Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center

[Barbara Low]

Well said!

Barbara Low

From: Lincoln  on behalf of Laura Crosby 

Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 9:30 PM
To: Lincoln Talks 
Subject: [LincolnTalk] Community Center

Whatever we do, wherever we build it and whatever it costs let us not lose this 
opportunity to build a much needed Community Center ( or Village Hall as some 
Europeans call it ). There has been a tremendous amount of thought, time, 
resources and consensus through multiple committees over ten years to develop a 
plan at Hartwell.  If we vote no on allocating money for architecture and 
engineering relook/ revamp of existing plans we will have to eventually 
duplicate dollars for services we have already purchased.
My hope is that we can relook at the work that has been done and find a way to 
reduce costs to a palatable level. Then let’s see what the private fundraising 
group can do to help reduce taxes further on the project.
History shows that a community center can unite a community, offer educational 
opportunities, provide much needed facilities, promote health and well-being,
encourage creativity and culture, enhance the ability to share valuable 
information,
support a wide variety of community projects, combat loneliness, positively 
affect lives of younger people, provide volunteer activities.
 Now more than ever we live in challenging times that require us to pull 
together to bring as much community support as possible to all of our Lincoln 
residents.
I hope you will consider voting
YES on Wednesday evening.

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[LincolnTalk] Community Center

[Laura Crosby]

Whatever we do, wherever we build it and whatever it costs let us not lose this 
opportunity to build a much needed Community Center ( or Village Hall as some 
Europeans call it ). There has been a tremendous amount of thought, time, 
resources and consensus through multiple committees over ten years to develop a 
plan at Hartwell.  If we vote no on allocating money for architecture and 
engineering relook/ revamp of existing plans we will have to eventually 
duplicate dollars for services we have already purchased. 
My hope is that we can relook at the work that has been done and find a way to 
reduce costs to a palatable level. Then let’s see what the private fundraising 
group can do to help reduce taxes further on the project. 
History shows that a community center can unite a community, offer educational 
opportunities, provide much needed facilities, promote health and well-being,
encourage creativity and culture, enhance the ability to share valuable 
information,
support a wide variety of community projects, combat loneliness, positively 
affect lives of younger people, provide volunteer activities.
 Now more than ever we live in challenging times that require us to pull 
together to bring as much community support as possible to all of our Lincoln 
residents. 
I hope you will consider voting
YES on Wednesday evening. 

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Re: [LincolnTalk] on property taxes

[Karla Gravis]

Jennifer,

Agricultural land gets highly preferential tax treatment under Chapter 61A
of the Massachusetts General Law
https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleIX/Chapter61A This is
an exception to the highest and best use generally used for assessments and
appraisals to prevent all farms being subdivided into residential
properties.

Fortunately our good neighbors of Bolton do a break out of their property
taxes by use
https://www.townofbolton.com/sites/g/files/vyhlif2836/f/uploads/boltonassessmentbrochure2022.pdf
All agricultural land is valued at a combined $1.1M, which accounts for
0.09% of the town's total $1.2B assessed taxable property value.

There is no reason we cannot compare our taxes to other farming towns. As
the analysis below shows, land put to agricultural use is virtually tax
exempt. Our high taxes are due to policy decisions exogenous to our land
use.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 2:27 PM Jennifer Saffran 
wrote:

> Regarding “open space”, I am more familiar with one of these towns—Bolton.
> Bolton has a number of commercial farms and orchards. So, while it appears
> that there is open space, it’s taxable land. I do not know what the tax
> rate for working farms are.  A quick search shows there are at least 20
> working farms in Bolton. Likewise, Harvard has 19. Therefore, the numbers
> may not be so comparable.
>
> On Nov 28, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Adam M Hogue  wrote:
>
> Agreed, this chart shows it the best.  Towns with our population generally
> do not have a large community center because they do not have the tax base
> or population to support it.
>
> *Adam M Hogue*
> *Cell: **(978) 828-6184 <(978)%20828-6184>*
>
> On Nov 28, 2022, at 2:12 PM, Karla Gravis  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Rich,
>
> While the hypothesis you presented seems reasonable, the facts show
> otherwise. If you look at the site you just linked, there are many Greater
> Boston Area towns in that list with lower population density than Lincoln,
> lots of open space, very little commercial base AND* much lower property
> taxes. *None of the towns in the table below are contemplating a $25M
> Community Center.
>
> Note: I have taken the population and density data from the site you
> linked and the average property tax rate is from the Department of Revenue
> https://dlsgateway.dor.state.ma.us/reports/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=AverageSingleTaxBill.SingleFamTaxBill_wRange
>
> 
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 1:04 PM Rich Rosenbaum  wrote:
>
>>
>> There has been a bit of discussion regarding LIncoln's property taxes
>> compared to other towns. One reason taxes may be higher than similar towns
>> is our low housing density.
>>
>> Lincoln has consciously and deliberately limited density with land
>> acquisition, zoning regulations, agricultural easements and more.
>>
>> The result is that there are fewer houses to distribute fixed costs. If
>> you have two similar towns with the same number of miles of road, the less
>> housing-dense town will pay more per family to maintain those roads. The
>> same goes for many other services provided by the town.
>>
>> All of this wonderful open space that we all enjoy is not free.
>>
>> --
>> Here are some statistics from this site
>>  (not
>> sure of the date but I assume it does not change quickly):
>>
>> *TownPopulation / sq. mile*
>> Bedford 926.37
>> Wayland 819.52
>> Sudbury 683.63
>> Weston  664.03
>> Concord 656.11
>> Lincoln 359.11
>>
>> Our limited commercial base is also a factor.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LincolnTalk] on property taxes

[Jennifer Saffran]

Regarding “open space”, I am more familiar with one of these towns—Bolton. 
Bolton has a number of commercial farms and orchards. So, while it appears that 
there is open space, it’s taxable land. I do not know what the tax rate for 
working farms are.  A quick search shows there are at least 20 working farms in 
Bolton. Likewise, Harvard has 19. Therefore, the numbers may not be so 
comparable.

> On Nov 28, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Adam M Hogue  wrote:
> 
> Agreed, this chart shows it the best.  Towns with our population generally do 
> not have a large community center because they do not have the tax base or 
> population to support it.  
> 
> Adam M Hogue
> Cell:  <>(978) 828-6184 
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2022, at 2:12 PM, Karla Gravis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Rich,
>> 
>> While the hypothesis you presented seems reasonable, the facts show 
>> otherwise. If you look at the site you just linked, there are many Greater 
>> Boston Area towns in that list with lower population density than Lincoln, 
>> lots of open space, very little commercial base AND much lower property 
>> taxes. None of the towns in the table below are contemplating a $25M 
>> Community Center. 
>> 
>> Note: I have taken the population and density data from the site you linked 
>> and the average property tax rate is from the Department of Revenue 
>> https://dlsgateway.dor.state.ma.us/reports/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=AverageSingleTaxBill.SingleFamTaxBill_wRange
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 1:04 PM Rich Rosenbaum > > wrote:
>> 
>> There has been a bit of discussion regarding LIncoln's property taxes 
>> compared to other towns. One reason taxes may be higher than similar towns 
>> is our low housing density.
>> 
>> Lincoln has consciously and deliberately limited density with land 
>> acquisition, zoning regulations, agricultural easements and more. 
>> 
>> The result is that there are fewer houses to distribute fixed costs. If you 
>> have two similar towns with the same number of miles of road, the less 
>> housing-dense town will pay more per family to maintain those roads. The 
>> same goes for many other services provided by the town.
>> 
>> All of this wonderful open space that we all enjoy is not free.
>> 
>> Here are some statistics from this site 
>>  (not sure 
>> of the date but I assume it does not change quickly):
>> 
>> TownPopulation / sq. mile
>> Bedford 926.37
>> Wayland 819.52
>> Sudbury 683.63
>> Weston  664.03
>> Concord 656.11
>> Lincoln 359.11
>> 
>> Our limited commercial base is also a factor.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[LincolnTalk] 14 + years cumulatively over 30 years on COA and Minuteman Services board

