Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
That won't work. The files have to be joined together. and that can only be done on a Mac? - Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:20 PM Subject: Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder On Mar 4, 2004, at 2:03 PM, Joe Lister wrote: However, I have had no success when authoring for Mac from Dir MX 2004 on PC while keeping the xtras external (ie putting the .data and .rsrc files for each extra in an xtras folder next to the projector). That won't work. The files have to be joined together. Warren Ockrassa | President, nightwares LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] nightwares LLC | Consulting Programming http://www.nightwares.com/ Author | Director 8.5 Shockwave Studio: A Beginner's Guide Chapter samples | http://www.nightwares.com/director_beginners_guide/ [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
On Mar 5, 2004, at 8:05 AM, Joe Lister wrote: That won't work. The files have to be joined together. and that can only be done on a Mac? I believe that was the reason Gretchen made the joiner program that she mentioned in her email. Warren Ockrassa | President, nightwares LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] nightwares LLC | Consulting Programming http://www.nightwares.com/ Author | Director 8.5 Shockwave Studio: A Beginner's Guide Chapter samples | http://www.nightwares.com/director_beginners_guide/ [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
On Mar 4, 2004, at 6:32 PM, Buzz Kettles wrote: Then how can one create a mac fast-start projector when authoring under Windows? One probably can't. Unless one uses Gretchen's utility, assuming that's what it's made it do. -- WthmO [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
I believe that was the reason Gretchen made the joiner program that she mentioned in her email. I think that program only works on a Mac! If you download it from the location she mentioned its a .sit file. So still no closer :( - Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder On Mar 5, 2004, at 8:05 AM, Joe Lister wrote: That won't work. The files have to be joined together. and that can only be done on a Mac? I believe that was the reason Gretchen made the joiner program that she mentioned in her email. Warren Ockrassa | President, nightwares LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] nightwares LLC | Consulting Programming http://www.nightwares.com/ Author | Director 8.5 Shockwave Studio: A Beginner's Guide Chapter samples | http://www.nightwares.com/director_beginners_guide/ [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
On Mar 5, 2004, at 10:47 AM, Joe Lister wrote: I believe that was the reason Gretchen made the joiner program that she mentioned in her email. I think that program only works on a Mac! If you download it from the location she mentioned its a .sit file. So still no closer :( True, she did say it was for Mac users. I had the impression somehow that you had access to an OSX system. Mea culpa. :( So in some cases it looks like a fast-start option really isn't an option, unless one has not only a Mac handy, but possibly a Director as well. To be entirely honest I don't often see much use or call for fast start of late. CDs are faster all the time, and Dir10 even lets you publish with a splash screen image now so users get the sense that *something* is happening during app load. I realize it's not much consolation but it's something to consider. Warren Ockrassa | President, nightwares LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] nightwares LLC | Consulting Programming http://www.nightwares.com/ Author | Director 8.5 Shockwave Studio: A Beginner's Guide Chapter samples | http://www.nightwares.com/director_beginners_guide/ [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
Warren Ockrassa wrote: Dir10 even lets you publish with a splash screen image now so users get the sense that *something* is happening during app load. All recent versions of Director let you use a splash image: on Windows, if your projector is 'start.exe', place 'start.bmp' next to the projector, on Mac, if your projector is 'start', place 'start.pct' (or maybe 'start.pic', I forget which) next to your projector. -- Charlie Fiskeaux II Media Developer Cre8tive Group cre8tivegroup.com [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
on Mac, if your projector is 'start', place 'start.pct' (or maybe 'start.pic', I forget which) next to your projector. .pct [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
On Mar 5, 2004, at 11:08 AM, Charlie Fiskeaux II wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: Dir10 even lets you publish with a splash screen image now so users get the sense that *something* is happening during app load. All recent versions of Director let you use a splash image. Yes; however it's only with 10 that it's officially supported. The splash trick, for instance, does not work as expected on OSX using Dir9 (MX). The publish settings for 10 let you specify a frame for the splash as well, which is very nice. It's good to see it officially supported at last. :) Warren Ockrassa | President, nightwares LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] nightwares LLC | Consulting Programming http://www.nightwares.com/ Author | Director 8.5 Shockwave Studio: A Beginner's Guide Chapter samples | http://www.nightwares.com/director_beginners_guide/ [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
ok, that looks useful. However, I have had no success when authoring for Mac from Dir MX 2004 on PC while keeping the xtras external (ie putting the .data and .rsrc files for each extra in an xtras folder next to the projector). It just don't work for me, although I am limited in my ability to test as I don't have a OSX machine in house, I have to rely on feedback from my client. I have been able to make a Mac projector successfully by including the xtras in the projector. Do most people find it a straightforward process? - Original Message - From: Gretchen Macdowall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 1:51 AM Subject: Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder I know that many xtra developers have figured out the method of splitting but I'm not sure how to restore. If you have access to a Mac, you can use this utility that I made. It requires the demo version of BinaryIO Xtra. It splits and joins. http://www.updatestage.com/xtras/xtradownloads.html#splitxtra --- Gretchen Macdowall www.updatestage.com [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
On Mar 4, 2004, at 2:03 PM, Joe Lister wrote: However, I have had no success when authoring for Mac from Dir MX 2004 on PC while keeping the xtras external (ie putting the .data and .rsrc files for each extra in an xtras folder next to the projector). That won't work. The files have to be joined together. Warren Ockrassa | President, nightwares LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] nightwares LLC | Consulting Programming http://www.nightwares.com/ Author | Director 8.5 Shockwave Studio: A Beginner's Guide Chapter samples | http://www.nightwares.com/director_beginners_guide/ [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
At 2:20 PM -0600 3/4/04, you wrote: On Mar 4, 2004, at 2:03 PM, Joe Lister wrote: However, I have had no success when authoring for Mac from Dir MX 2004 on PC while keeping the xtras external (ie putting the .data and .rsrc files for each extra in an xtras folder next to the projector). That won't work. The files have to be joined together. Then how can one create a mac fast-start projector when authoring under Windows? -Buzz [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
ok, looking up the corrresponding mac filenames in xtrainfo.txt helps a lot,
thanks.
