Re: editShortCutEnabled and edit menu

2003-10-15 Thread Buzz Kettles
At 11:24 AM -0500 10/15/03, you wrote:
Hi Jean-Louis,

Yes, in my experience, installMenu short-circuits the text edit 
shortcuts.  I, too, have written a behavior that correctly 
accomplishes these things, accounting for the selStart and the 
selEnd.  If yours works, then you're all set, but if you'd like 
mine, I'd be happy to pass it
along.

By the way, I found that keyDown would not even receive the event if 
the command were down, so I had to check on exitFrame.  Were you 
able to trap keydown events in a behavior with installed menus?
In the project I'm working on now, I've got traps for keyDown when 
I've got userMenus installed.

I've set the keyDownScript to create a handler full of single key 
global shortcuts and have several field behaviors which trap for 
RETURN or TAB to accept values &/or jump to the next field, etc.

& YES, apparently one can't seem to trap for cmd-combinations (& 
probably ctrl-combos under Windows) in this situation.

hth
-Buzz

Regards,

Daniel

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Giving back

2003-10-15 Thread Troy Rollins
(Since some of you guys aren't on Direct-L)

This community has been exceedingly generous over the years. The folks 
on this list alone remind me on a daily basis why I choose Director as 
my authoring tool of choice. While I can't offer as much in the way of 
Lingo expertise as some of the others, being only "experienced" and not 
"geek/genius", I have always looked for an opportunity to return the 
favor, in some way.

I guess today is that day. I've taken a little time to write a utility 
that should be of assistance to any Director developer who creates CDs 
(and maybe other projects.) I know that other utilities of the same 
nature as this one have cropped up over the years, but I don't know of 
any freely available current version - so I made one.

Xtra Xporter examines your movie for required xtras (those listed in 
your Movie/xtras panel), and makes copies of them into your movie's 
distribution folder - supporting "fast start" projector distribution. 
I've always found this part of development to be a PITA, so I figured 
others might as well. Here are some notes on usage-

- Requires DMX, running on OSX or Windows (OSX will also compile your 
OS9 xtras for distribution)
- Requires BuddyAPI (Uses 4 or 5 Buddy functions)
- Runs as an MIAW from your xtras menu
- Allows inclusion of Xtras not in your movie's list
- Allows removal of Xtras in your movie's list for the purposes of Xport
- Recursively searches within your Xtras folder (or in the case of 
Classic, your Classic Xtras folder)
- Creates an Xtras folder alongside your movie file and copies your 
xtras to it
- Saves you time, and reduces the distribution PITA
- Is something many of you could obviously write for yourself, but this 
saves you the time and effort
- Is distributed as a DXR, but a DIR will be available for anyone 
seriously willing to improve and return (without copyright statements 
added)
- It ain't FileXtra4 (a truly generous and inspiring "Give back"), but 
it is pretty cool
- Has the Zav stamp of approval and is compatible with his ToolOpener 
thingie, in fact, Zav will have a version made available with his tools 
which has been "sexed up" with his cool Asset Generator, providing much 
more stylish buttons.

Xtra Xporter is available for a limited time for just $49.95... 
(kidding)... Xtra Xporter is free (as in beer.) I'll probably post this 
thing for download somewhere, but for now, email me offlist if you 
would like a copy. I'll put a bow on it, and send it right over (all 
32k.)

Thanks again for a great list, folks!

--
Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
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Re: editShortCutEnabled and edit menu

2003-10-15 Thread John Aquilina (JMW)
Try

 menu: edit
 Cut/X| nothing
 Copy/C| nothing
 Paste/V| nothing

hth

johnAq



on 16/10/03 2:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Nobody answered...
> My problem was (and still is) this one:
> I have a text member with editShortCutEnabled set to true
> So I can use the keyboard for copy,cut and paste
> But when I install a menu with shortcuts for those functions, I can't
> use anymore my keyboard, because the menu
> sets  editShortCutEnabled to false.
> I tried this:
> 
> menu: edit
> Cut/X|pass
> Copy/C|pass
> Paste/V|pass
> 
> An this:
> 
> menu: edit
> Cut/X| editShortCutEnabled =true
> Copy/C| editShortCutEnabled =true
> Paste/V| editShortCutEnabled =true
> 
> But it does not work.
> Do you think I'm obliged to write a behaviour(I did it) with keydown
> etc... (tedious and overall slow), or is there a workaround ?
> thank you very much
> jean-louis valero

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RE: Flash Xtra Updates (was: RE: Those OS's again and a que stion)

2003-10-15 Thread Tab Julius
I think much of this derives from the original understanding of Xtras, and 
the migration of a lot of Director functionality from within the runtime 
engine itself into Xtras (said migration occurred mainly between D5 and 
D6.x, complete with the engine overhaul in D7).

