Re: [LincolnTalk] Gas leaks

[Dennis Liu]

Fascinating, thanks for sharing.  This small research study has certainly made 
headlines across the country, as many media outlets have picked up on it.  I 
admit to some curiosity, as the news hit the big points, but without much 
context.  So decided to do some simple arithmetic.  

 

>From the cited study (https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.1c04707) 
>itself:  "For our methane emission measurements, we scaled our measurements to 
>calculate the total amount of methane emitted from stoves overall, employing 
>the usage patterns reported by Chan et al. and Zhao et al. (18,28) (see the 
>Materials and Methods section). We estimated that an average stove (burners 
>plus oven) emitted 649 [95% CI: 427, 949] g CH4 year–1"  

 

So, 649 grams (or 1.43 pounds) of methane emitted by a stove per year (from 
both in use and when not in use).  Is that . . . a lot?  Is that . . . 
dangerous?  One would think all of these news stories would provide this 
context, right??

 

Google tells me that a single cow produces 220 pounds of methane per year.  
That means that a gas stove produces about 0.65% of the methane a cow does.

 

There are about 94.8 million cows in the US, and 43.4 million gas 
stoves/cooktops/ovens.  Which means, overall in the United States per year, all 
gas appliances produce about 0.3% of the methane that cows do.

 

Which is not intended to diminish the fact that, yes, anything that uses 
natural gas will generate methane - including those natural gas plants that 
generate the electricity used for electric appliances.  Also, we should keep in 
mind, "According to the International Energy Agency (IEA), about 40 percent of 
total

global methane emissions occur naturally from sources such as wetlands, 
geologic seepage, permafrost, and animal secretions.  The remaining 60 percent 
of global methane emissions are anthropogenic (man-made), and the largest 
portion of these come from agricultural production such as raising

livestock and rice production. Fossil fuel production, transportation, and use 
account for approximately 20 percent (~113 million metric tons) of total global 
methane emissions, and emissions attributable to gas power are about 3% (17 
million metric tons) of the global total."

 

Having said all of this, I cannot emphasize enough how much of a fan of 
induction cooktops I am.  I will never use conventional electric cooktops 
again, and I would even switch from gas to induction when economically 
appropriate.  Induction is that awesome -- its faster than gas, can be more 
controllable, and WAY, WAY, WAY easier to keep clean.

 

HTH,

 

--Dennis

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Lincoln  On Behalf Of Belinda Gingrich
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 8:50 PM
To: lincoln@lincolntalk.org
Subject: [LincolnTalk] Gas leaks

 

The induction stove top at the library is busy making rounds. I feel bad 
promoting these stoves when its next to impossible to buy a full sized range 
right now. Hopefully they will repopulate the stores with cars and cat food 
this spring!

 

This article was in the NYT yesterday about a study which found gas lines and 
stoves inside the house were leaking methane even when the appliances were off. 
I shouldn’t have been surprised since we know there are huge numbers of leaks 
in the natural gas network leading to our houses but I hadn’t imagined they are 
in our houses as well.

 

  
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/27/climate/gas-stoves-methane-emissions.html

 

Enjoy the snow!

Belinda

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Gas leaks

[Toby Frost]

On 1/28/22 8:49 PM, Belinda Gingrich wrote:


This article was in the NYT yesterday about a study which found gas 
lines and stoves inside the house were leaking methane even when the 
appliances were off. I shouldn’t have been surprised since we know there 
are huge numbers of leaks in the natural gas network leading to our 
houses but I hadn’t imagined they are in our houses as well.


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/27/climate/gas-stoves-methane-emissions.html

Enjoy the snow!
Belinda

But just don't breathe !!! ???
Toby - not holding my breath because I don't use gas !!!


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[LincolnTalk] Gas leaks

[Belinda Gingrich]

The induction stove top at the library is busy making rounds. I feel bad 
promoting these stoves when its next to impossible to buy a full sized range 
right now. Hopefully they will repopulate the stores with cars and cat food 
this spring!

This article was in the NYT yesterday about a study which found gas lines and 
stoves inside the house were leaking methane even when the appliances were off. 
I shouldn’t have been surprised since we know there are huge numbers of leaks 
in the natural gas network leading to our houses but I hadn’t imagined they are 
in our houses as well.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/27/climate/gas-stoves-methane-emissions.html

Enjoy the snow!
Belinda
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[Alice Waugh]

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Find out why Donelan's has been closed for so long, what's happening with
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[LincolnTalk] LCOA&HS-Activities Jan 24 through Jan 28

[Gagne, Amy]

Hello to All:

Monday, Jan 31
  2:00 Tai Chi 1 via zoom
  3:00 Tai Chi 2 via Zoom

Tuesday, Feb 1
 9:30-11:00  Knitting Group at Bemis Hall
11:15 Stretch and Flex Exercise at Bemis Hall
12:15 Active Aging Exercise at Bemis Hall
  1:00 Noticing Walks with John Calabria
2:15-4:30  Mental Health Clinic