[Wendy & Lem Kusik]

The intergenerational community center is extremely important to the
Lincoln community in order to continue to service,social service,
recreational, senior needs and children of all ages.
I have seen this COA grow from a very small department in the 1980's to its
current state aiding seniors via Shine,Meals on Wheels, health programs, a
valuable resource to help seniors stay in their homes, recreational and
mental health. The recreation department fills so many needs via exercise
programs for young and old. They both do this in deteriorating buildings,
which if improvements were made still would not really meet the needs of
their programs. As a geriatric social worker at McLeans (20 years), I often
relied on COA to help get services for elderly discharges.
As a mother of two, there was nothing for my children to do after school
once they aged out of Leap. Having a community center combining all these
programs is a must in my humble opinion.
At least approve Wednesdays vote for the town to approve the first step.
Please come and support this vote on Wednesday at 7 at the school.
Many thanks to all who read this. Wendy Kusik
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[LincolnTalk] One the Eve of Giving Tuesday, please consider donating to The METCO Coordinating Committee

[Abigail Adams via Lincoln]

It is the eve of Giving Tuesday, please consider donating to The METCO 
Coordinating Committee, your donations support enriching experiences and 
lasting relationships for students and families.The MCC is a 501(c)(3) 
organization (Tax ID: 27-0726889) - Become a Friend of Lincoln METCO by making 
a tax deductible contribution. 

The MCC is staffed entirely by volunteers so every dollar directly benefits the 
children and our shared community.


- $50 funds transportation for a caregiver to attend an event

- $100 helps fund an after school enrichment activity for Boston and Lincoln 
students

- $325 sends a Boston student to attend the Lincoln Summer Day Camp for a week

- $400 hires a bus to travel between Lincoln and Boston



Click the link to make a donation or make checks payable 
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We appreciate your support and generosity,
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[LincolnTalk] Free Ceiling Fan

[Sherry Haydock]

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This ceiling fan is still available. It has been disassembled and is ready
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Re: [LincolnTalk] FREE kombucha scobies

[Jessica Cooper]

Hi all- thanks for the many responses!  This is a note to say that we have
separated and labeled bags for those who responded in time. We are trying
to be fair, and hope that everyone takes only the bag with their name on
it.  Thanks! :)

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 11:45 AM Jessica Cooper  wrote:

> I am a home brewer of kombucha and have way too many starter cultures
> called a “scoby”. If anyone is interested in taking home a scoby or two
> with starter liquid, email back! Making kombucha at home is also really
> easy, here is a video on what to do once you have the culture:
> [image: hqdefault.jpg]
>
> Simple Kombucha Guide/Homemade Kombucha/Video #1
> 
> youtu.be 
> 
>
>
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> Associate Lecturer,  College of Liberal Arts
> University of Massachusetts, Boston
> 617.287.5640; Work
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[LincolnTalk] A momentary change of focus.

[sarah cannon holden]

The Cocoanut Grove Fire occurred 80 years ago in a Boston Nightclub.  It is
one of the most devastating fires in Boston's history.  Nearly 500 people
died.  They were trapped inside long before exit doors and other
precautions were in place.  I thought that the following very edited
version of one part of that history would be interesting to others in
Lincoln.

Sarah Cannon Holden




In 1943 my father, Bradford Cannon, led the team of surgeons who cared for
the survivors of the Cocoanut Grove fire.

Fifty years later, my brother Laurie was a senior captain with United
Airlines.  The first officer asked Laurie where he was from.

“Boston.”

“Hmm,” said his first officer, “the only person I know of from Boston is a
doctor named Bradford Cannon.”

“Really?  He’s my father.”

“Well, he saved my mother’s life.”

“Yes, when she was 20 years old she was burned at the Cocoanut Grove fire.
Her boyfriend died.  She later married my father.”  He paused.

 “And, my middle name is Bradford – after your dad.”

My father specifically remembered the man’s mother who was very badly
burned.  Ultimately she moved to San Diego.

There was soon to be a medical meeting there.  My dad and my mother, then
in their 80s, bought their tickets and left for San Diego – maybe to attend
the meeting but certainly to see his patient after all these years.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] on property taxes

[Louis Zipes]

It is interesting that the column for 'Single Family Tax Bill as % of
(Home) Value' actually puts us in the middle of the pack statewide. With a
total property value for the entire town worth 1.9 billion (yes, I know
that taxed value always runs behind actual value) maybe someone should buy
out the entire town and take it private. Sarcasm of course. See everyone on
Wednesday night!
[image: image.png]

Top 10 Towns with the highest percentage of tax compared to property values.

[image: image.png]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 2:12 PM Karla Gravis  wrote:

> Hi Rich,
>
> While the hypothesis you presented seems reasonable, the facts show
> otherwise. If you look at the site you just linked, there are many Greater
> Boston Area towns in that list with lower population density than Lincoln,
> lots of open space, very little commercial base AND* much lower property
> taxes. *None of the towns in the table below are contemplating a $25M
> Community Center.
>
> Note: I have taken the population and density data from the site you
> linked and the average property tax rate is from the Department of Revenue
> https://dlsgateway.dor.state.ma.us/reports/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=AverageSingleTaxBill.SingleFamTaxBill_wRange
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 1:04 PM Rich Rosenbaum  wrote:
>
>>
>> There has been a bit of discussion regarding LIncoln's property taxes
>> compared to other towns. One reason taxes may be higher than similar towns
>> is our low housing density.
>>
>> Lincoln has consciously and deliberately limited density with land
>> acquisition, zoning regulations, agricultural easements and more.
>>
>> The result is that there are fewer houses to distribute fixed costs. If
>> you have two similar towns with the same number of miles of road, the less
>> housing-dense town will pay more per family to maintain those roads. The
>> same goes for many other services provided by the town.
>>
>> All of this wonderful open space that we all enjoy is not free.
>>
>> --
>> Here are some statistics from this site
>>  (not
>> sure of the date but I assume it does not change quickly):
>>
>> *TownPopulation / sq. mile*
>> Bedford 926.37
>> Wayland 819.52
>> Sudbury 683.63
>> Weston  664.03
>> Concord 656.11
>> Lincoln 359.11
>>
>> Our limited commercial base is also a factor.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[LincolnTalk] For a break and a little joy!

[Sara Mattes]

A TikTok of undergrads dancing their tails off at the Lynch Family Skatepark 
under I-93. 

