark and then the
coda” semantics embedded so that unfolding repeats would omit the segno-to-coda
part:
\version “2.24.0”
{
b1
\repeat volta 2 {
c’ \segnoMark 1
d'
e' \codaMark 1
\alternative {
\volta 1 {
f'
}
\volta 2 {
f' g' \break % from segno mark to coda mark and then the coda here
}
}
}
\section \sectionLabel "Coda”
a’
}
Visually working for a printed sheet, but as the ‘from segno mark to coda mark’
is not actually embedded in code it will not properly unfold.
What I’m trying to encode semantically is:
So the expected repeat-unfolded rendering I’m looking to achieve (without
manually repeating the segnoMark to codaMark phrase before the actual coda )
would be
b (before the repeat)
c’ d’ e’ f’ (first repeat)
c’ d’ e’ f’ g’ (second repeat)
d’ e’ a’ (from segnoMark to codaMark followed by the coda)
Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
Le 20/09/2022 à 04:27, David Wright a écrit :
On Mon 19 Sep 2022 at 17:45:24 (-0700), Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
What is "\rightjust"? Is it a variable (macro) that you have
defined? I can't find that command in the NR. How does that differ
from right-align, which I tried and it didn't work for me.
Oops, I'm sorry. I forgot that I'm relying on my main library for
its definition:
rightjust = {
\override Score.RehearsalMark.self-alignment-X = #right
\override Score.RehearsalMark.break-visibility = #begin-of-line-invisible
}
Of course, now I shall read Jean's contribution to see whether
I'm up-to-date. My libraries can otherwise fall behind the latest
ways of doing things.
This is the latest way of doing it as of LilyPond 2.23.13. However,
with a patch that has been merged just last night, the next version
will have a \textEndMark command making \textEndMark somewhat
similar to \rightjust \mark with your definition, but
creating a TextMark grob and not a RehearsalMark grob. The counterpart
is \textMark , which is sort of an equivalent of
\tweak self-alignment-X #LEFT \mark . We're adding these
to disentangle arbitrary text marks from "rehearsal" marks
(and there are some more differences: there can be several
text marks at the same moment, and the default font size is not
the same).
Jean
Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
On Mon 19 Sep 2022 at 17:45:24 (-0700), Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> What is "\rightjust"? Is it a variable (macro) that you have
> defined? I can't find that command in the NR. How does that differ
> from right-align, which I tried and it didn't work for me.
Oops, I'm sorry. I forgot that I'm relying on my main library for
its definition:
rightjust = {
\override Score.RehearsalMark.self-alignment-X = #right
\override Score.RehearsalMark.break-visibility = #begin-of-line-invisible
}
Of course, now I shall read Jean's contribution to see whether
I'm up-to-date. My libraries can otherwise fall behind the latest
ways of doing things.
Cheers,
David.
Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
HI Jean;
Now it finally starts to make sense!
Thanks,
Ken
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 6:30 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote:
>
> Le 20/09/2022 à 02:45, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit :
> > HI David;
> >
> >Thank you.
> >
> >What is "\rightjust"? Is it a variable (macro) that you have
> > defined? I can't find that command in the NR.
>
>
>
> I suppose David defined it as something like
>
> rightjust = \tweak self-alignment-X #RIGHT \etc
>
>
> The alignment of a mark is defined by self-alignment-X. #RIGHT
> specifies to align on the right side.
>
>
> > How does that differ
> > from right-align, which I tried and it didn't work for me.
>
>
>
> Trying to use alignment markup commands like \left-align, \center-align,
> \right-align, \general-align, \halign, etc. for aligning marks, text
> scripts or other textual objects is a mistake I have seen quite a number
> of people doing. I wonder if the manual should be explicitly warning against
> it, but it's difficult to know in which section to put it, since it can
> occur in many different contexts.
>
> The problem with `\mark \markup \right-align Fine` is that \right-align
> acts on the text that \mark prints as a RehearsalMark grob, but the
> RehearsalMark
> grob also realigns itself. For simplicity, let's assume rehearsal marks are
> always centered by default (it's more complex but this is illustrative).
> When you write "Fine", this makes a markup, and when this markup is
> interpreted,
> it has a certain width, say, '(0 . 4), which means from point 0 horizontally
> to point 4 (in a certain unit defined by LilyPond). To ensure the centering,
> the RehearsalMark grob will move itself by 2 units on the left so that
> this extent becomes '(-2 . 2). By using \right-align, you translate the
> Fine text in the initial step so its extent is '(-4 . 0), but the centering
> step still happens, and recenters at '(-2 . 2).
>
> Here is a little visualization. The red X indicates the X coordinate 0
> in the Fine markup. As you can see, \right-align does move the Fine text
> relative to this X, but the X also gets moved relative to the bar line,
> which cancels the effect.
