Re: lingo-l Definite Bug in IML32.dll/DirAPI.dll v8.5.1.104

2002-11-12 Thread ice
Make a U-turn back...typical in former windows sets of Director-modes. Bitmap 
had one in D7, as often halting or mocking things up... 
General rule, never use first edition or first versions could be thought of 
here... they are for 'the shooting galleries' in cheap testings for the 
public.. On the other hand, what is first? The hen or the egg ?
I gather you have at least some space left on the HD..?
Win NT isn't the best op-system to go on, at least of my knowledge in former 
handling external files. But that was then (NT3)...blockages and so on. W2k is 
of same stuff, but I havn't tested what it might say in networks. At least some 
improvements in shared files in network said. 
But I might be too zceptical again...

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Quoting roy crisman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Last week I installed the 2 new Networking Xtras, and the 2 new DLL's 
 (IML32 and DIRAPI) in my Director 8.5.1 PC Win2000 developing
 environment.
 
 On 3 different Win2000 PC's with D8.5.1.
 
 Now, I can no longer use the debugger when an error happens (clicking 
 [script] or [cancel] is ok, but not [debug]).  I also can't use the 
 debugger by setting a breakpoint.


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Re: lingo-l Definite Bug in IML32.dll/DirAPI.dll v8.5.1.104

2002-11-12 Thread roy crisman
The non-standard upgrade was the instruction set that I got from Macromedia.

They (Tom) posted a link to the technote with the instructions for the two 
new net xtras (for development and shockwave).

Installing them alone caused errors.

Macromedia Tom said Oh yeah, you'll need these two dll files and pointed 
me to them.

That fixed the New Net Xtra problem, but caused this debugger issue.

I'm pretty sure Tom also mentioned using the wish list as a bug reporting 
listfinding that address took enough time, you mean i've got to go much 
around their site looking for a bug-report address, too?

roymeo

At 05:51 PM 11/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Roy,

1) I don't think wish-director is the place to report bugs

2) Where did you get new DLLs?  Did you use a standard upgrade 
install?  Were you going from 8.5 to 8.5.1, or did you just grab some DLLs 
and do a home-upgrade?  Because if so, you probably have a number of 
things out of whack and I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you said you did, but you're describing a 
non-standard upgrade.

- Tab

At 05:25 PM 11/11/02, roy crisman wrote:
Last week I installed the 2 new Networking Xtras, and the 2 new DLL's 
(IML32 and DIRAPI) in my Director 8.5.1 PC Win2000 developing environment.

On 3 different Win2000 PC's with D8.5.1.

Now, I can no longer use the debugger when an error happens (clicking 
[script] or [cancel] is ok, but not [debug]).  I also can't use the 
debugger by setting a breakpoint.

When I try to, I get a WindowsUI message:

Director 8.5  (it's 8.5.1, of course)
A fatal error has occured.  Director will quit now.
[OK]


To help narrow down the problem, I created a new movie, with only

on startmovie
  a = 1
  b = 2
  c = 3
end

in a movie script.  Setting a breakpoint on the second line causes the 
crash above.

I CAN however open the debugger window via the menu or CTRL-`, but it's 
blank, of course.

It's entirely possible that I've somehow screwed things up somewhere 
else, but since my computer at home is doing the same thing, I'm 
beginning to suspect that I couldn't have possibly screwed something up 
twice the same way (3 times when you count the other work computer that I 
saw the behavior on but it's currently out of commission due to hardware 
issues).

===
some testing happens
===

Switching back to the old IML32.dll and DirAPI.dll and 2 network Xtras, 
and the Debugger does not 'fatal error'.

Switching just the IML32 and DirAPI to the new versions, and it errors again.

For reference (cut n pasted version numbers from the info box):

New DirAPI.dll version: 8.5.1.104
New IML32.dll version:  8.5.1.104
(cause crash)

Old DirAPI.dll version: 8.5.1.102
Old IML32.dll version:  8.5.1.102
(no crash)

This problem on Win2000 PC's D8.5.1 has been reported to wish-director AT 
MACR.


roymeo

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Re: lingo-l Definite Bug in IML32.dll/DirAPI.dll v8.5.1.104

2002-11-12 Thread roy crisman
At 10:58 PM 11/11/2002 +, you wrote:

- Original Message -
From: roy crisman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Last week I installed the 2 new Networking Xtras, and the 2 new DLL's
 (IML32 and DIRAPI) in my Director 8.5.1 PC Win2000 developing environment.

Yeah, you shouldn't do that. The files were released to fix a bug in
Shockwave that does not, and never has, affected either the authoring
environment or projectors. I don't know why the technote tells you to copy
the files to your Director folder as well as Shockwave, but it's clearly
wrong.