The touted benefit was that the Xtras could be updated without revving the 
whole product, implying support for newer things without the need for a new 
product release (and/or bug fixes without having to re-QA the whole product).

That's probably where the idea took hold that something like, say, the 
Flash asset Xtra, could be upgraded to the new release of Flash, without 
having to rev the whole product.  I think people probably got the idea that 
you could put out a new QuickTime Xtra, or Flash Xtra or whatever without 
forcing people to wait for a new release of Director.  I bet if I search my 
archives of lingo-l and mmxdk-l I can probably find messages to this effect.

I'm not necessarily arguing against how things are done right now, I'm just 
trying to clarify why people have the impression about this subject that 
they do.

- Tab

At 05:30 PM 10/15/03, Colin Holgate wrote:
Gee, catch questions are fun...


Only if you get the catch. As you've read by now, the first catch was that 
the first Flash Xtra wasn't tied to any release. The second catch was more 
subtle, Flash 4 support in 7.02 fully complies with the non-paying 
non-major update that introduced new Flash support, but the catch is that 
you can make the argument that 7.02 was really the 7.0 that would have 
come out if it had stayed in beta another five months. So really the Flash 
4 support sort of comes under the 7.0 major release, even though 7.0 only 
did Flash 3.
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RE: Flash Xtra Updates (was: RE: Those OS's again and a que stion)

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Holgate
Gee, catch questions are fun...


Only if you get the catch. As you've read by now, the first catch was 
that the first Flash Xtra wasn't tied to any release. The second 
catch was more subtle, Flash 4 support in 7.02 fully complies with 
the non-paying non-major update that introduced new Flash support, 
but the catch is that you can make the argument that 7.02 was really 
the 7.0 that would have come out if it had stayed in beta another 
five months. So really the Flash 4 support sort of comes under the 
7.0 major release, even though 7.0 only did Flash 3.

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RE: Flash Xtra Updates

2003-10-15 Thread Peter Witham
That's what I meant by separate xtra update :)


The two were: 6.02-ish. In other words, when the Flash Xtra first 
existed as a separate product, and as you said, 7.02, which had Flash 
4 support.




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RE: Autorun/icon inconsistency

2003-10-15 Thread Todd Culley
Bruce, as far as I know the correct way is with the backslash "\".  This is
typically used for local system references and the "/" forward slash used in
UNC - Uniform Naming Convention for server directories and the web.

I don't think it's either Director or MicroAngelo.  If you can see the icon
in your packaged director exe in the windows explorer then MicroAngelo did
its job correctly.

I would say that the system isn't refreshing its system icon cache for one
reason or another.  Maybe the system has a lot of processes running.

Try running MicroAngelo's 'On Display' program on the affected system.
Advanced>Rebuild System Cache and see if it will even display the icon.

I would suggest scrolling through microsoft's MSDN developer site
msdn.microsoft.com for more detailed info on the icon topic, as well as
asking the folks at MicroAngelo if they can point you in some directions.

todd

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Subject: RE:  Autorun/icon inconsistency


>>Anyone have any insight as to why the My Computer window would *only
>>sometimes* show the custom icon for the CD drive?

I'm also having this problem...

Autorun contains..
"icon=projector.exe"

 - projector is in root of CD
 - problem occurs on Windows XP Home and Professional
 - projector icon was created with Microangelo 5.5

Is it a Microangelo or a Director problem???

Any relevant ideas much appreciated,
Bruce


ps. I'm sure we'd all love to get a straight answer on this issue
without it being hijacked by silly OS-advocacy posts.


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RE: Flash Xtra Updates (was: RE: Those OS's again and a que stion)

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Higgins
> Ok, quick quiz, name two occasions when a Flash Xtra change occurred 
> away from a major Director release. You could argue that both are 
> catch questions.

A. Let's define "major Director release": a release in which new bits are released 
that you are required to pay for. Director 8.5 was a major release, whether you think 
"major" means 8.0 --> 9.0 or not, the number doesn't mean a thing, what's in the box 
and whether you have to pay define "major release" from my perspective (thus the 
argument that you've had to pay to get new Flash player Xtras).

B. Are your sneaky questions ones where the Flash player _format_ was updated (i.e. 
from Flash player 5 to Flash player 6 as occurred in DirMX) or did they involve bug 
fixes?

C. In these cases, where the next Xtras freely available to those with the most 
recently released major version?


Gee, catch questions are fun...


Cheers,
Tom Higgins
Product Specialist - Director Team
Macromedia

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RE: Flash Xtra Updates (was: RE: Those OS's again and a question)

2003-10-15 Thread Peter Witham

Quite right, I got myself in a twist on the Flash Xtra update. Even though
the updated Flash Xtra is promoted as a big feature of any Director update.