>
>
> {
>c'1
>\mark \markup \combine
> Fine % also try \right-align Fine
> \with-outline \stencil #empty-stencil \fontsize #-5 \with-color
> "red" ×
> }
>
>
> So, instead of \right-align, you need to tweak self-alignment-X, which
> modifies the realignment step to suit your desired alignment. I hope
> that was clear.
>
>
Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
Le 20/09/2022 à 02:45, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit :
HI David;
Thank you.
What is "\rightjust"? Is it a variable (macro) that you have
defined? I can't find that command in the NR.
I suppose David defined it as something like
rightjust = \tweak self-alignment-X #RIGHT \etc
The alignment of a mark is defined by self-alignment-X. #RIGHT
specifies to align on the right side.
How does that differ
from right-align, which I tried and it didn't work for me.
Trying to use alignment markup commands like \left-align, \center-align,
\right-align, \general-align, \halign, etc. for aligning marks, text
scripts or other textual objects is a mistake I have seen quite a number
of people doing. I wonder if the manual should be explicitly warning against
it, but it's difficult to know in which section to put it, since it can
occur in many different contexts.
The problem with `\mark \markup \right-align Fine` is that \right-align
acts on the text that \mark prints as a RehearsalMark grob, but the
RehearsalMark
grob also realigns itself. For simplicity, let's assume rehearsal marks are
always centered by default (it's more complex but this is illustrative).
When you write "Fine", this makes a markup, and when this markup is
interpreted,
it has a certain width, say, '(0 . 4), which means from point 0 horizontally
to point 4 (in a certain unit defined by LilyPond). To ensure the centering,
the RehearsalMark grob will move itself by 2 units on the left so that
this extent becomes '(-2 . 2). By using \right-align, you translate the
Fine text in the initial step so its extent is '(-4 . 0), but the centering
step still happens, and recenters at '(-2 . 2).
Here is a little visualization. The red X indicates the X coordinate 0
in the Fine markup. As you can see, \right-align does move the Fine text
relative to this X, but the X also gets moved relative to the bar line,
which cancels the effect.
{
c'1
\mark \markup \combine
Fine % also try \right-align Fine
\with-outline \stencil #empty-stencil \fontsize #-5 \with-color
"red" ×
}
So, instead of \right-align, you need to tweak self-alignment-X, which
modifies the realignment step to suit your desired alignment. I hope
that was clear.
Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
HI David;
Thank you.
What is "\rightjust"? Is it a variable (macro) that you have
defined? I can't find that command in the NR. How does that differ
from right-align, which I tried and it didn't work for me.
Thanks,
Ken
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 5:23 PM David Wright wrote:
>
> On Mon 19 Sep 2022 at 16:28:35 (-0700), Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
>
> > I have implemented the "Fine" and "D.C. al Fine" as rehearsal mark
> > markups.
> >
> > Now I have a problem where the "D.C. al Fine" consumes much more
> > space than the bar containing the dotted-half note, it even falls off
> > the right side of the page.
> >
> > How does one expand the bar enough to contain the markup instead of
> > modifying the markup to fit the bar?
>
> Right justification is usual:
>
> global = {
> \key c \major
> \time 4/4
> s1 * 4
> \rightjust \mark \markup{ \smallCaps "Fine"}
> \bar "|."
> s1 * 10
> \bar "||"
> s1 * 10
> \bar "||"
> s1 * 9
> \bar "||"
> \rightjust \mark \markup{ "D.C. al Fine"}
> }
>
> Cheers,
> David.
Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
On Mon 19 Sep 2022 at 16:28:35 (-0700), Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> I have implemented the "Fine" and "D.C. al Fine" as rehearsal mark markups.
>
> Now I have a problem where the "D.C. al Fine" consumes much more
> space than the bar containing the dotted-half note, it even falls off
> the right side of the page.
>
> How does one expand the bar enough to contain the markup instead of
> modifying the markup to fit the bar?
Right justification is usual:
global = {
\key c \major
\time 4/4
s1 * 4
\rightjust \mark \markup{ \smallCaps "Fine"}
\bar "|."
s1 * 10
\bar "||"
s1 * 10
\bar "||"
s1 * 9
\bar "||"
\rightjust \mark \markup{ "D.C. al Fine"}
}
Cheers,
David.
Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
HI Valentin;
Thank you for elaboration.
I have implemented the "Fine" and "D.C. al Fine" as rehearsal mark markups.
Now I have a problem where the "D.C. al Fine" consumes much more
space than the bar containing the dotted-half note, it even falls off
the right side of the page.
How does one expand the bar enough to contain the markup instead of
modifying the markup to fit the bar?
Thanks,
Ken
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM Valentin Petzel wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> Lilypond has so called engravers at various levels that handle placement of
> stuff. If you do ^"some text" a so called TextScript event is created, which
> is
> handled by an engraver at Staff level. The voltas on the other hand are
> created
> by an engraver at Score level. Other events that are handled on score level
> are marks, so prior to Lilypond 23.6 (? I think this is where the new repeat
> segno stuff came) I’d use a RehearsalMark for these kinds of things (this also
> allows us to align the text to the end of the measure instead of a note).
