[LincolnTalk] Garden help needed

[melinda bruno-smith]

Hi neighbors

We are looking to hire someone to help weed a messy garden—​there might be some 
poison ivy mixed in;
3- hour blocks of time periodically over the summer – $25.00/hr.​

Thanks,
Melinda & Ralph Smith
781 275 2989
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Ruth Ann Hendrickson Supports Option C

[melinda bruno-smith]

To Paul’s last point: “ keeping the village center alive”
I personally do not believe we have a “village center”.
Melinda

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On Nov 29, 2023, at 3:32 PM, Paul Shorb  wrote:


I would like to endorse the comments in this thread by Ruth Ann and Allen, and 
respectfully disagree with Peter's:

  *   The people who have researched the options for a community center have 
demonstrated and explained why putting it at the town center is not an option 
available to the town.
  *   The RLF can only do so much to protect and preserve the commercial 
activity at the Mall against challenging market forces. I am on the RLF Board; 
in the Board's view, zoning as-of-right -- such as would be allowed by all of 
the December 2 options other than Option E -- is the strategy most likely to 
protect and preserve the commercial activity at the Mall in the long run.
  *   Knowledgeable real estate persons have advised us that requiring town 
meeting approval for new development at the Mall will in fact be a major 
deterrent to potential developers, thus increasing the risk of no added housing 
and therefore the risk of losing commercial tenants.

This is not about "letting the town die"; it's about (among other things) 
keeping the village center alive.

Paul Shorb

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 9:35 AM DJCP 
mailto:djcp0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It's a typo but I think you nailed it with "let the town die".
Diana

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 9:33 AM Bijoy Misra 
mailto:misra.bi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
as long as the current Town Meeting approval process is in place, we will 
rarely, if ever, be approached by developers - whether we actively try to 
recruit them or not. and even if we are approached, there is little chance they 
will stick with us through the entire approval process.

This is exactly I have been saying.  The goal is to let the town die and let 
the developers come.
It assumes that Townspeople would be unable to find a developer who is 
sensitive to the environment
and the town's needs.  It is possible that the current people in the lead are 
unable to find the developers
who can work with the town ethos.  Let the new young people lead and protect 
the town.
Let the town be more active and be a model in development efforts.  Let it keep 
its green..
Best regards,
Bijoy Misra



On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 7:57 AM Pastor Allen 
mailto:pastorall...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ruth Ann is absolutely correct, and I 100% agree with her logic and endorsement 
of option C.

I also think it important to emphasize and expand upon the concerns she raises 
about "Option E," and the town meeting process in general.

Those who invest in large projects are not looking to run a substantial risk of 
losing the major upfront investments and commitments they must make in any 
project before it gets to the point of final approval.  That's reasonable: we 
would not ask our friends or neighbors to throw a pile of their money and years 
of effort on the table and risk it all on a roll of the dice, and we would be 
resentful if they asked it of us.

In general, the need for a Town Meeting approval - no matter what town - is 
seen as a roll of the dice with a high risk of failure at the last minute. 
Further, Lincoln's history in that regard does not inspire confidence.

And so, with plenty of other nearby towns competing for those same investments, 
investors and developers have no need to ever put Lincoln on their shortlist of 
possible project opportunities. This will become even more true as more and 
more communities conform to the HCA.

Developers look for an approval process that they see as fair and predictable. 
(And it's that perception that counts, not our convictions to the contrary.)  
They look for assurance that if they play by the rules, they will have a 
reasonably good chance of success.  What the rules are is not as important as 
that they are predictable and stable.

So, the onus is upon us to craft a set of rules and processes to guide their 
efforts, so that their project meets the town's expectations and needs. It is 
in everyone's best interest to put those guard rails in at the front end of the 
approval process, rather than having them burst upon the scene at the last 
minute.

Many will point to Oriole Landing as an example of how town meeting can work. I 
was involved in that entire process from our first meeting with them through to 
the groundbreaking of the completed project. It needs to be pointed out that it 
was Civico's first exposure to the town meeting process, and they have already 
said they would never willingly do so again.

So, as long as the current Town Meeting approval process is in place, we will 
rarely, if ever, be approached by developers - whether we actively try to 
recruit them or not. and even if we are approached, there is little chance they 
will stick with us through the entire approval process.

Lincoln w

Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln Residents for Housing Alternatives and HCA Choices

[melinda bruno-smith]

Please forward a zoom link.
Thank you
Melinda

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Melinda Bruno-Smith




On Nov 29, 2023, at 9:29 AM, Susanna Szeto  wrote:


There is a public zoom presentation on Option E tonight (Wednesday) at 7 pm.  
There is a postcard mailed out to every resident about the zoom presentation of 
Option E.  Everyone is welcome to join!  Please do come to learn about how the 
different options compared so you can make an informed decision to vote on 
Saturday at town meeting!  Thank you!

Susanna S
Giles Road

On Nov 29, 2023, at 6:07 AM, Lis Herbert  wrote:

“Presented” is pretty generous.

On the one hand the E option was covered in about 10 minutes, with confused 
details, few specifics, offers of things like “none of this will actually be 
built” and “we can add that parcel in if needed”, as if it’s some throwaway, 
and half of the presentation came from a car. There was also an effort to 
somehow claim credit for future rezoning of the RLF property, the most logical 
of all lots to rezone — certainly more so than the two inter-related 
residential properties on Lewis Street that aren’t contiguous, while insisting 
the RLF be excluded because… it’s not clear. What are we meant to understand 
and what is smoke and mirrors?

On the other, this morning you were able to pinpoint and share track changes in 
an official town document, flagging yet another perceived, though quickly 
debunked, conspiracy aimed at the people who are working in an official 
capacity.

The lack of transparency on the part of whatever you want to call E is pretty 
clear, isn’t it? Or can we see into your process, and understand how you 
arrived at something we are meant to take seriously?

(And am I understanding correctly that we are now not meant to trust Utile? 
They’re in the tank, too?)

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On Nov 28, 2023, at 4:08 PM, Karla Gravis  wrote:


Option E was presented in a public meeting on 11/21. You can look at the video 
of the meeting 
here<https://cloud.castus.tv/vod/lincoln/video/65649a1ec9814f00089fa36f?page=HOME>
.

The citizens group came together organically, not unlike the citizens group 
that sprung up in Newton (and displaced five incumbents in the recent 
elections). The Brookline Select Board also worked with citizen groups, going 
as far as visiting each building on Harvard St to make decisions on which ones 
to include as a group. This form of citizen involvement is happening in other 
towns.

100 residents emailed the Selects asking for an additional option to Options C 
and Ds. I would argue the “special interest” here is the inclusion of the RLF 
project into *every* single option the HCAWG has presented, even though many 
people have requested an option without it. I would also argue it is a special 
interest when RLF employees criticize a grassroots citizens group, without 
disclosing their affiliation to the RLF. Another “special interest” is Civico 
having a say in our bylaws.

Why does every single HCAWG option include the mall? There would have been no 
need for a citizen-generated option if the HCAWG had 1) put forth an option 
without the mall and/or 2) addressed the numerous concerns (and mistakes) with 
options C and D. These concerns were brought up publicly.

Let’s remember Utile created the options in private meetings. There were no 
open discussions where the HCAWG went parcel by parcel as to what was included 
or not. Utile came up with the options privately (based on some loose guidance 
but no parcel-by-parcel open discussion whatsoever) and then were presented to 
the public. Perhaps if there had been open discussions with Utile, we would 
have been quicker to catch the multiple mistakes in the submission before it 
was sent to the State. (18 extra acres of parcels, LW zoning at 20 units/acre, 
etc). Must be noted that it was the citizens' group who caught the mistakes.







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From: John Mendelson mailto:johntmendel...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 15:44
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln Residents for Housing Alternatives and HCA 
Choices
To: Lynne Smith mailto:ly...@smith.net>>
CC: Lincoln mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>


This strikes me as extremely hypocritical in regard to the way the dialog has 
unfolded over the past few months.

Why should this group receive preferential treatment in terms of the process 
used to develop an option we are being asked to vote on?  Many members of the 
group who developed option E have spent the last few months demanding 
transparency, calling into question the ethics of the volunteers on the working 
group and elsewhere, destabilizing the process, and generally using the public 
forum of Lincoln Talk as a bully pulpit to push their agenda.

I am asking for meeting and voting records in order to fully evaluate the 
merits of and intent behind option E, just like many have asked for and 
received  for Options C and D.

To vote for an option (E) that ha

Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing Choice Act and Exclusionary Zoning Report-the HAC will make us even more exclusive.

[melinda bruno-smith]

I too thought the town was interested in developing or at least maintaining its 
commercial center.
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Melinda Bruno-Smith




On Nov 12, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Margaret Olson  wrote:


We have no guarantees that the RLF will maintain Donelan's either. If Donelan's 
is not sufficiently profitable they will leave, and the RLF may or may not be 
willing and able to set their rent at a level that keeps them profitable.

A note on the 2014 study: much of the research on the impact of the train was 
conducted at noon on a public holiday.

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 10:07 AM Karla Gravis 
mailto:karlagra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I want to emphasize that the Mall is currently a profitable concern.The RLF 
disclosed a rental profit of $164,571 in 2022. Details 
here<https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/46132391/202341749349301024/full>.
 However, if we rezone it by right, Civico would get to decide what mix of 
commercial and residential to build. As a private enterprise, they will choose 
to build whatever leads to the highest profits, which we know is residential. 
Ms. Barnes mentioned that commercial space will be reduced during the forum on 
Wednesday. We have no guarantees that Civico would maintain Donelan's or any of 
the existing commercial space. This outcome would be at odds with our goal of 
supporting our commercial center and reducing the town's carbon footprint. This 
is one of the reasons why it is so important that the Mall redevelopment goes 
through Town Meeting.

It is also important to puncture the myth that building units at Lincoln 
Station would do much to boost the commercial prospects of the area:

  *   The Planning Board released a Lincoln Station Planning Study in 2014. The 
study concluded that each 100 units added would only support 2,500 sq ft of 
space. For reference, Donelan's footprint is 20,387 sq ft. Study  
here<https://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/65765/Lincoln-Station-Planning-Study-3-27-2014bwfinal>
  *   2,500 sq ft of commercial space per 100 units is probably a very 
optimistic number. The Study assumed that the leakage (% of convenience buys by 
residents that happen outside of Lincoln Station) would come down from 80% to 
50%. If we use the actual 80% leakage, those 100 units would only support 1,000 
sq ft of space.
  *   In all likelihood the leakage is actually higher than 80% today given the 
increased penetration of online sales in the nine years elapsed.




From: DJCP mailto:djcp0...@gmail.com>>
Date: Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 08:14
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing Choice Act and Exclusionary Zoning 
Report-the HAC will make us even more exclusive.
To: Listserv Listserv mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>


The best way to make sure commercial stays commercial is to make the businesses 
viable and the best way to do that is to make sure there are people shopping 
there. Sorry but people from other towns are not flocking to Lincoln to buy $10 
pints of strawberries from Donelans. And I've only been here 5 years and have 
noticed the string of restaurants that have tried to fill the ONE space. 
Whether we make any changes there's no guarantee these businesses will stick 
around. That's capitalism folks. But we can help by AT LEAST zoning for more 
housing in the area.

Diana
Giles Rd

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023, 8:08 AM Peter Buchthal 
mailto:pbucht...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Along similar lines, how can the town ensure commercial space stays commercial 
as the new owners could easily decide to raise very high or not renew any 
commercial lease in order to build more luxury residential units by right as 
long as the project has unused housing units within the zoning allotment.


Peter Buchthal
Weston Rd

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 12:27 PM David Cuetos 
mailto:davidcue...@gmail.com>> wrote:
How can the RLF guarantee that any particular commercial space will remain once 
they sell the land to Civico? Are they planning to include a requirement for a 
supermarket in the deed? Anything else would just be a "recommendation".

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 6:09 PM Margo Fisher-Martin 
mailto:margo.fisher.mar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi All,

We know that a zoning change does not “dictate” that anything be built or 
changed, but we also know that major changes WILL happen in Lincoln, should 
this pass. Do any of you remember many years ago when zoning changes were made 
that impacted any changes an owner could make (as much as a bay window) without 
ZBA approval on pre-existing non-conforming lots? Some people who are pushing 
for the re-zoning here are the same people that tried to instill the fear of 
“mansionisation” should we allow any changes to homes on less than 2 acre lots. 
At town meeting, they showed pictures of dense mid-rise housing from other 
towns to scare people into taking away the rights of the pre-existing 
(grandfathered) non-conforming lot owners. Now some of these same people ar

[LincolnTalk] HCA zoom link for Nov 8, 7pm meeting

[melinda bruno-smith]

Please resend zoom link for tonight’s meeting.
Thanks!

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Melinda Bruno-Smith




On Nov 6, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Margaret Olson  wrote:


The proposed zoning changes are for two separate zones:
- The "HCA zone"
- A mixed use zone at the Mall.

In other words, there *are* separate mixed use and HCA residential zones. The 
current plan is to have one warrant article that creates both zones at the 
March town meeting. We do get unit credits towards HCA compliance for the mixed 
use zone.

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 8:01 PM Carlson, Jeanine 
mailto:jeanine.carl...@tuftsmedicine.org>> 
wrote:
Good evening, everyone,

Anything that is zoned as "mixed use" does NOT count towards the 42 acres that 
we are required to rezone to meet the state HCA requirement.

All it does is add to the number of units that can be built, without any input 
or oversight from the town of Lincoln regarding affordable housing (it only has 
to have 10%), congestion, etc.

So instead of getting 635 units as mandated by the state, we will end up with 
many more, over which we have no oversight.

It is my belief that we should separate the mixed use propositions from the HCA 
requirements.

The HCA requires that we rezone 42 acres for 15 units per acres, with NO MORE 
THAN 10% affordable.  We can always rezone for additional units if we want to, 
but then we would not be under the state's "free-for-all" HCA mandate, which is 
deleterious to our affordable housing stock, our diversity of housing and our 
ability to distribute new housing throughout our community.

Lincoln has always done better than this.  We can always rezone "mixed use" 
acres if we want to, while still requiring what we have always required - 
15-25% affordable, diversity of housing, 100 feet from wetlands, etc.

Sincerely,

Jeanine Carlson



From: Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org>> on 
behalf of Jeff B mailto:jeffbirc...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2023 5:32 PM
To: Margaret Olson mailto:s...@margaretolson.com>>; 
samat...@gmail.com<mailto:samat...@gmail.com> 
mailto:samat...@gmail.com>>
Cc: Lincoln Talk mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>
Subject: [EXT] Re: [LincolnTalk] Why Lincoln should overlay HCA zoning over 
existing multi-family districts

I'm not sure why we are playing this game of hide the 'expected' developments. 
It is true that very little in life is guaranteed. However, I think smart 
citizens should expect development to follow zoning. Cautious citizens should
I'm not sure why we are playing this game of hide the 'expected' developments.

