Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Scott Murphy wrote: > I’m up for adding a git talk to the November meeting. I’m doing what > I expect will be a shorter ansible talk about using it to configure > your laptop, workstation, or whatever. I doubt it will be a two hour > talk. I suspect that the main points will be covered in 30 to 45 > minutes. so can we get a more precise schedule? as i mentioned, i offered to present what can be a 30-minute talk on the architecture of the git object database. the oclug web page states, "Robert Day and John Nash will lead a discussion on using git", but i have no idea what that means. can someone clarify whether there is any interest in my proposed talk and, if so, where it would fit in the evening? thanks. rday
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Scott Murphy wrote: > > > I’m up for adding a git talk to the November meeting. I’m doing what > > I expect will be a shorter ansible talk about using it to configure > > your laptop, workstation, or whatever. I doubt it will be a two hour > > talk. I suspect that the main points will be covered in 30 to 45 > > minutes. > > so can we get a more precise schedule? as i mentioned, i offered to > present what can be a 30-minute talk on the architecture of the git > object database. the oclug web page states, "Robert Day and John Nash > will lead a discussion on using git", but i have no idea what that > means. > > can someone clarify whether there is any interest in my proposed > talk and, if so, where it would fit in the evening? thanks. as a followup to this, i think the description of upcoming meetings should always be more precise and scheduled so that interested parties can better decide if it's something they're interested in. currently, the description is somewhat vague: * Scott Murphy will talk about provisioning your personal systems with ansible * Robert Day and John Nash will lead a discussion on using git if someone is interested in ansible, they would still be wondering exactly what the topic would be. more to the point, if someone had no idea what ansible is, it would be worth adding a couple sentences to describe it to get their attention. and i'm willing to provide a paragraph of exactly what my proposed talk would be about so attendees would know just what's coming, and if they care. :-) if there's time for my presentation, i'd advertise it socially, but it would need more detail on the web page. thoughts? rday
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
When I posted the announcement (not the email, but Scott has more or less copied my wording), I anticipated what he suggests -- 30-45 mins for each topic. Assuming Scott goes first, I think we can assume starting git discussion about 7:15, and I was presuming Robert would begin with about 30 mins of more or less standard talk, and I would moderate Q&A to get in some topics I feel affect those of us who are non-power users and need a way to avoid being "cold" each time we need to use git. Robert: Does that work for you? This conversation highlights the situation that Linux-Ottawa is a much less focussed group than a few years ago, and the general lack of organizational manpower to plan and direct meetings. Those of us still doing it do make sure there is a space and some topic. Sometimes we've more structure than others. I note that lots of other organizations are facing similar challenges. Meetups seem to pop up and die quite a lot. Traditional organizations find folk claiming not to have time. Maybe we need 5 days a month where mobiles only handle phone calls. Or a mandatory app that allows only 35 mins a day lit screen. We also have several different streams of users. Whereas when I started to come to the then OCLUG meetings, it was mostly folk doing software development. Now we also have Win-refugees, people wanting to use open source software who are not necessarily programmers, as well as our hard-core. Some members may feel that this "just isn't like it used to be", and makes for difficult meetings -- it does! The up-side is that Linux is now more widely used, and by a more diverse base. That could be an opportunity, but probably we need to involve new members to exploit that. JN On 2019-11-01 7:42 a.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Scott Murphy wrote: >> >>> I’m up for adding a git talk to the November meeting. I’m doing what >>> I expect will be a shorter ansible talk about using it to configure >>> your laptop, workstation, or whatever. I doubt it will be a two hour >>> talk. I suspect that the main points will be covered in 30 to 45 >>> minutes. >> >> so can we get a more precise schedule? as i mentioned, i offered to >> present what can be a 30-minute talk on the architecture of the git >> object database. the oclug web page states, "Robert Day and John Nash >> will lead a discussion on using git", but i have no idea what that >> means. >> >> can someone clarify whether there is any interest in my proposed >> talk and, if so, where it would fit in the evening? thanks. > > as a followup to this, i think the description of upcoming meetings > should always be more precise and scheduled so that interested parties > can better decide if it's something they're interested in. > > currently, the description is somewhat vague: > > * Scott Murphy will talk about provisioning your personal systems > with ansible > * Robert Day and John Nash will lead a discussion on using git > > if someone is interested in ansible, they would still be wondering > exactly what the topic would be. more to the point, if someone had no > idea what ansible is, it would be worth adding a couple sentences to > describe it to get their attention. > > and i'm willing to provide a paragraph of exactly what my proposed > talk would be about so attendees would know just what's coming, and if > they care. :-) > > if there's time for my presentation, i'd advertise it socially, but > it would need more detail on the web page. > > thoughts? > > rday > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] How are the oc-linux meetings announced, or is there a master schedule?