>
> The new repeat segno stuff does create Marks and Stuff on Score level.
>
> Cheers,
> Valentin
>
> Am Sonntag, 18. September 2022, 21:59:04 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> > Hi Valentin;
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Regarding point #1, I don't understand what (how to) to change it so
> > that it is Score level. Would I place the same command inside the
> > \layout {} block inside the \score section? Do I invoke it in the
> > same way?
> >
> > Regarding point #2, I'm still trying to understand the new repeat
> > features, so I'm putting that off for now.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 11:04 AM Valentin Petzel wrote:
> > > Hi Ken,
> > >
> > > note that it would be reasonable to create these Marks on a Score level,
> > > not on a Staff level.
> > >
> > > If you are using a sufficiently recent development version you can also
> > > make use of the \repeat segno function, somewhat like this:
> > >
> > > \version "2.23.12"
> > >
> > > \layout {
> > >
> > > \context {
> > >
> > > \Score
> > > \override JumpScript.direction = #UP
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > \new PianoStaff <<
> > >
> > > \new Staff s1*6
> > > \new Staff {
> > >
> > > \repeat segno 2 {
> > >
> > > \repeat volta 2 {
> > >
> > > c'4 d' e' f'
> > > \alternative {
> > >
> > > { g'2 f' } { g'1 \fine }
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > }
> > > \repeat volta 2 {
> > >
> > > c'4 d' e' f'
> > > \alternative {
> > >
> > > { g'2 f' } { g'1 }
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > (note how although the marks are defined in the lower Staff they are
> > > displayed above the upper one, since they are created on a Score level).
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Valentin
> > >
> > > Am Sonntag, 18. September 2022, 19:00:23 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> > > > Hi Knute;
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for reminding me to share :-)
> > > >
> > > > I did not find a precise search phrase that I should have used but
> > > >
> > > > "Controlling the vertical ordering of scripts" in the Notation
> > > > Reference comes close; reading the entire section helped.
> > > >
> > > > What I saw there reminded me of what I had been shown before, so I
> > > >
> > > > looked in my previous engravings and I found what I needed.
> > > >
> > > > Here is my markup command that I had used previously but could not
> > > >
> > > > remember how to search for it:
> > > >
> > > > fine = -\tweak outside-staff-priority #605 ^\markup { \fontsize #3
> > > > "Fine" }
> > > >
> > > > So I was able to solve my problem, but I still don't have a precise
> > > >
> > > > search phrase that results in information that more closely matches
> > > > that which I had been shown to me on this mailing list previously.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 6:29 AM Knute Snortum
> wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 9:36 PM Kenneth Wolcott
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > HI;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I found what I was looking for; sorry to waste your time...
> > > > >
> > > > > Why not share what you found so others can learn from it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Knute Snortum
>
Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
Hi Ken,
Lilypond has so called engravers at various levels that handle placement of
stuff. If you do ^"some text" a so called TextScript event is created, which is
handled by an engraver at Staff level. The voltas on the other hand are created
by an engraver at Score level. Other events that are handled on score level
are marks, so prior to Lilypond 23.6 (? I think this is where the new repeat
segno stuff came) I’d use a RehearsalMark for these kinds of things (this also
allows us to align the text to the end of the measure instead of a note).
The new repeat segno stuff does create Marks and Stuff on Score level.
Cheers,
Valentin
Am Sonntag, 18. September 2022, 21:59:04 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> Hi Valentin;
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regarding point #1, I don't understand what (how to) to change it so
> that it is Score level. Would I place the same command inside the
> \layout {} block inside the \score section? Do I invoke it in the
> same way?
>
> Regarding point #2, I'm still trying to understand the new repeat
> features, so I'm putting that off for now.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 11:04 AM Valentin Petzel wrote:
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > note that it would be reasonable to create these Marks on a Score level,
> > not on a Staff level.
> >
> > If you are using a sufficiently recent development version you can also
> > make use of the \repeat segno function, somewhat like this:
> >
> > \version "2.23.12"
> >
> > \layout {
> >
> > \context {
> >
> > \Score
> > \override JumpScript.direction = #UP
> >
> > }
> >
> > }
> >
> > \new PianoStaff <<
> >
> > \new Staff s1*6
> > \new Staff {
> >
> > \repeat segno 2 {
> >
> > \repeat volta 2 {
> >
> > c'4 d' e' f'
> > \alternative {
> >
> > { g'2 f' } { g'1 \fine }
> >
> > }
> >
> > }
> > \repeat volta 2 {
> >
> > c'4 d' e' f'
> > \alternative {
> >
> > { g'2 f' } { g'1 }
> >
> > }
> >
> > }
> >
> > }
> >
> > }
> >
> > (note how although the marks are defined in the lower Staff they are
> > displayed above the upper one, since they are created on a Score level).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Valentin
> >
> > Am Sonntag, 18. September 2022, 19:00:23 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> > > Hi Knute;
> > >
> > > Thank you for reminding me to share :-)
> > >
> > > I did not find a precise search phrase that I should have used but
> > >
> > > "Controlling the vertical ordering of scripts" in the Notation
> > > Reference comes close; reading the entire section helped.