At least, I'm assuming you're referring to this:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/director/ts/documents/sw_xtraupdate_v106.h
tm

Although it doesn't mention an update to any DLLs, just the Xtras. Where did
the updated DLLs come from?


Updating just the two Xtras caused an alert-type message in Director (and 
Shockwave, I believe), because they were also supposed to be paired with 
the two new DLLs.  Macromedia Tom pointed me to the two DLL's when I whined 
about it not working on another list.

roymeo


I had to reinstall Director as a result of this (didn't back up the old
files), but I got an error on startup (as did at least one other poster on
m.d.l). Fortunately, the Xtras do fix the Shockwave problem. However, I
don't know why they haven't updated the standard download yet (auto-update
doesn't work reliably as stated in the technote (at least not immediately):
you have to apply the patch manually to every system).

- Robert

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Re: lingo-l Definite Bug in IML32.dll/DirAPI.dll v8.5.1.104

2002-11-12 Thread Robert Tweed
- Original Message -
From: roy crisman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'm pretty sure Tom also mentioned using the wish list as a bug reporting
 listfinding that address took enough time, you mean i've got to go
much
 around their site looking for a bug-report address, too?

It is the same. There is a form-mail page here:
http://www.macromedia.com/go/wish/

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Re: lingo-l Definite Bug in IML32.dll/DirAPI.dll v8.5.1.104

2002-11-11 Thread Tab Julius

Roy,

1) I don't think wish-director is the place to report bugs

2) Where did you get new DLLs?  Did you use a standard upgrade 
install?  Were you going from 8.5 to 8.5.1, or did you just grab some DLLs 
and do a home-upgrade?  Because if so, you probably have a number of things 
out of whack and I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you said you did, but you're describing a 
non-standard upgrade.

- Tab

At 05:25 PM 11/11/02, roy crisman wrote:
Last week I installed the 2 new Networking Xtras, and the 2 new DLL's 
(IML32 and DIRAPI) in my Director 8.5.1 PC Win2000 developing environment.

On 3 different Win2000 PC's with D8.5.1.

Now, I can no longer use the debugger when an error happens (clicking 
[script] or [cancel] is ok, but not [debug]).  I also can't use the 
debugger by setting a breakpoint.

When I try to, I get a WindowsUI message:

Director 8.5  (it's 8.5.1, of course)
A fatal error has occured.  Director will quit now.
[OK]


To help narrow down the problem, I created a new movie, with only

on startmovie
  a = 1
  b = 2
  c = 3
end

in a movie script.  Setting a breakpoint on the second line causes the 
crash above.

I CAN however open the debugger window via the menu or CTRL-`, but it's 
blank, of course.

It's entirely possible that I've somehow screwed things up somewhere else, 
but since my computer at home is doing the same thing, I'm beginning to 
suspect that I couldn't have possibly screwed something up twice the same 
way (3 times when you count the other work computer that I saw the 
behavior on but it's currently out of commission due to hardware issues).

===
some testing happens
===

Switching back to the old IML32.dll and DirAPI.dll and 2 network Xtras, 
and the Debugger does not 'fatal error'.

Switching just the IML32 and DirAPI to the new versions, and it errors again.

For reference (cut n pasted version numbers from the info box):

New DirAPI.dll version: 8.5.1.104
New IML32.dll version:  8.5.1.104
(cause crash)

Old DirAPI.dll version: 8.5.1.102
Old IML32.dll version:  8.5.1.102
(no crash)

This problem on Win2000 PC's D8.5.1 has been reported to wish-director AT 
MACR.


roymeo

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Re: lingo-l Definite Bug in IML32.dll/DirAPI.dll v8.5.1.104

2002-11-11 Thread Robert Tweed
- Original Message -
From: roy crisman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Last week I installed the 2 new Networking Xtras, and the 2 new DLL's
 (IML32 and DIRAPI) in my Director 8.5.1 PC Win2000 developing environment.

Yeah, you shouldn't do that. The files were released to fix a bug in
Shockwave that does not, and never has, affected either the authoring
environment or projectors. I don't know why the technote tells you to copy
the files to your Director folder as well as Shockwave, but it's clearly
wrong.

At least, I'm assuming you're referring to this:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/director/ts/documents/sw_xtraupdate_v106.h
tm

Although it doesn't mention an update to any DLLs, just the Xtras. Where did
the updated DLLs come from?

I had to reinstall Director as a result of this (didn't back up the old
files), but I got an error on startup (as did at least one other poster on
m.d.l). Fortunately, the Xtras do fix the Shockwave problem. However, I
don't know why they haven't updated the standard download yet (auto-update
doesn't work reliably as stated in the technote (at least not immediately):
you have to apply the patch manually to every system).

- Robert

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