It is true that very little in life is guaranteed. However, I think smart 
citizens should expect development to follow zoning.  Cautious citizens should 
definitely be prepared and expect for it to follow.  I think it is safe to say 
that the HCAWG also appears to expect development to follow the zoning based on 
today's meeting, when more low impact zoning ideas were rejected in favor of 
the current set and "getting something" as I believe was said at the time.

There are huge financial incentives that have made the idea of joining the HCA 
zoning attractive to property owners and potential developers.  Unfortunately 
some of those incentives might be directly at odds with the town's interests.

The Mall has gotten the most attention, as RLF has been the only property owner 
that has publicly stated that they plan to develop.  But realistically, it is 
just one of the new developments that would likely follow.

After all, if Doherty's is indeed leaving, zoning it for over 20 housing units 
makes a very strong financial incentive to build something along those lines at 
that location.  Being zoned mixed use doesn't require any commercial return and 
we could as a town see an actual decline in our commercial center as a result 
of the new zoning proposals.

If "Codman corner"  is zoned for 83 units on 4 acres, there is a very strong 
financial incentive to build those 83 units there. If Codman is zoned at 180 
units, then there will be a very strong financial incentive to build 180 units 
on the street.

All of these potential developments would be done under the new zoning without 
the normal town approval process and without any remaining sticks to encourage 
affordability above 10%, green energy goals, or almost any other concerns the 
town might have.

There is a reason the town has never previously just abdicated our town 
approval process like the HCA proposals suggest we do so.  A small committee is 
now asking the town to do so and take that incredibly bold leap of faith.  
Asking that we further assume that this zoning doesn't matter and maybe nothing 
changes feels silly at best.

I think the first question any HCA committee should have asked was how much do 
we really want to tie our hands as a town and make it more difficult to get 
a

Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center and Last night at Twisted Tree DeCordova

[melinda bruno-smith]

Also— Lincoln Garden Club with 146 members and First Parish…


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Melinda Bruno-Smith




On Oct 7, 2023, at 11:43 AM, Sara Mattes  wrote:

 What is the likelihood you would meet any of these folks at a Hartwell CC, 
between the hours of 9:30 AM and 3:30 PM?

We meet at events like you have just described - at DeCordova, at Pierce House 
( First Day, 4 th of July), at Codman Farm, at the Library, and sometimes at 
events at the schools ( Town Meeting, eg), and Winter Carnival.
…just a few examples.


…just a reality check.

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 7, 2023, at 6:05 AM, Anne Sobol  wrote:


The Twisted Tree at DeCordova was open last night from 5-9. I arrived at 6 and 
was disappointed not to see anyone in my age group (over 75), but I bought an 
interesting non-alcoholic drink and went out on the terrace to mingle with the 
young adults and their beautiful, active children. A woman with a lovely little 
daughter said she'd met me at the dump (how Lincoln!), and we commenced to talk 
about how we had both grown up in Lincoln (I in the '50's, she I think she said 
in the '90's). We both had lived in California when Covid hit in 2020, and 
ended up moving back to Lincoln. She told me about her work and we discussed 
how we found Lincoln after living in California. She asked me for my contact 
info and we agreed to get together for coffee in the future.

I went into the shop to get a plastic cup for the remains of my drink, and 
struck up conversation with a man and his wife, both more or less my age, who 
were waiting in line (the only other people my age I saw while I was there, 
they in the company of their family and small children). He was into the 
Hanscom expansion opposition, and we had an animated conversation until I felt 
I had to leave to get ready for a trip in the morning. We exchanged info about 
where we lived and they invited me to stop by.

When people ask me what I want in a Community Center, I say a place to meet 
people without a specific date. This is what I got at the Twisted Tree 
DeCordova last night. I haven't related to the often-mentioned notion of 
intergenerational mixing in the context of a Community Center, but I enjoyed 
last night mixing with younger people and their children.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center- size considerations

[melinda bruno-smith]

Agreed.

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On Sep 29, 2023, at 8:16 AM, Magruder Donaldson  wrote:


There must be a way to accommodate LEAP in the new, spacious school…
Craig Donaldson

On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 7:03 PM Peter Buchthal 
mailto:pbucht...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The school is too big by any standard.  We have 550 students with a declining 
school population.  The architect and school administration at the time told us 
the building was designed for 650 students.  More recently, the school 
architects publicly told fellow architects that the school was designed for 700 
students.  9 grades (k-8) each have 4 separate classrooms.   Only 2 of the 7 
grades have enough students for 4 simultaneous classrooms.  Applying the state 
education sizing guidelines for a new school, our 165,000 square feet should 
support over 1000 students.

It would be helpful to our discussion if people can agree on certain facts.

What exactly do people like about Plans A, B or C?   I like none of them as I 
believe the premise of intergenerational mingling  as a goal  won't be 
accomplished with the limited available hours for senior programming  at 
Hartwell because of the parking, traffic and safety concerns.  The new 
community center will have senior programming by design only from 9 to 2:30 on 
M, Tu, Th, Fr and 9 to 12 on Wed.

The CCBC presents parking as ample with 50 spots nearby without telling the 
community that the current users of Hartwell may already be using many if not 
most of the 50 nearby spots.  So, we may only have 5 to 10 open spots at any 
given time or maybe even fewer if there are events/meetings going on at the 
main Hartwell building's multi purpose room, training room or School business 
office.

I am afraid that the CCBC is sticking with a Community Center based in Hartwell 
for the wrong reasons.  The town has an obligation to its seniors. I  just 
don't want to build a core town building in a location that comes with so many 
restrictions/limitations.

Peter Buchthal
71 Weston Rd

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 10:58 AM John Mendelson 
mailto:johntmendel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You write as if everyone agrees the school has too much space.  I, for one, 
don't.

In my view, if there are lessons to be learned from the school building 
project, it is wise to examine the reasons why the town voted down the project 
in 2012, thereby rejecting $20.9 million in state funding.  Hubris, perhaps 
well-intentioned but overly wrought disagreements about site and design, 
concerns about cost?  Likely, all of the above.

To my ear, this dialogue sounds very similar, and I cannot help but believe 
that if we kick this down the road, costs are only going to increase and the 
impact of the project diminished.

I trust the work the CCBC has done and will very likely support their 
recommendation.

John

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 7:22 AM Peter Buchthal 
mailto:pbucht...@gmail.com>> wrote:

People of course are allowed to have their own opinions, but I don't believe 
this building project is about accepting our responsibility for taking care of 
our elders.  As I have mentioned before, my father lived to 97 and was a big 
user of his local Council on Aging.  You apparently believe that if one does 
not support the CCBC's decisions, you don't support our Council on Aging and 
its mission.  This is far from the truth.

Many on Lincoln Talk  and others in town simply question the Council on Aging 
Hartwell generous building space requirements.   Residents simply do not want 
to build a building that is bigger than our needs like we did with the school. 
There is also a healthy debate on whether it makes sense to build a 
COA/Community Center on the Hartwell Campus without sufficient parking and 
limited hours to protect the pre-school Magic Gardens and school age (5+)  
dropoff/Pickup from automobile running child parking lot mishaps.  I am also 
not aware of any community center anywhere that  intentionally colocates a 
senior center and  daycare using a small shared parking lot.

Many on Lincoln Talk and the town would hate to see the town build a huge 
building that is underutilized and repeats the lack of parking at Bemis Hall.

As a small community with limited resources and the highest per capita debt in 
the commonwealth, we need to look at large projects with many eyes and many 
voices.  It is a shame that up to now, the CCBC really hasn't listened to the 
public's concerns.

In an effort to lower the cost and save between 3 and 4 million, I have 
previously asked why Leap can't be relocated into the school where it belongs.  
Almost all other school districts have extended day offerings within the school 
as the hours of a school and after school program dovetail perfectly.  Maybe we 
should ask our new Superintendent if he could house Leap within the school?

Does anyone know where Leap is going to run while the Hartwell Project is under 
construction?

Peter Buchthal
71 Weston Rd

On

Re: [LincolnTalk] oierce house

[melinda bruno-smith]

I so agree with Sara --
...a number of smaller activities + the desire for a cozy place to drop in, 
have coffee, hang out might be accommodated by the Pierce House.

Melinda Bruno-Smith


From: Lincoln  on behalf of Sara Mattes 

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 3:41 PM
To: Leslie Turek 
Cc: Colleen Katsuki ; Lincoln Talk 

Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] oierce house

All,
My suggestion was not to imply the Pierce House could accommodate all of the 
COA/H programs and services.
Rather, I was suggesting a number of smaller activities + the desire for a cozy 
place to drop in, have coffee, hang out might be accommodated by the Pierce 
House.

Remember, the charge to the CCBC in the Spc.Town Meeting vote, when we approved 
money for them to advance planning and design, was to fully explore other sites 
on town for some programs, not all.
The thinking was that not all activities needed to be in one monolithic 
structure, if site and costs constraints were factors.
Recent meetings and discussions by the CCBC suggest  they might well be.

And, certainly, in the short term, the PH might be just the gathering place 
people have noted they are seeking.

Sara


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On Sep 16, 2023, at 2:30 PM, Leslie Turek  wrote:

Pierce House is lovely and might be useful for various sorts of social 
gatherings, but I don't see how those small rooms are sufficient for any sort 
of exercise class or a lecture or meeting of any size. And aren't there 
accessibility issues?
Leslie Turek

On Sat, Sep 16, 2023 at 11:58 AM Colleen Katsuki 
mailto:coll...@shadowtracks.org>> wrote:
"Improving the Pierce house has been thoroughly dismissed by the
Community Center Building Committee and that is a shame. .  In my
opinion, the Pierce House would make the ultimate Senior/Community Center."

Can anyone tell me why Pierce House was thoroughly dismissed by the
committee?


Colleen Katsuki


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Re: [LincolnTalk] Last Night's Community Center Forum

[melinda bruno-smith]

Thank you Peter.

I agree that point #2 should be addressed at Town meeting.

Melinda Bruno-Smith

…….2) The town has yet to disclose other competing capital expenditures in the 
pipeline for the town's tax resources.  I have heard rumors that we soon will 
need to replace the drinking water pipes along many parts of the town.  I have 
heard other rumors on lincoln talk, that our repaving and roadside path/bicycle 
safety  wishes may also require additional town borrowings…..

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On Sep 15, 2023, at 8:50 AM, V Saleme  wrote:

2) The town has yet to disclose other competing capital expenditures in the 
pipeline for the town's tax resources.  I have heard rumors that we soon will 
need to replace the drinking water pipes along many parts of the town.  I have 
heard other rumors on lincoln talk, that our repaving and roadside path/bicycle 
safety  wishes may also require additional town borrowings.
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[LincolnTalk] Hanscom Noise Hotline

[melinda bruno-smith]

Howdy neighbors 

I am noticing a significant increase in Hanscom flight ✈️ traffic and 
corresponding  increase in flight noise.
Would someone please post the phone number of the noise complaint hotline or 
other ways to register a complaint.

Thank you
Melinda

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Bike lanes

[melinda bruno-smith]

Yes, many roads in Lincoln are in dire need of repaving.

Melinda

From: Lincoln  on behalf of V Saleme 

Sent: Friday, September 1, 2023 10:30 AM
To: Bob Mason 
Cc: lincoln@lincolntalk.org ; Alida ZweidlerMcKay 

Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Bike lanes

….. which also implies that the majority of the roads in this town will have to 
be repaved first in order to accommodate-

It’s important to note that many cyclists spend a great deal of time navigating 
around broken or missing pavement, well jutting out into traffic lanes as a 
result-it’s extremely dangerous.

Vic

On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 10:24 AM Bob Mason 
mailto:robertma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Bob,

I agree with the sentiment that we need to change the cultural relationship 
between drivers, cyclists and pedestrians, but having dedicated infrastructure 
for cyclists/pedestrians is also a very important components of creating safe 
and accessible multi-modal transportation links. Hence dedicated bike lanes 
with physical barriers, rail trails, etc.

bob

On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:57 AM Bob Kupperstein 
mailto:bobk...@gmail.com>> wrote:


On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 9:44 AM Bob Mason 
mailto:robertma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I’ve wondered and suggested to some that we consider enhancing the trail that 
goes up the spine of Lincoln so it can be used more by cyclists.

It’s currently designated as a bike trail, but is really only suited for 
mountain biking. Such an infrastructure investment would allow greater 
connectivity, including to the schools with riders and walkers not even being 
close to a road.

Bob

Bob, I feel, as a cyclist, that this only avoids the growth that we need to 
take as a society - where we all really share the roads.

We've been car-centric for so long, the mentality that only cars/trucks really 
belong on the road is hard to shake.  But, we'll get there with more awareness.

On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 2:13 AM Alida ZweidlerMcKay via Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>> wrote:
Amen to this:

as a conscientious driver, I hate a day when all the cyclists are out - I pray 
my way through Lincoln and Concord. I wish they had dedicated bike lanes.

I want bikes to be out on beautiful days in our gorgeous town.  But I’m 
terrified to pass them and end up following forever until I feel like I can get 
around them safely. I’m sure I annoy both the cyclist and the cars behind me.

Bike lanes seem unlikely, given the land they require, but I sure wish we had 
them!

Alida Zweidler-McKay
25 Birchwood
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Alida, I have to admit as a cyclist I get annoyed by cars that won't pass, 
though I know they're just trying to be careful.   I also get very concerned 
when cars cross into the oncoming lane to pass - I've seen a number of 
close-calls when that happens.

I suggest keeping in mind the 4' law/rule - if you're leaving 4' and driving 
within the speed limit, the cyclist should be/feel safe.
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[LincolnTalk] Snail Mail in Lincoln

[melinda bruno-smith]

Hi neighbors,

Has anyone noticed that it takes a week or more for inter-Lincoln mail to be 
delivered?

Doesn't that seem extraordinarily slow?

Melinda Bruno-Smith



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Re: [LincolnTalk] Mahjong

[melinda bruno-smith]

Same here…
Melinda
781 275 2989

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On Jul 19, 2023, at 5:52 PM, Sarah Liepert  wrote:

 Lynne, this sounds fun! I have never played (even once), but I’d be happy to 
try a drop-in group if you’re willing to show me (and others) the ropes.

Also, Sandra, I’ll contact COA to get my name on the list of interested 
students for a class.