Members of Ekstone, Emerson College's K-pop dance group, made Boston Sand & 
Gravel's plant look extra cool as they performed to "Zoo," the raucous hit from 
Korean powerhouse SM Entertainment that invites you to "get wild."





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[LincolnTalk] Ceiling fan is taken with a backup.

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[LincolnTalk] Free Ceiling Fan

[Sherry Haydock]

In excellent condition. Has been disassembled and ready to go.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] on property taxes

[Adam M Hogue]

Agreed, this chart shows it the best.  Towns with our population generally do not have a large community center because they do not have the tax base or population to support it.  Adam M HogueCell: (978) 828-6184On Nov 28, 2022, at 2:12 PM, Karla Gravis  wrote:Hi Rich,While the hypothesis you presented seems reasonable, the facts show otherwise. If you look at the site you just linked, there are many Greater Boston Area towns in that list with lower population density than Lincoln, lots of open space, very little commercial base AND much lower property taxes. None of the towns in the table below are contemplating a $25M Community Center. Note: I have taken the population and density data from the site you linked and the average property tax rate is from the Department of Revenue https://dlsgateway.dor.state.ma.us/reports/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=AverageSingleTaxBill.SingleFamTaxBill_wRangeOn Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 1:04 PM Rich Rosenbaum  wrote:There
 has been a bit of discussion regarding LIncoln's property taxes 
compared to other towns. One reason taxes may be higher than similar 
towns is our low housing density.Lincoln has 
consciously and deliberately limited density with land acquisition, 
zoning regulations, agricultural easements and more. The
 result is that there are fewer houses to distribute fixed costs. If you
 have two similar towns with the same number of miles of road, the less 
housing-dense town will pay more per family to maintain those roads. The
 same goes for many other services provided by the town.All of this wonderful open space that we all enjoy is not free.

Here are some statistics from this site (not sure of the date but I assume it does not change quickly):Town    Population / sq. mileBedford 926.37Wayland 819.52Sudbury 683.63Weston  664.03Concord 656.11Lincoln 359.11Our limited commercial base is also a factor.

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[LincolnTalk] School Project Latest Construction Cost Update

[Garrick Niemiec]

Any idea where current and projected costs are?
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Re: [LincolnTalk] on property taxes

[Karla Gravis]

Hi Rich,

While the hypothesis you presented seems reasonable, the facts show
otherwise. If you look at the site you just linked, there are many Greater
Boston Area towns in that list with lower population density than Lincoln,
lots of open space, very little commercial base AND* much lower property
taxes. *None of the towns in the table below are contemplating a $25M
Community Center.

Note: I have taken the population and density data from the site you linked
and the average property tax rate is from the Department of Revenue
https://dlsgateway.dor.state.ma.us/reports/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=AverageSingleTaxBill.SingleFamTaxBill_wRange

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On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 1:04 PM Rich Rosenbaum  wrote:

>
> There has been a bit of discussion regarding LIncoln's property taxes
> compared to other towns. One reason taxes may be higher than similar towns
> is our low housing density.
>
> Lincoln has consciously and deliberately limited density with land
> acquisition, zoning regulations, agricultural easements and more.
>
> The result is that there are fewer houses to distribute fixed costs. If
> you have two similar towns with the same number of miles of road, the less
> housing-dense town will pay more per family to maintain those roads. The
> same goes for many other services provided by the town.
>
> All of this wonderful open space that we all enjoy is not free.
>
> --
> Here are some statistics from this site
>  (not
> sure of the date but I assume it does not change quickly):
>
> *TownPopulation / sq. mile*
> Bedford 926.37
> Wayland 819.52
> Sudbury 683.63
> Weston  664.03
> Concord 656.11
> Lincoln 359.11
>
> Our limited commercial base is also a factor.
>
>
>
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[LincolnTalk] Christmas at First Parish!

[FPL Communications]

Touch of Christmas Fair
Saturday, December 3 from 10-1pm
Parish House Auditorium, 14 Bedford Road (across from Bemis)

All are welcome to the annual Touch of Christmas!  Homemade holiday crafts, 
evergreen wreaths decorated with natural materials, jewelry, antique and 
collectible treasures, AND more!  Always a delightful festive occasion to 
celebrate the season with holiday joy.

Christmas Tree Lighting
Saturday, December 3 at 4pm
Rainbow Chairs, 4 Bedford Road (across from the library)

Come join us to light the Christmas Tree in front of the church at 4:00 pm on 
Saturday, December 3 after the Touch of Christmas Fair. We’ll get in the mood 
with some holiday carols and enjoy hot chocolate. Santa says he’ll swing by and 
say Hello or maybe Ho Ho Ho!

Christmas Eve Services
Saturday, December 24 at 5pm and 9pm (with special music prelude at 8:30pm)
Sanctuary, 4 Bedford Road
Livestream at https://fplincoln.altarlive.com

5 pm. A service for all ages. Families with younger children are welcome, but 
so are those who want the full Christmas experience before dinnertime. Special 
music, lessons and carols, and a short message. Service led by our co-ministers.

9 pm (special music at 8:30). Candlelight service featuring the First Parish 
choir, special music, and lessons and carols. Service led by our co-ministers.

Help us plan for our Christmas Eve services! If you intend to join us in person 
let us know by taking this brief survey, indicating the number in your group 
and which service you will be attending.

CLICK HERE: https://fplincoln.breezechms.com/form/4c6c35

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Post knee surgery physical therapy

[Linda Crowne]

A truly excellent place is ATI.
I have used the Lexington location.
Staff is exceptionally well trained for all types of PT and is great with
all ages.
They have other locations:
Acton, Wayland, Natick, Framingham, Belmont and Waltham.
They are in other towns, but I only listed those nearest to Lincoln.
Good luck.

Linda Crowne

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 10:57 AM Nancy Constable 
wrote:

> Please share PT places that were successful for you.
>
> Thanks
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Re: [LincolnTalk] community center-your excellent post.

[Kathy Madison via Lincoln]

I don’t believe that Yankee frugality is dead.  

