Re: [linux] I don't have a mobile device.

2022-11-06 Thread Rob Echlin


Nov. 6, 2022 8:16:07 a.m. Richard Guy Briggs :

> On 2022-11-06 07:03, Rick Leir wrote:
>> RGB, team:
>>
>> While on the topic of uncommon equipment choices, ...
>>
>> I do have a mobile device. But I don't have a working machine with
>> Microsoft's OS on it.
>>
>> What do you run your tax preparation app on? Ufile and such only work on
>> Microsoft's OS. Run it in a VM?
>>
>> Run Ufile / TurboTax in Wine?
>>
>> Do it on a paper form?
>>
>> Or the worst choice: at a web site?
>
> ufile.ca web site, but it hasn't been working lately for recent years,
> dunno if it is a browser issue.  It was working until about a year ago,
> but then it stopped working on the last 5 or so.

I use simpletax, which is now part of wealthsimple.

Rob

>
>> cheers -- Rick
>>
>> On 2022-11-02 08:31, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
>>> On 2022-11-02 06:35, Tug Williams wrote:
 On 01/11/2022 22:06, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> On 2022-11-01 16:29, Tug Williams wrote:
>> …
> Ok, I'll propose to meet at the Royal Oak.  I'll suggest the
> Wellington/Hinton location because there seem to be more people in the
> west end.  (I can see a Royal Oak from my home office here, but I'm east
> of parliament...)
>
>> …
> I won't have any mobile device with me.
 RGB: Just to be unambiguous here. Are you saying
 a) you're leaving your phone at home? or
>>> I don't have a mobile device.
>>>
 b) that when you booked the venue, you were unable to ascertain whether
 there was a usable internet connection for connecting to a jitsi meeting? 
 or
>>> No idea.
>>>
 c) you won't be joining the jitsi meeting? or
>>> *I* can't join any online meeting because I don't have a mobile device.
>>>
 d) something else I have not been able to imagine?
>>> I am hoping others are also craving some in-person interaction and will
>>> join me at this venue.  I'll aim for 18:30.  If they happen to have a
>>> mobile device and can join the jitsi meeting, then we will join the rest
>>> online.
>>>
 Bottom line, should our assumption be that we cannot rely on your
 contributing to a jitsi discussion about CentOS?
>>> I will if someone else with a mobile device shows up and chooses to join
>>> the jitsi discussion.
>>>
>>> This follows the previous discussion ideas about alternating online and
>>> in-person meetings.  I can't imagine that I'm the only one in this
>>> position.  The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
>>> type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.
>>>
 Katie: Will you be joining the jitsi meeting to contribute your piece? This
 is so I know how much needs doing to prepare back up topics, JIC.

 Thanks

 Tug

>> …
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Re: [linux] I don't have a mobile device.

2022-11-06 Thread Rob Echlin
Rick,
Tax prep - web site.

Nov. 6, 2022 7:03:24 a.m. Rick Leir :

> RGB, team:
> 
> While on the topic of uncommon equipment choices, ...
> 
> I do have a mobile device. But I don't have a working machine with 
> Microsoft's OS on it.
> 
> What do you run your tax preparation app on? Ufile and such only work on 
> Microsoft's OS. Run it in a VM?
> 
> Run Ufile / TurboTax in Wine?
> 
> Do it on a paper form?
> 
> Or the worst choice: at a web site?
> 
> cheers -- Rick
> 
> On 2022-11-02 08:31, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
>> On 2022-11-02 06:35, Tug Williams wrote:
>>> On 01/11/2022 22:06, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
 On 2022-11-01 16:29, Tug Williams wrote:
> No-one has arranged a physical meeting, so the meeting will be on jitsi
> only.
 Ok, I'll propose to meet at the Royal Oak.  I'll suggest the
 Wellington/Hinton location because there seem to be more people in the
 west end.  (I can see a Royal Oak from my home office here, but I'm east
 of parliament...)
 