Sarah Liepert
617-633-3260 (c)

On Jul 19, 2023, at 5:43 PM, Lynne Smith  wrote:

 Do we need to wait for an instructor for mahjong or could we just get the 
2023 cards and form a group?  I’m also a rank beginner but have been playing 
knowledgeable friends and loving it!

I will ask Amy at COA and Jessica at PRD if they could make a meeting room 
available for a weekly meeting at either Pierce House or Bemis.



Lynne Smith
5 Tabor Hill Road
Lincoln, MA 01773
781-258-1175
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On 19 Jul 2023, at 4:38 p.m., Laura Koller  wrote:


Another rank beginner here. Sign me up!

Laura
On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 4:10 PM Sarah Liepert 
mailto:sarahliep...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Sandy, Ellen, Diana, Laura & other potential Mahjong players!

I am interested as a rank beginner. I’d prefer a class here in Lincoln, rather 
than driving back and forth to LSRHS.

So, if COA could coordinate a class here in town, that would be ideal!

Best,
Sarah Liepert
617-633-3260 (c)

On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Laura Crosby 
mailto:lauracros...@comcast.net>> wrote:

 I would be interested as a real beginner.


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On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:17 PM, DJCP 
mailto:djcp0...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I signed up with a few other ppl for the adult Ed class at LSRHS. The class was 
canceled due to an instructor issue but I believe they are going to try and 
hold it again. In the meantime, I would be interested if something else pops up!
Diana
Giles Rd

On Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 1:05 PM Ellen Waldron 
mailto:ellens.wald...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Sandy,
I learned MahJong at the COA just before the pandemic and have been hoping they 
would start a group again. I think I let the COA know my interest but if need 
be I can always confirm it.


ellen
617 281.2090

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> On Jul 19, 2023, at 12:31 PM, Sandra Bradlee 
> mailto:sandrabrad...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>
> I’m interested in learning Mahjong in Lincoln area.   Does anyone have any 
> information?  The COA is keeping a list of interested people, but won’t give 
> a class unless there is enough interest to hire an instructor.
> Sandy
> 617-840-2321
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Question re: clothing collection boxes around town

[melinda bruno-smith]

Very helpful information, thank you!

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Melinda Bruno-Smith




On Jun 26, 2023, at 5:13 PM, Sarah Liepert  wrote:


Hi Andy. Great info from several people on Lincoln Talk.

To your question, American Red Cross and other bins specify clothing, so in 
other textiles are best donated to Bay State Textiles.

Alice is correct that the American Red Cross doesn’t give donated clothing 
directly to disaster victims. As Alice noted below, the entirety of the 
donations are given to a vendor. The vendor receives money by selling the 
donated textiles (to thrift stores or by weight for other uses), and the 
American Red Cross receives a portion of that money, which benefits their 
Disaster Relief Fund.

Planet Aid donations are handled in a similar way. Their website says they get 
clothing to people in need, which may be strictly true; but their bins have 
terminology that indicates Planet Aid receives funds in the same way as the 
American Red Cross—by working with a vendor, which sells usable clothing to 
thrift stores, but does not give them free to people in need.

Goodwill and Salvation Army are similar. If donated clothing is usable, it’ll 
be sold through their stores and benefit their programs. Unusable clothing is 
sold by weight (textile recycling) and yields money for their programs.

There are many groups that accept usable clothing and distribute them free of 
charge to people in need. Those groups include St. Vincent DePaul; Cradles to 
Crayons (newborn to age 12); Circle of Hope (Needham), which distributes items 
free of charge to 25 area shelters and low-income programs in Boston; and 
Solutions at Work Cambridge/Children’s Clothing Exchange Cambridge/Green Street 
Shelter.

All best,
Sarah Liepert


On Jun 26, 2023, at 12:46 PM, June L Matthews  wrote:


I used to donate to Goodwill but now donate to St. Vincent de Paul.  I have a 
feeling that Goodwill has changed its mission – they used to employ the 
disabled to repair clothing that they would then sell.  The Goodwill stores 
that I have seen have become much more “upscale” in some areas, and I think 
that they only want ready-to-wear (or ready-to-use) items in good condition.  I 
don’t know what they do with the inferior or damaged donations.  Does anyone 
know?  There is a big Goodwill donation truck outside Crosby’s market in 
Concord.

June


From: Lincoln  On Behalf Of Sara Mattes
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 12:37 PM
To: Alice Waugh 
Cc: Lincoln Talk 
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Question re: clothing collection boxes around town

St Vincent de Paul has a box in Weston, behind St Julia’s church and near 
Brothers

All clothing dropped there goes fire to those in need as do proceeds from sales.
Red Cross is notorious for having huge overhead and very highly paid Execs, and 
actually expending a small portion of revenues on actual aid.
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On Jun 26, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Alice Waugh 
mailto:awaugh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Andy,

I think in either case the material must be dry and machine-washed clean. The 
Red Cross clothing donation 
page<https://www.redcross.org/local/massachusetts/ways-to-donate/clothing-donations.html>
 says "items are then sold through a vendor and a portion of the proceeds 
benefits our Disaster Relief Fund" but doesn't specify that the clothing itself 
is given to disaster victims, or what condition it has to be in. I suspect 
though don't know for sure that the "vendor" may be some place like Bay State 
Textiles that repurposes material in any (dry) condition as described in this 
2022 Lincoln Squirrel article under the "Textiles" subhead:
“Where does it all go?” Part 3: Recycling beyond 
single-stream<https://lincolnsquirrel.com/2022/08/where-does-it-all-go-part-3-recycling-beyond-single-stream/>"


Alice Waugh

Editor, The Lincoln Squirrel<https://www.lincolnsquirrel.com> and The Lincoln 
Chipmunk<http://chipmunk.lincolnsquirrel.com>

lincolnsquirreln...@gmail.com<mailto:lincolnsquirreln...@gmail.com>

617-710-5542 (mobile)

www.watusiwords.com<https://www.watusiwords.com/>


On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 8:27 AM Andy Wang 
mailto:andyrw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I had a question regarding the various clothing collection boxes around town.  
I was under the impression that the ones that are from baystatetextiles 
(schools and transfer station) will take clean old clothing (e.g stuff with 
holes, tears, stains) for textile recycling.  The other ones from Red Cross 
(transfer station and Stacy’s gas station) is looking for clean and usable 
clothing for distribution/sale.  Is that correct?  Thanks.

Andy
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Looking for self service water refill station

[melinda bruno-smith]

Which water filter do you recommend Jai Kaur?
Thanks
Melinda


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On Jun 21, 2023, at 11:05 AM, Jai Kaur  wrote:


Yes.
And, I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news but . . . .not just Lincoln town!
All municipal water systems the globe over have more or less chemicals and 
impurities that accumulate in the human body and cause cellular damage and 
toxic overload.
Well water also needs to be tested regularly for contamination of filtrates 
that are harmful.
Sorry to say that buying bottled water in plastic containers is only 
contributing to the problem of poisons in our food and water supplies !


On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 11:02 PM Nicholas Ribush 
mailto:nickrib...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is the town water that bad?

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 10:14 PM Sasha Golden 
mailto:sashagol...@gmail.com>> wrote:
There's one in Millis (I used to drive by it), but I doubt you'd really want to 
drive that far.

On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 6:18 PM Brandon Newman 
mailto:bnewman...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
I have recently switched over to a 5gal water dispenser and have yet to find 
somewhere that you can refill the jugs at. Right now, the best option that I 
have been able to find is an exchange at Home Depot for $7ea. I'm originally 
from Lincoln, RI and we had self serve stations where you could refill the jugs 
for 25cents a gallon. Is there anything like that remotely close to Lincoln, MA 
or a more cost effective way to exchange jugs?

Thanks
-Brandon
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center - more in-depth analysis and observations. Is it time for a course correction?

[melinda bruno-smith]

I too support taking a second look at renovating the beautiful architectural 
buildings in our town which are in dire need of upgrade and maintenance  —the 
Mall, Stone Church, Pierce House, Bemis, Old Town Hall, our Library.  Lincoln 
Roads are due for some repaving too.

Best,
Melinda

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On May 10, 2023, at 4:38 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:

 The charge to the CCBC, at the Spc.Town Meeting, was to consider alternative 
locations for a variety of programs, uses and functions.
Hartwell was to remain the principle site for NEW construction, but that other 
sites were to be included for some uses, in order to reduce the amount of new 
construction needed.
So, it is the current CCBC that is charged with seeking alternative spaces, be 
it at the Mall or St. Annes or the Stone Church, or Bemis, or Pierce House.
It is not for an Ad Hoc committee to duplicate these endeavors.

As previously mentioned, our existing town-owned buildings will require ongoing 
maintenance, and, in fact, some improvements.
Perhaps this is an opportunity to jump start some of those projects - certainly 
cheaper, in the long run than  creating more building sq. footage to maintain, 
and creating more/expanded parking lots and paved surfaces.
Perhaps we should investigate how the remodeled Town Offices were able to 
create an HVAC system that provides habitable spaces in the lower level and 
apply those lessons to Bemis Hall.
And what would it take to advance the creation of the handicapped accessible 
bathroom on the first floor of the Pierce House, which already has a kitchen 
upgrade in the works?

Perhaps we could look at the programs currently offered at other institutions 
around town and see how we might coordinate-Codman Farm has a new commercial 
kitchen and offers cooking classes, DeCordova offers some art programs.
What else might be out there?
Do we need to reinvent the wheel and compete with these organizations that 
might appreciate our support?

And why the call for a large new space, with a stage and a grand piano when 
that already exists...at Bemis Hall?

And what programs are available to us in other neighboring towns?
We were told we needed to open our COA programs to other towns-“reciprocity” 
was it?
Doesn’t that work both ways?
What programs are open to us, through reciprocity, in other neighboring 
communities-communities with large facilities and even larger budgets?

Yes, we need to build better spaces for after-school programs, LEAP, summer 
camp, Park & Rec. and even some new spaces for COA.
But, let us be more creative and maximize the use of spaces that already exist.
Let us make sure that our eyes are not bigger than our (fiscal) stomachs.

Regards,
Sara






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On May 10, 2023, at 4:09 PM, Ruth Ann Hendrickson  
wrote:


Five years or so ago, the assigned committees did an EXHAUSTIVE search for 
potential sites for a new Community Center including multiple open charettes to 
discuss locations. The overwhelming choice of the large group of participants 
was to have the Center at Hartwell. The motion at town meeting was worded to 
develop options for a Center near Hartwell. That is the CCBC's charge. They are 
not charged with considering new locations.

If a large group of people want to propose a different location, please form 
yourselves into an ad hoc committee and do the work to flesh out your ideas. 
You can get a head start by looking at the previous studies that considered 
other locations. Then ask the Selects if you can present your findings at the 
fall State of the Town Meeting. It is easy to say there are spaces at the Mall. 
It is much harder to be specific  - which spaces and what needs could be 
accommodated there.

I look forward the hearing  your proposals. New ideas are always worth 
consideration.

Ruth Ann Hendrickson
(She, her)

On 5/10/2023 3:43 PM, Peter Buchthal wrote:
We have started a robust discussion on LincolnTalk about the new community 
center.  It appears that after spending a short amount of time looking at the 
other available properties in the town, the committee has decided to only focus 
resources going forward on building a new facility on the Hartwell campus.

Underused town resources require maintenance
We are a small town with many underused town resources.  Some of our town 
buildings are in need of overdue maintenance.  Shouldn’t all town buildings be 
ADA and handicap accessible?
Bemis needs a refresh and it will require ongoing maintenance even if we build 
a community center.  Shouldn’t we figure out how much this future underused 
building will cost the town to keep it in good shape?  Or are people suggesting 
the plan is to take it down at some point?
The Pierce House has so much deferred maintenance that it may become unsafe in 
the near future.  The interior  reminds me of Miss Havisham’s home from Great 
Expectations.  Without a Pip or Estella to maintain it, we have allowed this 
generous 

Re: [LincolnTalk] Please take conversations off line!

[melinda bruno-smith]

Agreed.

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On Mar 24, 2023, at 1:06 PM, Scott Clary  wrote:


Thank you andy - was thinking the same thing

Kind Regards,

Scott Clary
617-968-5769

Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors

On Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 12:02 PM Andrew Payne 
mailto:a...@payne.org>> wrote:
The moderators wrote:

The moderators have made it abundantly clear over several years of Town 
Meetings and voting cycles... TAKE CONVERSATIONS OFFLINE!  If you are in a 
debate with someone and are going back and forth... time to take it offline.

I realize it's "moderator's church, moderator's rules", but I would ask the 
moderators to consider indulging a little back and forth (moderate and 
respectful, of course) leading up to Town Meeting.

We have found over the years that hashing on lincoln-talk tends to make TM 
debates on the topics less down-in-the-weeds.  In other words, some tolerated 
messiness on lincoln-talk makes town meetings run better.

Residents can press "skip" or "mute" on their email inbox, but they can't do 
that at Town Meeting.  (When someone finally invents that technology for an 
in-person town meeting, it will be a game changer.)

One "provider of detailed explanations" resident's view,

-andy
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Disappointed

[melinda bruno-smith]

Oh my Christi
Your words are so powerful they can carry the weight of the nation.
Thank you for stepping up with such force.
melinda

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On Feb 22, 2023, at 11:36 PM, Christi Damico  wrote:


The impacts to Minuteman National Park, the cradle of our nation's birth, would 
be intolerable if this expansion were to go through.

The goal of the Park is to create and maintain an environ as similar as 
possible to what life was like at the time of the American Revolution.  It is a 
national treasure.

I cannot imagine the disruption to the Park that the proposed expansion would 
create. It would decimate the experience for users of the park, and that would 
be a travesty.  We have a responsibility to protect our history, and expanding 
this airport for commercial and private usage would be doing the exact opposite 
of that.

Chris I'm sorry I'm not 100% on board with your focus, but I appreciate your 
efforts just the same.  I am absolutely committed to our environment... but I'm 
not sure "laser focus" on that one horse will win the entire race.

Let me know how I can help.

Thanks,
Christi Damico

On 02/22/2023 6:24 PM Mary Crowe  wrote:


Well said Anne !

