RE: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted)
Hi, I had same kind of propblems also. The error message was the same. It did not matter if the projector was made with 2K, NT or 98. The problem was with sounds. I removed all the puppetSound-commands and it worked fine. Now I have to find a way to get the sounds back but it's tomorrows problem ;) What is the best sound format for Director? What is the best command to play sound files? How to avoid delays with rollover sounds? - Lauri Puisto - -- From: roy crisman[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. lokakuuta 2002 21:43 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted) Sharon Moeller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The problem is not your pc. The problem is certain bugs in director on a 2000 machine. I have found that an imported flash file will crash director on a 2000 machine in the running environment. I have also found that a sound file, created in Sound Forge, that has markers in it, will also crash director. I had a Win2K sound related problem, too. I wasn't using markers or anything, but I did resample the sounds in SoundForge. After 2 to 48 hours of automated testing, the projector would lock upsometimes a CTRL-ALT-DEL would be able to bring up the taskmanager window, sometimes there was nothing to do but physically turn the machine off. I found that importing the sounds so they were no longer external .wav files solved the problem. roymeo [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
RE: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted)
If you hve MIAWs in your movie, you must forget them properly. I had that same crashing symptom some time ago (in 2k environment) and it was because of MIAWs. Check them out! Jussi Jokinen -- From: Allen Stare-IMM[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16. lokakuuta 2002 18:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted) Yeah, I know, get a Mac. I've got a Mac...I need to upgrade. My Mac's just not as big or as fast as my Win machine so I live with the Win headaches. Except for this one. Anybody got any info? I'm using Director 8.51 on Windows 2000 Vers. 5.00.2195 Service Pack 2. Processor is an AMD Athlon with 512MB RAM and an NVidia PCI Vid Card with 32MB. Problem 1: I can run in author mode for hours on end without a problem...as long as I'm authoring. As soon as I run anything in author mode (for testing purposes, animation movement, etc) I've only got a few minutes before I receive an alert box: A fatal error has occurred. Director will quit now. Director very courteously gives me the chance to save what I was working on before it completely closes down. There is no pattern as to when the stop occurs. Doesn't matter what I'm doing and time varies with each crash. Problem 2: When I launch a project out of a stub projector (standard projector - created on the Win2000 machine with 8.51) it will only run on the Win2000 machine for a few minutes before I get the alert box: [Projector.exe] has generated errors and will be closed by Windows. You will need to restart the program. An error log is being created. (I added the brackets. It actually names the projector.) The same set-up, when put on CD and run on Win98 or Win95 machines, will run without error for hours. When running the CD on the Win2000 machine (instead of off the hard drive), it does the same thing. When crashing out of the stub projector, an error log IS created but it can't be open. I always get the message that it's in use by another program, even when I close everything and reboot before attempting to view it. Are these known errors? Is there a patch/upgrade/workaround/setting that I'm missing or don't know about? As usual, all help is greatly appreciated. Al Allen Stare [EMAIL PROTECTED] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
RE: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted)
Sharon Moeller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The problem is not your pc. The problem is certain bugs in director on a 2000 machine. I have found that an imported flash file will crash director on a 2000 machine in the running environment. I have also found that a sound file, created in Sound Forge, that has markers in it, will also crash director. I had a Win2K sound related problem, too. I wasn't using markers or anything, but I did resample the sounds in SoundForge. After 2 to 48 hours of automated testing, the projector would lock upsometimes a CTRL-ALT-DEL would be able to bring up the taskmanager window, sometimes there was nothing to do but physically turn the machine off. I found that importing the sounds so they were no longer external .wav files solved the problem. roymeo [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
RE: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted)
And I'd suggest you log virtually every action in your project and use this to narrow down where it's locking up. roymeo [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted)
I've been authoring on Win2K for nearly 2 years with no problems at all...It's not Director and it's not Windows in general... it is something specific to your machine... Try narrowing it down some. There must be something in your projector causing the issue... Can you reproduce these problems with a bare bones project? Dave Mennenoh http://www.crackconspiracy.com/~davem [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted)