> That said, if anyone wishes to arrange a physical get together with 
> others,
> then they can do that, and join the rest of us on the jitsi meeting.
 I won't have any mobile device with me.
>>> RGB: Just to be unambiguous here. Are you saying
>>> a) you're leaving your phone at home? or
>> I don't have a mobile device.
>> 
>>> b) that when you booked the venue, you were unable to ascertain whether
>>> there was a usable internet connection for connecting to a jitsi meeting? or
>> No idea.
>> 
>>> c) you won't be joining the jitsi meeting? or
>> *I* can't join any online meeting because I don't have a mobile device.
>> 
>>> d) something else I have not been able to imagine?
>> I am hoping others are also craving some in-person interaction and will
>> join me at this venue.  I'll aim for 18:30.  If they happen to have a
>> mobile device and can join the jitsi meeting, then we will join the rest
>> online.
>> 
>>> Bottom line, should our assumption be that we cannot rely on your
>>> contributing to a jitsi discussion about CentOS?
>> I will if someone else with a mobile device shows up and chooses to join
>> the jitsi discussion.
>> 
>> This follows the previous discussion ideas about alternating online and
>> in-person meetings.  I can't imagine that I'm the only one in this
>> position.  The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
>> type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.
>> 
>>> Katie: Will you be joining the jitsi meeting to contribute your piece? This
>>> is so I know how much needs doing to prepare back up topics, JIC.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Tug
>>> 
> The link will follow, before Thursday's meeting.
> 
> Tug
> 
> On 01/11/2022 16:26, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
>> …
    slainte mhath, RGB
>>    slainte mhath, RGB
>> -- 
>> Richard Guy Briggs   --  ~\    -- ~\ 
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Re: [linux] Linux laptops are an out of the box phenomenon

2022-08-24 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi Katie,
For me, OSS means Open Source Software.

Rob

Aug. 23, 2022 8:12:24 p.m. Katherine Mcmillan :

> Hi Rob,
> 
> This is great brainstorming!
> 
> "Behind every non-Linux OS, there is a secret OSS lining.
> Has OSS taken over?" 
> 
> Is this question referring to OSes for all devices?
> 
> When you use "OSS", for clarity, are you referring to "Operating System 
> Scripting" or "Open Source Software"? I can read that acronym as either in 
> this context.
> 
> I really like the idea of exploring/sharing auditing tools!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Katie
> 
> *From:* r...@echlin.ca 
> *Sent:* 16 August 2022 20:56
> *To:* linux-Ottawa 
> *Subject:* [linux] Linux laptops are an out of the box phenomenon
>  
> *Attention : courriel externe | external email*
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Here are a few questions to consider.
> 
> And by consider, I mean, find more and better questions.
> 
> Answers can come as presentations at question-based meetings.
> 
> 
> Linux is all over the modern web. Containers, VMs, clouds, phones, TVs, all 
> the edge devices.
> What are the most important Linux things to learn to excel in the modern web?
> (Linus' phone number is not a correct answer)
> 
> Linux and Unix and BSD - haha.
> Behind every non-Linux OS, there is a secret OSS lining.
> Has OSS taken over?
> 
> All the insecure bits and bobs that are included in the Web of OSS languages 
> are exposing us to risk.
> Can we fix that? Can we analyze some types of error out of the code with 
> Static Analysis?
> I am loving ShellCheck.
> What OSS Static Analysis tools are helping you to code safer?
> 
> I am looking forward to your questions!
> 
> All my very best,
> Rob
> 
> 


Re: [linux] Upgrading Older Desktop to Linux Mint 20.3

2022-02-09 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi David,
Others know more than I, but now that the Linux bootloader is in use, you 
should be able to add the old installation.
First you need to check what software is controlling your bootup.
Google will help from there.

You want to add a new entry for the original disk, with the right partition 
info, plus paths to some bootup files and folders.

