Re: [LincolnTalk] bluebirds

[Mary Crowe]

I have barn swallows and English sparrows nesting in my barn I try to take
Down sparrow nests before they lay eggs  and  so far the barn swallows have
prevailed  and I have 6 pairs at the moment. I have had sparrows take over.
My bluebird house however. How do you keep them out of the house?

On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 6:23 PM Ginny Lemire via Lincoln <
lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:

> I've seen, emailed and/or talked with several people who either want to
> start to monitor and assist blue birds already in their yard or wishing to
> create an environment for blue birds.
>
> Some of you have said thar you have English sparrows, Some people have a
> open barn where English sparrows nest and reproduce,  This is not a place
> to try to raise blue birds. The English sparrow will not tolerate any other
> bird attempting to nest in a nearby box or cavity.  The English sparrow
> will enter the blue bird box and peck him/her to death. The English sparrow
> is not a native bird and can be killed in the USA,
>
> It seems to me that if you are not able to remove the English Sparrow from
> your environment you should not encourage blue birds.  There are ways of
> keeping English sparrows out of the blue birds boxes using trapes.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LincolnTalk] FREE Shorty Wetsuit

[Bryan Doo]

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Fifty years later, one of those 7th graders , Peter Thomson, has tracked
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[LincolnTalk] bluebirds

[Ginny Lemire via Lincoln]

I've seen, emailed and/or talked with several people who either want to start 
to monitor and assist blue birds already in their yard or wishing to create an 
environment for blue birds. 
Some of you have said thar you have English sparrows, Some people have a open 
barn where English sparrows nest and reproduce,  This is not a place to try to 
raise blue birds. The English sparrow will not tolerate any other bird 
attempting to nest in a nearby box or cavity.  The English sparrow will enter 
the blue bird box and peck him/her to death. The English sparrow is not a 
native bird and can be killed in the USA,
It seems to me that if you are not able to remove the English Sparrow from your 
environment you should not encourage blue birds.  There are ways of keeping 
English sparrows out of the blue birds boxes using trapes.



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[LincolnTalk] FREE Shorty Wetsuit

[Margo Fisher-Martin]

Hi,
Never worn. Small/ medium unisex. Neck diameter about 7 inches. Length 37”
Waist is around 30. Material stretches.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] INF: CCBC Forum Opinion

[Scott Clary]

Thank you Seth for your time and effort preparing such an astute and
insightful analysis.

I have been dealing with a very similar situation in Chatham where they
also have been going back and forth on a new COA building for the past
several years. And this back and forth included the consideration of
multiple locations with very similar arguments that I'm hearing here in
Lincoln. The main difference being, the Chatham building will be solely for
coa, where they already have a community and Rec Center and office space
for such in an old, "repurposed" school building.

 The building they are proposing is 10,995 square feet at a cost of
$10,667,994, roughly $10,000 per square foot when it's all said and done.
Very similar numbers to the Lincoln proposal. The primary difference here
is that Chatham has a year-round population of 6500 which balloons to
30,000 in the warm months and significantly more housing units with a
median value quite a bit higher than Lincoln giving them a much much larger
tax base. The select board had unanimously supported the location and
building, however, at town meeting last week, after two votes, both came
back one vote shy of two-thirds majority.

Just some food for thought.

Kind Regards,

Scott Clary
617-968-5769
Oak Knoll

Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors

On Tue, May 9, 2023, 10:33 AM Kathy Madison via Lincoln <
lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:

> Thank you, Seth for outlining the situation in excellent detail.
>
> From what I’ve heard around town, the community center train has indeed
> left the station. Prior assumptions have taken the lead. And that is why so
> many folks here have complained about the recent survey, which was not a
> survey, but rather a “weigh in on what we’ve already decided” document.
>
> I’m not against the idea of a CC with space for programs. My son was once
> in the LEAP program, and I agree that space for the program would be well
> suited to a CC…. Especially given the location that’s been decided upon.
>
> However, especially given costs and these economic times, our little town
> desperately needs more flexibility and intelligent discernment regarding
> planning…. In fact, I’m wondering why we don’t still have a community
> center PLANNING committee. To have a building committee does feed into the
> “done deal” narrative.
>
> If there can’t be more reasonable approach, we may find that the whole CC
> building plan will be voted down entirely.
> It may be the only solution.
>
> Kathy Madison
> 781-259-1764
>
> On May 9, 2023, at 8:54 AM, Seth Rosen  wrote:
>
> Chris, the last substantive needs analysis was completed 5 years ago.  In
> my business, we don't assume the work we did 5 years ago is still
> relevant today - why would we do so here?  The world is different, the
> constraints are different, the availability of alternative spaces is
> different, the decisions are different.
>
> We can't talk about new ideas, because we don't have an "investigative"
> committee.  We have a CCBC... a community center *BUILDING* committee.
> That's what they want to do... build a community center.  I am simply
> suggesting that's not what we should do.
>
> Now folks will almost certainly chime in and say "we are doing a revised
> needs assessment right now as part of the building process."  Not really...
> because we've started with the assumption that we NEED a new building, and
> we are just figuring out how big to make it and how much it should cost.  I
> think we should start with the assumption that we have a series of problems
> that need to be solved and a series of resource constraints to content with.
>
> I really encourage people to look at what the CCBC themselves have
> posted most recently
> .
> The aspirations have now been "scaled down" from 30,000 square feet (2018)
> to 25,000 square feet (today).  Wow. Let's take a peak at all of the things
> we absolutely "need" that are included in this plan.
>
> 3,200 square feet for PRD and COA admin, including what appears to
> be eight (8) private offices.  And this is just admin, no programming.
>
> 
>
> We are currently thinking about building 8,750 square feet of new space,
> including a room with a piano and a stage.
>
> 
>
> Now I can sense what might be concerning some folks where will the
> piano be stored when it is not in use in the 900 square foot piano room?
> We have 120 square feet for that, not to worry.
>
> 
>
> Interestingly the only thing that is undersized is LEAP (our after school
> program).  Which actually needs more space.  In theory, LEAP could share
> some of these spaces... but as a parent of two LEAP kids, I don't think you
> are going to like what the spaces look like after our kids are done with
> them from 3pm to 6pm every single day.  Fortunately, LEAP does not need
> "Class A" office space.  What they need is two