Wednesday, Feb 2
11:00Line Dancing at Bemis Hall- Great exercise and good spacing to 
participate!!
12:30Russian Conversation at Bemis Hall
  1:00Tai Chi 1 via Zoom
  2:00Tai Chi 3 via Zoom
  3:00Open Art Studio at Bemis Hall

Thursday, Feb 3
 9:00-12Veterans Service Hours
 9:15  Tai Chi 1 via Zoom
10:15 Tai Chi 2 via Zoom.
11:15 Stretch and Flex Exercise at Bemis Hall
12:15 Active Aging Exercise at Bemis Hall
  1:30-4:30Tech Tutor with Ilya at Bemis

Friday, Feb 4
10:00German Conversation via Zoom
10:00SAIL Class via Zoom

Have a safe weekend,

Amy Gagne
Assistant Director
Council On Aging & Human Services
Bemis Hall
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Lincoln, MA 01773
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing

[Eric Zimmerman]

For those wondering why the federal government owns property there:
The Property was acquired by the U.S. government in 1957 as part of the
U.S. Army’s former Boston
Defense Area, Nike Battery B-73 Project. Nike Battery B-73 anti-aircraft
missile defense facilities were
constructed in the Wayland area during the mid-1950’s and the Property was
purchased to provide local
housing to personnel assigned to the Nike facilities. The Property was
reassigned to the U.S. Army Natick
Laboratory (now the Natick Soldier Systems Center) in September 1970. The
Wayland Housing Area
served Battery B-73 personnel from the time of its construction in 1958
until the deactivation of the Nike
Battery facilities in 1974. The Property continued to serve as a military
family housing area after Battery
B-73 was deactivated and has provided off-site housing for local military
personnel, including personnel
assigned to the Natick Laboratory/Natick Soldier Systems Center from 1974
through the fall of 2018. The
last of the housing units at the Wayland Housing Area are expected to be
vacated by around 30 November
2018 in anticipation of the pending sale (USACE, 2019). A site location map
and aerial site plan are
provided attached, as Enclosure 1.

https://home.army.mil/natick/application/files/1915/8082/9839/Draft_FOST_-_Wayland_January_2020.pdf
http://www.themilitarystandard.com/missile/nike/bo73-2.php (esp see streets
in the bottom image)

Also:
https://lincolnsquirrel.com/blog/2017/12/10/oxbow-meadow-field-proposal-to-be-decided-by-state-court/


On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 2:07 PM Alice Waugh  wrote:

> I think the area you're referring to is in Wayland. If you Google "Lincoln
> MA" you'll get a map showing the town borders in red.
>
> Alice Waugh
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 11:35 AM Heather Silvestro <
> heathersilves...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On the subject of affordable housing, could someone educate me about the
>> 11 vacant, seemingly abandoned-in-the-middle-of-the-night, single-family,
>> ranch-style houses on Launcher Way and Oxbow? I’ve driven by this deserted
>> neighborhood for six years now on my way to LSRHS, and wondered how such
>> waste of would-be affordable housing stock is possible. Why isn’t it being
>> used?
>> Heather Anderson
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Victoria Benalfew 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi Patrick,
>>
>> You raised many good points that I agree with. I do want to point out
>> though that having a full time "good-paying" job isn't enough anymore (or
>> maybe the wages of what one can consider a "good paying" job has changed
>> considerably).
>>
>> Take the job that pays $20. At 40 hours per week, that is $800. Monthly
>> pay before taxes will be $3200. Now assume this person is a single parent
>> of one child or the caretaker of elderly parents with meager Social
>> Security incomes.
>>
>> A 2 bedroom apartment costs roughly $2000. Already over 50 percent  of
>> their pre-tax income has been taken for rent. Utilities are additional, as
>> are food, childcare, et cetera.
>>
>> This is why in addition to the need for  physical housing in accessible
>> areas, there is a need for truly affordable housing, which I would consider
>> as income-driven rents, where families can afford to live and make
>> ends meet.
>>
>> Thank you for reading,
>>
>> Victoria Benalfew
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 9:05 AM Patrick B  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Lincoln,
>>>
>>> To understand the housing situation, we must understand what is
>>> happening in Boston and the region:
>>>
>>>1. When housing costs go up in Boston, it goes up everywhere.
>>>2. Affordability of housing is not just about cost, it's about
>>>access to public transportation and jobs.
>>>3. Builders have been building fewer houses since 2008. They are
>>>building houses and apartments mainly in high income areas (along 128).
>>>4. Another factor is that people who used to retire and move south
>>>are now staying because of the quality of our healthcare system here in
>>>Mass.
>>>5. I think the solution is real full time jobs that pay well (at
>>>least $20).
>>>6. Another positive thing that I see happening in the next 5 years
>>>is conversion of many office and commercial spaces into apartments.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> P
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:04 AM Christine Damon <
>>> christinehda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 I am so happy Housing is being discussed here!

 I love the proposal for more units close to the train station and I
 love the proposals for more accessory apartments as residents recognize
 that they can comfortably live in much smaller spaces and help reduce their
 ecological footprint.