Although personally I think any Director update is a major deal as in my
opinion it is still the best multimedia tool out there for serious
development.

I won't hold ya to ransom on the _company_policy_ debate as companies always
do things that don't make much sense to the people working there (speaking
from first hand experience). And I know from my many discussions and first
hand experience of development that companies always listen to the financial
department first and their developers advice second, not that I'm implying
any one company in that statement.

And as a closer, please continue to make Director a big deal internally in
Macromedia as I hate it when my clients all say they want Flash because it's
'the thing' rather than the more powerful Director and shockwave and then
they complain because they don't have access to all the really cool things
Director does so easily.

Regards to all,
Peter

---
Pardon me but what old days are you referring to? My recollection is that
we've _never_ released an updated Flash Asset Xtra outside of a major
product release so there's no "new tactic" here, thus I'm puzzled at your
statements above. Last year we did try to get a new Flash Asset Xtra out for
D8.5 users that supported Flash 6 player files (exported from Flash MX), but
that effort didn't work out and so we did not do that release (it came out
with Director MX). So we've had one attempt at doing this but we've never
actually done it.

Updating the Flash Asset Xtra is not an insignificant amount of work. There
is a lot of development time and QA effort that go into ensuring that Flash
playback is up to snuff before a new Xtra can go out and as such Macromedia
has made the decision to provide the updated versions of the Xtra in major
releases of Director. We could probably debate the benefits and problems
with our current update model until the cows come home, but I'm not really
into having that conversation today so hopefully folks don't take my having
pointed out _company_policy_ as any sort of implied personal support for
that distribution model.

Again, just wondering what old times you're referring to as for at least the
past 5 years over 5 releases of Director, I don't recall us ever having
provided an updated Flash Asset Xtra outside of a major product release
(thus you had to upgrade Director to get it).

Cheers,
Tom Higgins
Product Specialist - Director Team
Macromedia

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RE: Flash Xtra Updates (was: RE: Those OS's again and a que stion)

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Holgate
 > Ok, quick quiz, name two occasions when a Flash Xtra change occurred
 away from a major Director release. You could argue that both are
 catch questions.
8.5, if you consider a dot-release to not be a major release. I do
consider 8.5 to be a major release, though.
The other was either 6.5 or 7.02.

I think.


On the right lines. 8.5 really wanted to be called 9.0, but I would 
argue that 6.5 and 8.5 are major enough not to be the ones I meant. 
The two were: 6.02-ish. In other words, when the Flash Xtra first 
existed as a separate product, and as you said, 7.02, which had Flash 
4 support.

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RE: Flash Xtra Updates (was: RE: Those OS's again and a que stion)

2003-10-15 Thread Kerry Thompson
> Ok, quick quiz, name two occasions when a Flash Xtra change occurred 
> away from a major Director release. You could argue that both are 
> catch questions.

8.5, if you consider a dot-release to not be a major release. I do
consider 8.5 to be a major release, though.

The other was either 6.5 or 7.02.

I think.

Xordially,

Kerry Thompson

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Re: Flash Xtra Updates (was: RE: Those OS's again and a que stion)

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Holgate
Again, just wondering what old times you're referring to as for at least the
past 5 years over 5 releases of Director, I don't recall us ever having
provided an updated Flash Asset Xtra outside of a major product release
(thus you had to upgrade Director to get it).


Ok, quick quiz, name two occasions when a Flash Xtra change occurred 
away from a major Director release. You could argue that both are 
catch questions.

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Re: OS wars

2003-10-15 Thread grimmwerks
On 10/15/03 10:34 AM, "Charlie Fiskeaux II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spewed forth:

> WinXP just works, OSX doesn't


That's weird. I've got both, and although I like XP MUCH more than it's
predecessors, my preference is totally the mac side of things.

Course it's all just tools, what makes sense for you, and how adept you are
at using them. 

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RE: Those OS's again and a question

2003-10-15 Thread Peter Witham
I stand corrected on the paintbrush and palette knife. But the principle
statement still stands, it's about what you do with em not what you do it
with. I could buy the best most expensive brush in the world and I'd still
be a hopeless painter :)

Peter Witham
Internet and Multimedia Solutions
http://www.evolutiondata.com
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:  Those OS's again and a question

At 10:42 AM -0500 10/15/03, Peter Witham wrote:
>1. It ain't the OS you use it's the ideas in your head and what you do with
>em. Do we ever hear artists defending to death their particular paintbrush
>or palette knife?

Actually, you do.