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 7:24 PM Sara Mattes 
mailto:samat...@gmail.com>> wrote:

--
Sara Mattes




On Feb 22, 2023, at 7:04 PM, Anne Sobol 
mailto:anne.so...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This is the comment I submitted to MEPA:

The record submitted provides no documentation for the need for what appears to 
be a speculative commercial project.
The expansion of private jet traffic at Hanscom is inconsistent with our local 
efforts to reduce the use of fossil fuels and to protect the environment.
The expansion of emissions-heavy, private jet traffic will despoil wildlife and 
natural habitat in the Great Meadows National Wildlife Preserve and the Minute 
Man National Historical Park.  It also endangers human beings enjoying these 
preserves.
A fuel tank farm will endanger the residential neighborhood around the proposed 
project.
Whose interests does MassPort represent?  Its own financial interests at the 
expense of local Massachusetts citizens?  The interests of speculative 
commercial businesses at the expense of local Massachusetts citizens, their 
families, and their children?
The MassPort website states that MassPort “is dedicated to the vibrant 
neighborhoods around us.”  If that is true, MassPort should not be promoting 
the expansion of the private jet facility at Hanscom.
Expanding facilities for private jet usage is inconsistent with the goals set 
forth by MassPort in its Climate Action Plan: Net Zero by 2031.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 6:47 PM Sara Mattes 
mailto:samat...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Even with non-fossil fuels still are facing an environmental assault with the 
proposed development.
there will still be 445,000 sq. Feet of impervious surface-black tarmac.
There will still be the elimination of hundreds of trees and a vastly reduced 
carbon sink.
There will still be 767s hurtling over homes, Great Meadows, Minuteman National 
Historical Park.
There will still be fuel farms adjacent to a residential neighborhood.

Perhaps we can be more bold and consider limiting the use of private jets such 
as these, the type of customers Massport seeks to attract.
<332142886_1125259908167579_3281511644248880012_n.jpeg>
John Travolta on Instagram: "I wanted to make my favorite childhood airline 
poster come to life for my birthday! So here we go! Viva Las Vegas! 
✈️"<https://www.instagram.com/p/Co8eBdeN4_o/?hl=en>
instagram.com<https://www.instagram.com/p/Co8eBdeN4_o/?hl=en>


--
Sara Mattes




On Feb 22, 2023, at 4:04 PM, Christopher Eliot 
mailto:c...@chriseliot.com>> wrote:

I don’t think any local, county or state government has ever found a way to 
limit aviation use of fossil fuels at any airport in this country.

I believe this could set a national precedent.

On Feb 22, 2023, at 12:32 PM, Paul Shorb 
mailto:paul.sh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I believe that Chris and the people he has been working with on this are 
well-informed about the extent of the political and legal leverage that they 
have, the strengths and weaknesses of the other side, etc., and are developing 
strategy based on that.
- Paul Shorb

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 11:15 AM Christi Damico 
mailto:christi.dam...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Chris—simply stated— this is not enough. I am sorry, to be so blunt. This is a 
fall back position, in my opinion.  You need to go in with a full effort 
against expansion & negotiate from there if you must.  I’m surprised and 
disappointed. Please rethink your strategy! This one is not strong enough to 
win, and you never start a negotiation from a fall back position, right?  
Unless you plan to lose.

Christi Damico
Of the Mill Street Damico’s of Lincoln
Lincoln/Seattle

“I?ve been working 

Re: [LincolnTalk] Disappointed

[melinda bruno-smith]

Yes, thank you Anne.

Sent from my iPhone
Melinda Bruno-Smith




On Feb 22, 2023, at 7:05 PM, Anne Sobol  wrote:


This is the comment I submitted to MEPA:

The record submitted provides no documentation for the need for what appears to 
be a speculative commercial project.
The expansion of private jet traffic at Hanscom is inconsistent with our local 
efforts to reduce the use of fossil fuels and to protect the environment.
The expansion of emissions-heavy, private jet traffic will despoil wildlife and 
natural habitat in the Great Meadows National Wildlife Preserve and the Minute 
Man National Historical Park.  It also endangers human beings enjoying these 
preserves.
A fuel tank farm will endanger the residential neighborhood around the proposed 
project.
Whose interests does MassPort represent?  Its own financial interests at the 
expense of local Massachusetts citizens?  The interests of speculative 
commercial businesses at the expense of local Massachusetts citizens, their 
families, and their children?
The MassPort website states that MassPort “is dedicated to the vibrant 
neighborhoods around us.”  If that is true, MassPort should not be promoting 
the expansion of the private jet facility at Hanscom.
Expanding facilities for private jet usage is inconsistent with the goals set 
forth by MassPort in its Climate Action Plan: Net Zero by 2031.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 6:47 PM Sara Mattes 
mailto:samat...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Even with non-fossil fuels still are facing an environmental assault with the 
proposed development.
there will still be 445,000 sq. Feet of impervious surface-black tarmac.
There will still be the elimination of hundreds of trees and a vastly reduced 
carbon sink.
There will still be 767s hurtling over homes, Great Meadows, Minuteman National 
Historical Park.
There will still be fuel farms adjacent to a residential neighborhood.

Perhaps we can be more bold and consider limiting the use of private jets such 
as these, the type of customers Massport seeks to attract.
<https://www.instagram.com/p/Co8eBdeN4_o/?hl=en>
[332142886_1125259908167579_3281511644248880012_n.jpeg]
John Travolta on Instagram: "I wanted to make my favorite childhood airline 
poster come to life for my birthday! So here we go! Viva Las Vegas! 
✈️"<https://www.instagram.com/p/Co8eBdeN4_o/?hl=en>
instagram.com<https://www.instagram.com/p/Co8eBdeN4_o/?hl=en>


--
Sara Mattes




On Feb 22, 2023, at 4:04 PM, Christopher Eliot 
mailto:c...@chriseliot.com>> wrote:

I don’t think any local, county or state government has ever found a way to 
limit aviation use of fossil fuels at any airport in this country.

I believe this could set a national precedent.

On Feb 22, 2023, at 12:32 PM, Paul Shorb 
mailto:paul.sh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I believe that Chris and the people he has been working with on this are 
well-informed about the extent of the political and legal leverage that they 
have, the strengths and weaknesses of the other side, etc., and are developing 
strategy based on that.
- Paul Shorb

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 11:15 AM Christi Damico 
mailto:christi.dam...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Chris—simply stated— this is not enough. I am sorry, to be so blunt. This is a 
fall back position, in my opinion.  You need to go in with a full effort 
against expansion & negotiate from there if you must.  I’m surprised and 
disappointed. Please rethink your strategy! This one is not strong enough to 
win, and you never start a negotiation from a fall back position, right?  
Unless you plan to lose.

Christi Damico
Of the Mill Street Damico’s of Lincoln
Lincoln/Seattle

“I?ve been working with Senator Barrett and other local leaders on a response 
to the large North Airfield expansion. This project aims to create 495,000 
square feet of hangar space for corporate and private jets on the north side of 
Hanscom Field. Massport and the developers have expressed concern for the 
environment and indicated it will be done in an environmentally friendly way.

We plan to hold them to their word and are asking the state Executive Office of 
Energy and Environmental Affairs (EEA) to require that all aircraft based in 
the new hangars operate entirely without use of fossil fuels.

One option this would leave the developers is to base electric aircraft here. 
While not quite here, there are about 200 companies trying to produce electric 
aircraft and some are very close to production.

https://www.afar.com/magazine/electric-planes-are-coming-sooner-than-you-think

Area leaders and residents have many concerns about this project but we are 
staying laser focussed on the climate change impact resulting from expanded use 
of private jets. We think this is our best strategy based on experience from 
many previous expansion projects.

Christopher Eliot, Hanscom Field Advisory Commission, Chair
Lincoln”
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[melinda bruno-smith]

Happy Solstice neighbors,

Any recommendations for chimney inspectors?

Thanks,
Melinda & Ralph Smith
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Re: [LincolnTalk] COMMUNITY CENTER

[melinda bruno-smith]

FYI: Stone Church has a large kitchen.
melinda

From: Lincoln  on behalf of Dennis Picker 

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 12:58 PM
To: DJCP 
Cc: Lincoln Talk 
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] COMMUNITY CENTER

The kitchen is an example of including nice to have vs. essential needs in the 
proposal.

The kitchen that is included in both high end options is described as a kitchen 
that can accomodate  cooking classes and the weekly senior dining lunch.

Cooking classes might be a nice addition to our program offerings but do we 
want to pay capital cost to enable them?  Cooking classes are available at 
reasonable cost from LS Adult ed, Minuteman adult ed, and I hear at Codman 
farm.  In addition, there are numerous restaurants and individual enterprises 
that offer cooking classes.  Some would be easy for seniors to access, some 
less so.  Nice to have, but not essential.

Senior dining is currently carried out offsite from Bemis and although having 
it under the same roof as everything else might be nice, it is again a nice to 
have and not an essential.  There are other options for where to provide this 
service- the current locations at Stone church or St. Annes, potentially Pierce 
House.  The kitchen there is small scale and oldish.  But, high end catered 
weddings are routinely held there.  A senior dining program there using 
take-out food seems feasible.

If you change the kitchen requirement at a newly built community center to not 
have the floorspace and appliances needed to hold multi-person cooking classes 
or to prepare group meals from scratch you can build a smaller room equipped 
with fewer/less expensive appliances.

This will not save $5 million.  It won't save $1 million.  It is an easy to 
grasp example of how the two options that are only choices we have been given 
include nice to have features that add cost beyond what would be required in an 
option that focused only on no-frills, just the real essentials.

The kitchen is not the only example.  The 10 year process has, unfortunately, 
never revealed a vetted list of essential needs versus "nice to have if we want 
to pay for it."

I accept that during the outreach process some people, I don't know how many, 
said "can we have cooking classes?"  That doesn't mean there is broad support 
for adding this service.  It is very easy to say "I want that" without having 
to deal with "it will cost you X" when you add it to the wish list.

I understand and am sympathetic to the situation you describe with your mother. 
  I am 75 and preparing meals is a drag.  The senior dining service is what the 
town offers to address in a small way that need.  There is probably 
opportunities to improve the senior dining experience that we offer, but I am 
not convinced that we need an expensive large shiny new kitchen to achieve that.

Bottom line, we can disagree about the kitchen or about any other "nice to 
haves".  All I have been asking is that we get a believable path to seeing an 
honest-to-goodness option on the table that includes only the on-frills stuff, 
and then the voters ultimately choose which one we spend money on.  The debate, 
in my mind is not about the kitchen it is about the absence of needs/wants 
clarity, the absence of a no-frills choice to consider.

Dennis Picker




On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 12:35 PM DJCP 
mailto:djcp0...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Why the harping on the kitchen?  Do you think cutting the kitchen is going to 
save $10 million?  The cost is going to be relatively nominal.

Plus, it seems like people who are opposed to the kitchen have the privilege of 
not having had to watch their aging parents lose the ability to safely cook at 
home.  Cooking was a big part of my family growing up, as it is for many, and I 
think my mom would have enjoyed watching cooking classes.  (The Codman kitchen, 
while lovely, is in the barn and does not have a lot of room for sitting, nor 
is the barn temperature regulated.)  It's almost like there were people on a 
committee and people were surveyed to find out what could best serve the COA 
community, and these were the ideas that were raised!

Diana
A former member of the dreaded "sandwich generation" and may you never need to 
know what that means if you don't already
Giles Rd

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 11:34 AM Karla Gravis 
mailto:karlagra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The problem is the starting point of $25M, which includes so many “wants” like 
a teaching kitchen and a cafe.

Inflation shouldn’t be the reason we push forward a $25M project without 
understanding our true needs.

Wayland, which has so many more residents than us, is building a community 
center for $11M and at 13Ksqft (half the size we’re proposing).

We need to level-set our needs, and spending $325K on refining proposals will 
not get us there.



On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 11:11 AM Lis Herbert 
mailto:lisherb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sara:

Do not try to contort the meaning of my words and frame me 

Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center Building Committee- Bemis

[melinda bruno-smith]

I fantasize that Bemis could one day be restored to its original elegance 
—lecture hall, dance hall, community theater….
melinda

Sent from my iPhone
Melinda Bruno-Smith




On Nov 27, 2022, at 9:48 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:

 Correction:
The basement area used by the Lincoln Historical Society are 2 back rooms, next 
to boilers and are only storage areas.  This space is not suitable for any 
other use.
The same is true for the space used by Lincoln Minute Men.
I believe the Library Book Sale is no longer in Bemis, in any capacity.
I am not aware of what space the Lincoln Girl Scouts use…perhaps that should be 
checked also.

Given the amount of available office space in the Mall area, I am not sure of 
the demand for rental space buy non-profits or others.
It appears there is more space already available than there is demand.

It would be nice if we had  Community Access Television, but we do not and 
since the death of Jim Cunningham (our one-man dynamo who did all our Cale and 
video work), I have nothing or seen nothing on the horizon.

I would be very curious to see what organizations are prepared to rent  a 
vacated Bemis and at what fee structure.

Such specifics (corrected, as noted above)  would help inform discussion at the 
upcoming Spec. Town Meeting.




--
Sara Mattes




On Nov 27, 2022, at 9:06 PM, Krystal Wood 
 wrote:

Community Center Building Committee- November, 2022

What will happen to Bemis Hall if the COA moves out?

We are happy to provide some information about potential uses of Bemis Hall in 
the future.   However, please note that determining the use of Bemis Hall after 
a community center is built is beyond the scope of the Community Center 
Building Committee.

We anticipate that the upstairs hall will continue to be used for performances, 
classes, dances, lectures, meetings, and private functions just as it is now.  
In fact, this use can be expanded once the COA no longer occupies the space 
during the day, providing opportunities for organizations to have space for 
playgroups, classes and lessons, afterschool activities, meetings, and more 
(Lincoln-CCPPDC-Report-07-12-18-digital 
(lincolntown.org)<http://www.lincolntown.org/DocumentCenter/View/72440/Lincoln-CCPPDC-Report-07-12-18-digital>
 – page 21). The Town has received numerous requests in the past to use the 
upstairs space during the day for these purposes.

The basement is currently occupied by the Lincoln Girl Scouts, the Lincoln 
Minute Men, the Library Book Sale, and the Lincoln Historical Society. We 
expect that these organizations will continue to use the space they now have, 
with the possibility of expanding into some of the space that will no longer be 
used during the day by the COA The COA has already received requests 
from renters for basement and first floor programming space during COA hours.

The space that will be vacated by the COA  includes the 450 square foot 
program room, and two small offices in the basement, and the first-floor space. 
Two ideas for using this for municipal space that have been discussed include 
programming space for the Library and space for all the Town’s land use offices 
and organizations.

If space is leftover, Lincoln could follow the lead of other cities and towns 
that have buildings much like Bemis Hall and rent it to non-profit 
organizations, small professional firms, and others or use it for arts or other 
purposes.