 Like Susan, I have looked in vain for affordable units in eastern Ma
 when I was the director of a migrant educational program and my students
 faced eviction during the pandemic.

 Now I teach at HAB and hear stud

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He is very kind and respectful and reliable.
I would highly recommend him for furniture repairs and other carpentry projects.

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing

[Alice Waugh]

I think the area you're referring to is in Wayland. If you Google "Lincoln
MA" you'll get a map showing the town borders in red.

Alice Waugh

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 11:35 AM Heather Silvestro <
heathersilves...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On the subject of affordable housing, could someone educate me about the
> 11 vacant, seemingly abandoned-in-the-middle-of-the-night, single-family,
> ranch-style houses on Launcher Way and Oxbow? I’ve driven by this deserted
> neighborhood for six years now on my way to LSRHS, and wondered how such
> waste of would-be affordable housing stock is possible. Why isn’t it being
> used?
> Heather Anderson
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 28, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Victoria Benalfew 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Patrick,
>
> You raised many good points that I agree with. I do want to point out
> though that having a full time "good-paying" job isn't enough anymore (or
> maybe the wages of what one can consider a "good paying" job has changed
> considerably).
>
> Take the job that pays $20. At 40 hours per week, that is $800. Monthly
> pay before taxes will be $3200. Now assume this person is a single parent
> of one child or the caretaker of elderly parents with meager Social
> Security incomes.
>
> A 2 bedroom apartment costs roughly $2000. Already over 50 percent  of
> their pre-tax income has been taken for rent. Utilities are additional, as
> are food, childcare, et cetera.
>
> This is why in addition to the need for  physical housing in accessible
> areas, there is a need for truly affordable housing, which I would consider
> as income-driven rents, where families can afford to live and make
> ends meet.
>
> Thank you for reading,
>
> Victoria Benalfew
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 9:05 AM Patrick B  wrote:
>
>> Hi Lincoln,
>>
>> To understand the housing situation, we must understand what is happening
>> in Boston and the region:
>>
>>1. When housing costs go up in Boston, it goes up everywhere.
>>2. Affordability of housing is not just about cost, it's about access
>>to public transportation and jobs.
>>3. Builders have been building fewer houses since 2008. They are
>>building houses and apartments mainly in high income areas (along 128).
>>4. Another factor is that people who used to retire and move south
>>are now staying because of the quality of our healthcare system here in
>>Mass.
>>5. I think the solution is real full time jobs that pay well (at
>>least $20).
>>6. Another positive thing that I see happening in the next 5 years is
>>conversion of many office and commercial spaces into apartments.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> P
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:04 AM Christine Damon <
>> christinehda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am so happy Housing is being discussed here!
>>>
>>> I love the proposal for more units close to the train station and I love
>>> the proposals for more accessory apartments as residents recognize that
>>> they can comfortably live in much smaller spaces and help reduce their
>>> ecological footprint.
>>>
>>> Like Susan, I have looked in vain for affordable units in eastern Ma
>>> when I was the director of a migrant educational program and my students
>>> faced eviction during the pandemic.
>>>
>>> Now I teach at HAB and hear students talking about how their parents
>>> plan to retire from the military but struggle to find housing in the
>>> region.
>>>
>>> A small group of us here in Lincoln have been looking for two years for
>>> an affordable apartment in town for a single mother of 3 who is a social
>>> worker in her country of origin but who works as a cleaning person at an
>>> elder care facility while she learns English. Her monthly income is less
>>> than the cost of a 2-bedroom rental.
>>>
>>> I feel hopeful both that environmental awareness is speeding up
>>> downsizing and that awareness is growing about the damage of systemic
>>> racism in housing realities and about how that works to maintain America’s
>>> caste system.
>>>
>>> I love this town but struggled to sustain the love,  especially during
>>> the large house building boom of the 1990s. Currently my love is
>>> strengthening as I see the pendulum shifting in a healthier direction on so
>>> many fronts and on so many issues.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for all you do and for choosing to live in this special
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Chris Damon
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing

[Rob]

I found this from a quick Google search… seems like the property is owned by 
the federal government and is being sold 

https://www.wayland.ma.us/sites/g/files/vyhlif4016/f/minutes/minutes_joint_housing_committee_oct._23.pdf