As a painter and illustrator I know that finding 
tools that work right for your own technique and 
are not low-quality is one of the most important 
elements to doing good work. The standard rule of 
thumb for oil painters is to buy the most 
expensive oil paints you can afford, then spend 
money on good brushes and other materials. A good 
palette knife is important, but very dependent on 
personal preference (and generally very cheap).

The idea that you can do good work with any tools 
is ridiculous, though obviously a professional 
artist will create a better picture with a 99¢ 
watercolor set than an amateur will.

The question is, to what degree are you fighting 
the qualities and abilities of your tools and to 
what degree are they aiding you in your work. NO 
good graphic designer would willingly choose to 
lay out a brochure using MS Word rather than 
Quark or InDesign, and similarly most programmers 
who set up web servers and web services greatly 
prefer Unix to Windows.

Of course multimedia programmers need to target 
the platforms that their users are on, but 
currently that is a very large argument for using 
Flash rather than Director -- as one of the best 
aspects of Flash is that you can author on any 
platform and their are very few cross platform 
issues for the final SWF file.

That said, I love the capabilities of Director 
and hope it becomes MUCH easier to make 
cross-platform movies and projects so I don't 
have to move all my development over to Flash.

-- Randal
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Re: Autorun/icon inconsistency

2003-10-15 Thread Cole Tierney
Anyone have any insight as to why the My Computer window would *only
sometimes* show the custom icon for the CD drive?
I'm also having this problem...
Not sure this will help, but I usually use an external icon and 
haven't bumped into this problem.

icon=some.ico

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Re: Those OS's again and a question

2003-10-15 Thread Randal
At 10:42 AM -0500 10/15/03, Peter Witham wrote:
1. It ain't the OS you use it's the ideas in your head and what you do with
em. Do we ever hear artists defending to death their particular paintbrush
or palette knife?
Actually, you do.

As a painter and illustrator I know that finding 
tools that work right for your own technique and 
are not low-quality is one of the most important 
elements to doing good work. The standard rule of 
thumb for oil painters is to buy the most 
expensive oil paints you can afford, then spend 
money on good brushes and other materials. A good 
palette knife is important, but very dependent on 
personal preference (and generally very cheap).

The idea that you can do good work with any tools 
is ridiculous, though obviously a professional 
artist will create a better picture with a 99¢ 
watercolor set than an amateur will.

The question is, to what degree are you fighting 
the qualities and abilities of your tools and to 
what degree are they aiding you in your work. NO 
good graphic designer would willingly choose to 
lay out a brochure using MS Word rather than 
Quark or InDesign, and similarly most programmers 
who set up web servers and web services greatly 
prefer Unix to Windows.

Of course multimedia programmers need to target 
the platforms that their users are on, but 
currently that is a very large argument for using 
Flash rather than Director -- as one of the best 
aspects of Flash is that you can author on any 
platform and their are very few cross platform 
issues for the final SWF file.

That said, I love the capabilities of Director 
and hope it becomes MUCH easier to make 
cross-platform movies and projects so I don't 
have to move all my development over to Flash.

-- Randal
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Flash Xtra Updates (was: RE: Those OS's again and a que stion)

2003-10-15 Thread Thomas Higgins
Peter,

> Actually a question for you all, what's your opinion on what 
> appears to be the new tactic of having to upgrade Director
> everytime a new version of Flash comes out rather than just
> updating the Xtra like in the old days?

Pardon me but what old days are you referring to? My recollection is that
we've _never_ released an updated Flash Asset Xtra outside of a major
product release so there's no "new tactic" here, thus I'm puzzled at your
statements above. Last year we did try to get a new Flash Asset Xtra out for
D8.5 users that supported Flash 6 player files (exported from Flash MX), but
that effort didn't work out and so we did not do that release (it came out
with Director MX). So we've had one attempt at doing this but we've never
actually done it.

Updating the Flash Asset Xtra is not an insignificant amount of work. There
is a lot of development time and QA effort that go into ensuring that Flash
playback is up to snuff before a new Xtra can go out and as such Macromedia
has made the decision to provide the updated versions of the Xtra in major
releases of Director. We could probably debate the benefits and problems
with our current update model until the cows come home, but I'm not really
into having that conversation today so hopefully folks don't take my having
pointed out _company_policy_ as any sort of implied personal support for
that distribution model.

Again, just wondering what old times you're referring to as for at least the
past 5 years over 5 releases of Director, I don't recall us ever having
provided an updated Flash Asset Xtra outside of a major product release
(thus you had to upgrade Director to get it).

Cheers,
Tom Higgins
Product Specialist - Director Team
Macromedia

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RE: Those OS's again and a question

2003-10-15 Thread Peter Witham
I'm glad that someone shares the exact same view point as me!