> On Nov 28, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Kathy Madison  wrote:
> 
> Here Here! 
> 
> Until now, I have not commented … but these thoughts below from Elaine and 
> Sara most clearly reflect my own. 
> 
> One additional factor that I”ve not heard expressed: aren’t we assuming a 
> stable national economy with no downturns in sight? Meanwhile, interest rates 
> are hitting both young home owners' mortgages and those on fixed incomes. To 
> max out spending now simply seems most unwise — for everyone. I don't
> 
> Kathy Madison Feinberg
> Concord Road
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Sara Mattes > > wrote:
>> 
>> Elaine,
>> -Just re-read this…cheers, cheers!
>> Thank you Seth and others for bringing up the community center. It’s 
>> something I have been discussing with other youngish seniors (LSRHS class of 
>> 1971)and have a number of concerns.  Although I don’t yet use the senior 
>> senior, and do think one with an elevator is important, I’m not sure how 
>> many older adults in town use it regularly. In my cohort, there is a greater 
>> worry about high property taxes and whether we can afford to continue to pay 
>> them if a community center is built.
>> 
>> “If you build it they will come” 
>> (https://www.lincolntown.org/documentcenter/view/35385 
>> ) Is this true, 
>> particularly with ongoing concerns about covid and availability of classes 
>> and meetings on Zoom?
>> 
>> There are few offerings for adults through the Rec Department. Is that from 
>> lack of space or lack of interest? Most people I know go out of town for 
>> programs.
>> 
>> I’m not happy with the design which appears to have a lot of wasted space in 
>> its “open concept”. With heating prices going up, how much will it cost to 
>> heat this big building?
>> 
>> I also think the world has changed since 2017 when this community center was 
>> first discussed.  I would rather the town spend its money on mixed income 
>> housing, for example, which it needs. And, Lincoln’s older homebound adults 
>> could stay in their homes if they had more services paid for by the town. 
>> This would be a good use of money for seniors.
>> 
>> Lastly, if an expensive community center must be built, can we at the same 
>> time look at allowing more Lincoln homes to build accessory apartments and 
>> backyard cottages? This would help seniors pay their higher taxes, and stay 
>> in their large homes while benefiting non-high income folks looking for 
>> Lincoln housing.
>> 
>> Elaine
>> 
>> All your points and questions are valid, and the questions remained 
>> unanswered.
>> I have repeatedly asked the COA to do some sort of (professional) survey to 
>> figure out what programs would attract you and your peers.
>> The silence, in response, is deafening.
>> They are not frothing coming with those who are actually attending what 
>> programs are offered.
>> I go to an exercise class2X/week-I love it but there are never more than 5 
>> of us there.
>> All this is subsidized by our tax dollars and contributions of the Friends 
>> of the COA.
>> The space in the basement of Bemis is completely unused-now we are told it 
>> is used by organizations that are simply using closets for storage, next to 
>> a boiler.
>> I knwo because I am Pres. Of the Historical Society and am down there to 
>> collect things out of storage.
>> And, numerous people for the Girl Scouts say they have never used that space!
>> So, what are they basing needs and numbers on?
>> 
>> This entire exercise is alarming-divisive and may cost many their ability to 
>> remain in town.
>> We (over) build to serve a population that is forced/elects to move due to 
>> increasing taxes.
>> 
>> And, there is the dodge and weave over operating budgets-new teachers 
>> contracts will require a significant increase due to cost of living.
>> Town offices is going through a run-over and is hiring 2 to replace one.
>> We have to hire to fill the volunteer position Jim Cunningham volunteered 
>> for-AV for every org and entity in town-tapes and recorded everything!
>> COA says it will need an increase of 1.5 FTEs for the new building.
>> 
>> We are now at the upper limit of our budgets, without an over-ride.
>> To fund at level service, going forward, we will need an over-ride which 
>> will be a permanent tax increase.
>> 
>> Why cannot we, at a minimum, hit a pause button to re-evaluate and consider 
>> some new ideas?
>> The money they want to spend now is looking at only one dimension of a 
>> multi-dimensioned issue.
>> 
>> Yikes!
>> Sara
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] community center-your excellent post.

[Kathy Madison via Lincoln]

Here Here! 

Until now, I have not commented … but these thoughts below from Elaine and Sara 
most clearly reflect my own. 

One additional factor that I”ve not heard expressed: aren’t we assuming a 
stable national economy with no downturns in sight? Meanwhile, interest rates 
are hitting both young home owners' mortgages and those on fixed incomes. To 
max out spending now simply seems most unwise — for everyone. I don't 

Kathy Madison Feinberg
Concord Road

> On Nov 28, 2022, at 10:18 AM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> Elaine,
> -Just re-read this…cheers, cheers!
> Thank you Seth and others for bringing up the community center. It’s 
> something I have been discussing with other youngish seniors (LSRHS class of 
> 1971)and have a number of concerns.  Although I don’t yet use the senior 
> senior, and do think one with an elevator is important, I’m not sure how many 
> older adults in town use it regularly. In my cohort, there is a greater worry 
> about high property taxes and whether we can afford to continue to pay them 
> if a community center is built.
> 
> “If you build it they will come” 
> (https://www.lincolntown.org/documentcenter/view/35385 
> ) Is this true, 
> particularly with ongoing concerns about covid and availability of classes 
> and meetings on Zoom?
> 
> There are few offerings for adults through the Rec Department. Is that from 
> lack of space or lack of interest? Most people I know go out of town for 
> programs.
> 
> I’m not happy with the design which appears to have a lot of wasted space in 
> its “open concept”. With heating prices going up, how much will it cost to 
> heat this big building?
> 
> I also think the world has changed since 2017 when this community center was 
> first discussed.  I would rather the town spend its money on mixed income 
> housing, for example, which it needs. And, Lincoln’s older homebound adults 
> could stay in their homes if they had more services paid for by the town. 
> This would be a good use of money for seniors.
> 
> Lastly, if an expensive community center must be built, can we at the same 
> time look at allowing more Lincoln homes to build accessory apartments and 
> backyard cottages? This would help seniors pay their higher taxes, and stay 
> in their large homes while benefiting non-high income folks looking for 
> Lincoln housing.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> All your points and questions are valid, and the questions remained 
> unanswered.
> I have repeatedly asked the COA to do some sort of (professional) survey to 
> figure out what programs would attract you and your peers.
> The silence, in response, is deafening.
> They are not frothing coming with those who are actually attending what 
> programs are offered.
> I go to an exercise class2X/week-I love it but there are never more than 5 of 
> us there.
> All this is subsidized by our tax dollars and contributions of the Friends of 
> the COA.
> The space in the basement of Bemis is completely unused-now we are told it is 
> used by organizations that are simply using closets for storage, next to a 
> boiler.
> I knwo because I am Pres. Of the Historical Society and am down there to 
> collect things out of storage.
> And, numerous people for the Girl Scouts say they have never used that space!
> So, what are they basing needs and numbers on?
> 
> This entire exercise is alarming-divisive and may cost many their ability to 
> remain in town.
> We (over) build to serve a population that is forced/elects to move due to 
> increasing taxes.
> 
> And, there is the dodge and weave over operating budgets-new teachers 
> contracts will require a significant increase due to cost of living.
> Town offices is going through a run-over and is hiring 2 to replace one.
> We have to hire to fill the volunteer position Jim Cunningham volunteered 
> for-AV for every org and entity in town-tapes and recorded everything!
> COA says it will need an increase of 1.5 FTEs for the new building.
> 
> We are now at the upper limit of our budgets, without an over-ride.
> To fund at level service, going forward, we will need an over-ride which will 
> be a permanent tax increase.
> 
> Why cannot we, at a minimum, hit a pause button to re-evaluate and consider 
> some new ideas?
> The money they want to spend now is looking at only one dimension of a 
> multi-dimensioned issue.
> 
> Yikes!
> Sara
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sara Mattes
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Passing Of Esther Braun

[Joan Kimball]

Dear Peter,
Esther was a terrific fifth grade teacher.  She was an especially science
teacjer  Our son was one of her many appreciative students, and we,
appreciative parents.  I remember especially going on a field trip on the
Drumlin and we all--students and parents learned so much from Esther,
geology, solar system, nature in its wholeness.

I enjoyed seeing her at Concord concerts and at Carleton Willard.  She
leaves a great legacy.