You don't need to get a mac, just a different version of Windows. Windows 2000 is not a good platform to use for multimedia in general, because it wasn't created for that purpose. Get a copy of Win 98 Second Edition if you want a stable Windows machine (XP might work as well, but I haven't used it). Charlie Fiskeaux II Media Designer The Creative Group www.cre8tivegroup.com 859/858-9054x29 - Original Message - From: Allen Stare-IMM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted) Yeah, I know, get a Mac. I've got a Mac...I need to upgrade. My Mac's just not as big or as fast as my Win machine so I live with the Win headaches. Except for this one. Anybody got any info? I'm using Director 8.51 on Windows 2000 Vers. 5.00.2195 Service Pack 2. Processor is an AMD Athlon with 512MB RAM and an NVidia PCI Vid Card with 32MB. Problem 1: I can run in author mode for hours on end without a problem...as long as I'm authoring. As soon as I run anything in author mode (for testing purposes, animation movement, etc) I've only got a few minutes before I receive an alert box: A fatal error has occurred. Director will quit now. Director very courteously gives me the chance to save what I was working on before it completely closes down. There is no pattern as to when the stop occurs. Doesn't matter what I'm doing and time varies with each crash. Problem 2: When I launch a project out of a stub projector (standard projector - created on the Win2000 machine with 8.51) it will only run on the Win2000 machine for a few minutes before I get the alert box: [Projector.exe] has generated errors and will be closed by Windows. You will need to restart the program. An error log is being created. (I added the brackets. It actually names the projector.) The same set-up, when put on CD and run on Win98 or Win95 machines, will run without error for hours. When running the CD on the Win2000 machine (instead of off the hard drive), it does the same thing. When crashing out of the stub projector, an error log IS created but it can't be open. I always get the message that it's in use by another program, even when I close everything and reboot before attempting to view it. Are these known errors? Is there a patch/upgrade/workaround/setting that I'm missing or don't know about? As usual, all help is greatly appreciated. Al Allen Stare [EMAIL PROTECTED] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted)
i think a more useful path might be to take the same project that's causing problems and try compiling it on a different platform. then see if the project still crashes win2k. is it only one project that's causing problems or can you take an old project and replicate the problem? are you watching memory or cpu cycles at any point? do you have a second win2k box that you tested on (your email seemed to allude that you already did this, but just to clarify)? Also, just a from experience deal, don't trust that windows update has the latest drivers for your hardware...go to the hardware manufacturer's sites btw - i had a similar problem about a year and a half ago on win2k -- i don't think i ever solved it (but was able to work around it) but when i moved on (stopped working on that particular project) all problems went awayi think i remember narrowing it down in that case to a really wierd fluke - (i was puppetting a bunch of sprites and after i'd puppet 60 or so, any time i'd puppet this one text box, everything would die)...anyway, i'm authoring in win2k today w/ no problems...knock on wood -Evan Charlie Fiskeaux II wrote: You don't need to get a mac, just a different version of Windows. Windows 2000 is not a good platform to use for multimedia in general, because it wasn't created for that purpose. Get a copy of Win 98 Second Edition if you want a stable Windows machine (XP might work as well, but I haven't used it). Charlie Fiskeaux II Media Designer The Creative Group www.cre8tivegroup.com 859/858-9054x29 - Original Message - From: Allen Stare-IMM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted) Yeah, I know, get a Mac. I've got a Mac...I need to upgrade. My Mac's just not as big or as fast as my Win machine so I live with the Win headaches. Except for this one. Anybody got any info? I'm using Director 8.51 on Windows 2000 Vers. 5.00.2195 Service Pack 2. Processor is an AMD Athlon with 512MB RAM and an NVidia PCI Vid Card with 32MB. Problem 1: I can run in author mode for hours on end without a problem...as long as I'm authoring. As soon as I run anything in author mode (for testing purposes, animation movement, etc) I've only got a few minutes before I receive an alert box: A fatal error has occurred. Director will quit now. Director very courteously gives me the chance to save what I was working on before it completely closes down. There is no pattern as to when the stop occurs. Doesn't matter what I'm doing and time varies with each crash. Problem 2: When I launch a project out of a stub projector (standard projector - created on the Win2000 machine with 8.51) it will only run on the Win2000 machine for a few minutes before I get the alert box: [Projector.exe] has generated errors and will be closed by Windows. You will need to restart the program. An error log is being created. (I added the brackets. It actually names the projector.) The same set-up, when put on CD and run on Win98 or Win95 machines, will run without error for hours. When running the CD on the Win2000 machine (instead of off the hard drive), it does the same thing. When crashing out of the stub projector, an error log IS created but it can't be open. I always get the message that it's in use by another program, even when I close everything and reboot before attempting to view it. Are these known errors? Is there a patch/upgrade/workaround/setting that I'm missing or don't know about? As usual, all help is greatly appreciated. Al Allen Stare [EMAIL PROTECTED] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ m u t a n t m e d i a solutions for success Evan Adelman | 917.916.7378 | 598 Broadway NY NY 10012 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.mutantmedia.com http://www.mutantmedia.com [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted)