[LincolnTalk] Insect ID

[dgloew--- via Lincoln]

Thanks, Seltzer, for taking the time to respond to my question regarding 
Identification of the insect permanently embedded in my recently delivered new 
refrigerator.  In the same way that appliances are exchanged when delivered 
with exterior damage, the seller is exchanging this one and the panel with the 
embedded insect will likely be replaced.
Davida

Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Monday, May 8, 2023, 4:22 PM, Seltzer  wrote:

Hi there,
When one considers the environmental impact of getting an entirely new 
refrigerator because of an encased insect in some plastic, it seems perhaps 
overkill. We are all downstream


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[LincolnTalk] NOT QUITE FREE: Lots and lots of legal-sized file folders and redwells

[Sasha Golden]

I have at least two hundred UNUSED legal size files and lots of legal-size
redwells (which hold groups of files).

I will "sell" them to anyone who agrees to give me a check for $25 or more
made out to SVdP (St. Vincent de Paul) Food Pantry of Lincoln and Weston.
You get a tax break and I get these things out of my basement. It's a
win-win!
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Re: [LincolnTalk] INF: CCBC Forum Opinion

[Bob Kupperstein]

Your comments on the community center are well taken, but can we leave out
the right-wing propaganda?   Including false and debatable allegations
undermines credibility.

Thanks,

-Bob

On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 8:26 PM llas902551--- via Lincoln <
lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:

> About your doubts about your increase in home taxes:I think you all voted
> for the school, that now is not performing as intended for the incredible
> price tag!! Also the present US government  is adding tons of taxes and
> inflationary policies.
>
> It is not the fault of the senior grp who need services, and maybe you
> don't need any services at this time, but as you age you'd be glad to have
> the wonderful COA& HS that we have now. It is really an expense and
> inconvenience, as well as incredibly difficult to have many places to plan
> for and supplying paid staff. There are not that many spots for town
> work-off as COA&HS CONTINUE TO offer all the programs and help to seniors
> that COA&HS offers now.
> Thank you.
> Lynne L
> Sent from AOL on Android
> 
>
> On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 12:20 PM, Seth Rosen
>  wrote:
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[LincolnTalk] Home search.

[Kimberly Phillips]

I have a friend that is looking to buy a home in Lincoln. If you or if know 
anyone who is considering selling their home, please reach out to me your help 
is greatly appreciated.




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Re: [LincolnTalk] INF: CCBC Forum Opinion

[Kathy Madison via Lincoln]

Thank you, Seth for outlining the situation in excellent detail.

From what I’ve heard around town, the community center train has indeed left 
the station. Prior assumptions have taken the lead. And that is why so many 
folks here have complained about the recent survey, which was not a survey, but 
rather a “weigh in on what we’ve already decided” document. 

I’m not against the idea of a CC with space for programs. My son was once in 
the LEAP program, and I agree that space for the program would be well suited 
to a CC…. Especially given the location that’s been decided upon. 

However, especially given costs and these economic times, our little town 
desperately needs more flexibility and intelligent discernment regarding 
planning…. In fact, I’m wondering why we don’t still have a community center 
PLANNING committee. To have a building committee does feed into the “done deal” 
narrative.

If there can’t be more reasonable approach, we may find that the whole CC 
building plan will be voted down entirely.
It may be the only solution.

