Re: some original LP scores

2013-09-16 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi,

a somewhat late answer...

2013/9/8 Dave Phillips dlphill...@woh.rr.com:
 I've revised some pieces and added some new things here :

 http://linux-sound.org/dlp-music-lilypond/

 Comments and suggestions are most welcome, particularly regarding part
 writing and instrument-specific matters. This work was done primarily in
 response to an on-going article project, I'd like it to be presented as well
 as possible.

Sonatina Prelude
---

* i recommend upgrading to newest development version (there's almost
nothing to change in syntax, actually).  Current dev version produces
consistent spacing on both pages (in your rendering, systems on 2nd
page are much closer than on the first page), and also accents don't
touch slurs.

* the proper way to indicate guitar positions is using text
spanners: 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/guitar#indicating-position-and-barring
(they automatically adjust their length when the spacing changes).

* in my opinion it would be clearer to define two voices and combine
them instead of creating splits on a per-measure basis.  But that's
a matter of personal preference.

Umeko
-

* I find the voicing in m.61-64 a bit strange.

* accent in m.73 collides with the notes.

* placement of whole noteheads in last measure looks strange.

I believe these problems would have a smaller chance of appearing if
there were full-length voices, i.e. if you had used

melodyI = { 104 bars of music }
melodyII = { 104 bars of music }
melodyIII = { 104 bars of music }


  \melodyI
  \melodyII
  \melodyIII


rather than  { } \\ { } \\ { }  construct.


Trios
---

* it would be good to increase the distance between systems, either by
reducing font-size or by spreading the piece onto more pages.

Can i save these scores as a material for analyzing LilyPond
performance in the future?

best,
Janek

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Re: some original LP scores

2013-09-16 Thread Dave Phillips

On 09/16/2013 10:18 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote:

Hi,

a somewhat late answer...



Hi Janek,

Thanks for your comments and suggestions, I agree with your judgements. 
Umeko needs a complete code rewrite, the Sonatina somewhat less. The 
trios are the most ambitious things I've done in LP, I've a lot to fix 
there.


Btw, Rachael asked if the guitar pieces had been recorded. They have 
not, though the Sonatina is available in a recorded MIDI version at

http://archive.org/details/SonatinaForAnImaginaryGuitarist.

Unfortunately time is in short supply these days, but I'll try to do a 
major clean-up over the next two weeks. I'll announce the refreshed 
scores when they're ready.


Best,

dp


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some original LP scores

2013-09-08 Thread Dave Phillips

Greetings,

Some time ago I wrote to this list with some questions which were 
answered promptly by various members here. Thanks to their assistance I 
got re-started with LilyPond, and I've been busy using it via the 
Frescobaldi program.


I've revised some pieces and added some new things here :

http://linux-sound.org/dlp-music-lilypond/

Comments and suggestions are most welcome, particularly regarding part 
writing and instrument-specific matters. This work was done primarily in 
response to an on-going article project, I'd like it to be presented as 
well as possible.


Again, my deep thanks to the LP development and user communities.

Best regards,

dp

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Re: some original LP scores

2013-09-08 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi,

do you know GitHub?  I think it would be convenient to use it in this
situation - it would be easy to post comments about specific lines of
code, send you patches with suggestions how to improve things etc (i
consider doing this manually to be pretty inconvenient).

Even if you don't know github and git, you may be interested to try
this (i could help you with setup) - it will most probably be a very
enlightening experience, as LilyPond text input enables you to use a
very interesting workflow.

best,
Janek

2013/9/8 Dave Phillips dlphill...@woh.rr.com:
 Greetings,

 Some time ago I wrote to this list with some questions which were answered
 promptly by various members here. Thanks to their assistance I got
 re-started with LilyPond, and I've been busy using it via the Frescobaldi
 program.

 I've revised some pieces and added some new things here :

 http://linux-sound.org/dlp-music-lilypond/

 Comments and suggestions are most welcome, particularly regarding part
 writing and instrument-specific matters. This work was done primarily in
 response to an on-going article project, I'd like it to be presented as well
 as possible.

 Again, my deep thanks to the LP development and user communities.

