Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023

[Scott Murphy]

OCUUG (later Ocbug) was mostly social with occasional technical content. I 
think it started as a technical group and eventually became more social, at 
least that is my memory of it. I was not part of the early years.

The old website is still up, sporting my mock license plate: http://ocuug.on.ca

I may still have access to modify things, but it was a very long time ago and 
might take me a while to locate the credentials.

Cheers,
Scott
--
Scott Murphy
scott.mur...@arrow-eye.com

> On Mar 31, 2023, at 15:30, Katherine Mcmillan  wrote:
> 
> Illumos would be a great one to include too.
> 
> -Katie
> From: Katherine Mcmillan 
> Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18
> To: Richard Guy Briggs 
> Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa 
> 
> Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
> 
> "OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop 
> existing?
> 
> Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now?  Don't get me 
> wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and others 
> anytime, but it isn't really a formal group.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Katie
> From: Richard Guy Briggs 
> Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20
> To: Katherine Mcmillan 
> Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa 
> 
> Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
> 
> Attention : courriel externe | external email
> 
> On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> > Hi Tug,
> >
> > Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an 
> > "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be 
> > "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or 
> > just "CRUUG").  I ask for several reasons:
> 
> OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG.  They effectively became OCBUG.
> 
> >   1.  I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD 
> > focussed international conference).
> >   2.  BSDCan> 
> > is coming up in Ottawa!
> >   3.  I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks 
> > all for including me if any of you are on this list!)  Theo de Raadt was 
> > speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness.  It seemed like a 
> > successful user group and approach.
> >   4.  There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD 
> > users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and 
> > Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to 
> > leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Katie
> > 
> > From: Tug Williams 
> > Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31
> > To: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
> > Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
> >
> > Attention : courriel externe | external email
> >
> > When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023
> > Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06 
> > 
> >
> > Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters.
> >
> > Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - 
> > If you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable 
> > sharing with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then 
> > please let us know.
> >
> > We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and 
> > discussing...
> >
> > Topics
> >
> > 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not 
> > the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has 
> > outlived is benefit)
> > 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One"
> > 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point"
> >
> >
> > Proposal to dissolve corporation
> >
> > Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the 
> > dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton 
> > Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767.
> >
> > In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources 
> > of a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a corporation 
> > no longer apply.
> >
> > This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, 
> > with member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular 
> > virtual and hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step forward 
> > willing to take on Board responsibilities, and the current Board is not in 
> > a position to carry out the legally required administrative operations. A 
> > requirement of dissolution is to transfer resources to an organization with 
> > similar goals. The National Capital Freenet has indicated their willingness 
> > to accept a donation. Moreover, they use and promote open-source software 
> > and have suggested that they would use some of the monies to increase such 
> > activity. Note that we could assist in such work, as some of us are already 
> > NCF members and supporters.

Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023

[Katherine Mcmillan]

Illumos would be a great one to include too.

-Katie

From: Katherine Mcmillan 
Sent: 31 March 2023 15:18
To: Richard Guy Briggs 
Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa 
Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023

"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop 
existing?

Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now?  Don't get me 
wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and others 
anytime, but it isn't really a formal group.

Sincerely,
Katie

From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20
To: Katherine Mcmillan 
Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa 
Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> Hi Tug,
>
> Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an 
> "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be 
> "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just 
> "CRUUG").  I ask for several reasons:

OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG.  They effectively became OCBUG.

>   1.  I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD focussed 
> international conference).
>   2.  BSDCan is coming up in Ottawa!
>   3.  I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks 
> all for including me if any of you are on this list!)  Theo de Raadt was 
> speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness.  It seemed like a 
> successful user group and approach.
>   4.  There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD 
> users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and 
> Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to 
> leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems.
>
> Sincerely,
> Katie
> 
> From: Tug Williams 
> Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31
> To: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
> Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
>
> Attention : courriel externe | external email
>
> When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023
> Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06
>
> Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters.
>
> Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - If 
> you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable sharing 
> with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then please let 
> us know.
>
> We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and 
> discussing...
>
> Topics
>
> 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not 
> the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has outlived 
> is benefit)
> 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One"
> 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point"
>
>
> Proposal to dissolve corporation
>
> Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the 
> dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton Linux 
> Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767.
>
> In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources of 
> a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a corporation no 
> longer apply.
>
> This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, with 
> member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular virtual 
> and hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step forward willing to 
> take on Board responsibilities, and the current Board is not in a position to 
> carry out the legally required administrative operations. A requirement of 
> dissolution is to transfer resources to an organization with similar goals. 
> The National Capital Freenet has indicated their willingness to accept a 
> donation. Moreover, they use and promote open-source software and have 
> suggested that they would use some of the monies to increase such activity. 
> Note that we could assist in such work, as some of us are already NCF members 
> and supporters.
>
> Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the 
> technical details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee 
> under $400.
>
> Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable plan 
> that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote.
>
> The motion is as follows:
>
> We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario 
> Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation 
> and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet.
>
> Procedure:
>
> All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name 
> before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email 
> from secret...@linux-ottawa.org

Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023

[Katherine Mcmillan]

"OCUNIX"! That's awesome Richard - it wasn't successful? When did it stop 
existing?