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> On Jan 28, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Allen Vander Meulen  
> wrote:
> 
> I believe that neighborhood is in Wayland.  So, using my “Lincoln Housing 
> Commission” hat, I have no knowledge or input on that; but would be 
> interested myself (as a private citizen) in what is going on there.
> 
> - Allen
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 11:35, Heather Silvestro  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On the subject of affordable housing, could someone educate me about the 11 
>> vacant, seemingly abandoned-in-the-middle-of-the-night, single-family, 
>> ranch-style houses on Launcher Way and Oxbow? I’ve driven by this deserted 
>> neighborhood for six years now on my way to LSRHS, and wondered how such 
>> waste of would-be affordable housing stock is possible. Why isn’t it being 
>> used? 
>> Heather Anderson
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 28, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Victoria Benalfew  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Hi Patrick, 
>>> 
>>> You raised many good points that I agree with. I do want to point out 
>>> though that having a full time "good-paying" job isn't enough anymore (or 
>>> maybe the wages of what one can consider a "good paying" job has changed 
>>> considerably). 
>>> 
>>> Take the job that pays $20. At 40 hours per week, that is $800. Monthly pay 
>>> before taxes will be $3200. Now assume this person is a single parent of 
>>> one child or the caretaker of elderly parents with meager Social Security 
>>> incomes. 
>>> 
>>> A 2 bedroom apartment costs roughly $2000. Already over 50 percent  of 
>>> their pre-tax income has been taken for rent. Utilities are additional, as 
>>> are food, childcare, et cetera. 
>>> 
>>> This is why in addition to the need for  physical housing in accessible 
>>> areas, there is a need for truly affordable housing, which I would consider 
>>> as income-driven rents, where families can afford to live and make ends 
>>> meet. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for reading,
>>> 
>>> Victoria Benalfew 
>>> 
 On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 9:05 AM Patrick B  wrote:
 Hi Lincoln,
 
 To understand the housing situation, we must understand what is happening 
 in Boston and the region:
 When housing costs go up in Boston, it goes up everywhere.
 Affordability of housing is not just about cost, it's about access to 
 public transportation and jobs.
 Builders have been building fewer houses since 2008. They are building 
 houses and apartments mainly in high income areas (along 128).
 Another factor is that people who used to retire and move south are now 
 staying because of the quality of our healthcare system here in Mass. 
 I think the solution is real full time jobs that pay well (at least $20).
 Another positive thing that I see happening in the next 5 years is 
 conversion of many office and commercial spaces into apartments. 
 I hope this helps.
 
 Thank you,
 
 P
 
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:04 AM Christine Damon 
>  wrote:
> I am so happy Housing is being discussed here! 
> 
> I love the proposal for more units close to the train station and I love 
> the proposals for more accessory apartments as residents recognize that 
> they can comfortably live in much smaller spaces and help reduce their 
> ecological footprint.
> 
> Like Susan, I have looked in vain for affordable units in eastern Ma when 
> I was the director of a migrant educational program and my students faced 
> eviction during the pandemic. 
> 
> Now I teach at HAB and hear students talking about how their parents plan 
> to retire from the military but struggle to find housing in the region. 
> 
> A small group of us here in Lincoln have been looking for two years for 
> an affordable apartment in town for a single mother of 3 who is a social 
> worker in her country of origin but who works as a cleaning person at an 
> elder care facility while she learns English. Her monthly income is less 
> than the cost of a 2-bedroom rental.
> 
> I feel hopeful both that environmental awareness is speeding up 
> downsizing and that awareness is growing about the damage of systemic 
> racism in housing realities and about how that works to maintain 
> America’s caste system.
> 
> I love this town but struggled to sustain the love,  especially during 
> the large house building boom of the 1990s. Currently my love is 
> strengthening as I see the pendulum shifting in a healthier direction on 
> so many fronts and on so many issues.
> 
> Thank you all for all you do and for choosing to live in this special 
> place.
> 
> Chris Damon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> -- 
> The LincolnTalk m

Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing

[duxburydames]

 Perhaps it is bureaucracy ? Google search turned up the excerpt from Wayland meeting minutes, but didn't find anything more recent.  WAYLAND HOUSING PARTNERSHIP Joint meeting with:
Wayland Housing Authority Municipal Affordable Housing Trust Planning Board
Minutes – October 23, 2019Launcher Way: This 5.6 acre property in north Wayland is close to the former Nike site.
Consisting of 12 single family units, the Town would like to acquire the parcel for affordable
rental housing. The units are owned by the federal government and, based on a relatively new
law, they are apparently obligated to sell the property to the highest bidder, which could yield
bids as high as $2-5 million. At the low end, the estimate is based on a calculation that, by right,
a developer could build 4-5 units @ $500,000/lot. At the higher end, the developer could use
chapter 40B or seek another type of zoning variance. However, a zoning change voted on at the
Special Town Meeting in 2018 could reduce the maximum bids received, since it severely
restricts future uses of certain rental parcels (see Note below). Many participants felt that the
Town should start discussions with possible development partners, particularly nonprofit
organizations working in Metrowest. The Government’s environmental review of the property
is in the public comments phase. Following this period, Sarkis expects that the property will be
ready to be marketed. Depending on the government’s schedule, it is possible that we could
bring the issue to Town Meeting in the spring and, perhaps, borrow against future MAHT
allocations. Although not mentioned at the meeting, Rachel would like to add a special note of
thanks to Sarkis for his work on Launcher Way and his efforts to retain the land for affordable
housing. -- Original message --From: heathersilves...@comcast.netDate: Fri Jan 28 11:35:04 EST 2022Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] HousingTo: abelan...@gmail.com;On the subject of affordable housing, could someone educate me about the 11 vacant, seemingly abandoned-in-the-middle-of-the-night, single-family, ranch-style houses on Launcher Way and Oxbow? I’ve driven by this deserted neighborhood for six years now on my way to LSRHS, and wondered how such waste of would-be affordable housing stock is possible. Why isn’t it being used? Heather AndersonSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 28, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Victoria Benalfew  wrote:Hi Patrick, You raised many good points that I agree with. I do want to point out though that having a full time "good-paying" job isn't enough anymore (or maybe the wages of what one can consider a "good paying" job has changed considerably). Take the job that pays $20. At 40 hours per week, that is $800. Monthly pay before taxes will be $3200. Now assume this person is a single parent of one child or the caretaker of elderly parents with meager Social Security incomes. A 2 bedroom apartment costs roughly $2000. Already over 50 percent  of their pre-tax income has been taken for rent. Utilities are additional, as are food, childcare, et cetera. This is why in addition to the need for  physical housing in accessible areas, there is a need for truly affordable housing, which I would consider as income-driven rents, where families can afford to live and make ends meet. Thank you for reading,Victoria Benalfew On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 9:05 AM Patrick B  wrote:Hi Lincoln,To understand the housing situation, we must understand what is happening in Boston and the region:When housing costs go up in Boston, it goes up everywhere.Affordability of housing is not just about cost, it's about access to public transportation and jobs.Builders have been building fewer houses since 2008. They are building houses and apartments mainly in high income areas (along 128).Another factor is that people who used to retire and move south are now staying because of the quality of our healthcare system here in Mass. I think the solution is real full time jobs that pay well (at least $20).Another positive thing that I see happening in the next 5 years is conversion of many office and commercial spaces into apartments. I hope this helps.Thank you,POn Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:04 AM Christine Damon  wrote:I am so happy Housing is being discussed here! 