> > >
> > > What I saw there reminded me of what I had been shown before, so I
> > >
> > > looked in my previous engravings and I found what I needed.
> > >
> > > Here is my markup command that I had used previously but could not
> > >
> > > remember how to search for it:
> > >
> > > fine = -\tweak outside-staff-priority #605 ^\markup { \fontsize #3
> > > "Fine" }
> > >
> > > So I was able to solve my problem, but I still don't have a precise
> > >
> > > search phrase that results in information that more closely matches
> > > that which I had been shown to me on this mailing list previously.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 6:29 AM Knute Snortum
wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 9:36 PM Kenneth Wolcott
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > HI;
> > > > >
> > > > > I found what I was looking for; sorry to waste your time...
> > > >
> > > > Why not share what you found so others can learn from it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Knute Snortum
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Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
Hi Valentin;
Thank you.
Regarding point #1, I don't understand what (how to) to change it so
that it is Score level. Would I place the same command inside the
\layout {} block inside the \score section? Do I invoke it in the
same way?
Regarding point #2, I'm still trying to understand the new repeat
features, so I'm putting that off for now.
Thanks,
Ken
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 11:04 AM Valentin Petzel wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> note that it would be reasonable to create these Marks on a Score level, not
> on a Staff level.
>
> If you are using a sufficiently recent development version you can also make
> use
> of the \repeat segno function, somewhat like this:
>
> \version "2.23.12"
>
> \layout {
> \context {
> \Score
> \override JumpScript.direction = #UP
> }
> }
>
> \new PianoStaff <<
> \new Staff s1*6
> \new Staff {
> \repeat segno 2 {
> \repeat volta 2 {
> c'4 d' e' f'
> \alternative {
> { g'2 f' } { g'1 \fine }
> }
> }
> \repeat volta 2 {
> c'4 d' e' f'
> \alternative {
> { g'2 f' } { g'1 }
> }
> }
> }
> }
> >>
>
> (note how although the marks are defined in the lower Staff they are displayed
> above the upper one, since they are created on a Score level).
>
> Cheers,
> Valentin
>
> Am Sonntag, 18. September 2022, 19:00:23 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> > Hi Knute;
> >
> > Thank you for reminding me to share :-)
> >
> > I did not find a precise search phrase that I should have used but
> > "Controlling the vertical ordering of scripts" in the Notation
> > Reference comes close; reading the entire section helped.
> >
> > What I saw there reminded me of what I had been shown before, so I
> > looked in my previous engravings and I found what I needed.
> >
> > Here is my markup command that I had used previously but could not
> > remember how to search for it:
> >
> > fine = -\tweak outside-staff-priority #605 ^\markup { \fontsize #3 "Fine" }
> >
> > So I was able to solve my problem, but I still don't have a precise
> > search phrase that results in information that more closely matches
> > that which I had been shown to me on this mailing list previously.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 6:29 AM Knute Snortum wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 9:36 PM Kenneth Wolcott
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > HI;
> > > >
> > > > I found what I was looking for; sorry to waste your time...
> > >
> > > Why not share what you found so others can learn from it?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Knute Snortum
>
Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
Hi Ken,
note that it would be reasonable to create these Marks on a Score level, not
on a Staff level.
If you are using a sufficiently recent development version you can also make
use
of the \repeat segno function, somewhat like this:
\version "2.23.12"
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override JumpScript.direction = #UP
}
}
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff s1*6
\new Staff {
\repeat segno 2 {
\repeat volta 2 {
c'4 d' e' f'
\alternative {
{ g'2 f' } { g'1 \fine }
}
}
\repeat volta 2 {
c'4 d' e' f'
\alternative {
{ g'2 f' } { g'1 }
}
}
}
}
>>
(note how although the marks are defined in the lower Staff they are displayed
above the upper one, since they are created on a Score level).
Cheers,
Valentin
Am Sonntag, 18. September 2022, 19:00:23 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> Hi Knute;
>
> Thank you for reminding me to share :-)
>
> I did not find a precise search phrase that I should have used but
> "Controlling the vertical ordering of scripts" in the Notation
> Reference comes close; reading the entire section helped.
>
> What I saw there reminded me of what I had been shown before, so I
> looked in my previous engravings and I found what I needed.
>
> Here is my markup command that I had used previously but could not
> remember how to search for it:
>
> fine = -\tweak outside-staff-priority #605 ^\markup { \fontsize #3 "Fine" }
>
> So I was able to solve my problem, but I still don't have a precise
> search phrase that results in information that more closely matches
> that which I had been shown to me on this mailing list previously.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 6:29 AM Knute Snortum wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 9:36 PM Kenneth Wolcott
> >
> > wrote:
> > > HI;
> > >
> > > I found what I was looking for; sorry to waste your time...