Joan Kimball


* --Thich Nhat Hanh*


On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 11:06 AM  wrote:

> My mother, Esther Braun, passed away peacefully and quickly, with many
> family members comforting her, this past Thanksgiving weekend. As many
> longtime Lincoln residents know, she lived in Lincoln’s Browns Wood
> neighborhood and raised her four children with my father, Mort Braun, from
> 1960 to 2001, before she moved to Carleton Willard Village. She was an
> active participant in Town affairs, including the 1990’s school building
> committee, but she was most well known as a Smith School teacher in the
> 1970’s and 1980’s. She and Susan Reece (late mother of Sarah Bishop)
> team-taught 50 fourth and fifth graders in a single classroom, which many
> knew simply as “Braun Reece”. My mother taught science and math, often
> devising her own materials and approaches. One of those efforts led her to
> publish a book “The First Peoples of The Northeast”, which is still used in
> schools and available in libraries and museum stores. A more detailed
> obituary article and memorial event will follow. I just wanted to get the
> word out to fellow Lincolnites who might want to know.
>
>
>
> Peter Braun
>
> 781-249-0071
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[LincolnTalk] on property taxes

[Rich Rosenbaum]

There has been a bit of discussion regarding LIncoln's property taxes
compared to other towns. One reason taxes may be higher than similar towns
is our low housing density.

Lincoln has consciously and deliberately limited density with land
acquisition, zoning regulations, agricultural easements and more.

The result is that there are fewer houses to distribute fixed costs. If you
have two similar towns with the same number of miles of road, the less
housing-dense town will pay more per family to maintain those roads. The
same goes for many other services provided by the town.

All of this wonderful open space that we all enjoy is not free.

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 (not
sure of the date but I assume it does not change quickly):

*TownPopulation / sq. mile*
Bedford 926.37
Wayland 819.52
Sudbury 683.63
Weston  664.03
Concord 656.11
Lincoln 359.11

Our limited commercial base is also a factor.
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[LincolnTalk] RISD Pre-College Program Overview | RISD Pre-Collegiate Programs

[Carol Ryan]

This is great !

https://precollege.risd.edu/program-overview/


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Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center

[Mary Crowe]

I agree with you Ken. Well said.

Mary Crowe

On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 9:55 PM Ken Hurd  wrote:

> Hello LincolnTalkers,
> I wish to applaud all those who have taken the time to revisit and
> question the financial pros and cons of building a community center at this
> time, and thanks particularly to those who have recently commented on the
> advisability of building it at the Hartwell site.
>
> I fully support building a new facility, but it has long been my opinion
> that such a major investment by the town should be deployed where it is
> most needed - namely in the Lincoln Station area.  For more than ten years
> since Town Meeting approved the Comprehensive Long Range Plan, in which the
> revitalization of Lincoln Station was overwhelmingly one of the highest
> priorities, the area has lain dormant and in serious need of a catalyst to
> jumpstart its transformation into the compact, vital, walkable village
> center that was a stated goal at the time.  A community center in such a
> location would be the equivalent of an anchor store in a retail setting,
> and by virtue of attracting more people on a regular basis, it would create
> more opportunities for a clustered cross-current of activities spawning
> greater social interaction.
>
> In my opinion, it would constitute the classic suburban planning error to
> create a new center that stands alone like the suburban mall accessible
> only by car.  In addition, because of school protocols, there would be very
> limited inter-generational co-mingling until after school hours, if at
> all.  And, even if there weren’t a greater  awareness about the effects of
> climate change, wouldn’t it make far more sense to locate a community
> center where there are already other crucial services such as the post
> office, grocery store, cleaners, a cafe and restaurant, etc.?
>
> If the vote for more funding fails at the Special Town Meeting next
> Wednesday evening, November 30th, I urge residents, the Selects and the
> Planning Board to seriously reconsider Lincoln Station as the location that
> would best serve the interests and greater good of the town going forward.
>
> Thank you for all those who have weighed in on this discussion.
>
> Respectfully,
> Ken Hurd
>
> Lifting the Human Spirit by Design
> 781-259-3300
> 781-259-8900 cell
> www.keha.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2022, at 1:02 PM, John F. Carr  wrote:
>
> I just skimmed over the 2015 report which is the foundation for what
> we are discussing.
>
> That report tried to steer people away from the Lincoln Station area.
> One of the six options was to build on the commuter rail parking lot
> and include an underground parking garage (the most expensive kind of
> parking) to make up for lost parking.  Since then COVID killed
> commuter rail.  The parking lot is just another town-owned vacant lot.
>
> When you take the cost of an underground garage out of the picture,
> the commuter rail parking lot becomes the cheapest building site (in
> 2015 dollars, and including the cost of renovating Hartwell facilities
> that don't move).  It has the advantage of being near shops, Codman,
> and Lincoln Woods.  We might end up with a community center rather
> than a place one drives to and drives home from.
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:16 AM Margaret P Flint
>  wrote:
>
>
> How about this idea for the Community Center: the building at the Mall at
> Lincoln Station now occupied by Something Special and Lincoln Dog Training.
>
> Several things in its favor:
>
>-It is across the street from Ryan Estates Greenridge, and adjacent
> to Lincoln Woods.
>
>-There are two restaurants adjacent which would eliminate the need
> for a food preparation area, a significant cost.
>
>-Also, there is a grocery store right there, which would allow
> users to double up on car trips.
>
>-There is ample parking.
>
> There are two downsides that I can think of.  I’m sure there are more.
>
>- Something Special would need to move.  But I see a for rent sign
> across the street.  Perhaps the cost of moving Something Special could be
> built into the cost of renovating for a Community Center.  The dog training
> facility is also   there, but it is my understanding that most
> of that work takes place outside the building.
>
>-The Rural Land Foundation would lose rent revenue.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
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Re: [LincolnTalk] FREE kombucha scobies

[Jessica Cooper]

Hello- we have given away all the scobies- thanks for the quick response
everyone!

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 11:45 AM Jessica Cooper  wrote:

> I am a home brewer of kombucha and have way too many starter cultures
> called a “scoby”. If anyone is interested in taking home a scoby or two
> with starter liquid, email back! Making kombucha at home is also really
> easy, here is a video on what to do once you have the culture:
> [image: hqdefault.jpg]
>
> Simple Kombucha Guide/Homemade Kombucha/Video #1
> 
> youtu.be 
> 
>
>
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> University of Massachusetts, Boston
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> 
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[LincolnTalk] School budget presentation Thursday

[Susan Taylor]

Presentation of the Lincoln Schools Preliminary Fiscal Year 2024 Budget and an 
update on our Superintendent Search highlight Thursday evening's School 
Committee meeting. 

Members of the public can watch live streaming via Zoom Webinar 

 or on local access TV channels 8 and 13 beginning at 6 pm.

Anyone interested in participating in the Public Comment portion of this 
meeting, please email john.a.maclach...@gmail.com 
 anytime prior to 3pm the day of the 
meeting and you will be sent log-in instructions. To see the full Agenda click 
here. 

Susan Hands Taylor
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Passing Of Esther Braun

[pzbraun]

Thank you, Sarah, and to many others who have responded to my personal email 
address, including some did not know my mother. I won’t be able to respond to 
each of you individually, but please know that your thoughts are deeply 
appreciated. 