I got 8.5 and was delighted when Macromedia sent me the MX upgrade for free,
although would of paid for it in a second.

However like you say, it holds back either my upgrades or creates problems
for me with clients as they send me flash content using the latest flash and
I have to explain why I cannot use it and request they re-compile it as an
earlier version so I can work with it.

I know there is a very valid argument from Macromedia and users for the
continued development of both Director and Flash as separate applications
i.e. one is for web and the other for CD. But personally I still think the
major reason is two revenue streams and also fail too see why the
development and release of both application updates cannot be timed a little
closer to aid developers of both products, unless it is designed that way to
improve and balance quarterly earnings? (nah that would silly :P)

Regards to all,
Peter Witham
Internet and Multimedia Solutions
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On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 11:42 AM, Peter Witham wrote:

> Actually a question for you all, what's your opinion on what appears 
> to be
> the new tactic of having to upgrade Director everytime a new version of
> Flash comes out rather than just updating the Xtra like in the old 
> days?

It sux. Not because I don't want the new version of Director - I always 
do, and always will. But because it causes a compatibility gap for too 
long. I think Flash should come with a replacement Director Xtra when 
it is released to maintain compatibility. Director upgrades are worth 
the money to me, and it doesn't take the Flash xtra to make it so. In 
fact, what it does is prevent me from upgrading multiple seats of Flash 
until the new version of Director is released.
--
Troy
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Re: editShortCutEnabled and edit menu

2003-10-15 Thread Daniel Nelson
Hi Jean-Louis,

Yes, in my experience, installMenu short-circuits the text edit shortcuts.  I, too, 
have written a behavior that correctly accomplishes these things, accounting for the 
selStart and the selEnd.  If yours works, then you're all set, but if you'd like mine, 
I'd be happy to pass it
along.

By the way, I found that keyDown would not even receive the event if the command were 
down, so I had to check on exitFrame.  Were you able to trap keydown events in a 
behavior with installed menus?

Regards,

Daniel


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Re: Those OS's again and a question

2003-10-15 Thread Troy Rollins
On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 11:42 AM, Peter Witham wrote:

Actually a question for you all, what's your opinion on what appears 
to be
the new tactic of having to upgrade Director everytime a new version of
Flash comes out rather than just updating the Xtra like in the old 
days?
It sux. Not because I don't want the new version of Director - I always 
do, and always will. But because it causes a compatibility gap for too 
long. I think Flash should come with a replacement Director Xtra when 
it is released to maintain compatibility. Director upgrades are worth 
the money to me, and it doesn't take the Flash xtra to make it so. In 
fact, what it does is prevent me from upgrading multiple seats of Flash 
until the new version of Director is released.
--
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Those OS's again and a question

2003-10-15 Thread Peter Witham
Hi all,

   I've been following this and many other Director and dare I say Flash :P
lists for years now, although I hardly ever post for one reason or another.
And sure enough the OS debate never fails to raise it's head now and again.
So I thought I'd give my thoughts once and for all (not that it really
matters or amounts to anything).

1. It ain't the OS you use it's the ideas in your head and what you do with
em. Do we ever hear artists defending to death their particular paintbrush
or palette knife?

2. People who just say this or that OS is the best and the other sucks
without reasoning why are wasting bandwidth. I've seen certain people on
these lists go on a war cry every time the OS issue appears, and whilst I
have the utmost respect for their knowledge of certain things like Lingo,
their attitude of bash that system does nothing but detract peoples
attention away from the persons talents. Honestly, you'd think that some
people around here have major stakes in Apple or Microsoft :)

3. All OS's have highs and lows, personally I use Windows and Linux on my
server. I've also used BeOS 4 and 5 pro and personally still think BeOS has
some of the best ideas and only failed due to the terrible marketing within
the company. That said, if someone offered me a Mac I'd take that too. If
you're a developer you should be in a position to test on all the platforms
you expect it to work on.

4. As I mentioned, I'm a Windows user but I'd buy a Mac If the price was
more reasonable by comparison to the other choices out there and I didn't
have to re-buy all the apps I use consistently. Personally I think the Mac
is physically the best looking gear out there other than some of the SGI
designs, but it doesn't make the apps run any better or worse.

5. What we all gonna do and say when maybe just maybe Director appears for
Linux? Will there be a joining of the Mac and Win clans to defeat the
penguin? Lol

Well guess that's it, I'll disappear into the blue yonda again until I get
around to posting again or get thrown off the list for such drastic
statements.

Actually a question for you all, what's your opinion on what appears to be
the new tactic of having to upgrade Director everytime a new version of
Flash comes out rather than just updating the Xtra like in the old days?