I love the proposal for more units close to the train station and I love the proposals for more accessory apartments as residents recognize that they can comfortably live in much smaller spaces and help reduce their ecological footprint.

Like Susan, I have looked in vain for affordable units in eastern Ma when I was the director of a migrant educational program and my students faced eviction during the pandemic. 

Now I teach at HAB and hear students talking about how their parents plan to retire from the military but struggle to find housing in the region. 

A small group of us here in Lincoln have been looking for two years for an affordable apartment in town for a single

Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing

[Stephanie Smoot]

 I'm not judging, just observing a trend but there is a huge number of
single parent households in this area.  When a couple gets divorced (or
just have kids then move on) you then need two homes for a family instead
of one.  Many apartments in this area support this arrangement.  Perhaps if
more people got married, there would be less need for housing.  Can we
encourage love and matrimony?

 I'm also not sure why it is so expensive up here.  It cant just be
the cost of mittens and boots.  I lived quite nicely as a single mother in
the south because daycare and housing was affordable.  The healthcare was
fine.



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On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 9:48 AM Victoria Benalfew 
wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> You raised many good points that I agree with. I do want to point out
> though that having a full time "good-paying" job isn't enough anymore (or
> maybe the wages of what one can consider a "good paying" job has changed
> considerably).
>
> Take the job that pays $20. At 40 hours per week, that is $800. Monthly
> pay before taxes will be $3200. Now assume this person is a single parent
> of one child or the caretaker of elderly parents with meager Social
> Security incomes.
>
> A 2 bedroom apartment costs roughly $2000. Already over 50 percent  of
> their pre-tax income has been taken for rent. Utilities are additional, as
> are food, childcare, et cetera.
>
> This is why in addition to the need for  physical housing in accessible
> areas, there is a need for truly affordable housing, which I would consider
> as income-driven rents, where families can afford to live and make
> ends meet.
>
> Thank you for reading,
>
> Victoria Benalfew
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 9:05 AM Patrick B  wrote:
>
>> Hi Lincoln,
>>
>> To understand the housing situation, we must understand what is happening
>> in Boston and the region:
>>
>>1. When housing costs go up in Boston, it goes up everywhere.
>>2. Affordability of housing is not just about cost, it's about access
>>to public transportation and jobs.
>>3. Builders have been building fewer houses since 2008. They are
>>building houses and apartments mainly in high income areas (along 128).
>>4. Another factor is that people who used to retire and move south
>>are now staying because of the quality of our healthcare system here in
>>Mass.
>>5. I think the solution is real full time jobs that pay well (at
>>least $20).
>>6. Another positive thing that I see happening in the next 5 years is
>>conversion of many office and commercial spaces into apartments.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> P
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:04 AM Christine Damon <
>> christinehda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am so happy Housing is being discussed here!
>>>
>>> I love the proposal for more units close to the train station and I love
>>> the proposals for more accessory apartments as residents recognize that
>>> they can comfortably live in much smaller spaces and help reduce their
>>> ecological footprint.
>>>
>>> Like Susan, I have looked in vain for affordable units in eastern Ma
>>> when I was the director of a migrant educational program and my students
>>> faced eviction during the pandemic.
>>>
>>> Now I teach at HAB and hear students talking about how their parents
>>> plan to retire from the military but struggle to find housing in the
>>> region.
>>>
>>> A small group of us here in Lincoln have been looking for two years for
>>> an affordable apartment in town for a single mother of 3 who is a social
>>> worker in her country of origin but who works as a cleaning person at an
>>> elder care facility while she learns English. Her monthly income is less
>>> than the cost of a 2-bedroom rental.
>>>
>>> I feel hopeful both that environmental awareness is speeding up
>>> downsizing and that awareness is growing about the damage of systemic
>>> racism in housing realities and about how that works to maintain America’s
>>> caste system.
>>>
>>> I love this town but struggled to sustain the love,  especially during
>>> the large house building boom of the 1990s. Currently my love is
>>> strengthening as I see the pendulum shifting in a healthier direction on so
>>> many fronts and on so many issues.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for all you do and for choosing to live in this special
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Chris Damon
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing

[Allen Vander Meulen]

I believe that neighborhood is in Wayland.  So, using my “Lincoln Housing 
Commission” hat, I have no knowledge or input on that; but would be interested 
myself (as a private citizen) in what is going on there.

- Allen

> On Jan 28, 2022, at 11:35, Heather Silvestro  
> wrote:
> 
> On the subject of affordable housing, could someone educate me about the 11 
> vacant, seemingly abandoned-in-the-middle-of-the-night, single-family, 
> ranch-style houses on Launcher Way and Oxbow? I’ve driven by this deserted 
> neighborhood for six years now on my way to LSRHS, and wondered how such 
> waste of would-be affordable housing stock is possible. Why isn’t it being 
> used? 
> Heather Anderson
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Victoria Benalfew  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Patrick, 
>> 
>> You raised many good points that I agree with. I do want to point out though 
>> that having a full time "good-paying" job isn't enough anymore (or maybe the 
>> wages of what one can consider a "good paying" job has changed 
>> considerably). 
>> 
>> Take the job that pays $20. At 40 hours per week, that is $800. Monthly pay 
>> before taxes will be $3200. Now assume this person is a single parent of one 
>> child or the caretaker of elderly parents with meager Social Security 
>> incomes. 
>> 
>> A 2 bedroom apartment costs roughly $2000. Already over 50 percent  of their 
>> pre-tax income has been taken for rent. Utilities are additional, as are 
>> food, childcare, et cetera. 
>> 
>> This is why in addition to the need for  physical housing in accessible 
>> areas, there is a need for truly affordable housing, which I would consider 
>> as income-driven rents, where families can afford to live and make ends 
>> meet. 
>> 
>> Thank you for reading,
>> 
>> Victoria Benalfew 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 9:05 AM Patrick B > > wrote:
>> Hi Lincoln,
>> 
>> To understand the housing situation, we must understand what is happening in 
>> Boston and the region:
>> When housing costs go up in Boston, it goes up everywhere.
>> Affordability of housing is not just about cost, it's about access to public 
>> transportation and jobs.
>> Builders have been building fewer houses since 2008. They are building 
>> houses and apartments mainly in high income areas (along 128).
>> Another factor is that people who used to retire and move south are now 
>> staying because of the quality of our healthcare system here in Mass. 
>> I think the solution is real full time jobs that pay well (at least $20).
>> Another positive thing that I see happening in the next 5 years is 
>> conversion of many office and commercial spaces into apartments. 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> P
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:04 AM Christine Damon > > wrote:
>> I am so happy Housing is being discussed here! 
>> 
>> I love the proposal for more units close to the train station and I love the 
>> proposals for more accessory apartments as residents recognize that they can 
>> comfortably live in much smaller spaces and help reduce their ecological 
>> footprint.
>> 
>> Like Susan, I have looked in vain for affordable units in eastern Ma when I 
>> was the director of a migrant educational program and my students faced 
>> eviction during the pandemic. 
>> 
>> Now I teach at HAB and hear students talking about how their parents plan to 
>> retire from the military but struggle to find housing in the region. 
>> 
>> A small group of us here in Lincoln have been looking for two years for an 
>> affordable apartment in town for a single mother of 3 who is a social worker 
>> in her country of origin but who works as a cleaning person at an elder care 
>> facility while she learns English. Her monthly income is less than the cost 
>> of a 2-bedroom rental.
>> 
>> I feel hopeful both that environmental awareness is speeding up downsizing 
>> and that awareness is growing about the damage of systemic racism in housing 
>> realities and about how that works to maintain America’s caste system.
>> 
>> I love this town but struggled to sustain the love,  especially during the 
>> large house building boom of the 1990s. Currently my love is strengthening 
>> as I see the pendulum shifting in a healthier direction on so many fronts 
>> and on so many issues.
>> 
>> Thank you all for all you do and for choosing to live in this special place.
>> 
>> Chris Damon
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing

[Heather Silvestro]

On the subject of affordable housing, could someone educate me about the 11 
vacant, seemingly abandoned-in-the-middle-of-the-night, single-family, 
ranch-style houses on Launcher Way and Oxbow? I’ve driven by this deserted 
neighborhood for six years now on my way to LSRHS, and wondered how such waste 
of would-be affordable housing stock is possible. Why isn’t it being used? 
Heather Anderson