Doesn't the OCBUG have the same problem as the OCLUG right now?  Don't get me 
wrong, I would go out to a Royal Oak and chat with Scott, Ian and others 
anytime, but it isn't really a formal group.

Sincerely,
Katie

From: Richard Guy Briggs 
Sent: 31 March 2023 14:20
To: Katherine Mcmillan 
Cc: Tug Williams ; Linux-Ottawa 
Subject: Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023

Attention : courriel externe | external email

On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> Hi Tug,
>
> Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an 
> "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be 
> "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just 
> "CRUUG").  I ask for several reasons:

OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG.  They effectively became OCBUG.

>   1.  I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD focussed 
> international conference).
>   2.  BSDCan is coming up in Ottawa!
>   3.  I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks 
> all for including me if any of you are on this list!)  Theo de Raadt was 
> speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness.  It seemed like a 
> successful user group and approach.
>   4.  There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD 
> users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and 
> Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to 
> leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems.
>
> Sincerely,
> Katie
> 
> From: Tug Williams 
> Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31
> To: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
> Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
>
> Attention : courriel externe | external email
>
> When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023
> Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06
>
> Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters.
>
> Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - If 
> you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable sharing 
> with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then please let 
> us know.
>
> We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and 
> discussing...
>
> Topics
>
> 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not 
> the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has outlived 
> is benefit)
> 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One"
> 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point"
>
>
> Proposal to dissolve corporation
>
> Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the 
> dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton Linux 
> Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767.
>
> In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources of 
> a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a corporation no 
> longer apply.
>
> This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, with 
> member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular virtual 
> and hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step forward willing to 
> take on Board responsibilities, and the current Board is not in a position to 
> carry out the legally required administrative operations. A requirement of 
> dissolution is to transfer resources to an organization with similar goals. 
> The National Capital Freenet has indicated their willingness to accept a 
> donation. Moreover, they use and promote open-source software and have 
> suggested that they would use some of the monies to increase such activity. 
> Note that we could assist in such work, as some of us are already NCF members 
> and supporters.
>
> Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the 
> technical details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee 
> under $400.
>
> Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable plan 
> that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote.
>
> The motion is as follows:
>
> We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario 
> Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation 
> and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet.
>
> Procedure:
>
> All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name 
> before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email 
> from secret...@linux-ottawa.org to each 
> such person on or before April 6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April 6th 
> EDT. You may vote before the April 6th meeting, or wait for the discussions 
> at that meeting.
>

  slainte mhath, RGB
--
Richard Guy Brig

Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2023-03-31 17:25, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:
> Hi Tug,
> 
> Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an 
> "Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be 
> "CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just 
> "CRUUG").  I ask for several reasons:

OCUNIX used to exist, so did OCUUG.  They effectively became OCBUG.

>   1.  I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD focussed 
> international conference).
>   2.  BSDCan is coming up in Ottawa!
>   3.  I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks 
> all for including me if any of you are on this list!)  Theo de Raadt was 
> speaking, and that was really fantastic to witness.  It seemed like a 
> successful user group and approach.
>   4.  There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD 
> users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and 
> Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to 
> leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Katie
> 
> From: Tug Williams 
> Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31
> To: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
> Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023
> 
> Attention : courriel externe | external email
> 
> When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023
> Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06
> 
> Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters.
> 
> Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - If 
> you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable sharing 
> with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then please let 
> us know.
> 
> We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and 
> discussing...
> 
> Topics
> 
> 1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not 
> the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has outlived 
> is benefit)
> 2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One"
> 3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point"
> 
> 
> Proposal to dissolve corporation
> 
> Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the 
> dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton Linux 
> Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767.
> 
> In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources of 
> a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a corporation no 
> longer apply.
> 
> This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, with 
> member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular virtual 
> and hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step forward willing to 
> take on Board responsibilities, and the current Board is not in a position to 
> carry out the legally required administrative operations. A requirement of 
> dissolution is to transfer resources to an organization with similar goals. 
> The National Capital Freenet has indicated their willingness to accept a 
> donation. Moreover, they use and promote open-source software and have 
> suggested that they would use some of the monies to increase such activity. 
> Note that we could assist in such work, as some of us are already NCF members 
> and supporters.
> 
> Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the 
> technical details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee 
> under $400.
> 
> Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable plan 
> that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote.
> 
> The motion is as follows:
> 
> We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario 
> Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation 
> and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet.
> 
> Procedure:
> 
> All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name 
> before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email 
> from secret...@linux-ottawa.org to each 
> such person on or before April 6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April 6th 
> EDT. You may vote before the April 6th meeting, or wait for the discussions 
> at that meeting.
> 

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Re: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023