The mac xtras are not binhexed in the PC installation
('..Configuration\Cross Platform Resources\Macintosh'), but each xtra is
supplied as two files, eg
SWA Decompression PPC Xtra.data
SWA Decompression PPC Xtra.rsrc
because PC's can't handle the dual fork nature of Mac files.
My project is uses very few asset types, and I suspect that some of the
xtras that director added into the 'Movie Xtras' dialog are unnecessary.
Does anyone know of a list that briefly describes the purpose of all the
standard xtras that ship with director? It would really help to know which
of the xtras are _really_ needed for distribution.
- Original Message -
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
On Mar 2, 2004, at 8:17 AM, Joe Lister wrote:
I am athoring a movie using Director MX 2004 on windows. I want to
use a
stub projector with the xtras kept externally. I have set this up for
the
pc projector - the necassary xtras copied into a folder called
'xtras', and
the xtras removed from the 'Movie Xtras' dialog in director. How do I
go
about it for the OSX projector? I know there is a folder called
'..Configuration\Cross Platform Resources\Macintosh' in the director
application folder, but which files to copy, and to where?
They'd go into an Xtras folder like the PC ones. As for which, most Mac
filenames should be adequate, but you can also have a look at the
xtrainfo.txt file to see where the Mac vs. Win filenames are different.
I don't know if the OSX Xtras for DMX04 have been BinHexed or not. If
so you;ll have to process them on a Mac before you add them to your
projector's Xtras folder. However I'm betting they have *not* been
binhexed and will work just fine as they are.
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Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
Hi Does anyone know of a list that briefly describes the purpose of all the standard xtras that ship with director? It would really help to know which of the xtras are _really_ needed for distribution. Does this helps? http://www.macromedia.com/support/director/ts/documents/director_xtras.htm cheers, séb [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
I know that many xtra developers have figured out the method of splitting but I'm not sure how to restore. If you have access to a Mac, you can use this utility that I made. It requires the demo version of BinaryIO Xtra. It splits and joins. http://www.updatestage.com/xtras/xtradownloads.html#splitxtra --- Gretchen Macdowall www.updatestage.com [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
On Mar 2, 2004, at 8:17 AM, Joe Lister wrote: I am athoring a movie using Director MX 2004 on windows. I want to use a stub projector with the xtras kept externally. I have set this up for the pc projector - the necassary xtras copied into a folder called 'xtras', and the xtras removed from the 'Movie Xtras' dialog in director. How do I go about it for the OSX projector? I know there is a folder called '..Configuration\Cross Platform Resources\Macintosh' in the director application folder, but which files to copy, and to where? They'd go into an Xtras folder like the PC ones. As for which, most Mac filenames should be adequate, but you can also have a look at the xtrainfo.txt file to see where the Mac vs. Win filenames are different. I don't know if the OSX Xtras for DMX04 have been BinHexed or not. If so you;ll have to process them on a Mac before you add them to your projector's Xtras folder. However I'm betting they have *not* been binhexed and will work just fine as they are. Warren Ockrassa | President, nightwares LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] nightwares LLC | Consulting Programming http://www.nightwares.com/ Author | Director 8.5 Shockwave Studio: A Beginner's Guide Chapter samples | http://www.nightwares.com/director_beginners_guide/ [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
Hi Joe I'm not sure how you would do it, the libs and xtras for a stub projector have the resource and data forks seperated out into different files that must be reconstituted to work (at least that would be my interpretation. I know that many xtra developers have figured out the method of splitting but I'm not sure how to restore. I was hoping that Macromedia would have bundled the libs and xtras in a seperate sit file that we could bring over to the OSX and build up our shockwave projector there from the publish output projector. That does not appear to be the case though. You can't use Shockwave to get all the required parts as the release version isn't ready yet and of course the SW folder won't have non-SW xtras in it. Otherwise you could take the 4 lib files and the remaining xtras from there and then all you would have needed are the non-SW xtras. Sincerely Mark R. Jonkman _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/viruspgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
RE: lingo-l cross platform xtras in external folder
Hi Joe One other thought, if you have an OSX box kicking around, simply install the trial version of Director MX 2004 on OSX, grab the appropriate libs and xtras out of the install and use them for your shockwave projector. I'd back up the entire xtras folder. The libs are hidden in the Director MX 2004 bundle so control click on the Director MX 2004 icon and choose show Package Contents and browse the contents for the MacOS folder.. the libs are in there. That should solve your problem. Sincerely Mark R. Jonkman [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