Kathy Madison
781-259-1764

> On May 9, 2023, at 8:54 AM, Seth Rosen  wrote:
> 
> Chris, the last substantive needs analysis was completed 5 years ago.  In my 
> business, we don't assume the work we did 5 years ago is still relevant today 
> - why would we do so here?  The world is different, the constraints are 
> different, the availability of alternative spaces is different, the decisions 
> are different.  
> 
> We can't talk about new ideas, because we don't have an "investigative" 
> committee.  We have a CCBC... a community center BUILDING committee.  That's 
> what they want to do... build a community center.  I am simply suggesting 
> that's not what we should do.
> 
> Now folks will almost certainly chime in and say "we are doing a revised 
> needs assessment right now as part of the building process."  Not really... 
> because we've started with the assumption that we NEED a new building, and we 
> are just figuring out how big to make it and how much it should cost.  I 
> think we should start with the assumption that we have a series of problems 
> that need to be solved and a series of resource constraints to content with.
> 
> I really encourage people to look at what the CCBC themselves have posted 
> most recently 
> .
>   The aspirations have now been "scaled down" from 30,000 square feet (2018) 
> to 25,000 square feet (today).  Wow. Let's take a peak at all of the things 
> we absolutely "need" that are included in this plan. 
> 
> 3,200 square feet for PRD and COA admin, including what appears to be eight 
> (8) private offices.  And this is just admin, no programming.
> 
> 
> 
> We are currently thinking about building 8,750 square feet of new space, 
> including a room with a piano and a stage.
> 
> 
> 
> Now I can sense what might be concerning some folks where will the piano 
> be stored when it is not in use in the 900 square foot piano room?  We have 
> 120 square feet for that, not to worry.
> 
> 
> 
> Interestingly the only thing that is undersized is LEAP (our after school 
> program).  Which actually needs more space.  In theory, LEAP could share some 
> of these spaces... but as a parent of two LEAP kids, I don't think you are 
> going to like what the spaces look like after our kids are done with them 
> from 3pm to 6pm every single day.  Fortunately, LEAP does not need "Class A" 
> office space.  What they need is two more large basic rooms that are up to 
> code, warm in the winter and cool in the summer.  A new version of something 
> akin to what they have right now but more of it would more than suffice.  And 
> they would be elated!  
> 
> 
> 
> I really encourage folks to look at the details of what's being proposed, 
> because the community center train seems to be leaving the station...
> 
> Best
> 
> Seth
> 
> Seth I Rosen
> Cell: 617-771-5602
> Email: rosen...@gmail.com 
> 
> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 6:45 AM Christopher Eliot  > wrote:
>> This sounds like deja vu all over again. Every time this issue comes up, 
>> people ask for a fresh analysis of the needs and to brainstorm “new” ideas.  
>> This has been done repeatedly and always gets the same answer. 
>> 
>> If someone has a great new idea, please put it forward. It is magical 
>> thinking to expect that a whole new approach can be discovered at this point 
>> after so many years of looking for one. 
>> 
>> The new building has been studied and reviewed and studied again. The 
>> constraints of geography and population and budget have all been looked at. 
>> There are no magic solutions. That is what the town needs. 
>> 
>> Now, let’s get on with it.
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Seth Rosen mailto:rosen...@gmail.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] INF: CCBC Forum Opinion
>>> Date: May 8, 2023 at 1

[LincolnTalk] INF: CCBC Forum Opinion

[Christopher Eliot]

This sounds like deja vu all over again. Every time this issue comes up, people 
ask for a fresh analysis of the needs and to brainstorm “new” ideas.  This has 
been done repeatedly and always gets the same answer. 

If someone has a great new idea, please put it forward. It is magical thinking 
to expect that a whole new approach can be discovered at this point after so 
many years of looking for one. 

The new building has been studied and reviewed and studied again. The 
constraints of geography and population and budget have all been looked at. 
There are no magic solutions. That is what the town needs. 

Now, let’s get on with it.


> From: Seth Rosen mailto:rosen...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] INF: CCBC Forum Opinion
> Date: May 8, 2023 at 12:20:00 PM EDT
> To: Barbara Low mailto:barbara_...@hotmail.com>>
> Cc: June L Matthews mailto:matth...@mit.edu>>, Lynne Smith 
> mailto:ly...@smith.net>>, Lincoln  >, Connie Ohlsten  >
> 
> 
> Barbara, it seems to me that we could brainstorm solutions to problems like 
> that, which I acknowledge do need to be addressed. 
> 
> Do we really believe that issue (and issues like it) can’t be solved without 
> constructing a brand new 8-figure building?  That’s our best idea?
> 
> The feedback I’m hearing, which I wholeheartedly agree with, is that we need 
> a fresh analysis of the needs.  Along with a recognition of true budget 
> constraints. 
> 
> Remember though, we’ve authorized the expenditure of $325,000 on 
> architectural plans to build a building. And we will get a set of 
> architectural plans, because that’s what we’ve asked for.  The cheapest 
> “option” will be $12.5m… and up from there.
> 
> And if we aren’t careful, we’ll build a big building we don’t need and can’t 
> afford.  It will be underutilized and way oversized. And we’ll have to 
> maintain it and the payments on the loan we had to take out to build it.  
> 
> And shortly thereafter we’ll have to make even harder tradeoffs on the rest 
> of the capital expenditures coming our way in the near future….
> 
> I hope folks who think this is fiscally irresponsible speak out and show up 
> to vote.
> 
> Seth
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