One perfect example of this re-use is Bedford’s Old Town Hall, which is much 
like Bemis Hall in terms of size and configuration.  It has a large upstairs 
hall that is used for exactly the same purposes as the upstairs hall at Bemis 
is currently. The downstairs offices and other spaces are used by the Bedford 
Center for the Arts and Bedford Community Access Television. It is owned by the 
Town of Bedford but managed by a non-profit organization. Other towns with town 
halls that are no longer used town halls and are rented out or used for other 
purposes in a similar fashion are in Tyngsboro (rentals), Salem (art exhibits), 
Athol (Historical Society), Bedford, NH (rentals and community use), 
Easthampton (arts, maintained by non-profit), and Andover (private function 
rentals).

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center

[melinda bruno-smith]

Our new school has a state-of-the-art theater for students , no?

Sent from my iPhone
Melinda Bruno-Smith




On Nov 26, 2022, at 11:03 AM, DJCP  wrote:


The school is bustling after school with plays and musicals and music lessons 
and school sports but parks and rec activities take place in the pods and 
around town. For example, farmer friends at Codman and musical theater which is 
currently at First Parish. The fact that theater is off campus is a hindrance 
for young kids with no grown up to accompany them. Walking from school to the 
church requires crossing a busy road at least twice, only one of which has a 
crossing guard. (And please, do not suggest the town hire another crossing 
guard.  That is not the answer.)

In my opinion, one of the greatest benefits of living in Lincoln is how much 
independence the kids get from being on campus and walking around, and how much 
access they have to enrichment activities such as music lessons and parks and 
rec activities, which do not require an adult to take off work / work from home 
/ be a stay at home parent.

Diana
Giles Rd


On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 10:51 AM melinda bruno-smith 
mailto:melindabr...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Andy,
Wouldn't after-school programs be in the school?
melinda

From: Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org>> on 
behalf of Andy Wang mailto:andyrw...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:38 AM
To: June L Matthews mailto:matth...@mit.edu>>
Cc: LincolnTalk mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>; 
Margaret P Flint mailto:margaretpfl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center

In the discussion above, I'm unclear if folks are advocating for a community 
center (both COA and Parks & Rec) or a senior center (and keep Parks & Rec in 
the pods) in the spaces around Lincoln Station.  But just some additional food 
for thought, on the Parks and Rec side, I believe that it was viewed as 
important to keep spaces accessible to the school campus.  With the programs 
for kids, it is convenient for kids to be able to get to those programs easily. 
Not all kids are old enough to walk over by themselves.  LEAP also takes 
several of its kids over to the programs that parents sign up for and pick them 
up that may not be right after school.

- Andy




On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 8:15 AM June L Matthews 
mailto:matth...@mit.edu>> wrote:

Excellent statement,  Ken!  I hope that the proposal to change gears and 
consider a community center at Lincoln Station gains some traction. I would 
vote in favor of allocating funds to study this option.  After reading the many 
comments and thinking carefully about the issues, I would not vote in favor of 
allocating funds directed only toward the Hartwell proposals.  I can’t 
remember, ten years ago, what led to the choice of this location.  For all the 
reasons expressed by you and a few others, I believe that this choice, although 
well-intentioned, was misguided.  Let’s put the community center in the center 
of our community – accessible by foot or bike by many, and for those using 
their cars, adjacent to other essential services (groceries, post office, etc.)



June Matthews

Greenridge Lane



From: Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org>> On 
Behalf Of Ken Hurd
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 9:55 PM
To: LincolnTalk mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>
Cc: Margaret P Flint mailto:margaretpfl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: [LincolnTalk] Community Center



Hello LincolnTalkers,

I wish to applaud all those who have taken the time to revisit and question the 
financial pros and cons of building a community center at this time, and thanks 
particularly to those who have recently commented on the advisability of 
building it at the Hartwell site.



I fully support building a new facility, but it has long been my opinion that 
such a major investment by the town should be deployed where it is most needed 
- namely in the Lincoln Station area.  For more than ten years since Town 
Meeting approved the Comprehensive Long Range Plan, in which the revitalization 
of Lincoln Station was overwhelmingly one of the highest priorities, the area 
has lain dormant and in serious need of a catalyst to jumpstart its 
transformation into the compact, vital, walkable village center that was a 
stated goal at the time.  A community center in such a location would be the 
equivalent of an anchor store in a retail setting, and by virtue of attracting 
more people on a regular basis, it would create more opportunities for a 
clustered cross-current of activities spawning greater social interaction.



In my opinion, it would constitute the classic suburban planning error to 
create a new center that stands alone like the suburban mall accessible only by 
car.  In addition, because of school protocols, there would be very limited 
inter-generational co-mingling until after school hours, if at all.

Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center

[melinda bruno-smith]

Our new school has a state-of-the-art theater for students , no?

Sent from my iPhone
Melinda Bruno-Smith




On Nov 26, 2022, at 11:03 AM, DJCP  wrote:


The school is bustling after school with plays and musicals and music lessons 
and school sports but parks and rec activities take place in the pods and 
around town. For example, farmer friends at Codman and musical theater which is 
currently at First Parish. The fact that theater is off campus is a hindrance 
for young kids with no grown up to accompany them. Walking from school to the 
church requires crossing a busy road at least twice, only one of which has a 
crossing guard. (And please, do not suggest the town hire another crossing 
guard.  That is not the answer.)

In my opinion, one of the greatest benefits of living in Lincoln is how much 
independence the kids get from being on campus and walking around, and how much 
access they have to enrichment activities such as music lessons and parks and 
rec activities, which do not require an adult to take off work / work from home 
/ be a stay at home parent.

Diana
Giles Rd


On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 10:51 AM melinda bruno-smith 
mailto:melindabr...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Andy,
Wouldn't after-school programs be in the school?
melinda

From: Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org>> on 
behalf of Andy Wang mailto:andyrw...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:38 AM
To: June L Matthews mailto:matth...@mit.edu>>
Cc: LincolnTalk mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>; 
Margaret P Flint mailto:margaretpfl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center

In the discussion above, I'm unclear if folks are advocating for a community 
center (both COA and Parks & Rec) or a senior center (and keep Parks & Rec in 
the pods) in the spaces around Lincoln Station.  But just some additional food 
for thought, on the Parks and Rec side, I believe that it was viewed as 
important to keep spaces accessible to the school campus.  With the programs 
for kids, it is convenient for kids to be able to get to those programs easily. 
Not all kids are old enough to walk over by themselves.  LEAP also takes 
several of its kids over to the programs that parents sign up for and pick them 
up that may not be right after school.

- Andy




On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 8:15 AM June L Matthews 
mailto:matth...@mit.edu>> wrote:

Excellent statement,  Ken!  I hope that the proposal to change gears and 
consider a community center at Lincoln Station gains some traction. I would 
vote in favor of allocating funds to study this option.  After reading the many 
comments and thinking carefully about the issues, I would not vote in favor of 
allocating funds directed only toward the Hartwell proposals.  I can’t 
remember, ten years ago, what led to the choice of this location.  For all the 
reasons expressed by you and a few others, I believe that this choice, although 
well-intentioned, was misguided.  Let’s put the community center in the center 
of our community – accessible by foot or bike by many, and for those using 
their cars, adjacent to other essential services (groceries, post office, etc.)



June Matthews

Greenridge Lane



From: Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org>> On 
Behalf Of Ken Hurd
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 9:55 PM
To: LincolnTalk mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>
Cc: Margaret P Flint mailto:margaretpfl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: [LincolnTalk] Community Center



Hello LincolnTalkers,

I wish to applaud all those who have taken the time to revisit and question the 
financial pros and cons of building a community center at this time, and thanks 
particularly to those who have recently commented on the advisability of 
building it at the Hartwell site.



I fully support building a new facility, but it has long been my opinion that 
such a major investment by the town should be deployed where it is most needed 
- namely in the Lincoln Station area.  For more than ten years since Town 
Meeting approved the Comprehensive Long Range Plan, in which the revitalization 
of Lincoln Station was overwhelmingly one of the highest priorities, the area 
has lain dormant and in serious need of a catalyst to jumpstart its 
transformation into the compact, vital, walkable village center that was a 
stated goal at the time.  A community center in such a location would be the 
equivalent of an anchor store in a retail setting, and by virtue of attracting 
more people on a regular basis, it would create more opportunities for a 
clustered cross-current of activities spawning greater social interaction.



In my opinion, it would constitute the classic suburban planning error to 
create a new center that stands alone like the suburban mall accessible only by 
car.  In addition, because of school protocols, there would be very limited 
inter-generational co-mingling until after school hours, if at all.

Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center

[melinda bruno-smith]

Hi Andy,
Wouldn't after-school programs be in the school?
melinda

From: Lincoln  on behalf of Andy Wang 

Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:38 AM
To: June L Matthews 
Cc: LincolnTalk ; Margaret P Flint 

Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center

In the discussion above, I'm unclear if folks are advocating for a community 
center (both COA and Parks & Rec) or a senior center (and keep Parks & Rec in 
the pods) in the spaces around Lincoln Station.  But just some additional food 
for thought, on the Parks and Rec side, I believe that it was viewed as 
important to keep spaces accessible to the school campus.  With the programs 
for kids, it is convenient for kids to be able to get to those programs easily. 
Not all kids are old enough to walk over by themselves.  LEAP also takes 
several of its kids over to the programs that parents sign up for and pick them 
up that may not be right after school.

- Andy




On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 8:15 AM June L Matthews 
mailto:matth...@mit.edu>> wrote:

Excellent statement,  Ken!  I hope that the proposal to change gears and 
consider a community center at Lincoln Station gains some traction. I would 
vote in favor of allocating funds to study this option.  After reading the many 
comments and thinking carefully about the issues, I would not vote in favor of 
allocating funds directed only toward the Hartwell proposals.  I can’t 
remember, ten years ago, what led to the choice of this location.  For all the 
reasons expressed by you and a few others, I believe that this choice, although 
well-intentioned, was misguided.  Let’s put the community center in the center 
of our community – accessible by foot or bike by many, and for those using 
their cars, adjacent to other essential services (groceries, post office, etc.)



June Matthews

Greenridge Lane



From: Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org>> On 
Behalf Of Ken Hurd
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 9:55 PM
To: LincolnTalk mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>
Cc: Margaret P Flint mailto:margaretpfl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: [LincolnTalk] Community Center



Hello LincolnTalkers,

I wish to applaud all those who have taken the time to revisit and question the 
financial pros and cons of building a community center at this time, and thanks 
particularly to those who have recently commented on the advisability of 
building it at the Hartwell site.



I fully support building a new facility, but it has long been my opinion that 
such a major investment by the town should be deployed where it is most needed 
- namely in the Lincoln Station area.  For more than ten years since Town 
Meeting approved the Comprehensive Long Range Plan, in which the revitalization 
of Lincoln Station was overwhelmingly one of the highest priorities, the area 
has lain dormant and in serious need of a catalyst to jumpstart its 
transformation into the compact, vital, walkable village center that was a 
stated goal at the time.  A community center in such a location would be the 
equivalent of an anchor store in a retail setting, and by virtue of attracting 
more people on a regular basis, it would create more opportunities for a 
clustered cross-current of activities spawning greater social interaction.



In my opinion, it would constitute the classic suburban planning error to 
create a new center that stands alone like the suburban mall accessible only by 
car.  In addition, because of school protocols, there would be very limited 
inter-generational co-mingling until after school hours, if at all.  And, even 
if there weren’t a greater  awareness about the effects of climate change, 
wouldn’t it make far more sense to locate a community center where there are 
already other crucial services such as the post office, grocery store, 
cleaners, a cafe and restaurant, etc.?



If the vote for more funding fails at the Special Town Meeting next Wednesday 
evening, November 30th, I urge residents, the Selects and the Planning Board to 
seriously reconsider Lincoln Station as the location that would best serve the 
interests and greater good of the town going forward.



Thank you for all those who have weighed in on this discussion.



Respectfully,

Ken Hurd

Lifting the Human Spirit by Design
781-259-3300
781-259-8900 cell
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On Nov 25, 2022, at 1:02 PM, John F. Carr 
mailto:voxsciuro...@gmail.com>> wrote:



I just skimmed over the 2015 report which is the foundation for what
we are discussing.

That report tried to steer people away from the Lincoln Station area.
One of the six options was to build on the commuter rail parking lot
and include an underground parking garage (the most expensive kind of
parking) to make up for lost parking.  Since then COVID killed
commuter rail.  The parking lot is just another town-owned vacant lot.

When you take the cost of an underground garage out of the picture,
the commuter rail parking lot becomes the cheapest 

Re: [LincolnTalk] The meaning of community

[melinda bruno-smith]

Interesting topic to explore…

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On Nov 25, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Margaret P Flint  wrote:

How about this idea for the Community Center: the building at the Mall at 
Lincoln Station now occupied by Something Special and Lincoln Dog Training.  

Several things in its favor:

  -It is across the street from Ryan Estates Greenridge, and adjacent to 
Lincoln Woods.

  -There are two restaurants adjacent which would eliminate the need for a food 
preparation area, a significant cost.  

  -Also, there is a grocery store right there, which would allow users to 
double up on car trips.

  -There is ample parking.

There are two downsides that I can think of.  I’m sure there are more.

  - Something Special would need to move.  But I see a for rent sign across the 
street.  Perhaps the cost of moving Something Special could be built into the 
cost of renovating for a Community Center.  The dog training facility is also   
 there, but it is my understanding that most of that work takes place 
outside the building.

  -The Rural Land Foundation would lose rent revenue.  

Thoughts?




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Re: [LincolnTalk] The meaning of community

[melinda bruno-smith]

Interesting topic the explore…

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On Nov 25, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Margaret P Flint  wrote:

How about this idea for the Community Center: the building at the Mall at 
Lincoln Station now occupied by Something Special and Lincoln Dog Training.  

Several things in its favor:

   -It is across the street from Ryan Estates Greenridge, and adjacent to 
Lincoln Woods.

   -There are two restaurants adjacent which would eliminate the need for a 
food preparation area, a significant cost.  

   -Also, there is a grocery store right there, which would allow users to 
double up on car trips.

   -There is ample parking.

There are two downsides that I can think of.  I’m sure there are more.

   - Something Special would need to move.  But I see a for rent sign across 
the street.  Perhaps the cost of moving Something Special could be built into 
the cost of renovating for a Community Center.  The dog training facility is 
alsothere, but it is my understanding that most of that work takes 
place outside the building.

   -The Rural Land Foundation would lose rent revenue.  

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Unanswered Community Center questions

[melinda bruno-smith]

Sara,
Do you know if those facilities are open to the public?
melinda

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On Nov 12, 2022, at 3:27 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:

 Laura,
Weston is almost 3X our size and a significantly bigger tax  base.

