lingo-l Design Help

2003-07-16 Thread Anand Ravi
Hi List,

Am designing a CD that will be shipped with the print version of an
international medical journal.

Challenges:
- Extensive searching including word, phrase, proximity
- Each article is abt 75 pages (in MS Word)
- Tables of data needs to be represented
- Final data will not be avail. until 3 weeks of market release
- Greek / unicode characters to be supported

Am currently using D 8.5. Am thinking of upgrading to MX. Can D be used for
this? Will appreciate any thoughts from you all.

Thanks and Regards,
Anand Ravi



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Re: lingo-l Design Help

2003-07-16 Thread Bertil Flink
I think this sounds like a job for Acrobat, rather than Director.


Bertil Flink
Creative Media


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Subject: lingo-l Design Help


 Hi List,
 
 Am designing a CD that will be shipped with the print version of an
 international medical journal.
 
 Challenges:
 - Extensive searching including word, phrase, proximity
 - Each article is abt 75 pages (in MS Word)
 - Tables of data needs to be represented
 - Final data will not be avail. until 3 weeks of market release
 - Greek / unicode characters to be supported
 
 Am currently using D 8.5. Am thinking of upgrading to MX. Can D be used for
 this? Will appreciate any thoughts from you all.
 
 Thanks and Regards,
 Anand Ravi
 

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RE: lingo-l Design Help

2003-07-16 Thread Kerry Thompson
 Hi List,
 
 Am designing a CD that will be shipped with the print version 
 of an international medical journal.
 
 Challenges:
 - Extensive searching including word, phrase, proximity
 - Each article is abt 75 pages (in MS Word)
 - Tables of data needs to be represented
 - Final data will not be avail. until 3 weeks of market release
 - Greek / unicode characters to be supported
 
 Am currently using D 8.5. Am thinking of upgrading to MX. Can 
 D be used for this? Will appreciate any thoughts from you all.

I don't think Director would be the ideal tool. It doesn't support
Unicode, for one thing. It can do Greek, and most other widespread
languages, with some effort, but not in Unicode.

I've done similar things in C++ with third-party database packages, but
I'd hesitate to do this in Director. Check into Acrobat, too--it can do
a lot of the things you want.

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson

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Re: lingo-l Design Help

2003-07-16 Thread Diego Landro
This is the kind of job the i´ve been doing for the past two years and using
Director
The point is, it´s not quite as simple as it looks, especially regarding
documents in MS Word format. you should convert them to RTF first and even
then youll have to do some arrangement directily in Director. Regarding the
tables and images within the text. I use tables within RTF in Director and
thay work just fine, but youll have to do some work before since once you
import the table into d you can´t modify a thing within it, just the text
but no way you can modify the formatting of the table itself. As for images
what i do is link them to a different window (using MIAWs) with a hypertext
link within the text so you can look at the picture while reading and close
it whenever you like it. If you need more info just ask and i see what i can
do, but Director is very useful for that kind of work, far more useful than
Acrobat and you can even use Acrobat within Director with PDF Xtra if time
is really short.
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From: Kerry Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: lingo-l Design Help


  Hi List,
 
  Am designing a CD that will be shipped with the print version
  of an international medical journal.
 
  Challenges:
  - Extensive searching including word, phrase, proximity
  - Each article is abt 75 pages (in MS Word)
  - Tables of data needs to be represented
  - Final data will not be avail. until 3 weeks of market release
  - Greek / unicode characters to be supported
 
  Am currently using D 8.5. Am thinking of upgrading to MX. Can
  D be used for this? Will appreciate any thoughts from you all.

 I don't think Director would be the ideal tool. It doesn't support
 Unicode, for one thing. It can do Greek, and most other widespread
 languages, with some effort, but not in Unicode.

 I've done similar things in C++ with third-party database packages, but
 I'd hesitate to do this in Director. Check into Acrobat, too--it can do
 a lot of the things you want.

 Cordially,

 Kerry Thompson

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lingo-l Error I haven't seen before

2003-07-16 Thread Kurt Griffin
Hey all,

Sent out a gold master a month and a half ago, and now the client is calling
with an error that's happening after duplication. The master I sent works on
all of their PCs (14 or so). The duplicated disks do not. The error happens
on launching the projector, and is The application can not start as it
cannot create needed files. There may not be enough free disk space.

Anyone gotten that before? Again, PC only, and I believe just 2000 and XP
(though I'm not positive on that). Xtras are in an xtras folders on the CD,
so there shouldn't be an unpacking problem with them. And, as I said, it
only happens on the client's machines after duplication - but, the
duplicator says he gets the error on some machines with the master. Still,
the fact that it does not happen at all at the client's, then happens
consistently after reproduction, points to the duplication.