 Best regards,

 dp

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Re: some original LP scores

2013-09-08 Thread luis jure

thanks for sharing, dave. 

wow, i imagine umeko must have been very beautiful... i had a japanese
girlfriend in the late 1980s, and i still remember her fondly.

i can't say i read your score with the attention it deserves, but the
first thing i noticed is that starting on m. 52 the rests in the middle
voice seem to be missing (it's the lower part in m. 73). it also called my
attention that there are several tempo indications through the piece, but
no dynamics after the initial mf.

other than that, i would have oriented some ties differently, specially on
some chords. is this out-of-the-box? looks nice overall.

good to see you around, dave, looking forward to reading your article!


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Re: some original LP scores

2013-09-08 Thread SoundsFromSound
Dave:

Thank you so much for sharing these! They look great. Wonderful examples of
how beautiful engraved scores look using LilyPond.

Ben


Dave Phillips wrote
 Greetings,
 
 Some time ago I wrote to this list with some questions which were 
 answered promptly by various members here. Thanks to their assistance I 
 got re-started with LilyPond, and I've been busy using it via the 
 Frescobaldi program.
 
 I've revised some pieces and added some new things here :
 
  http://linux-sound.org/dlp-music-lilypond/
 
 Comments and suggestions are most welcome, particularly regarding part 
 writing and instrument-specific matters. This work was done primarily in 
 response to an on-going article project, I'd like it to be presented as 
 well as possible.
 
 Again, my deep thanks to the LP development and user communities.
 
 Best regards,
 
 dp
 
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Re: some original LP scores

2013-09-08 Thread David Kastrup
luis jure l...@internet.com.uy writes:

 thanks for sharing, dave. 

 wow, i imagine umeko must have been very beautiful...

Not in tablature, I'm afraid (but that's not how Dave himself chose to
look at Umeko).  I entered a Type-Ugly issue as
URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3542.

It's not quite original as I had to sever a tie in order to make sure it
was not cause of the problem.

-- 
David Kastrup


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Re: some original LP scores

2013-09-08 Thread luis jure

on 2013-09-08 at 16:56 Dave Phillips wrote:

 Since you're a fellow Csounder, can you suggest ways to link that system
 with LP ? IIRC Csound has some support for MusicXML, but I've never
 tested it.

i did something very basic not long ago for a project, parsing the output
of the event-listener with a python script to generate a csound score. i
repeat it was *very basic*, according to my limited knowledge of python
and my non-existent programming skills... it was also hard-coded for our
specific LP code and csound orchestra, and it would be useless for general
use. but there are some ideas there.

i think this is a recurring theme on the lilypond community, the
possibility of rendering the music with good(ish) quality from the
lilypond score. at least *i* would be interested in something like that.

i see three possible lines of work:

1) improving lilypond's MIDI output. there's a thread still running about
panning, and there were others before that. right now lily's MIDI output is
very basic. of course MIDI itself is very limited, but if LP had a more
sophisticated MIDI module (or whatever it is called), that alone would be
a great improvement;

2) MusicXML? i must say that i know next to nothing about MusicXML itself,
or how it is supported by LP or Csound. but i guess there's much potential
there;

3) something along the lines of what i did. event-listener.ly would need
to be expanded to support more events, then different scripts could be
developed to parse the output and generate standard midi files or csound
scores or whatever. i think python is perfect for this task, but then
again i know very little or nothing about other programming languages.
from what i hear, many people like lua now.

i think those would be interesting projects if there were people with both
the qualifications and the disposition to work on them... i'd be glad to
involve myself in something along line 3) if it used python. but someone
is needed with solid LP scheme knowledge to expand event-listener.ly.


best,


lj






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Re: some original LP scores

2013-09-08 Thread Rachael Thomas Carlson

Hello dp:

Sonatina: Prelude, m.2 should have a third position marking instead of 
the second position marking that is in the score at the moment.


I am having some fun playing through these.  Has anyone performed them?

Rachael

On 09/08/2013 09:53 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:

Greetings,

Some time ago I wrote to this list with some questions which were
answered promptly by various members here. Thanks to their assistance I
got re-started with LilyPond, and I've been busy using it via the
Frescobaldi program.

I've revised some pieces and added some new things here :

 http://linux-sound.org/dlp-music-lilypond/

Comments and suggestions are most welcome, particularly regarding part
writing and instrument-specific matters. This work was done primarily in
response to an on-going article project, I'd like it to be presented as
well as possible.

Again, my deep thanks to the LP development and user communities.

Best regards,

dp

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