Regards to all,

Peter Witham
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Re: OS wars

2003-10-15 Thread Charlie Fiskeaux II
Well, I'm honestly happy that you can have a highly productive mac
environment, because all of the many macs I've used and been around aren't
anywhere near "crash-free", even the OSX ones.  Thus the basis of my
arguments.

Charlie Fiskeaux II
Media Designer
Cre8tive Group
cre8tivegroup.com
859/858-9054x29
cell: 859/608-9194

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From: "Troy Rollins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: Re:  OS wars


>
> On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 10:34 AM, Charlie Fiskeaux II wrote:
>
> > There are plenty of cogent points, the most important being (in the
> > words of
> > Mac's OSX campaign), WinXP just works, OSX doesn't, regardless of what
> > Apple
> > says.
>
> Boy, you do make an excellent  and well qualified point there. "OSX
> doesn't."
>
> Personally, I think you should keep believing that. I rue the day I
> pitched every PC my company owned in to the dumpster and replaced them
> with these darn elegant, crash-free Macs. I keep getting all these
> irritating emails from my staff thanking me. Now, they are getting all
> superior and having contests in continuous up-time and "most
> applications running concurrently," broken up by fits of laughter about
> how easy stuff is to do. I hate that.
>
> And the G5 speed myth? Don't believe it. Speed isn't everything after
> all.
>
> Stay on WinXP. You sound the sort that is poorly suited to such
> experiences. In fact, I join you in slamming the Mac arbitrarily and
> without salient points. Trust us folks, enhanced productivity isn't the
> last word in computing. Your PCs will serve you better in the long run,
> and poor highly productive environments like those at my shop are
> nothing to be envied.
>
> Windoze Rulz!! (And that is the last point I'll make in these insipid
> troll-baits.)
> --
> Troy
> RPSystems, Ltd.
> http://www.rpsystems.net
>
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Re: OS wars

2003-10-15 Thread Troy Rollins
On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 10:34 AM, Charlie Fiskeaux II wrote:

There are plenty of cogent points, the most important being (in the 
words of
Mac's OSX campaign), WinXP just works, OSX doesn't, regardless of what 
Apple
says.
Boy, you do make an excellent  and well qualified point there. "OSX 
doesn't."

Personally, I think you should keep believing that. I rue the day I 
pitched every PC my company owned in to the dumpster and replaced them 
with these darn elegant, crash-free Macs. I keep getting all these 
irritating emails from my staff thanking me. Now, they are getting all 
superior and having contests in continuous up-time and "most 
applications running concurrently," broken up by fits of laughter about 
how easy stuff is to do. I hate that.

And the G5 speed myth? Don't believe it. Speed isn't everything after 
all.

Stay on WinXP. You sound the sort that is poorly suited to such 
experiences. In fact, I join you in slamming the Mac arbitrarily and 
without salient points. Trust us folks, enhanced productivity isn't the 
last word in computing. Your PCs will serve you better in the long run, 
and poor highly productive environments like those at my shop are 
nothing to be envied.

Windoze Rulz!! (And that is the last point I'll make in these insipid 
troll-baits.)
--
Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
http://www.rpsystems.net

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Re: Director capability to determine pc perfomance

2003-10-15 Thread Agustín María Rodríguez
Peter Bochan wrote:
My speculation on this was:
1. to determine the amount of RAM
2. to determine the cpu speed (whether it'll be able to manage the cast
members
3. then to upload the needed cast into RAM
	I´ve used Buddy Api for similar tasks so I could decrease the quality 
of the Flash movies for the older machines. You can also use user´s 
specs for determining if you´re going to reproduce full screen videos or 
even the size of a 3D scene.

My 2 cents,
--
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OS wars

2003-10-15 Thread Charlie Fiskeaux II
There are plenty of cogent points, the most important being (in the words of
Mac's OSX campaign), WinXP just works, OSX doesn't, regardless of what Apple
says.

I'm just defending worthwhile software that a lot of "creative people" seem
inclined to attack.

Charlie Fiskeaux II
Media Designer
Cre8tive Group
cre8tivegroup.com
859/858-9054x29
cell: 859/608-9194

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Subject: Re:  Autorun/icon inconsistency


> UNIX. PCs and servers. Why are you being so defensive? Do you own MSFT
> stock?
>
> Oh! sig block! Sorry, I thought you were going to raise a cogent point
> before you finished your note, one subject, topic or idea that had
> never been discussed before, ever, in this entire tired debate.
>
> Guess not.
>
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editShortCutEnabled and edit menu