For all, it should be noted that our senior population grew substantially in 
2010 with the addition of what is now The Commons.
It also should ne noted that The Commons has wonderful facilities for programs, 
exercise and recreation.

Sara

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On Nov 12, 2022, at 11:41 AM, Laura Crosby  wrote:

Hi Karla,
Thanks for your message. I’d like to
mention one thing…..
Don’t know about your other statistics
here but do have one correction:
Weston MA does not have “an old
building  compared to Bemis.”
They have a beautiful, relatively new,
large building to house their community
activities including space for their COA.



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On Nov 12, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Karla Gravis  wrote:


Dear fellow Lincoln residents,

I have closely followed the discussion around the $25M Community Center 
proposal and would like to take the opportunity provided by the Committee’s 
Vision memorandum to expose what I see as flaws in the process of proposal 
selection.

We need to remember that building this Center will represent an average 9% 
increase in property taxes, which represents an additional $1,700 for the 
average Lincoln homeowner every year. There needs to be a valuable need and 
purpose to justify this burden on our families, and it is our duty to explore 
more cost-responsible alternatives.

The benchmarking process was based on a series of wrong assumptions. We lost 
track of what other towns of our size were doing, and instead created a list of 
requirements out of proportion to our size and needs. This project would build 
a more expensive and bigger building than those found in towns many times our 
population. Neighboring towns with populations up to three times ours do not 
build Community Centers; their COA and PRD’s facilities share modest dwellings 
with other town facilities, on a scale comparable to Bemis Hall or Pierce 
House. Even for those towns that do have a community center, the current 
Lincoln proposal is four times the median space per resident. The disproportion 
is similar when we consider dedicated COA space per senior resident.

This morning’s letter still does not clarify the expected use of a building of 
this scale. As has already been mentioned, a community is built by a shared 
purpose, not by a building. What we need is more volunteers who are interested 
in amplifying or creating communities of shared interest. We already have more 
than enough space and facilities across our brand-new school, Bemis Hall, the 
library and potentially Pierce House. Why not renovate the pods and use one of 
them for this purpose? Even refurbishing all three pods would be less than a 
fifth of the expense of the proposed new community center.

We struggle with a reduced commercial footprint. If folks are looking for a 
place to have a cup of coffee, eat something, and see some friendly faces, they 
can do that while they support local businesses like Twisted Tree or Tack Room.

The biggest issue I see with the communication sent this morning is the 
so-called disqualification of Bemis Hall and Pierce House as alternatives. At a 
State of the Town meeting eight years ago, a series of equivalent proposals, in 
size and cost, were put in front of attendees and they were asked to post a 
yellow dot on the poster representing their preferred option. Pierce House was 
one of the options proposed and there was nothing that disqualified it, as 
evidenced by the fact it was put to a vote. Attendees were forced to make a 
false choice between, among others, the Hartwell campus proposal, estimated at 
$9.5-13.5MM at the time, and a much-inflated Pierce House proposal, estimated 
at $8-11MM due to the plan to build an attached facility, excessive given our 
size. Pierce House was never objectively disqualified, but simply passed over 
when presented with a much cheaper Hartwell proposal.

The studies referenced in the memo were conducted as long as a decade ago. 
Obviously, there are a lot of new faces in town who might have different 
opinions on how resources should be allocated and even those who have stayed 
should have another say on the use of the town’s monies. Our resources now are 
not what they were at that time, and perhaps neither are our needs, so altered 
by new habits resulting from the pandemic. The cost of building the Center has 
also multiplied since then.

I urge residents to attend the Special Town Meeting in the Donaldson Auditorium 
on November 30th at 7:30pm, and vote. Up until recently, the CCBC seems to have 
been moving towards a narrow objective; it is imperative that a wide range of 
perspectives be heard.


TownPop.65+ COA/PRD/CC facility  COA/PRD/CC SqftSqft 
per resident   Dedicated COA

Re: [LincolnTalk] BPAC Zoom Forum tonight

[melinda bruno-smith]

I would be interested too
Thanks,
melinda

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On Nov 2, 2022, at 8:22 AM, Cindy  wrote:


Hi Deb,

Are minutes from previous meetings available?

Thanks,
Cindy Sheriff

On Nov 2, 2022, at 8:09 AM, Deborah Howe via Lincoln  
wrote:


Hi, Lincolnites ~

Lincoln’s Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee will be holding a Zoom 
forum tonight, one of a series of forums being held for residents of Lincoln’s 
East, West, North, and South quadrants. Tonight’s forum (at 7 pm) will be 
directed to and for the residents of Lincoln’s West quadrant (west of Lincoln 
and Bedford Roads), though anyone is welcome to participate. Here’s a link to 
the agenda:

https://www.lincolntown.org/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Agenda/_11022022-4706

BOAC has been working hard to develop a master plan for bicycle transit through 
and in Lincoln, and have put together this forum series as part of its public 
process. The issues they’re discussing will likely have significant impact on 
Lincoln for the foreseeable future; if you are a walker or cyclist or driver, 
or have any interest in how transportation corridors of all sorts in Lincoln 
are used, this is your chance to ask questions and offer your take.

This will be the last BPAC forum; in previous weeks they have held forums 
focused on the East, North, and South quadrants. The group wants you to 
understand their aims and work, and want to understand your views; I strongly 
recommending attending tonight’s forum if you can. Here’s the Zoom link:

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/85106721050?pwd=NCtBNENMb0h5RXh2VnJpblZsWkNUZz09

Deb Howe

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Tack Room

[melinda bruno-smith]

I spoke to the chef about the wilted salads and expressed my disappointment in 
changing the original salmon recipe.  Not much more on the menu I can eat.

Next time I will ask why they changed the chairs on the patio.
The new chairs are very small and uncomfortable…yada yada yada.

Melinda

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On Sep 9, 2022, at 6:05 AM, Gretchen Covino  wrote:

 Yes….While eating there, I had to return the salmon twice to further cook the 
rubbery center.   Finally left and came home to cook it more.   Haven’t been 
back.

Thank you and be safe.
Gretchen
978-771-9767


On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:42 PM, Linda McMillan  wrote:


I, too, ordered chicken wings that were not fully cooked. I've never been back.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2022, 8:29 PM JACQUELINE SASSO via Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>> wrote:

Is anyone experiencing poor quality in the take out food from the Tack Room?  
We try to give them business so Lincoln doesn’t lose the only restaurant but 
more than not we have gotten chicken wings that were not fully cooked, rubbery 
chicken sandwiches, the the burgers cannot be specified well done, medium, 
etc., are mostly raw and the menu online is not updated and the already 
stressed person who takes the phone order.

Thoughts, comments….

Jackey

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Bikes on bike paths where they belong?

[melinda bruno-smith]

I had no idea those were bikes paths.
When we first moved to town 9 years ago, we were looking for bike paths —it 
became too confusing.
We bike out of town.  Personally, I prefer asphalt paths without cars.
melinda

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On Jul 6, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Kathy Madison via Lincoln  
wrote:

 That’s right! I recall when I was new to Lincoln asking my husband why bike 
riders were riding on the sidewalks and he replied, “those are bike paths!”

On Jul 5, 2022, at 10:03 PM, Stephanie Smoot 
mailto:stephanieesm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

 "Roadside Paths" are the paved asphalt sidewalks that follow the natural topo 
and vegetation that have been in place for about 50 years.  Not to be confused 
with the unpaved trails in the conservation area the mountain bikers would like 
additional  access to.
Regards,
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On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 9:28 PM Toby Frost 
mailto:tan...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
On 7/5/22 6:31 PM, Diana Abrashkin wrote:
What we call "sidewalks" were conceived as bike paths. Are walking paths 
"trails?"
Maybe we need to consult older documents to determine the right descriptions.

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Good point, Diana!

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Re: [LincolnTalk] biking on conservation land

[melinda bruno-smith]

Yes Margaret, and that circles back to a point brought up at one of the 
meetings.  Should there be destination bike trails--so that if one wanted to 
bike into town or to school that is possible.
melinda

From: Lincoln  on behalf of Margaret Olson 

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 12:32 PM
To: John Kimball 
Cc: conservat...@lincolntown.org ; Lincoln Talk 

Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] biking on conservation land

Some thoughts. There are people who do not want bikes on the trails. There are 
people who do not want bikes on the roads. There are people who do not want 
bikes on the roadside paths. There are people who do not think we should build 
more roadside paths, let alone bike trails.

Bikes are a much much more environmentally friendly way to get from place to 
place than a car.

Margaret


On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 11:43 AM John Kimball 
mailto:selen...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
John Kimball, here since 1972. I have voted for every conservation purchase 
since, and have very little sympathy for bikes on conservation land. Bikes do 
not use the roadside paths but feel entitled to use the roads, and I have no 
confidence that they would confine themselves to approved conservation trails. 
For example, I see no need to allow them in the idyllic Adams Woods. Quincy 
would roll over in his grave.
Speed seems to be the norm for bikes and the thrill of going downhill over 
rocks and roots. Look out below for all mere pedestrians. Bikes should not be 
allowed on any narrow paths where they may run into walkers and especially 
children. Bikes and dogs are even more incompatible. I strongly oppose the vast 
proposed expansion of bike trails.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] biking on conservation land

[melinda bruno-smith]

I agree with on this statement Joan--thanks for posting.
melinda

Bikes should not be allowed on any narrow paths where they may run into walkers 
and especially children. Bikes and dogs are even more incompatible.


From: Lincoln  on behalf of John Kimball 

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 11:43 AM
To: conservat...@lincolntown.org ; 
lincoln@lincolntalk.org 
Subject: [LincolnTalk] biking on conservation land

John Kimball, here since 1972. I have voted for every conservation purchase 
since, and have very little sympathy for bikes on conservation land. Bikes do 
not use the roadside paths but feel entitled to use the roads, and I have no 
confidence that they would confine themselves to approved conservation trails. 
For example, I see no need to allow them in the idyllic Adams Woods. Quincy 
would roll over in his grave.
Speed seems to be the norm for bikes and the thrill of going downhill over 
rocks and roots. Look out below for all mere pedestrians. Bikes should not be 
allowed on any narrow paths where they may run into walkers and especially 
children. Bikes and dogs are even more incompatible. I strongly oppose the vast 
proposed expansion of bike trails.
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[LincolnTalk] Cancelling Yoga today Station Park rainy/wet

[melinda bruno-smith]

Hi everyone,

Cancelling Yoga today at Station Park (across from Farmers Market) because of 
rainy/wet conditions.
Hope to see you next week.

We will continue through the month of July--Saturday mornings 9-10AM.

Happy 4th!

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Re: [LincolnTalk] INF Scottish Fiddler & Cellist were Fabulous!

[melinda bruno-smith]

Agreed, thank you!

melinda bruno-smith

From: Lincoln  on behalf of Lynne Smith 

Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 8:36 AM
To: Lincoln 
Subject: [LincolnTalk] INF Scottish Fiddler & Cellist were Fabulous!


Thank you to the Lincoln Library and Lisa Rothenberg  for bringing last 
night’s great performance to the Pierce House tent.  The young performers, 
siblings Elizabeth and Ben Anderson, were highly trained and a joy to listen to 
and watch. The lively reels made me want to dance  and the rapid tempo made my 
heart race!  All this and perfect weather with families on the lawn and comfy 
chairs under the tent made for a very special Lincoln night. What a wonderful 
town we live in!

Lynne Smith
5 Tabor Hill Road
Lincoln, MA 01773
781-258-1175
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to postpone and impact on walkers and nature

[melinda bruno-smith]

"Connectivity" as pointed out in last nights meeting, seems an important 
point--to create a network that would assist commuting around town.  There are 
many times I would like to walk or ride into "town" and not have to deal with 
the car roads.

Melinda Bruno-Smith


From: Lincoln  on behalf of Leslie Turek 

Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 5:24 PM
To: Margaret Olson 
Cc:  ; Barbara Peskin 

Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Corrected - Trail Use Proposal - not too late to 
postpone and impact on walkers and nature

Someone at the open meeting made a good point. The local bike riders want to 
have expanded bike trails in order to have a network that would assist them to 
commute around town without having to ride on the dangerous narrow roads. A 
perfectly reasonable request. But the trails that were designated in the 
proposed plan were small dense networks, such as at Mt. Misery, that really 
didn't help much to help with that goal. I would like to see a plan that was 
specifically focussed on allowing people to travel around town, so that there 
would be only one bike-allowed trail through a specific area, with the rest of 
the trails reserved for walkers only.

Leslie Turek

On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 5:18 PM Margaret Olson 
mailto:marga...@margaretolson.com>> wrote:
To put paths along all our major roads with no paths currently would require a 
serious commitment by the town. It could be done, but we would need to either 
spend very large amounts of money or make the roads with problems (limited 
right of way, ledge, wetlands) one way in order to devote a lane to a path. We 
would also need to remove most of the slip lanes. The majority of major roads 
with no path currently have a problem. Short of that level of commitment the 
trails are part of the network to get around town on foot or on bike.

For a data point, a roadside path on Weston road had a rough estimate of 7-8 
million assuming we could acquire the easements.



On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:56 PM Jennifer Goodman 
mailto:jgood...@antioch.edu>> wrote:
No one’s arguing whether bikes should exist in our town. But Amsterdam is a 
city. Mt Misery is the woods. Let’s keep bikes on sidewalks and roads, as they 
are in Boston. It does feel dangerous to me to have them on the trails. When 
I’m walking with bikes around, I hear the ‘on your left’ about a nanosecond 
before they are on top of me, and it's impossible to react in time. In what way 
is this an improvement? And will all the dogs at Mt Misery react fast enough, 
or in the right direction to get out of the way? Sounds like a mess waiting to 
happen. Especially if it’s “mostly kids." And I thought the ticks were the 
biggest challenge about a walk at Mt Misery. Well, maybe it’s aptly named after 
all?

On Jun 1, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Margaret Olson 
mailto:marga...@margaretolson.com>> wrote:

Thanks Doug - that's a great reminder that what we're talking about when it 
comes to bikes on trails in Lincoln in 2022 is mostly kids with some adults on 
errands and short casual trips. The serious mountain bikers aren't interested. 
I'm guessing, but this is probably why our neighboring towns have no problems; 
their trails aren't any more compelling to an adult than ours are.


On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:00 PM Doug Carson 
mailto:dougcarso...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I think Margaret makes some great points here...