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Victoria Benalfew  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Patrick, 
> 
> You raised many good points that I agree with. I do want to point out though 
> that having a full time "good-paying" job isn't enough anymore (or maybe the 
> wages of what one can consider a "good paying" job has changed considerably). 
> 
> Take the job that pays $20. At 40 hours per week, that is $800. Monthly pay 
> before taxes will be $3200. Now assume this person is a single parent of one 
> child or the caretaker of elderly parents with meager Social Security 
> incomes. 
> 
> A 2 bedroom apartment costs roughly $2000. Already over 50 percent  of their 
> pre-tax income has been taken for rent. Utilities are additional, as are 
> food, childcare, et cetera. 
> 
> This is why in addition to the need for  physical housing in accessible 
> areas, there is a need for truly affordable housing, which I would consider 
> as income-driven rents, where families can afford to live and make ends meet. 
> 
> Thank you for reading,
> 
> Victoria Benalfew 
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 9:05 AM Patrick B  wrote:
>> Hi Lincoln,
>> 
>> To understand the housing situation, we must understand what is happening in 
>> Boston and the region:
>> When housing costs go up in Boston, it goes up everywhere.
>> Affordability of housing is not just about cost, it's about access to public 
>> transportation and jobs.
>> Builders have been building fewer houses since 2008. They are building 
>> houses and apartments mainly in high income areas (along 128).
>> Another factor is that people who used to retire and move south are now 
>> staying because of the quality of our healthcare system here in Mass. 
>> I think the solution is real full time jobs that pay well (at least $20).
>> Another positive thing that I see happening in the next 5 years is 
>> conversion of many office and commercial spaces into apartments. 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> P
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:04 AM Christine Damon  
>>> wrote:
>>> I am so happy Housing is being discussed here! 
>>> 
>>> I love the proposal for more units close to the train station and I love 
>>> the proposals for more accessory apartments as residents recognize that 
>>> they can comfortably live in much smaller spaces and help reduce their 
>>> ecological footprint.
>>> 
>>> Like Susan, I have looked in vain for affordable units in eastern Ma when I 
>>> was the director of a migrant educational program and my students faced 
>>> eviction during the pandemic. 
>>> 
>>> Now I teach at HAB and hear students talking about how their parents plan 
>>> to retire from the military but struggle to find housing in the region. 
>>> 
>>> A small group of us here in Lincoln have been looking for two years for an 
>>> affordable apartment in town for a single mother of 3 who is a social 
>>> worker in her country of origin but who works as a cleaning person at an 
>>> elder care facility while she learns English. Her monthly income is less 
>>> than the cost of a 2-bedroom rental.
>>> 
>>> I feel hopeful both that environmental awareness is speeding up downsizing 
>>> and that awareness is growing about the damage of systemic racism in 
>>> housing realities and about how that works to maintain America’s caste 
>>> system.
>>> 
>>> I love this town but struggled to sustain the love,  especially during the 
>>> large house building boom of the 1990s. Currently my love is strengthening 
>>> as I see the pendulum shifting in a healthier direction on so many fronts 
>>> and on so many issues.
>>> 
>>> Thank you all for all you do and for choosing to live in this special place.
>>> 
>>> Chris Damon
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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[LincolnTalk] Lincoln Public Library closed 1/29

[Lisa Rothenberg]

Hi all;
We just wanted to let people know that the library will be closed all day
Saturday Jan. 29th due to the storm.,
We are open today until 6:00 pm so please drop in to pick up books, DVDs
and CDs  to keep you entertained tomorrow.
Stay safe everyone.

-- 
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Lincoln Public Library
Lincoln MA 01773
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[LincolnTalk] Fwd: HHAN Alert - MODERATE - Blizzard Warning

[Bob Antia]

FYI

The following is an alert message from the Massachusetts Health and
Homeland Alert Network:

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*Alert Message:*
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing

[Victoria Benalfew]

Hi Patrick,

You raised many good points that I agree with. I do want to point out
though that having a full time "good-paying" job isn't enough anymore (or
maybe the wages of what one can consider a "good paying" job has changed
considerably).

Take the job that pays $20. At 40 hours per week, that is $800. Monthly pay
before taxes will be $3200. Now assume this person is a single parent of
one child or the caretaker of elderly parents with meager Social Security
incomes.

A 2 bedroom apartment costs roughly $2000. Already over 50 percent  of
their pre-tax income has been taken for rent. Utilities are additional, as
are food, childcare, et cetera.

This is why in addition to the need for  physical housing in accessible
areas, there is a need for truly affordable housing, which I would consider
as income-driven rents, where families can afford to live and make
ends meet.