2003-10-15 Thread jean-louis valero
Nobody answered...
My problem was (and still is) this one:
I have a text member with editShortCutEnabled set to true
So I can use the keyboard for copy,cut and paste
But when I install a menu with shortcuts for those functions, I can't 
use anymore my keyboard, because the menu
sets  editShortCutEnabled to false.
I tried this:

menu: edit
Cut/X|pass
Copy/C|pass
Paste/V|pass
An this:

menu: edit
Cut/X| editShortCutEnabled =true
Copy/C| editShortCutEnabled =true
Paste/V| editShortCutEnabled =true
But it does not work.
Do you think I'm obliged to write a behaviour(I did it) with keydown 
etc... (tedious and overall slow), or is there a workaround ?
thank you very much
jean-louis valero

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RE: Autorun/icon inconsistency

2003-10-15 Thread Bruce Collier

>>Anyone have any insight as to why the My Computer window would *only
>>sometimes* show the custom icon for the CD drive?

I'm also having this problem...

Autorun contains..
"icon=projector.exe"

 - projector is in root of CD
 - problem occurs on Windows XP Home and Professional
 - projector icon was created with Microangelo 5.5

Is it a Microangelo or a Director problem???

Any relevant ideas much appreciated,
Bruce


ps. I'm sure we'd all love to get a straight answer on this issue
without it being hijacked by silly OS-advocacy posts.


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RE: Autorun/icon inconsistency

2003-10-15 Thread Mendelsohn, Michael
Hi all...

Moving back from the tangential ideological comments, including the
inaccurately described demographic makeup of the United States Supreme
Court...

My icon is still delinquent!  :-)
===
Todd had a good suggestion: is it "/" or "\", in other words, 
Icon=media\uth.ico
Or
Icon=media/uth.ico

I've tried both with inconsistent results each way.  Officially, which
is it?

> I typically set my icon equal to my projector's .exe file.
Icon=myProjector.exe
What a great suggestion!  I didn't know you could do that.
===
Fraser, yes, my autorun is turned on.
===
Chris, I appreciate your sending the link, but I can't count on my users
being able to do this...that would sooo not happen.  
===

regards,
- Michael M.






I don't seem to notice these problems on my projects.  However, I am
assuming you made a typo when you entered your example:
Icon=media/uth.ico

It should read:
Icon=media\uth.ico  -- notice the use of the backslash and not the
forward slash.

todd

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Michael
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:  Autorun/icon inconsistency

Hi list...

==
I sifted through the Lingo-L & Direct-L archives, and I couldn't find
any previous posts answering my question, so I'm gracing Lingo-L with
yet another autorun post...  ==

On some CDs I've created, when you double click My Computer, autorun.inf
makes my custom icon replace the generic icon for that drive (as it
should), but on other CDs, autorun.inf fails to do this, and the icon
for the CD drive is something ugly and generic, even though there's no
difference between the two autorun.inf files.

In my projects, I store my icons in a "media" folder on the root of the
CD.  

The autorun.inf file always has this line:
Icon=media/uth.ico

(And, for what it's worth, I create the icons in Microangelo v5.55.)

Anyone have any insight as to why the My Computer window would *only
sometimes* show the custom icon for the CD drive?

Thanks,
Michael M.

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Re: Manipulating the play back of video in director

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Holgate
I have a question regarding manipulating video with lingo. I have a 
stream being captured then brought in to director which is fine, but 
what I would like to happen is have 2 instances of the video on the 
stage, one playing at full speed and the other playing at the same 
rate but skipping every other frame out so its 'juddery'. Is there 
something anyone might be able to suggest that might help?
As you are reading the same file, it may even be possible to do what 
you want. Hold on, I'll try it...

Yes, it works fine. This was my frame script:

on exitFrame me
  set the movietime of sprite 2 to the movietime of sprite 1
  go the frame
end
and this was a script on sprite 2:

on beginsprite
  set the movierate of sprite 2 to 0
end
You could have two members (I just had one) and set the second one to 
be paused, which would mean not needing the beginsprite script to 
stop it. When I run the movie the second copy of the video runs at 
the frame rate I set, so if I set it to 5 fps, it jerks along at 5 
changes per second, with the other sprite playing smoothly (QuickTime 
is not limited by Director's frame rate, it updates the movie as 
often as it needs to).

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Manipulating the play back of video in director

2003-10-15 Thread lucy clifford
Hello All,

I have a question regarding manipulating video with lingo. I have a stream 
being captured then brought in to director which is fine, but what I would 
like to happen is have 2 instances of the video on the stage, one playing at 
full speed and the other playing at the same rate but skipping every other 
frame out so its 'juddery'. Is there something anyone might be able to 
suggest that might help?