Not only was Lincoln Guide Service attracting cyclists to Lincoln, but mountain 
biking was a relatively new sport in the 90s.  Boston folks were coming to the 
Lincoln trails to *try* mountain biking.  Those days are long gone...not 
because bikes are banned from most of our trails (as Margaret points out, 
Weston & Concord permit bikes on trails, yet they're not overrun with 
riders)...but because the sport has grown up.  And as lovely as our trails are, 
they are not much of a mountain biking destination anymore.  There are far too 
many better destinations that attract Boston mountain bikers.
As our town thinks about this issue, let's keep in mind that with increasing 
traffic and gas prices, and of course the environmental issues, the more cars 
off the road, the better.  Now imagine you can avoid one more drive to the post 
office, school, the library, Donelans, etc. because you could now use a mix of 
roads AND trails to get around town...I believe that would be a more desirable 
place to live.
There are growing pains with any change (and rude people wherever you go).  I 
recall visiting Amsterdam a few years ago with all the people biking everywhere 
there; I almost got run over on several occasions!  But as a pedestrian there, 
I quickly figured out how to navigate.  Point being that even good change takes 
some time to get used to it!

Doug Carson


On Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 01:34:17 PM EDT, Margaret Olson 
mailto:marga...@margaretolson.com>> wrote:


I'd like to remind everyone that bikes are permitted on 

[LincolnTalk] small refrigerator needed

[melinda bruno-smith]

Hi neighbors,

Does anyone have a small refrigerator we can borrow for a week while our 
kitchen floor is being redone?

Thanks
Melinda & Ralph
781 275 2989

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Snake ID

[melinda bruno-smith]

Any suggestions on how to learn to love these creatures or least accept them 
without fear?

Thanks,
Melinda


From: Lincoln  on behalf of RAandBOB 

Sent: Monday, May 30, 2022 11:52 AM
To: Deborah Wallace 
Cc: Lincoln Talk 
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Snake ID

How can I get one? I have lots of voles and lots of mice.

Ruth Ann
(She, her, hers)

On May 30, 2022, at 11:31 AM, Deborah Wallace  wrote:


Milk snakes are primarily carnivorous, and they consume a wide variety of prey, 
including mammals and birds. Their most common food source is mice, rats, voles 
and other rodents that are primarily found in agricultural areas. They even eat 
lizards, snakes, snake eggs and bird eggs. When food is less readily available, 
they may also consume their dangerous look-alike cousin, the coral snake!

https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/animals/what-are-milk-snakes.html

On May 30, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Sara Mattes  wrote:

All,
Do these feed on mice and small rodents…or chicken eggs?

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On May 30, 2022, at 9:55 AM, 
mailto:debwallace...@gmail.com>> 
mailto:debwallace...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Martha-

I believe it’s an Eastern Milk snake.  From your picture,  it might be this 
variety, but they have many striking patterns and they are nonvenomous. I have 
one that’s taken up residence in an hollowed out tree trunk.

Deb



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From: Martha Johnson mailto:mrexj...@yahoo.com>>
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2022 8:55 PM
To: Lincoln Talk mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>
Subject: [LincolnTalk] Snake ID

Does anyone know what kind of snake this is?  It's been curled up like this all 
afternoon and into the early evening in a pool pump shed.  For size reference, 
the light bulb is a basic incandescent.  Snake looks to me much bigger than 
basic garter snake.

Martha Johnson
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Seeking primary care physician

[melinda bruno-smith]

Jonathan,
I am so glad you brought this up.

My beloved primary care physician just retired and I too am seeking a new 
primary care physician.  I was part of the Mt Auburn network but now looking to 
change to Emerson.  I prefer a woman, sensitive to the needs of older adults.

Any strong recommendations?

Many thanks,
melinda

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On May 26, 2022, at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Feinberg  wrote:


For 18 years, I've been a patient of Harvard Vanguard, Somerville. They have 
many clinics across the region, and offer in-house lab work, radiology, and 
many specialties. In 2015, there was a multi-clinic reorganization that unified 
a bunch of systems into one, Atrius Health.

Since then, the quality of administration there has steadily declined (though I 
have no complaint about the quality of clinicians). Now, one can no longer find 
a primary care provider. Doctors are leaving, and it's hard even to speak to 
anyone.

I'm seeking primary care nearby. I'm willing to sacrifice integrated urgent 
care and lab work for good administration and excellent care. I'm happy to see 
a nurse practitioner.

Thanks,
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Bemis Meeting Election Integrity Analysis and Discussion

[melinda bruno-smith]

PS: Al Gore yielded to George Bush.  How different our history would have been.
melinda

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On May 6, 2022, at 11:36 AM, melinda bruno-smith  
wrote:

 I think this comes down to  a clash between Trump Republican values and Biden 
Democratic values.
We need a Moderate Leader.

Personally, I admit whether the election was stolen or not, I did not and do 
not want to support Trump in a second turn.

My two cents,
Melinda

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On May 6, 2022, at 11:27 AM, Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln 
 wrote:


I think you are trying to shut down others’ free speech. It feels a little bit 
like bullying.

NO ONE needs to be afraid to express their opinions here and frankly when it 
comes to certain far right organizations, many people do feel that “delusional” 
is the academically accurate term.

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On Friday, May 6, 2022, 11:22 AM, Richard Panetta  
wrote:

This is a private forum and rules need to be followed.

I take this remark as sarcastic as I’m sure most people know the rules here



On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 11:17 AM Joanna Owen Schmergel 
mailto:owenjoa...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
But what about Nicholas’s right to free speech??


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On Friday, May 6, 2022, 11:14 AM, Richard Panetta 
mailto:richardpane...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Please be respectful of others opinions , calling people delusional is not 
civil and should be against forum rules



On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 11:06 AM Nicholas Ribush 
mailto:nickrib...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The 2020 election was the most secure in US 
history.<https://www.vox.com/2020/11/13/21563825/2020-elections-most-secure-dhs-cisa-krebs>

Keshel and his supporters are delusional. 
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/10/fact-check-8-million-excess-biden-votes-werent-counted-2020/5512962001/>



On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 10:58 AM Stephanie Smoot 
mailto:stephanieesm...@gmail.com>> wrote:



I enjoyed last nights  meeting and feel encouraged to speak out against all the 
negative emails I had been receiving.   I found the perspectives refreshing on 
the issue of election integrity, a subject that is causing controversy in our 
country.  I left with the takeaway that fair elections, and the perception that 
the election process is fair, is something we should all be concerned about.


The event was well-attended.   Trends in voting data and on how to improve 
voting integrity in the future was presented intelligently.  Anyone who was not 
completely polemicized, could also have attended and found it thought 
provoking, and not scary.  I even got to meet the candidate for congress in 
district 5 (thats our district), Caroline Colarusso .



I don’t know who attended from Lincoln since I don’t know many people here.  
Some of the data was from Rhode Island examples, that might be why some RI 
people attended. I’m glad my family gave me time from my other duties to step 
out and attend.


Stephanie Smoot



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Re: [LincolnTalk] Bemis Meeting Election Integrity Analysis and Discussion

[melinda bruno-smith]

I think this comes down to  a clash between Trump Republican values and Biden 
Democratic values.
We need a Moderate Leader.

Personally, I admit whether the election was stolen or not, I did not and do 
not want to support Trump in a second turn.

My two cents,
Melinda

Sent from my iPhone
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On May 6, 2022, at 11:27 AM, Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln 
 wrote:


I think you are trying to shut down others’ free speech. It feels a little bit 
like bullying.

NO ONE needs to be afraid to express their opinions here and frankly when it 
comes to certain far right organizations, many people do feel that “delusional” 
is the academically accurate term.

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone<https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>


On Friday, May 6, 2022, 11:22 AM, Richard Panetta  
wrote:

This is a private forum and rules need to be followed.

I take this remark as sarcastic as I’m sure most people know the rules here



On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 11:17 AM Joanna Owen Schmergel 
mailto:owenjoa...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
But what about Nicholas’s right to free speech??


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On Friday, May 6, 2022, 11:14 AM, Richard Panetta 
mailto:richardpane...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Please be respectful of others opinions , calling people delusional is not 
civil and should be against forum rules



On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 11:06 AM Nicholas Ribush 
mailto:nickrib...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The 2020 election was the most secure in US 
history.<https://www.vox.com/2020/11/13/21563825/2020-elections-most-secure-dhs-cisa-krebs>

Keshel and his supporters are delusional. 
<https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/10/fact-check-8-million-excess-biden-votes-werent-counted-2020/5512962001/>



On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 10:58 AM Stephanie Smoot 
mailto:stephanieesm...@gmail.com>> wrote:



I enjoyed last nights  meeting and feel encouraged to speak out against all the 
negative emails I had been receiving.   I found the perspectives refreshing on 
the issue of election integrity, a subject that is causing controversy in our 
country.  I left with the takeaway that fair elections, and the perception that 
the election process is fair, is something we should all be concerned about.


The event was well-attended.   Trends in voting data and on how to improve 
voting integrity in the future was presented intelligently.  Anyone who was not 
completely polemicized, could also have attended and found it thought 
provoking, and not scary.  I even got to meet the candidate for congress in 
district 5 (thats our district), Caroline Colarusso .



I don’t know who attended from Lincoln since I don’t know many people here.  
Some of the data was from Rhode Island examples, that might be why some RI 
people attended. I’m glad my family gave me time from my other duties to step 
out and attend.


Stephanie Smoot



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Re: [LincolnTalk] Pizza places

[melinda bruno-smith]

We love Country Pizza
161 Lincoln Road
781 259 4480

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On Apr 28, 2022, at 5:21 PM, Elizabeth Maciolek  
wrote:

Any recommendations for good pizza in our area?

Elizabeth Maciolek 
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[LincolnTalk] Lincoln Spring 2022 Gentle Hatha Yoga Virtual & In-Person-4 week sessions

[melinda bruno-smith]

Happy Spring dear neighbors,

I hope this email finds you well and in good spirits.
Registration is now open for April/May yoga classes through Lincoln Parks & 
Recreation.  Please follow the link below.
If you have any questions feel free to contact me.

Best,
Melinda Bruno-Smith


Spring Virtual Hatha Yoga
4 Tuesdays, April 26 - May 17, 9-10 AM
4 Wednesdays, April 27 - May 18, 4-5 PM
4 Thursdays, April 28 - May 19, 9-10 AM


Spring In-person Outdoor Hatha Yoga @ Pierce Park/Lincoln
4 Thursdays, May 26 - June 16,  4-5 PM


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Re: [LincolnTalk] Please reconsider

[melinda bruno-smith]

Yes, Ralph and I agree, Dennis has fall victim to our “cancel culture.”
Sad indeed.
Melinda & Ralph

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On Mar 31, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Pat Gray  wrote:

 I too am concerned about cutting off thoughtful conversations about topics of 
interest. Those who spent time sharing with us their information and ideas do 
us a service. I learn new things and sometimes even modify my position:)
Diversity and inclusion isn’t just about race or class it is also being open to 
hearing and appreciating different perspectives and ideas. And then digging 
deeper to understand why people hold different point of view.

Quite honestly it’s very difficult to find situations where people can share 
different perspectives without being shunned. This intolerance of the ‘other' 
is a key factor in creating the dangerous divide in our country.

It would be great if instead of following lock step what others are doing, 
shutting down anyone who disagrees with them, we instead model and openness and 
interest in having robust debates and conversations. Our youth need better 
adult role models showing them how to deal with, and benefit from, having an 
openness to hearing different perspectives.

Pat Gray



On Mar 31, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Daniela Caride 
mailto:danielacar...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hear hear!! I learn a lot from Dennis. And even though I seldom agree with what 
he says, I appreciate his opinion. I would like to see everyone have a chance 
to politely speak here.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 6:44 PM Seth Rosen 
mailto:rosen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I personally find Dennis’ contributions to be thoughtful, articulate, 
well-supported and respectful.  He spends a great deal of time on them, which I 
respect and appreciate.  I enjoy reading his notes, and if I don’t wish to, I 
also simply move along.

His views are sometimes unpopular, but in many “conversations” he’s the only 
person pushing a counter-narrative. And a lot of times he’s correct.

Candidly I’ve noticed this trend myself — those with a more conservative or 
fundamentally different view simply seem to disengage from this forum.  In a 
town that purports to celebrate and cultivate diversity, it feels to me that we 
should be welcoming Dennis’ contributions.

I hope he’ll reconsider his participation

Seth Rosen


On Mar 31, 2022, at 6:27 PM, V Saleme 
mailto:bmwkbi...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Very well stated Richard. A slippery slope has been woven.

Vic

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 5:52 PM Richard Panetta 
mailto:richardpane...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dennis,

When I saw this email I was miffed as to why you would have been put on 
moderation as your posted are always well thought out,  thorough (sometimes too 
thorough), always given links to your sources. I and many others have found you 
comments informative. There was maybe one instance when you and another former 
Selectman went back and forth similar to this yet neither of you were put on 
moderation

There were many responses stating they enjoyed the back and forth. Neither one 
of you were rude or disrespectful of each other so who knows.

It would be a shame to lose your posts on subjects and the time and care you 
put into topics you comment on. I hope you take some time and decide to 
comeback and offer your thoughts to important topics.


I too have noticed that an opposing view gets treated differently so I can not 
blame you for feeling frustrated. Perhaps some management here have gone “nose 
deaf” to their friends and opinions they agree with. But as you said it is 
their sandbox and they may do as they wish. Hopefully you won’t mind jumping 
back in said sandbox and getting a little dirty again

Best wishes

Rich


On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 1:20 PM Dennis Liu 
mailto:bigheadden...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Howdy, folks – this email is going out to Lincolntalk, but also to some local 
friends (and the Lincolntalk moderators: Margit, Jena and Jonathan) directly, 
since I have been put into the moderation queue so I am unsure if anyone will 
see this.

With the back-and-forth with Paul Shorb regarding the proposed new laws 
affecting construction in Lincoln and climate change, I seem to have violated 
one or more tenets of the Lincoln Talk rules and policies 
(https://www.lincolntalk.org/rules-and-policies).

I made my last post on the topic last night, only to discover that I had been 
put into moderation without warning.  (N.b., since I replied to Paul directly, 
and he replied to the List this morning, you may have seen indirectly my last 
post, since the moderators apparently only put me on moderation and not him; if 
any of you is curious about how I left it, you can read Paul’s message, or feel 
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[LincolnTalk] Notary recommendation

[melinda bruno-smith]

Hi neighbors
Recommendations for a local notary?
Thanks,
melinda

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Identifying a snake.

[melinda bruno-smith]

snakes—yikes!

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On Mar 11, 2022, at 4:04 PM, Eric Zimmerman  wrote:


Could be an Eastern Milk Snake.