> >
> > Why not share what you found so others can learn from it?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Knute Snortum
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Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
Hi Knute;
Thank you for reminding me to share :-)
I did not find a precise search phrase that I should have used but
"Controlling the vertical ordering of scripts" in the Notation
Reference comes close; reading the entire section helped.
What I saw there reminded me of what I had been shown before, so I
looked in my previous engravings and I found what I needed.
Here is my markup command that I had used previously but could not
remember how to search for it:
fine = -\tweak outside-staff-priority #605 ^\markup { \fontsize #3 "Fine" }
So I was able to solve my problem, but I still don't have a precise
search phrase that results in information that more closely matches
that which I had been shown to me on this mailing list previously.
Thanks,
Ken
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 6:29 AM Knute Snortum wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 9:36 PM Kenneth Wolcott
> wrote:
> >
> > HI;
> >
> > I found what I was looking for; sorry to waste your time...
>
> Why not share what you found so others can learn from it?
>
>
> --
> Knute Snortum
Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 9:36 PM Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > HI; > > I found what I was looking for; sorry to waste your time... Why not share what you found so others can learn from it? -- Knute Snortum
Re: Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative brackets, how?
HI; I found what I was looking for; sorry to waste your time... Ken On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 9:06 PM Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > > Hi; > > Raise the "Fine" and "D.C. Fine" above the repeat volta alternative > brackets, how? > > Please give me good search words so that I can find how to do this > in the Lilypond documentation. > > Please see attached files. > > Thanks, > Ken Wolcott
Re: repeat in alternative
On 2019-11-15 8:24 am, Aaron Hill wrote:
On 2019-11-15 8:02 am, Sandro Santilli wrote:
Is there a way to obtain what I'm finding in this paper sheet ?
http://strk.kbt.io/tmp/repeat-in-alternative.png
It's basically a repating section starting within an alternative
section...
Two options here:
Nope, I tell a lie. Here's a third:
{
\time 3/4
\repeat volta 2 { a'4 b'2 }
\alternative {
{ g'2 r4 }
{ \repeat volta 2 { c''2. b'8 a' g'2 } }
}
g'2. \bar "|."
}
This one has the volta bracket extending further.
-- Aaron Hill
Re: repeat in alternative
Hello Sandro, > On 2019-11-15 8:02 am, Sandro Santilli wrote: >> Is there a way to obtain what I'm finding in this paper sheet ? >> http://strk.kbt.io/tmp/repeat-in-alternative.png >> It's basically a repating section starting within an alternative >> section… It’s in fact a second alternative (second volta) in a single repeat. JM
Re: repeat in alternative
On 2019-11-15 8:02 am, Sandro Santilli wrote:
Is there a way to obtain what I'm finding in this paper sheet ?
http://strk.kbt.io/tmp/repeat-in-alternative.png
It's basically a repating section starting within an alternative
section...
Two options here:
\version "2.19.83"
{
\time 3/4
\repeat volta 2 { a'4 b'2 }
\alternative {
{ g'2 r4 \bar ":|.|:" }
{ c''2. }
}
{ b'8 a' g'2 \bar ":|." f'2. \bar "|." }
}
{
\time 3/4
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'(start-repeat)
a'4 b'2
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
g'2 r4
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) end-repeat start-repeat
(volta "2."))
c''2.
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
b'8 a' g'2
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'(end-repeat)
f'2. \bar "|."
}
Note that using repeatCommands handles the bar line types for you,
although it opts for ":..:" as the double-sided repeat.
-- Aaron Hill
repeat in alternative
Is there a way to obtain what I'm finding in this paper sheet ? http://strk.kbt.io/tmp/repeat-in-alternative.png It's basically a repating section starting within an alternative section... --strk;
Repeat with Alternative on First Time
Dear Lilypond Experts,
this is my first time posting to this list. I am trying my hand at
engraving a song with a perhaps unusual, but very simple repeat pattern
and I couldn't find out how to come to the correct result from the manuel.
The melody goes like this:
It should be set like:
[1. ] [2.-3. second-third-time>]
Right now, I do:
\repeat volta 3 {} \alternative {{time>} {}}
But, this gives me "1.-2." and "3." instead of "1." and "2.-3." for the
alternative endings. This looks like it ought to be easy to correct, but
I can't figure it out.
How can it be done?
Also, \repeat itself is actually wrong, because the verse is not
repeated before the chorus. Is there any way to use \alternative
without \repeat? A \repeat over the entire song would be acceptable, but
then again I can't use \alternative in the middle of
\repeat, but only at the end.
Thank you
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Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time
On Wed 25 Nov 2015 at 13:57:40 (+0100), Michael Hartl wrote:
> Dear Lilypond Experts,
Not me, then.