Thanks very much

-Lucy

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Director capability to determine pc perfomance

2003-10-15 Thread Peter Bochan
Hello Lingo Developers!
In general, PC performance depends upon the initial system configuration
(like cpu speed, amount of ram, video accelerator capabilities), but
another constituent is software configuration (let's say Word 97 vs Word
XP, the latter takes up to one minute to start on my pc). All this
together defines the general pc performance. Now, I wonder, can Director
determine the capabilities of speed of a computer so that it will use,
let's say one UI (pc-lite), than the other. This is like in Win XP you
go to Performance Options and select "adjust for best appearance" or
"for best performance". I mean not the determination of cpu speed (it
may be PIII at 1000, but if you launch some of AutoDesk products it will
slow down your pc considerably) but the ability to perform a task so
that the pc won't complain or slow down.

My speculation on this was:
1. to determine the amount of RAM
2. to determine the cpu speed (whether it'll be able to manage the cast
members
3. then to upload the needed cast into RAM
4. but then what?

Thank you all in advance
pb

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RE: Autorun/icon inconsistency

2003-10-15 Thread Fraser Campbell
just to throw a question out there, is this happening on machines with
autorun turned on? I don't know on PCs which have autorun switched off
whether or not the autorun.inf file gets read at all.

Fraser "Shot in the dark" Campbell

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Re: Autorun/icon inconsistency

2003-10-15 Thread Chris Chambers
Hi Michael,
I don't know if this will help you at all, but it may be worth a look:
http://tinyurl.com/qzoy
Last time my icons started mis-behaving, this was the cause.
Hope this helps.
Chris.


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From: "Mendelsohn, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:45 PM
Subject:  Autorun/icon inconsistency


> Hi list...
>
> ==
> I sifted through the Lingo-L & Direct-L archives, and I couldn't find
> any previous posts answering my question, so I'm gracing Lingo-L with
> yet another autorun post... 
> ==
>
> On some CDs I've created, when you double click My Computer, autorun.inf
> makes my custom icon replace the generic icon for that drive (as it
> should), but on other CDs, autorun.inf fails to do this, and the icon
> for the CD drive is something ugly and generic, even though there's no
> difference between the two autorun.inf files.
>
> In my projects, I store my icons in a "media" folder on the root of the
> CD.
>
> The autorun.inf file always has this line:
> Icon=media/uth.ico
>
> (And, for what it's worth, I create the icons in Microangelo v5.55.)
>
> Anyone have any insight as to why the My Computer window would *only
> sometimes* show the custom icon for the CD drive?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael M.
>
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RE: Autorun/icon inconsistency

2003-10-15 Thread Andrew Dempsey
Thank you for bringing this thread out of the mud (entertaining
as it is... really, I get a good laugh out of it) and back to
the issue.

I have also found on occasion for reasons unknown to me, that
sometimes the icon comes up perfectly in 9 computers, but on the
10th one (same OS, likely fiddled with by infinite number of users)
it doesn't show.  This happens (on occasion) even when I have set
the icon equal to the exe.  I have also wondered about it from 
time to time.  

That's all in windows (sorry, no experience in developing for Mac,
although I'd rather use one as my developing platform in many cases),
since less than 1% of our market uses Mac (except for universities, 
which rarely outsource any kind of development, at least in my part
of the world).

And for what it's worth, I have yet to see this problem in Windows XP.
It seems from what I can remember to be a Windows 98 and under problem.
Can't recall it happening with 2000 either.

Andrew

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Culley
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:19 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE:  Autorun/icon inconsistency
> 
> 
> I don't seem to notice these problems on my projects.  
> However, I am assuming you made a typo when you entered your 
> example: Icon=media/uth.ico
> 
> It should read:
> Icon=media\uth.ico  -- notice the use of the backslash and 
> not the forward slash.
> 
> I typically set my icon equal to my projector's .exe file. 
> Icon=myProjector.exe
> 
> todd
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Mendelsohn, Michael
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 1:46 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Autorun/icon inconsistency
> 
> Hi list...
> 
> ==
> I sifted through the Lingo-L & Direct-L archives, and I 
> couldn't find any previous posts answering my question, so 
> I'm gracing Lingo-L with yet another autorun post...  
> ==
> 
> On some CDs I've created, when you double click My Computer, 
> autorun.inf makes my custom icon replace the generic icon for 
> that drive (as it should), but on other CDs, autorun.inf 
> fails to do this, and the icon for the CD drive is something 
> ugly and generic, even though there's no difference between 
> the two autorun.inf files.
> 
> In my projects, I store my icons in a "media" folder on the 
> root of the CD.  
> 
> The autorun.inf file always has this line:
> Icon=media/uth.ico
> 
> (And, for what it's worth, I create the icons in Microangelo v5.55.)
> 
> Anyone have any insight as to why the My Computer window would *only
> sometimes* show the custom icon for the CD drive?
> 
> Thanks,
> Michael M.
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