 

From: Sara Mattes  
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 11:44 AM
To: pzbr...@gmail.com
Cc: Lincoln Talk 
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Passing Of Esther Braun

 

Thank you for posting this, Peter.

I know I join many, many others in expressing our condolences  to you and your 
family.

 

Esther was a gift to the town.

In addition to all the students who were enriched by her teaching and her 
contributions to our understanding of who came before us, her great legacy is 
her family, who continues to serve our community.

 

In sympathy,

Sara Mattes

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On Nov 28, 2022, at 11:06 AM, pzbr...@gmail.com   
wrote:

 

My mother, Esther Braun, passed away peacefully and quickly, with many family 
members comforting her, this past Thanksgiving weekend. As many longtime 
Lincoln residents know, she lived in Lincoln’s Browns Wood neighborhood and 
raised her four children with my father, Mort Braun, from 1960 to 2001, before 
she moved to Carleton Willard Village. She was an active participant in Town 
affairs, including the 1990’s school building committee, but she was most well 
known as a Smith School teacher in the 1970’s and 1980’s. She and Susan Reece 
(late mother of Sarah Bishop) team-taught 50 fourth and fifth graders in a 
single classroom, which many knew simply as “Braun Reece”. My mother taught 
science and math, often devising her own materials and approaches. One of those 
efforts led her to publish a book “The First Peoples of The Northeast”, which 
is still used in schools and available in libraries and museum stores. A more 
detailed obituary article and memorial event will follow. I just wanted to get 
the word out to fellow Lincolnites who might want to know.

 

Peter Braun

781-249-0071

 

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[LincolnTalk] FREE kombucha scobies

[Jessica Cooper]

I am a home brewer of kombucha and have way too many starter cultures called a “scoby”. If anyone is interested in taking home a scoby or two with starter liquid, email back! Making kombucha at home is also really easy, here is a video on what to do once you have the culture:Simple Kombucha Guide/Homemade Kombucha/Video #1youtu.be-- Jessica Cooper, SopranoAssociate Lecturer,  College of Liberal ArtsUniversity of Massachusetts, Boston617.287.5640; Work 617.840.3921; CellEmail: jessica.coope...@umb.eduwww.BostonPurcell.org-- 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Passing Of Esther Braun

[Sara Mattes]

Thank you for posting this, Peter.
I know I join many, many others in expressing our condolences  to you and your 
family.

Esther was a gift to the town.
In addition to all the students who were enriched by her teaching and her 
contributions to our understanding of who came before us, her great legacy is 
her family, who continues to serve our community.

In sympathy,
Sara Mattes
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> On Nov 28, 2022, at 11:06 AM, pzbr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> My mother, Esther Braun, passed away peacefully and quickly, with many family 
> members comforting her, this past Thanksgiving weekend. As many longtime 
> Lincoln residents know, she lived in Lincoln’s Browns Wood neighborhood and 
> raised her four children with my father, Mort Braun, from 1960 to 2001, 
> before she moved to Carleton Willard Village. She was an active participant 
> in Town affairs, including the 1990’s school building committee, but she was 
> most well known as a Smith School teacher in the 1970’s and 1980’s. She and 
> Susan Reece (late mother of Sarah Bishop) team-taught 50 fourth and fifth 
> graders in a single classroom, which many knew simply as “Braun Reece”. My 
> mother taught science and math, often devising her own materials and 
> approaches. One of those efforts led her to publish a book “The First Peoples 
> of The Northeast”, which is still used in schools and available in libraries 
> and museum stores. A more detailed obituary article and memorial event will 
> follow. I just wanted to get the word out to fellow Lincolnites who might 
> want to know.
>  
> Peter Braun
> 781-249-0071
>  
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[LincolnTalk] ISO baby crib and infant items

[Linda McMillan]

Hi LincolnTalk,
My daughter is having a baby and we are in search of a crib, a "Pack 'n
Play" , and other infant items.

Thank you!
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[LincolnTalk] A vote for the Community Center

[Lis Herbert]

Hi Neighbors,

I am hoping that you already have plans to *attend Town Meeting this
Wednesday night at 7 p.m. to vote YES to advance a decade of work to build
a Community Center for Lincoln*. If you don't, I hope I can convince you to
come.

Four years ago, many of us poured a lot of energy into ensuring that a new
school would finally be built in Lincoln. If you attended those forums and
meetings, and read the discussions online, you will likely remember that a
significant number of older Lincolnites agreed to support the school
building project in exchange -- in some cases quite explicitly -- for
future support for the Community Center when it became clear that both
would not be approved and built at the same time.

*They said, basically, we will invest in the future of education in
Lincoln, in a building that we may never step foot in, apart from Town
Meeting, if you promise to make a smaller investment in an
intergenerational Community Center that you will surely, at some point in
your lifetime, and hopefully with some frequency, enjoy.*

Communities that invest in public infrastructure, especially people-focused
infrastructure, are stronger, more resilient, happier places to live. And
there is no better example of the power of collective investment, energy
and ideas than what has taken shape on the school campus. If you haven't
been to see it, I would encourage you to at least walk the perimeter during
a school day, and see how transformative it is, how happy the kids and
their teachers are, and how proud we should all be that this is where the
children of Lincoln get to learn, and that we have invested in this,
together.

There are, to be sure, organizations in town that bring people together at
different times of the year for specific events -- and yet these are, if we
are being honest, few and far between. They're not casual, easy things to
pull off, they aren't spontaneous, you can't always simply stop by, on a
whim.

This is an important vote, for a comparatively small amount of money, that
will allow the work of the committee to move forward. This is not a vote to
borrow $25 million, or a vote to approve a tax increase. This is a vote to
advance the process, for $325,000.

*Years of inaction on the school taught us that if we vote to kick the can
down the road, even for a couple of years, we should take that $325,000,
and probably a lot more, and just light it on fire. *I don't think there is
anything we can be more sure of, with respect to the numbers.  Voting no
also means waiting a long time before we have something concrete to vote on
again, and a decade of work and community outreach will evaporate. The
Council on Aging will be stuck at Bemis Hall, the Hartwell pods will
continue to deteriorate, and we will be back at square one.

I have faith in the committee: they are taxpayers who have paid for and
invested in the school themselves, and who want the best for the town. They
know, as well as you and I do, that if their proposal is unpalatable it
will be voted down. Please let's give them a chance.

Thank you,
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center Studies

[Dennis Picker]

The 2010 Facilities Coordinating Committee report cited by Steve Gladstone
includes the following as part of its key recommendations:

"* Designate “booking coordinators” for space on the school campus and at
Town Offices. Publish and make available simple policies and procedures for
reserving meeting space, as well as lists of alternative spaces around
Town. Educate user groups about the process.

* Encourage boards and committees to lead by example in choosing under[1]used
spaces (Library vault room, Public Safety training room, Pierce House) for
meetings."


I would only add that the list of under-used available spaces that they
mention is incomplete.  The booking coordinator concept could be extended
to include not only school campus and Town Offices, but the library, Pierce
House, Bemis, and perhaps non-town properties such as the Stone Church.