> this is my first time posting to this list. I am trying my hand at
> engraving a song with a perhaps unusual, but very simple repeat
> pattern
> and I couldn't find out how to come to the correct result from the manuel.
>
> The melody goes like this:
>
>
>
>
>
> It should be set like:
>
> [1. ] [2.-3. ending second-third-time>]
>
> Right now, I do:
> \repeat volta 3 {} \alternative {{ first time>} {}}
>
> But, this gives me "1.-2." and "3." instead of "1." and "2.-3." for
> the alternative endings. This looks like it ought to be easy to
> correct, but I can't figure it out.
>
> How can it be done?
You could look at
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-10/msg00404.html
for hints. You can probably ignore the lines that are concerned with
placing the volta brackets mid-bar which is ill-advised (but was
part of that challenge).
> Also, \repeat itself is actually wrong, because the verse is not
> repeated before the chorus. Is there any way to use \alternative
> without \repeat? A \repeat over the entire song would be acceptable,
> but then again I can't use \alternative in the middle of
> \repeat, but only at the end.
Because it doesn't fit the normal repeat structure, you lose the
ability to unfold the repeat automatically; eg in an associated
midi file, the alternatives will just be played consecutively.
Cheers,
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Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time
Hi Mike,
this is actually covered in the Notation Reference, more precisely,
right there:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats#manual-repeat-marks
Best,
Robert
Am 25/11/15 um 13:57 schrieb Michael Hartl:
Dear Lilypond Experts,
this is my first time posting to this list. I am trying my hand at
engraving a song with a perhaps unusual, but very simple repeat pattern
and I couldn't find out how to come to the correct result from the manuel.
The melody goes like this:
It should be set like:
[1. ] [2.-3. ]
Right now, I do:
\repeat volta 3 {} \alternative {{} {}}
But, this gives me "1.-2." and "3." instead of "1." and "2.-3." for the
alternative endings. This looks like it ought to be easy to correct, but
I can't figure it out.
How can it be done?
Also, \repeat itself is actually wrong, because the verse is not
repeated before the chorus. Is there any way to use \alternative
without \repeat? A \repeat over the entire song would be acceptable, but
then again I can't use \alternative in the middle of
\repeat, but only at the end.
Thank you
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Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time
Actually, what seems to work (although I'm not positive that this is all
correct, so check if this causes problems down the road, i.e. in th
chorus part) is this:
\repeat volta 2 {
c4 d e f
}
\alternative{
{
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "1.")
begin-repeat)
g a b c
}
{
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "2.-3.") end-repeat)
g f e d
}
}
Best, Robert
Am 25/11/15 um 14:41 schrieb Robert Schmaus:
Hi Mike,
this is actually covered in the Notation Reference, more precisely,
right there:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats#manual-repeat-marks
Best,
Robert
Am 25/11/15 um 13:57 schrieb Michael Hartl:
Dear Lilypond Experts,
this is my first time posting to this list. I am trying my hand at
engraving a song with a perhaps unusual, but very simple repeat pattern
and I couldn't find out how to come to the correct result from the
manuel.
The melody goes like this:
It should be set like:
[1. ] [2.-3. ]
Right now, I do:
\repeat volta 3 {} \alternative {{} {}}
But, this gives me "1.-2." and "3." instead of "1." and "2.-3." for the
alternative endings. This looks like it ought to be easy to correct, but
I can't figure it out.
How can it be done?
Also, \repeat itself is actually wrong, because the verse is not
repeated before the chorus. Is there any way to use \alternative
without \repeat? A \repeat over the entire song would be acceptable, but
then again I can't use \alternative in the middle of
\repeat, but only at the end.
Thank you
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Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time
On Wed 25 Nov 2015 at 14:41:57 (+0100), Robert Schmaus wrote: > Hi Mike, > > this is actually covered in the Notation Reference, more precisely, > right there: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats#manual-repeat-marks I disagree. What's missing is the notation to cover this bit of the OP's structure: [1. <1st alt> ] [2.-3. <2nd/3rd alts>] ie indicating where the chorus starts. Unfortunately the solution is a bit of a hack. IIRC the most flexible way of ameliorating the hack is: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-10/msg00460.html Cheers, David. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time
Hi Mike,
See: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=915
Cheers,
~Pierre
2015-11-25 15:25 GMT+01:00 Michael Hartl <mikehart...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Robert,
>
> thank you for pointing me to this bit of the manual. Somehow I overlooked
> it even though I scanned
> the page at least twice.
>
> I did it like this now and the result is satisfactory (apart from midi):
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
> ...
> \bar "||"
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "2.-3."))
> ...
> \bar "||"
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
> \break
> ...chorus...
>
> Yes, it's a bit hackish, but it looks alright.
>
> Thanks to all the others for the suggestions, too!