Hi Richard The organizer of another Ottawa group is planning an alternative to Meetup. It is more than an alternative, it looks like a big improvement. See https://flawk.to/roadmap Cheers Rick On October 31, 2019 11:15:43 AM EDT, Richard Guy Briggs wrote: >On 2019-10-31 09:59, Rick Leir wrote: >> Scott >> Would you mind reminding me when the upcoming meeting is? From >memory, >> it is the first Thursday of each month, so it would be... But the >> neurons are over committed. >> >> If we were a meetup group, then there would be a nice ical file >> attached to the announcement email. And we would have new people >> attending. I am not pushing for that, but the ical attachment would >be >> nice. > >Meetup has changed enough with parent company WeWork under financial >pressure that Meetup has become more and more difficult to justify >financially. I don't know where they are headed, but I know of a >number >of groups that have stopped using the platform and others that are >actively campaigning to find community-friendly alternatives. > >> Rick > > slainte mhath, RGB > >-- >Richard Guy Briggs -- ~\-- ~\ > > -- \___ o \@ @Ride >yer bike! >Ottawa, ON, CANADA -- Lo_>__M__\\/\%__\\/\% >Vote! -- >_GTVS6#790__(*)__(*)(*)(*)_ > >To unsubscribe send a blank message to >linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org >To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org >To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: [linux] How are the oc-linux meetings announced, or is there a master schedule?
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Rick Leir wrote: The organizer of another Ottawa group is planning an alternative to Meetup. It is more than an alternative, it looks like a big improvement. See https://flawk.to/roadmap More useful background on Eric and his intentions here. https://dev.to/ericadamski/creating-more-meaningful-interactions-4j2h To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
I'm also interested in Robert's git talk, as proposed by Robert. bjb On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 03:10:07AM -0400, Kevin Szabo wrote: > Newbie here, so I don't know how the group votes on topics so please excuse > if this is the wrong method. > > I would love a Git fundamentals talk. I've use SCCS RCS CVS Subversion PLS > Clearcase etc, but never had the foundations course on Git. I think it > would be useful for me to help make the mental map between the various > version control systems > > - Kevin > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 5:29 AM Robert P. J. Day > wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: > > > > > Indeed, I'm mainly interested in pragmatic use. As indicated "cheat > > > notes"... > > > > ironically, when i teach my full intro git class, the very, very > > first thing i explain is that, while lots of people just want a git > > "cheat sheet", that doesn't really help you unless you understand the > > underlying architecture. > > > > i'm not joking ... i always start off with something like, "i > > realize a lot of you just want a cheat sheet, you know, give me the 10 > > or 20 git commands i need to be productive, and i'm outta here." and i > > immediately explain, "it doesn't work that way; unless you truly > > understand something called the 'object database' and what git objects > > are and how they work together, you have no chance of truly knowing > > how to use git." > > > > so after basic git configuration and cloning a repository, i explain > > very carefully about git objects (blob, tree, commit, tag), and how > > they are used to represent git history, at which point there is always > > a revelation on the part of the class, "oh, wow, now i get it." and > > without that understanding of the underlying architecture, you're > > never going to feel comfortable with git as you're never going to be > > sure what it's really *doing*. > > > > anyway, just my $0.02. that's what i was offering to present, if > > there's time and folks are interested. > > > > rday > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org > > To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org > > To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org > > > > ---end quoted text--- To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] My recommendation for a .ca registrar
I am super happy to second Brett's recommendation of Namespro.ca. They know their stuff and they have great effective and prompt customer support. bjb On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 07:39:48PM -0400, Brett Delmage wrote: > I had a ticket today with my domain registrar, Namespro.ca, to transfer out ... > Namespro.ca was prompt, friendly, and businesslike about unlocking the ... > Brett ---end quoted text--- To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