I do not by any means claim that better utilization of existing spaces
solves all the issues.  I do claim that it can be a useful part of the
solution.


Then, starting with the 2012 Community Center feasibility study of 2012,
all of the subsequent reports are biased towards the concept of a single
facility that accommodates parks/recreation and COA/human resources all
together.  For example, the 2012 report includes a table comparing various
potential sites.  It mentions that Wells Rd would require new
construction.  That is correct if the objective is a single facility for
all the needs.  It is not correct if we explore the potentials for
addressing the real needs while not _requiring_ that everything be
co-located in one building.


The 2012 feasibility study report includes the charge given to the
committee by the selectboard.  That charge included  (caps for emphasis are
added by me):

"* Review the benefits and challenges of co‐locating SOME OR ALL  of the
departments’ programs in ONE OR MORE facilities.


* Assess the benefits and challenges of relocating SOME OR ALL programs and
services to ONE OR MORE EXISITING town and/or private facilities."


I do not see evidence that the 2012 report fulfilled the charge.  The
subsequent reports did not deviate from the direction set by the 2012
report.


All the well-intentioned intelligent people who served on all the
committees over the years on this topic, and who put in a lot of time, seem
to have been inherently biased against considering options that are not a
single facility that includes everything.


I would add that those well-intentioned committees did not indicate to me
that they carefully distinguished between wants and needs.  I agree that
"doing nothing" is not an option, but we are being asked to "do everything."


Dennis Picker



On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 10:16 AM Steve Gladstone 
wrote:

> Dear all,
> There have been a large number of intelligent, insightful and sentient
> people on multiple committees who have invested a large amount of time and
> effort over many years studying all aspects of a potential community center
> for our town.
>
> Please review their reports via the links below and *PLEASE DO* come to
> vote at the Special Town Meeting this Wednesday, November 30th at 7:00 PM
> in the Donaldson Auditorium/Todd Lecture Hall at the Lincoln School.
>
> Facilities Coordinating Committee 2010:
>
> http://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/155/FCC-Committee-final-report-072910?bidId=
>
> Community Center Feasibility Study: 2012
>
> http://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/27695/CCFC-Report_Final-Rev-7-6-2012-3?bidId=
>
> Community Center Study Committee:
>
> http://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/27696/Lincoln-Community-Center-Final-Report-2-2-15-Compressed?bidId=
>
> Campus Master Plan Committee 2016:
>
> http://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/14133/Final-Report-With-Links?bidId=
>
> Community Center Preliminary Planning and Design Committee 2018:
>
> http://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/35628/Lincoln-CCPPDC-Report-07-12-18-digital
>
> With sincere regards,
> Steve Gladstone
>
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Re: [LincolnTalk] community center-your excellent post.

[Carol Ryan]

Agree !

Carol R

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 28, 2022, at 10:19 AM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> Elaine,
> -Just re-read this…cheers, cheers!
> Thank you Seth and others for bringing up the community center. It’s 
> something I have been discussing with other youngish seniors (LSRHS class of 
> 1971)and have a number of concerns.  Although I don’t yet use the senior 
> senior, and do think one with an elevator is important, I’m not sure how many 
> older adults in town use it regularly. In my cohort, there is a greater worry 
> about high property taxes and whether we can afford to continue to pay them 
> if a community center is built.
> 
> “If you build it they will come” 
> (https://www.lincolntown.org/documentcenter/view/35385) Is this true, 
> particularly with ongoing concerns about covid and availability of classes 
> and meetings on Zoom?
> 
> There are few offerings for adults through the Rec Department. Is that from 
> lack of space or lack of interest? Most people I know go out of town for 
> programs.
> 
> I’m not happy with the design which appears to have a lot of wasted space in 
> its “open concept”. With heating prices going up, how much will it cost to 
> heat this big building?
> 
> I also think the world has changed since 2017 when this community center was 
> first discussed.  I would rather the town spend its money on mixed income 
> housing, for example, which it needs. And, Lincoln’s older homebound adults 
> could stay in their homes if they had more services paid for by the town. 
> This would be a good use of money for seniors.
> 
> Lastly, if an expensive community center must be built, can we at the same 
> time look at allowing more Lincoln homes to build accessory apartments and 
> backyard cottages? This would help seniors pay their higher taxes, and stay 
> in their large homes while benefiting non-high income folks looking for 
> Lincoln housing.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> All your points and questions are valid, and the questions remained 
> unanswered.
> I have repeatedly asked the COA to do some sort of (professional) survey to 
> figure out what programs would attract you and your peers.
> The silence, in response, is deafening.
> They are not frothing coming with those who are actually attending what 
> programs are offered.
> I go to an exercise class2X/week-I love it but there are never more than 5 of 
> us there.
> All this is subsidized by our tax dollars and contributions of the Friends of 
> the COA.
> The space in the basement of Bemis is completely unused-now we are told it is 
> used by organizations that are simply using closets for storage, next to a 
> boiler.
> I knwo because I am Pres. Of the Historical Society and am down there to 
> collect things out of storage.
> And, numerous people for the Girl Scouts say they have never used that space!
> So, what are they basing needs and numbers on?
> 
> This entire exercise is alarming-divisive and may cost many their ability to 
> remain in town.
> We (over) build to serve a population that is forced/elects to move due to 
> increasing taxes.
> 
> And, there is the dodge and weave over operating budgets-new teachers 
> contracts will require a significant increase due to cost of living.
> Town offices is going through a run-over and is hiring 2 to replace one.
> We have to hire to fill the volunteer position Jim Cunningham volunteered 
> for-AV for every org and entity in town-tapes and recorded everything!
> COA says it will need an increase of 1.5 FTEs for the new building.
> 
> We are now at the upper limit of our budgets, without an over-ride.
> To fund at level service, going forward, we will need an over-ride which will 
> be a permanent tax increase.
> 
> Why cannot we, at a minimum, hit a pause button to re-evaluate and consider 
> some new ideas?
> The money they want to spend now is looking at only one dimension of a 
> multi-dimensioned issue.
> 
> Yikes!
> Sara
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> 
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[LincolnTalk] Passing Of Esther Braun

[pzbraun]

My mother, Esther Braun, passed away peacefully and quickly, with many
family members comforting her, this past Thanksgiving weekend. As many
longtime Lincoln residents know, she lived in Lincoln's Browns Wood
neighborhood and raised her four children with my father, Mort Braun, from
1960 to 2001, before she moved to Carleton Willard Village. She was an
active participant in Town affairs, including the 1990's school building
committee, but she was most well known as a Smith School teacher in the
1970's and 1980's. She and Susan Reece (late mother of Sarah Bishop)
team-taught 50 fourth and fifth graders in a single classroom, which many
knew simply as "Braun Reece". My mother taught science and math, often
devising her own materials and approaches. One of those efforts led her to
publish a book "The First Peoples of The Northeast", which is still used in
schools and available in libraries and museum stores. A more detailed
obituary article and memorial event will follow. I just wanted to get the
word out to fellow Lincolnites who might want to know.

 

Peter Braun

781-249-0071

 

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[LincolnTalk] Wednesday's Special Town Meeting

[Elder, Peggy]

Good morning,

If you would like to watch the Special Town Meeting, please use the link below 
my signature.