>
> Best Wishes
> Mike
>
>
> On 2015-11-25 14:41, Robert Schmaus wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> this is actually covered in the Notation Reference, more precisely, right
>> there:
>>
>>
>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats#manual-repeat-marks
>>
>> Best,
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 25/11/15 um 13:57 schrieb Michael Hartl:
>>
>>> Dear Lilypond Experts,
>>>
>>> this is my first time posting to this list. I am trying my hand at
>>> engraving a song with a perhaps unusual, but very simple repeat pattern
>>> and I couldn't find out how to come to the correct result from the
>>> manuel.
>>>
>>> The melody goes like this:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It should be set like:
>>>
>>> [1. ] [2.-3. >> second-third-time>]
>>>
>>> Right now, I do:
>>> \repeat volta 3 {} \alternative {{>> time>} {}}
>>>
>>> But, this gives me "1.-2." and "3." instead of "1." and "2.-3." for the
>>> alternative endings. This looks like it ought to be easy to correct, but
>>> I can't figure it out.
>>>
>>> How can it be done?
>>>
>>> Also, \repeat itself is actually wrong, because the verse is not
>>> repeated before the chorus. Is there any way to use \alternative
>>> without \repeat? A \repeat over the entire song would be acceptable, but
>>> then again I can't use \alternative in the middle of
>>> \repeat, but only at the end.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Mike
>>>
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Re: Repeat with Alternative on First Time
Hi Robert,
thank you for pointing me to this bit of the manual. Somehow I
overlooked it even though I scanned
the page at least twice.
I did it like this now and the result is satisfactory (apart from midi):
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
...
\bar "||"
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "2.-3."))
...
\bar "||"
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
\break
...chorus...
Yes, it's a bit hackish, but it looks alright.
Thanks to all the others for the suggestions, too!
Best Wishes
Mike
On 2015-11-25 14:41, Robert Schmaus wrote:
Hi Mike,
this is actually covered in the Notation Reference, more precisely,
right there:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats#manual-repeat-marks
Best,
Robert
Am 25/11/15 um 13:57 schrieb Michael Hartl:
Dear Lilypond Experts,
this is my first time posting to this list. I am trying my hand at
engraving a song with a perhaps unusual, but very simple repeat pattern
and I couldn't find out how to come to the correct result from the
manuel.
The melody goes like this:
It should be set like:
[1. ] [2.-3. ]
Right now, I do:
\repeat volta 3 {} \alternative {{} {}}
But, this gives me "1.-2." and "3." instead of "1." and "2.-3." for the
alternative endings. This looks like it ought to be easy to correct, but
I can't figure it out.
How can it be done?
Also, \repeat itself is actually wrong, because the verse is not
repeated before the chorus. Is there any way to use \alternative
without \repeat? A \repeat over the entire song would be acceptable, but
then again I can't use \alternative in the middle of
\repeat, but only at the end.
Thank you
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Repeat volta/alternative with voices
Hi,
I am not an experienced user of lilypond, but this seems to me
as bug in parser, or, I do not understand something...
==
\version 2.15.43
Upper = \relative c' {
e2 g |
\repeat volta 2 {
c2 e |
}
\alternative {
{ g, b r } |
{ g b g } |
}
}
Lower = \relative c {
c'2 g |
\repeat volta 2 {
c2 e |
}
\alternative {
{ g, f } |
{ g g } |
}
\bar |.
}
\score {
\new Staff { \Upper \\ \Lower }
\layout { }
}
===
... produces 2 warnings:
warning: More alternatives than repeats. Junking excess alternatives
and output: test_repeat_2_voices.png.
If I change all \repeat volta 2 into \repeat volta 3,
lilypond produces these same 2 warnings, but output is as expected:
test_repeat_3_voices.png.
This happens in Lilypond ver. 2.12 and 2.14 as well.
Thanks,
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Re: Repeat volta/alternative with voices
At 13:20 on 20 Aug 2012, Zbyszek Loska wrote:
I am not an experienced user of lilypond, but this seems to me
as bug in parser, or, I do not understand something...
Move your bar checks inside the parentheses, viz:
==
\version 2.15.43
Upper = \relative c' {
e2 g |
\repeat volta 2 {
c2 e |
}
\alternative {
{ g, b r | }
{ g b g | }
}
}
Lower = \relative c {
c'2 g |
\repeat volta 2 {
c2 e |
}
\alternative {
{ g, f | }
{ g g | }
}
\bar |.
}
\score {
\new Staff { \Upper \\ \Lower }
\layout { }
}
===
and all will be well.
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Re: Repeat volta/alternative with voices
On 08/20/2012 01:27 PM, Mark Knoop wrote:
Move your bar checks inside the parentheses, viz:
==
\version 2.15.43
Upper = \relative c' {
e2 g |
\repeat volta 2 {
c2 e |
}
\alternative {
{ g, b r | }
{ g b g | }
}
}
Lower = \relative c {
c'2 g |
\repeat volta 2 {
c2 e |
}
\alternative {
{ g, f | }
{ g g | }
}
\bar |.