"The eastern milk snake has a mottled grey, brown, and reddish body. This 
non-venomous snake is often confused for a rattlesnake, but it lacks the 
rattle, keeled scales, and cat-like pupils. It's found in fields, woodlands, 
rocky hillsides, and wetland edges, and primarily eats small mammals."
https://www.massaudubon.org/learn/nature-wildlife/reptiles-amphibians/snakes/snake-species-in-massachusetts

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I’ve done just the briefest bit of research and it looks like a Timber snake to 
me. I hope I’m wrong because they are highly venomous. I believe it’s living in 
a hollowed out tree trunk.

I’d also like suggestions about whom to call to do a catch and release if it 
comes to that.

Any help will be much appreciated!

Deborah

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Re: [LincolnTalk] arborist

[melinda bruno-smith]

We have been very pleased with Tree Specialists/Holliston.
They work with Garden in the Woods.
Melinda

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On Mar 3, 2022, at 9:20 AM, Deborah Howe via Lincoln  
wrote:


Hi, Colleen —

Massachusetts has some really excellent arborists! I’m a landscape architect, 
and regularly call on a couple of companies for tree work :

Matt Foti (https://fotitreeandlandscape.com/) is based in Lexington

Barrett Tree East (https://www.barretttreeeast.com/) has a Newton yard and a 
Medford yard.

Both have knowledgeable crews that have been with the company for years (a good 
sign), and both are very well-respected in the arboricultural world.

Deb


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Re: [LincolnTalk] An important question about doggie poop bags (DPBs)

[melinda bruno-smith]

yes for trash receptacles--brilliant!
melinda


From: Lincoln  on behalf of Jenniemorris via 
Lincoln 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 12:28 PM
To: Donald Hafner 
Cc: lincolntalk.org 
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] An important question about doggie poop bags (DPBs)

Totally with you on this one, Don! We seems to be seeing the poop bags much 
more often now. Maybe signage would help?

On Feb 15, 2022 at 12:05 PM, mailto:haf...@bc.edu>> wrote:

One of the paradoxes of putting out trash receptacles is that then people use 
them, not just for things on the trail but often for all other manner of stuff 
they want to discard — which means now someone has to be tasked with regularly 
emptying them.  I like the Scouts’ motto: “If you carry it in, carry it back 
out.”  In the case of dogs, if they carry it in, their owners should carry it 
out.  ;-)

Don

On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Barbara Low 
mailto:barbara_...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

I don't have a dog in this fight, but the availability of trash receptacles 
along trails would help with proper disposal.

Barbara Low

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From: Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org>> on 
behalf of Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:22:03 AM
To: Leslie Turek mailto:leslie.tu...@gmail.com>>; NANCY 
TORTI mailto:nant...@verizon.net>>
Cc: mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>> 
mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] An important question about doggie poop bags (DPBs)

It is hard not to feel disrespected when one finds a knotted plastic dog poo 
bag close to or on one’s property….even if it wasn’t meant to be personal…


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On Tuesday, February 15, 2022, 11:15 AM, Leslie Turek 
mailto:leslie.tu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It's rather appalling to me that someone would leave bags of poop anywhere, 
especially along someone's driveway. I understand the annoyance factor of 
carrying the bags on a long walk, but perhaps they could come equipped with a 
fanny pack or something similar to carry it in conveniently? Or do a short loop 
for the dog to do its thing before setting out on a longer trail walk? Many dog 
owners seem to have found a way to manage this.
Leslie

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 10:17 AM NANCY TORTI via Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>> wrote:
Thanks for asking about this.

Our driveway/lane serves as access to the Beaver Pond trails, and we frequently 
find used bags that are left behind and end up picking them up ourselves. To 
say the least, this is troubling, and IMHO anyone taking a dog on the trails 
should assume responsibility for appropriate disposal of the waste.

Thank you!
Nancy Torti

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> On Feb 14, 2022, at 9:30 PM, Julia Altman 
> mailto:jaltman1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> 
> Is it okay to leave used/filled bags along our trails? I have always assumed 
> the purpose of DPBs was to clean up after our beloved canine companions AND 
> then carry the DPBs with us off the trail to the nearest trash receptacle.
>
> But perhaps I've been wrong all these years? Because I find used DPBs out on 
> the trails with some frequency, even in these frigid temps.
>
> Can anyone enlighten me on DBP best practices?
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincolnopoly

[melinda bruno-smith]

Is this still on the market?  Can one buy the game?
melinda


From: Lincoln  on behalf of Susan Stason 

Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 8:39 AM
To: DEBBY ADAMS 
Cc: Lincoln@lincolntalk.org 
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincolnopoly

I have an extra Lincolnopoly game you may have.
Sue Stason
29 Sandy Pond Rd
259-8939

On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 8:12 AM DEBBY ADAMS via Lincoln 
mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>> wrote:
Does anyone have a Lincolnopoly game they no longer want for a 7 year old 
Monopoly fan?
Thanks.


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[LincolnTalk] Yoga in the New Year 2022

[melinda bruno-smith]

Happy New Year Neighbors,

Please join a small group of us as we open to the new year with a gentle yoga 
practice.
We stretch, strengthen, and balance body, mind, and spirit.
Regenerative, positive, and relaxing
we motivate and support each other as we navigate the new year ahead.

Registration is open for virtual hatha yoga classes through Lincoln Parks and 
Recreation.
Classes begin the week of January 11.

All the best,
Melinda Bruno-Smith

https://lincolnma.myrec.com/info/activities/program_details.aspx?ProgramID=29925
Lincoln Parks and Recreation: Hatha Yoga - 
Virtual<https://lincolnma.myrec.com/info/activities/program_details.aspx?ProgramID=29925>
In this live zoom class, we will practice yoga postures (asanas) and deep 
breathing to renew our vitality, agility, strength and balance. Explore 
modifying or deepening the postures to open and relax your body, focus and clam 
your mind.
lincolnma.myrec.com

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[LincolnTalk] Fabric recycle bin

[melinda bruno-smith]

Howdy neighbors
Anyone know where the fabric recycle bin on school campus has been moved to?
Thanks
melinda

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[LincolnTalk] Happy Thanksgiving

[melinda bruno-smith]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

A poem by Jan Richardson.

melinda & ralph smith


Blessing of Hope

So may we know
the hope
that is not just
for someday
but for this day—
here, now,
in this moment
that opens to us:

hope not made
of wishes
but of substance,

hope made of sinew
and muscle
and bone,

hope that has breath
and a beating heart,

hope that will not
keep quiet
and be polite,

hope that knows
how to holler
when it is called for,

hope that knows
how to sing
when there seems
little cause,

hope that raises us
from the dead—

not someday
but this day,
every day,
again and
again and
again.

—Jan Richardson

from The Cure for Sorrow: A Book of Blessings for Times of 
Grief


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[LincolnTalk] FOR SALE: Queen Platform Bed

[melinda bruno-smith]

Very lightly used Queen Shaker Platform Bed --Moondance Natural Cherry Wood 
with or without firm memory foam mattress.
Purchased from Circle Furniture.  They no longer carry queen size--link to the 
twin bed frame below.
$150.
Ralph Smith
ralphosm...@verizon.net


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Circle Furniture - Woodforms Shaker Twin Bed Moondance Cherry Wood | Circle 
Furniture
With its arched headboard and clean lines, the Moondance Shaker Twin Bed boasts 
a simple yet tasteful aesthetic. It sits elevated off the ground, showcasing 
its sturdy frame, and adds warmth to any room from its natural cherry tones.
www.circlefurniture.com

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Re: [LincolnTalk] SSEF daffodils need sun?

[melinda bruno-smith]

Love that idea!

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On Nov 8, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Robin Wilkerson  
wrote:

 Yes daffodils prefer some sun - they should bloom reliably next spring 
without sun, but in order for them to return year after year, at least some sun 
would help. The nice thing about daffodils - beyond their most cheering arrival 
- is that they are unbothered by squirrels and chipmunks.  I planted most of my 
SSEF bulbs in weatherproof pots on the porch, and will plant them out next 
summer after they finish blooming.

Good luck! Robin

Robin Wilkerson
31 Old Winter St.
Lincoln, MA 01773
outsideinformat...@gmail.com<mailto:outsideinformat...@gmail.com>


On Nov 8, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Ellen Meyer Shorb 
mailto:meyersh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Did anyone else order daffodil bulbs from SSEF, for their fundraiser, and know 
what kind of daffodils these bulbs are? Is it true that daffodils need sun or 
partial sun? We don't have much of that here, wondering what others' experience 
is.
Thanks, Ellen Meyer Shorb
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[LincolnTalk] Coyotes

[melinda bruno-smith]

Yes, earlier this week, as I was leaving Lincoln Mall parking lot, I saw a 
coyote en route front Clark 
Gallery to Station Park …

melinda

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On Aug 21, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Burch - Mudry Realty Team 
 wrote:

Good Morning,
On Tuesday Evening, 7:15, I parked at the Lincoln Cemetery for a walk on the 
conservation trails nearby.  After several minutes of walking towards the far 
side of the farmland, I heard first one, then two then 6? 7? Coyotes nearby in 
the woods, just out of sight:  barking and howling.
Needless to say I, and my 9 lb. poodle, ran back to the car!
My 100 lb. German Shepherd recently passed so, I don’t think I’ll be going out 
at dusk anymore on the trails with my little one.
Enjoy this day.
Marilyn


From: Lincoln  On Behalf Of Lisa Cummings via 
Lincoln
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2021 8:24 AM
To: Rich Rosenbaum 
Cc: LincolnTalk.org 
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Coyote Todd Pond Rd

Two days in a row early afternoon in our backyard in North Lincoln:(
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On Aug 21, 2021, at 8:04 AM, Rich Rosenbaum 
mailto:r...@bcdef.com>> wrote:

I've seen a coyote midday in south Lincoln a few times recently. One time it 
was walking down the train tracks with a cat-sized animal in its jaws (I didn't 
get a close look). You may want to keep an eye on your outdoor cats.

I've attached a picture of it going down Lewis Street.

Rich

[cid:image002.jpg@01D7966E.E7034880]

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:01 AM Susan Taylor 
mailto:svhtay...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Coyote at 43 Todd pond Rd 11 AM Friday. Looks healthy & at ease

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Seeking Doggie Daycare and Boarding

[melinda bruno-smith]

We have been happy with Palmer Kennels in Acton.
melinda

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On Aug 3, 2021, at 8:03 AM, Rosemary Lloyd  wrote:


Hello, Dog Lovers,
Have you found a nearby doggie daycare you love? And where do you leave your 
faithful companion if you are away for several days? Thanks for your 
recommendations (and "steer clear" advice, too).


Rosemary Lloyd

C 617 -359-3372




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Re: [LincolnTalk] T-Mobile?

[melinda bruno-smith]

I agree At
T-Mobile may be less reliable.
melinda


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On Jul 26, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:

Don’t know about but can report excellent coverage and service from AT…at 
least at my part of town (east side, off 117 near DJ) and driving most parts of 
 town.

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> On Jul 25, 2021, at 9:08 PM, Kristine Barker  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> We are thinking of changing wireless carriers from Verizon to T-Mobile. Does 
> anyone have any particular issues with T-Mobile’s coverage in and around 
> Lincoln?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kristine 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] a walk this afternoon

[melinda bruno-smith]

Such lovely thoughts and questions Moira.  I too have been wondering how to 
make these small updates to our town happen.
Best, Melinda

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On Jul 25, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Lindentreefarm Csa  wrote:


Hi all,
today we parked at Codman House, walked through the amazing  vegetable gardens 
at Codman Farm, visited the brooder house to see all the baby chickens running 
around and then on to Clark Gallery in their new location.  Bright and light 
and beautiful and full of lovely paintings.  It was a very "civilised"  walk 
and made me wish that some where we could have walked to have tea and afternoon 
delights, and in general a restaurant in our empty space at the mall. I also 
wondered about the occasional bench along the bike path.  My elderly parents 
were happy walking the long trek to the library and back from our house but 
would have enjoyed a bench or two along the way.
Benches designed by Lincolnites?  An art project for the town?
Small thoughts on this very lovely rainyish afternoon.
Moira
Lindentree Farm
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

[melinda bruno-smith]

not Whole Foods—Amazon.
Whole Foods has become a generic, unimaginative version of Bread and Circus.

  I remember the first health food store in nyc city —spring street in 
soho—creative, experimental, knowledgeable, purposeful, a little more 
expensive—somewhat like Codman…

my two cents
melinda

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On Jul 14, 2021, at 9:16 AM, Anne Warner  wrote:


Stepping back from the commentary for a moment:  my sister was up visiting me 
in Lincoln recently, and I took her by Codman Farms.  She looked at the 
pricing, and was actually pretty shocked.  The prices were so much higher than 
even the most expensive of the local markets (Whole Foods) for identical foods, 
including organic items.  Her comment was "I guess I shouldn't be surprised. 
This is Lincoln, after all."  Really gave me pause

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 9:10 AM Margaret Olson 
mailto:s...@margaretolson.com>> wrote:
Out of curiosity, I looked at images of chicken for sale at butcher shops in 
the early 40s (pre-factory farmed chicken). Then I compared 1940 prices to 
current prices...and discovered that Codman Farm chicken is almost exactly the 
same price as chicken was in the 1940s.

Chicken was once Sunday dinner food. It was, like Codman's chicken, flavorful 
and delicious. I looked and looked for pasture raised chicken and used to buy 
it from Whole Foods when they occasionally had it. I am SOOO happy that Codman 
has real chicken almost all the time. I strongly urge you all to try it, and 
just stop buying factory chicken. If you want a bland protein on which to 
impart other flavors use tofu. It is expensive - a problem we solved by eating 
much less meat. Better for our health, better for the environment, and the 
chickens lead a natural chicken life. If you care at all about the treatment of 
animals that alone is a reason to avoid anything except pasture raised chicken.

"Organic" chicken is factory chicken that has been fed organic feed. One of the 
Michael Pollan books (apologies, I forget which one) described an "organic" 
chicken farm. It wasn't pretty - basically treating the building  like a clean 
room.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:44 AM Lincoln Historical Society 
mailto:lincolnmahistoricalsoci...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:
Given all Adam has described, yes indeed!

You have many choices - meat and chicken produced at large, factory farms, will 
of course be cheaper.
Any meat/chicken sold through chain stores will be cheaper.
You have that choice -it is locally available at Donelans, Market Basket, 
Costco.
It is your choice.

You get what you pay for.

Sara

> On Jul 13, 2021, at 8:58 AM, garrick niemiec 
> mailto:gniem...@illinoisalumni.org>> wrote:
>
> Adam
>
> What about the frozen chicken and beef...reasonable?
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