[Katherine Mcmillan]

Hi Tug,

Just out of curiousity, has there ever been any discussion about forming an 
"Ottawa Unix User Group"? (although "OUUG" sounds terrible, and it can't be 
"CUUG" because that's already taken - I suppose it could be "NCRUUG" or just 
"CRUUG").  I ask for several reasons:

  1.  I'm currently on the Board of Directors for EuroBSDCon (a *BSD focussed 
international conference).
  2.  BSDCan is coming up in Ottawa!
  3.  I recently attended a Calgary Unix User Group (CUUG) meeting (thanks all 
for including me if any of you are on this list!)  Theo de Raadt was speaking, 
and that was really fantastic to witness.  It seemed like a successful user 
group and approach.
  4.  There are a number of people based in Ottawa and Quebec that are *BSD 
users/developers/advocates, and more recently I've come across some QNX and 
Darwin people. There seems to be potential for a collaborative approach to 
leveraging Unix and Unix-like operating systems.

Sincerely,
Katie

From: Tug Williams 
Sent: 31 March 2023 11:31
To: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
Subject: [linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023

Attention : courriel externe | external email

When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023
Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06

Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters.

Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings - If 
you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable sharing with 
the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, then please let us know.

We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and 
discussing...

Topics

1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation (not the 
club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes has outlived is 
benefit)
2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One"
3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point"


Proposal to dissolve corporation

Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the 
dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton Linux 
Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767.

In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and resources of a 
corporation for some years, the motivations for having a corporation no longer 
apply.

This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, with 
member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular virtual and 
hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step forward willing to take 
on Board responsibilities, and the current Board is not in a position to carry 
out the legally required administrative operations. A requirement of 
dissolution is to transfer resources to an organization with similar goals. The 
National Capital Freenet has indicated their willingness to accept a donation. 
Moreover, they use and promote open-source software and have suggested that 
they would use some of the monies to increase such activity. Note that we could 
assist in such work, as some of us are already NCF members and supporters.

Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the technical 
details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee under $400.

Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable plan 
that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote.

The motion is as follows:

We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation 
number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that corporation and transfer of 
residual money to the National Capital Freenet.

Procedure:

All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal name 
before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent by email 
from secret...@linux-ottawa.org to each such 
person on or before April 6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April 6th EDT. You 
may vote before the April 6th meeting, or wait for the discussions at that 
meeting.

[linux] OCLUG meeting Thursday April 6th 2023

[Tug Williams]

When: 7pm Thursday April 6th 2023
Where: https://meet.jit.si/oclug_2023-04-06

Check the mailing list for individuals hosting in-person clusters.

Request for volunteers to give talks, short or long, for future meetings 
- If you have a Linux related presentation or demo you'd be comfortable 
sharing with the group, or a discussion topic you wish to introduce, 
then please let us know.


We have a couple of talks, and a proposed change that needs airing and 
discussing...


_*Topics*_

1) Discussion of the boards proposal to dissolve the OCLUG corporation 
(not the club, just the not-for-profit corporation the board believes 
has outlived is benefit)

2) talk from Katie McMillan: "The Princess and the Wacom One"
3) talk from John Nash: "M1 Macintosh and floating point"

_*Proposal to dissolve corporation*_

Linux-Ottawa members are asked to vote as per instructions below on the 
dissolution of the Ontario not-for-profit corporation "Ottawa Carleton 
Linux Users Group" Ontario Corporation number 1476767.


In that we have not organized events requiring the structure and 
resources of a corporation for some years, the motivations for having a 
corporation no longer apply.


This vote does NOT imply that Linux-Ottawa will not continue. We intend, 
with member support, to continue the electronic mailing list and regular 
virtual and hybrid meetings. However, we have not had anyone step 
forward willing to take on Board responsibilities, and the current Board 
is not in a position to carry out the legally required administrative 
operations. A requirement of dissolution is to transfer resources to an 
organization with similar goals. The National Capital Freenet has 
indicated their willingness to accept a donation. Moreover, they use and 
promote open-source software and have suggested that they would use some 
of the monies to increase such activity. Note that we could assist in 
such work, as some of us are already NCF members and supporters.


Assuming the vote is positive, an agent will be engaged to handle the 
technical details. One such agency has indicated willingness, with a fee 
under $400.


Note that there is no Plan B unless some members step up with a viable 
plan that can get majority member approval in a recorded vote.


The motion is as follows:

We, the members of the "Ottawa Carleton Linux Users Group" Ontario 
Corporation number 1476767 are in favour of dissolution of that 
corporation and transfer of residual money to the National Capital Freenet.


Procedure:

All members who have responded to the request to provide their legal 
name before March 27, 2023, are eligible to vote. A ballot will be sent 
by email from secret...@linux-ottawa.org to each such person on or 
before April 6. Voting will close at 11:59pm on April 6th EDT. You may 
vote before the April 6th meeting, or wait for the discussions at that 
meeting.