}
\score {
\new Staff { \Upper \\ \Lower }
\layout { }
}
===
and all will be well.
Indeed. Thanks a lot.
Zbyszek.
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Re: Repeat volta/alternative with voices
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Zbyszek Loska zb...@camk.edu.pl wrote:
Hi,
I am not an experienced user of lilypond, but this seems to me
as bug in parser, or, I do not understand something...
==**
\version 2.15.43
Upper = \relative c' {
e2 g |
\repeat volta 2 {
c2 e |
}
\alternative {
{ g, b r } |
{ g b g } |
}
}
Lower = \relative c {
c'2 g |
\repeat volta 2 {
c2 e |
}
\alternative {
{ g, f } |
{ g g } |
}
\bar |.
}
\score {
\new Staff { \Upper \\ \Lower }
\layout { }
}
==**=
Greetings, Zbyszek -
I believe that, if you move
\bar |. inside the second alternative, the warnings will disappear :
\alternative {
{ g, f } |
{ g g } |
\bar |.
}
Ralph
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palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com
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Re: Tie between repeat and alternative
remove e4 ~ and use
\repeatTie
in alternative after the note.
\repeat volta 2 { r4 e4 } \alternative { e4 \repeatTie f4 } { e4 \repeatTie g4 }
--- On Fri, 3/19/10, Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt wrote:
From: Alberto Simões al...@alfarrabio.di.uminho.pt
Subject: Tie between repeat and alternative
To: lilypond lilypond-user@gnu.org
Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:08 PM
Hello
When the last note from a repeat includes a tie, the first
note from the
alternative gets rendered correctly. But the second
alternative don't.
Any way to make it work?
\repeat volta 2 {
r4 e4 ~
}
\alternative {
{ e4 f4 }
{ e4 r }
}
Thanks.
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Tie between repeat and alternative
Hello
When the last note from a repeat includes a tie, the first note from the
alternative gets rendered correctly. But the second alternative don't.
Any way to make it work?
\repeat volta 2 {
r4 e4 ~
}
\alternative {
{ e4 f4 }
{ e4 r }
}
Thanks.
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Re: Tie between repeat and alternative
Op vrijdag 19 maart 2010 schreef Alberto:
Hello
When the last note from a repeat includes a tie, the first note from the
alternative gets rendered correctly. But the second alternative don't.
Any way to make it work?
\repeat volta 2 {
r4 e4 ~
}
\alternative {
{ e4 f4 }
{ e4\repeatTie r }
}
best regards,
Wilbert Berendsen
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problem with \repeat and \alternative
Hi,
I have a song with repeats and different endings. There´s a first
ending and one for the 2nd and 3rd time, but if I do it like that:
BEGIN
\version 2.10.16
\relative c'' {
c1
\repeat volta 3 {
c4 c c c
}
\alternative {
{
% first ending
d d d e
}
{
% 2nd and 3rd ending
d c b a
}
}
}
END
I get a box named 1.-2. and one named 3.. Thats how it´s described
in the docs. But how to change this behavior? If I double the part for
2nd and 3rd ending I get three boxes - one for 1., one for 2. and one
for 3. - thats noch what I want, b/c 2 and 3 are the same.
Dominic
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slur repeat and alternative
Excuse my poor english (I'm french).
With lilypond 2.0 on Linux RH 7.3 , i can't obtain
what i want with the following :
\score {
\notes {
\time 4/4
\clef bass
\repeat volta2 { c4 d e f( }
\alternative { { d2) d} { f) f,} }
}
\paper { }
}
I get the warning :
/home/jose/lilyfiles/gamme.ly:6:29: AVERTISSEMENT: ne peut repérer le début d'une
liaison:
\alternative { { d2) d} { f
) f,}
What I need is a slur between the f and d2 in the first volta box
(that's OK) and a slur end on the first f in the second volta box.
Thanks.
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Re: slur repeat and alternative
This question has been answered many times on the mailing list
(see the archives).
There is no direct support for this in LilyPond at the moment, so
you have to fake it by drawing the slur in secunda volta from an
invisible note. For example:
\score {
\notes {
\time 4/4
\clef bass
\repeat volta2 { c4 d e f( }
\alternative { { d2) d} { \hideNotes g4( \unHideNotes f2*1/2) f,} }
}
\paper { }
}
/Mats
Jose wrote:
Excuse my poor english (I'm french).
With lilypond 2.0 on Linux RH 7.3 , i can't obtain
what i want with the following :
\score {
\notes {
\time 4/4
\clef bass
\repeat volta2 { c4 d e f( }
\alternative { { d2) d} { f) f,} }
}
\paper { }
}
I get the warning :
/home/jose/lilyfiles/gamme.ly:6:29: AVERTISSEMENT: ne peut repérer le début d'une
liaison:
\alternative { { d2) d} { f
) f,}
What I need is a slur between the f and d2 in the first volta box
(that's OK) and a slur end on the first f in the second volta box.
Thanks.
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