Any insights would be appreciated.

tia,
kurt

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RE: lingo-l Error I haven't seen before

2003-07-16 Thread Kerry Thompson
 Hey all,
 
 Sent out a gold master a month and a half ago, and now the 
 client is calling with an error that's happening after 
 duplication. The master I sent works on all of their PCs (14 
 or so). The duplicated disks do not. The error happens on 
 launching the projector, and is The application can not 
 start as it cannot create needed files. There may not be 
 enough free disk space.
 
 Anyone gotten that before? Again, PC only, and I believe just 
 2000 and XP (though I'm not positive on that). Xtras are in 
 an xtras folders on the CD, so there shouldn't be an 
 unpacking problem with them. And, as I said, it only 
 happens on the client's machines after duplication - but, the 
 duplicator says he gets the error on some machines with the 
 master. Still, the fact that it does not happen at all at the 
 client's, then happens consistently after reproduction, 
 points to the duplication.

Have you checked a copy of the replicated disc against the gold master?
I'd check all file sizes and dates to make sure they are the same.

I'm assuming you have an installer that writes the app to the hard
drive. I'd run an install from both the gold master and a replicated
copy to see if there are any differences in the install.

Sounds like a two-Caffrey task.

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson

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AW: lingo-l Error I haven't seen before

2003-07-16 Thread Michael von Aichberger
I had a similar problem once and the reason turned out to be quite simple:

The client had made a copy of my master using some method that didn't copy
hidden files. However, if I recall it right, some Acrobat installation stuff
consisted of hidden or system files. That was the problem in that particular
case.

Best regards

Michael

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Re: lingo-l Design Help

2003-07-16 Thread Tony Bray
On Thursday, Jul 17, 2003, at 04:01 Pacific/Auckland, Anand Ravi wrote 
(in part):
Hi List,

Am designing a CD that will be shipped with the print version of an
international medical journal.
snip
Am currently using D 8.5. Am thinking of upgrading to MX. Can D be 
used for
this? Will appreciate any thoughts from you all.

and Bertil Flink wrote:

I think this sounds like a job for Acrobat, rather than Director.
I would agree entirely.
As the text is in MS Word format it can be exported to PDF and then 
using Acrobat ( the full version not the Reader ) cross linking, Table 
of Contents, searching, etc can easily be added.

In this instance Director would be redundant ( sad really ;-( )!

Tony Bray
Multimedia Consultant  Tutor
I have an inferiority complex but, its not a very good one.

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Re: lingo-l Error I haven't seen before

2003-07-16 Thread Mark A. Boyd
At 12:53 2003-07-16, Kurt Griffin wrote:
The application can not start as it
cannot create needed files. There may not be enough free disk space.
Another possibility is that if you've created a Standard projector, it 
still needs to unpack the .dll files to the temp folder. This /may/ cause 
problems for users with restricted access. Can you create a Shockwave 
Player projector and include the .dll files in the Xtras folder for a test?

(I believe the details regarding which .dll files to include are in the 
technotes about creating a Fast Start projector)



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Re: lingo-l Error I haven't seen before

2003-07-16 Thread Howdy-Tzi
On Wednesday, Jul 16, 2003, at 19:49 America/Chicago, Mark A. Boyd 
wrote:

At 12:53 2003-07-16, Kurt Griffin wrote:
The application can not start as it
cannot create needed files. There may not be enough free disk space.
Another possibility is that if you've created a Standard projector, it 
still needs to unpack the .dll files to the temp folder. This /may/ 
cause problems for users with restricted access.
But why would the error happen on duplicated CDs, but not with the 
duplication master?

-- WthmO

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lingo-l Grammar parser in Lingo...?

2003-07-16 Thread Howdy-Tzi
Howdy all. Wondering if anyone's heard of a grammar parser behavior, 
object or script in Lingo.

What I mean is something that can analyze the syntax of a given 
plain-english (!) sentence and break it down into the appropriate parts 
of speech:

  He went to the grocery store

might be broken down as such:

  He: Subject
  went: Verb
  to the grocery store: Prepositional phrase
to: Preposition
the: Definite article
grocery: Adjective
store: Object of preposition
...and other such joys. Simple subject/verb/object or 
subject/verb/adjective constructions shouldn't be a big deal (Warren 
is insane) but for compound and complex sentences I'm not quite sure 
how to really begin the approach. Though in some ways the 
compound/complex parsing wouldn't really be all that different from the 
basic parsing; it would, however, have to know when it was looking at 
such a construction before it could break it into its smaller 
components.

Obviously there'd have to be a dictionary as well that could recognize 
individual words and slot them into their likely categories based on 
context. That's not a big problem either (just tedious to produce).

The idea is that this would be some kind of code that could be used to 
generate a pre-translation table of words, which would then be 
converted into another language. (That's not all that difficult to 
conceive either; it's simply an output generator based on the input... 
it's the input side of things that I'm most interested in...)

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