Thank you for reading,

Victoria Benalfew

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 9:05 AM Patrick B  wrote:

> Hi Lincoln,
>
> To understand the housing situation, we must understand what is happening
> in Boston and the region:
>
>1. When housing costs go up in Boston, it goes up everywhere.
>2. Affordability of housing is not just about cost, it's about access
>to public transportation and jobs.
>3. Builders have been building fewer houses since 2008. They are
>building houses and apartments mainly in high income areas (along 128).
>4. Another factor is that people who used to retire and move south are
>now staying because of the quality of our healthcare system here in Mass.
>5. I think the solution is real full time jobs that pay well (at least
>$20).
>6. Another positive thing that I see happening in the next 5 years is
>conversion of many office and commercial spaces into apartments.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Thank you,
>
> P
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:04 AM Christine Damon 
> wrote:
>
>> I am so happy Housing is being discussed here!
>>
>> I love the proposal for more units close to the train station and I love
>> the proposals for more accessory apartments as residents recognize that
>> they can comfortably live in much smaller spaces and help reduce their
>> ecological footprint.
>>
>> Like Susan, I have looked in vain for affordable units in eastern Ma when
>> I was the director of a migrant educational program and my students faced
>> eviction during the pandemic.
>>
>> Now I teach at HAB and hear students talking about how their parents plan
>> to retire from the military but struggle to find housing in the region.
>>
>> A small group of us here in Lincoln have been looking for two years for
>> an affordable apartment in town for a single mother of 3 who is a social
>> worker in her country of origin but who works as a cleaning person at an
>> elder care facility while she learns English. Her monthly income is less
>> than the cost of a 2-bedroom rental.
>>
>> I feel hopeful both that environmental awareness is speeding up
>> downsizing and that awareness is growing about the damage of systemic
>> racism in housing realities and about how that works to maintain America’s
>> caste system.
>>
>> I love this town but struggled to sustain the love,  especially during
>> the large house building boom of the 1990s. Currently my love is
>> strengthening as I see the pendulum shifting in a healthier direction on so
>> many fronts and on so many issues.
>>
>> Thank you all for all you do and for choosing to live in this special
>> place.
>>
>> Chris Damon
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing

[Patrick B]

Hi Lincoln,

To understand the housing situation, we must understand what is happening
in Boston and the region:

   1. When housing costs go up in Boston, it goes up everywhere.
   2. Affordability of housing is not just about cost, it's about access to
   public transportation and jobs.
   3. Builders have been building fewer houses since 2008. They are
   building houses and apartments mainly in high income areas (along 128).
   4. Another factor is that people who used to retire and move south are
   now staying because of the quality of our healthcare system here in Mass.
   5. I think the solution is real full time jobs that pay well (at least
   $20).
   6. Another positive thing that I see happening in the next 5 years is
   conversion of many office and commercial spaces into apartments.

I hope this helps.

Thank you,

P

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:04 AM Christine Damon 
wrote:

> I am so happy Housing is being discussed here!
>
> I love the proposal for more units close to the train station and I love
> the proposals for more accessory apartments as residents recognize that
> they can comfortably live in much smaller spaces and help reduce their
> ecological footprint.
>
> Like Susan, I have looked in vain for affordable units in eastern Ma when
> I was the director of a migrant educational program and my students faced
> eviction during the pandemic.
>
> Now I teach at HAB and hear students talking about how their parents plan
> to retire from the military but struggle to find housing in the region.
>
> A small group of us here in Lincoln have been looking for two years for an
> affordable apartment in town for a single mother of 3 who is a social
> worker in her country of origin but who works as a cleaning person at an
> elder care facility while she learns English. Her monthly income is less
> than the cost of a 2-bedroom rental.
>
> I feel hopeful both that environmental awareness is speeding up downsizing
> and that awareness is growing about the damage of systemic racism in
> housing realities and about how that works to maintain America’s caste
> system.
>
> I love this town but struggled to sustain the love,  especially during the
> large house building boom of the 1990s. Currently my love is strengthening
> as I see the pendulum shifting in a healthier direction on so many fronts
> and on so many issues.
>
> Thank you all for all you do and for choosing to live in this special
> place.
>
> Chris Damon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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[LincolnTalk] Housing

[Christine Damon]

I am so happy Housing is being discussed here! 

I love the proposal for more units close to the train station and I love the 
proposals for more accessory apartments as residents recognize that they can 
comfortably live in much smaller spaces and help reduce their ecological 
footprint.

Like Susan, I have looked in vain for affordable units in eastern Ma when I was 
the director of a migrant educational program and my students faced eviction 
during the pandemic. 

Now I teach at HAB and hear students talking about how their parents plan to 
retire from the military but struggle to find housing in the region. 

A small group of us here in Lincoln have been looking for two years for an 
affordable apartment in town for a single mother of 3 who is a social worker in 
her country of origin but who works as a cleaning person at an elder care 
facility while she learns English. Her monthly income is less than the cost of 
a 2-bedroom rental.

I feel hopeful both that environmental awareness is speeding up downsizing and 
that awareness is growing about the damage of systemic racism in housing 
realities and about how that works to maintain America’s caste system.

I love this town but struggled to sustain the love,  especially during the 
large house building boom of the 1990s. Currently my love is strengthening as I 
see the pendulum shifting in a healthier direction on so many fronts and on so 
many issues.

Thank you all for all you do and for choosing to live in this special place.

Chris Damon

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