I'm working with Win98 and i nearly never have Problems. (except Kernel32 after running photoshop, director and a few other apps ... but Kernel32-errors is what windows is about *g*) The power of a mac is that you can run let's say, photoshop and director at the same time nearly without any loss of performance ... At 11:35 16.10.02 -0400, you wrote: You don't need to get a mac, just a different version of Windows. Windows 2000 is not a good platform to use for multimedia in general, because it wasn't created for that purpose. Get a copy of Win 98 Second Edition if you want a stable Windows machine (XP might work as well, but I haven't used it). Charlie Fiskeaux II Media Designer The Creative Group www.cre8tivegroup.com 859/858-9054x29 --- -- --- -- --- -- --- -- --- xnorb Professional MultiMediaSolutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.xnorb.at [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted)
You could run Photoshop and Director together without a performance hit if you have a lot of RAM; what I like about Windows (OS X supposedly has dynamic memory allocation as well) is that you never get out of memory errors simply because you opened a 200 MB TIFF and don't have enough RAM allocated to Photoshop... Charlie Fiskeaux II Media Designer The Creative Group www.cre8tivegroup.com 859/858-9054x29 - Original Message - From: XnorB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 12:11 PM Subject: Re: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted) I'm working with Win98 and i nearly never have Problems. (except Kernel32 after running photoshop, director and a few other apps ... but Kernel32-errors is what windows is about *g*) The power of a mac is that you can run let's say, photoshop and director at the same time nearly without any loss of performance ... At 11:35 16.10.02 -0400, you wrote: You don't need to get a mac, just a different version of Windows. Windows 2000 is not a good platform to use for multimedia in general, because it wasn't created for that purpose. Get a copy of Win 98 Second Edition if you want a stable Windows machine (XP might work as well, but I haven't used it). Charlie Fiskeaux II Media Designer The Creative Group www.cre8tivegroup.com 859/858-9054x29 --- -- --- -- --- -- --- -- --- xnorb Professional MultiMediaSolutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.xnorb.at [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted)
On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 10:35 AM, Charlie Fiskeaux II wrote: You don't need to get a mac, just a different version of Windows. But that doesn't address the crash problem, and I believe that should be addressed. It is quite possible to create apps in Director that do not roll over on Windows Me, for instance, and we all know what a stanky dawg that one is. Problem 1: I can run in author mode for hours on end without a problem...as long as I'm authoring. As soon as I run anything in author mode (for testing purposes, animation movement, etc) I've only got a few minutes before I receive an alert box: A fatal error has occurred. Director will quit now. This and your projector problems, Allen, I believe are completely related. You don't generally get this kind of stuff with single-movie projects, so I am going to have to guess at some things. 1. If you are navigating to other movies, do *not* use 'play movie'. Use 'go to movie' instead. play movie appears to retain a stack of all the previously opened movies in the application session, with the result that if you do it enough you will run out of memory. go to movie doesn't do that. 2. If you are dynamically adding, switching or moving Cast members, be very careful about how you get them in, how you remove them and so on. 3. If you are using MIAWs, DO NOT make them self-forget. Something like this in a close button in a MIAW: on mouseUp me forget the activeWindow end will kill your program almost instantly. Doing something like this: on mouseUp me tell the stage to ForgetTheWindow() end ...with the right command in your Stage will *also* kill your app. 4. If you are running MIAWs that play video (this used to happen all the time with NT and AVIs), don't let the MIAW close while the video is playing. Pause the video first. More details about what you're doing will, of course, garner some better feedback, but these are the major general gotchas I can think of OTTOMH. Warren Ockrassa | http://www.nightwares.com/ Director help | Free files | Sample chapters | Freelance | Consulting Author | Director 8.5 Shockwave Studio: A Beginner's Guide Published by Osborne/McGraw-Hill http://shop.osborne.com/cgi-bin/osborne/0072195622.html [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
RE: lingo-l Re: 8.51 Crashing in Windows 2000 (all Winsults accepted)
I am using Win2K and WinXP Pro and have had no problems with either environment. All of our production machines are Win2K that do Video (Premeire), Audio (sound forge), Flash, Photoshop, Bryce rendering, and Illustrator at the same time. Oh yeah and Director 8.5.1. I have had nothing but good experiences with Win2K and WinXP. I would suggest re-installing and then verifying all your drivers and making sure you have the latest updates for your drivers. Todd [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