This is a Zoom Webinar link.  There will be no Moderator and this has been set 
up so that residents can watch the meeting live.  If you wish to participate in 
the meeting, you must attend in person.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me.

Take care,

Peggy Elder
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the Select Board
And Town Administrator
Town of Lincoln
* Direct 781-259-2601
* Email eld...@lincolntown.org

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[LincolnTalk] Post knee surgery physical therapy

[Nancy Constable]

Please share PT places that were successful for you.

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[LincolnTalk] ISO dog crate and playpen

[David G]

Hi Fellow LIncolnites and Dog Lovers

We are adopting a dog next weekend -- 4 month old puppy at this point and
wondered if anyone has a crate, playpen or carrying type crate that you no
longer need.
We would appreciate it.

thanks,
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Re: [LincolnTalk] community center-your excellent post.

[Sara Mattes]

Elaine,
-Just re-read this…cheers, cheers!
Thank you Seth and others for bringing up the community center. It’s something 
I have been discussing with other youngish seniors (LSRHS class of 1971)and 
have a number of concerns.  Although I don’t yet use the senior senior, and do 
think one with an elevator is important, I’m not sure how many older adults in 
town use it regularly. In my cohort, there is a greater worry about high 
property taxes and whether we can afford to continue to pay them if a community 
center is built.

“If you build it they will come” 
(https://www.lincolntown.org/documentcenter/view/35385) Is this true, 
particularly with ongoing concerns about covid and availability of classes and 
meetings on Zoom?

There are few offerings for adults through the Rec Department. Is that from 
lack of space or lack of interest? Most people I know go out of town for 
programs.

I’m not happy with the design which appears to have a lot of wasted space in 
its “open concept”. With heating prices going up, how much will it cost to heat 
this big building?

I also think the world has changed since 2017 when this community center was 
first discussed.  I would rather the town spend its money on mixed income 
housing, for example, which it needs. And, Lincoln’s older homebound adults 
could stay in their homes if they had more services paid for by the town. This 
would be a good use of money for seniors.

Lastly, if an expensive community center must be built, can we at the same time 
look at allowing more Lincoln homes to build accessory apartments and backyard 
cottages? This would help seniors pay their higher taxes, and stay in their 
large homes while benefiting non-high income folks looking for Lincoln housing.

Elaine

All your points and questions are valid, and the questions remained unanswered.
I have repeatedly asked the COA to do some sort of (professional) survey to 
figure out what programs would attract you and your peers.
The silence, in response, is deafening.
They are not frothing coming with those who are actually attending what 
programs are offered.
I go to an exercise class2X/week-I love it but there are never more than 5 of 
us there.
All this is subsidized by our tax dollars and contributions of the Friends of 
the COA.
The space in the basement of Bemis is completely unused-now we are told it is 
used by organizations that are simply using closets for storage, next to a 
boiler.
I knwo because I am Pres. Of the Historical Society and am down there to 
collect things out of storage.
And, numerous people for the Girl Scouts say they have never used that space!
So, what are they basing needs and numbers on?

This entire exercise is alarming-divisive and may cost many their ability to 
remain in town.
We (over) build to serve a population that is forced/elects to move due to 
increasing taxes.

And, there is the dodge and weave over operating budgets-new teachers contracts 
will require a significant increase due to cost of living.
Town offices is going through a run-over and is hiring 2 to replace one.
We have to hire to fill the volunteer position Jim Cunningham volunteered 
for-AV for every org and entity in town-tapes and recorded everything!
COA says it will need an increase of 1.5 FTEs for the new building.

We are now at the upper limit of our budgets, without an over-ride.
To fund at level service, going forward, we will need an over-ride which will 
be a permanent tax increase.

Why cannot we, at a minimum, hit a pause button to re-evaluate and consider 
some new ideas?
The money they want to spend now is looking at only one dimension of a 
multi-dimensioned issue.

Yikes!
Sara








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[LincolnTalk] Community Center Studies

[Steve Gladstone]

Dear all,
There have been a large number of intelligent, insightful and sentient
people on multiple committees who have invested a large amount of time and
effort over many years studying all aspects of a potential community center
for our town.

Please review their reports via the links below and *PLEASE DO* come to
vote at the Special Town Meeting this Wednesday, November 30th at 7:00 PM
in the Donaldson Auditorium/Todd Lecture Hall at the Lincoln School.

Facilities Coordinating Committee 2010:
http://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/155/FCC-Committee-final-report-072910?bidId=

Community Center Feasibility Study: 2012
http://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/27695/CCFC-Report_Final-Rev-7-6-2012-3?bidId=

Community Center Study Committee:
http://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/27696/Lincoln-Community-Center-Final-Report-2-2-15-Compressed?bidId=

Campus Master Plan Committee 2016:
http://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/14133/Final-Report-With-Links?bidId=

Community Center Preliminary Planning and Design Committee 2018:
http://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/35628/Lincoln-CCPPDC-Report-07-12-18-digital

With sincere regards,
Steve Gladstone
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Re: [LincolnTalk] The Exceptionally American Problem of Rising Roadway Deaths

[John F. Carr]

This story is published a few times a year with the details changed.
It's a perennial like "people will drive around holiday time".  A lot
of it does not apply to Massachusetts, more to the South with its wide
pedestrian-eating boulevards that turn a daily stroll into a game of
Frogger.

Part of what does apply here relates to the perverse incentives of regulation.

In the 1990s American car makers offered us a product that looked like
a big car but was legally classified as a truck, meaning it did not
have to meet safety or fuel economy standards set for cars.  That was
the now-ubiquitous SUV.  I recommend Malcolm Gladwell's "Big and Bad"
for a look at the state of affairs 20 years ago.  SUVs are no longer
trucks, but the incentives to go big remain.

Last winter a story made the rounds about the Postal Service buying
bigger trucks than it needed. USPS, like car buyers, is following the
incentives.  Trucks over 8,500 pounds don't have to meet stricter
standards for smaller trucks.   To burn a gallon of gas in a 5,000
pound truck is villainous, but to burn the same gallon in a 9,000
pound vehicle is virtuous.

A car gets no credit for having good visibility or handling, allowing
the driver to avoid a collision.  A car gets no blame for huge blind
spots.  The ideal car, from the point of view of regulators and
reviewers, would be a 26,000 pound tank with heavy armor and a tiny
vision slit.  (Over 26,000 pounds you need a CDL to drive it.)  It
would constantly be crushing people and things, but oh the star
ratings for crash safety.

Visibility is important because a lot of what gets people killed in
urban environments is lack of situational awareness.  Can you see the
pedestrian crossing the street parallel to you?  In a convertible with
the top down, yes.  In the cab of a semi, no.  But there is no "star"
system for cars you can see out of.

We could imagine taking away the quota system for fleet average fuel
economy and let the price of gas drive people in the right direction.
And imagine what would happen if we had European-level gas prices
instead of a complicated formula of taxes and fines which mostly don't
show up as line items in the sticker price.  Complaints about gas
prices are about the only thing that can scare a member of our state
legislature.

John Carr

On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 1:36 PM John Mendelson  wrote:
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> The Exceptionally American Problem of Rising Roadway Deaths
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> https://nyti.ms/3i6DS8Q
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