Rob
- Who hasn't done this for a few years.

Feb. 9, 2022 1:02:45 p.m. David Baril (dpba...@gmail.com) :

> On last week's Zoom call and in a subsequent post, I raised the question of 
> updating an old (2014) Dell XPS 8700 from Linux Mint 18.3 to the latest 
> version 20.3. I wanted to set up a dual boot environment with both versions 
> and was having difficulty figuring out how to do so with the Legacy (MBR) 
> BIOS.  With encouragement from Jean-François and John Nash, I decided to go 
> the route of setting up a new Mini-PC before blowing up my existing 
> environment. 
> 
> For just under $300 on Amazon.ca, I bought a little Kamrui Mini-PC with a 
> Celeron J4125 processor, 8GB of DDR4 RAM and a 256 GB M2 SSD - not quite as 
> minimalist as a Raspberry Pi, but still...  Again on the advice received in 
> the call and follow-up emails, I used the Windows disk manager to shrink the 
> size of the Windows partition and it was then a piece of cake to install 
> Linux in the remaining space.  The little machine has an expansion slot for 
> another SSD (a standard 2.5 in), so I can do that later if I want.  Now that 
> I had a fallback option, I took another run at the old Dell...
> 
> After a number of attempts to install Mint 20.3 on a secondary SSD on my old 
> desktop, I kept receiving an error message that it could not install the boot 
> loader on the new drive.  I finally decided to leave it to install the boot 
> loader on the original drive, thinking that I could set up dual booting 
> afterwards... Wrong!  The XPS 8700 machine now boots to the new drive in Mint 
> 20.3 but I cannot boot the old 18.3 environment, although all of the data is 
> still there on the old disk.  In any case, I have pretty much managed in a 
> couple of hours to restore my working environment (NAS mounts, applications 
> and utilities) on the new system although I still have a hankering to wipe 
> the system clean, update the BIOS to the latest version and convert the 
> machine to a pure UEFI boot mode.   Now that I've been through the exercise 
> once, I know that it is not such a huge problem to configure a new install.  
> I also have a full backup on my NAS if I need to go back and recover any more 
> config files for apps and utilities I have yet to reinstall...
> 
> Nonetheless, I am still curious to know if it's possible with the existing 
> situation to get the machine to dual boot both Mint 18.3 and 20.3.  Any 
> suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
>  
> [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7GnNmw13cJRYILBszPwpgk_-DPdr_s496S3ZuI_1-FtAj8lkZoSZ8-vc2w7EXA2Hxokh6ZebT39hrY59jOsmvUihzlaqK9zBBw4ir7zQVEJnl8MehxYG0JKwp6vwYle-wUWqDYg###58x55:false###]


Re: [linux] reMarkable 2 paper tablet

2021-06-05 Thread Rob Echlin
Dianne,
Thanks for clarifying.
I did not expect ARM devices as a set to need code changes to boot.

Google found what looks like their GitHub.

https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable

Rob

Jun. 5, 2021 10:05:30 Dianne Skoll :

> On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 13:49:13 + (UTC)
> Rob Echlin  wrote:
> 
>> - A note in the About linking to original sources is enough, if there
>> are no changes.
> 
> That's true.  However, the number of custom ARM-based devices with
> no changes to the bootloader (which is probably U-boot) is likely zero.
> I suspect there may be kernel changes too.
> 
>> - Drivers can be proprietary.
>> - Apps can be proprietary.
> 
> Yup.  The Linux kernel allows proprietary modules as an exception to the
> GPL, as long as they don't link to EXPORT_GPL_ONLY symbols.
> 
> However, if you sell a device with GPL'd software on it, you are
> required to provide sources to any GPL'd software present on the
> device.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dianne.
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Re: [linux] reMarkable 2 paper tablet

2021-06-05 Thread Rob Echlin
As I understand it,
- A note in the About linking to original sources is enough, if there are no 
changes.
- Drivers can be proprietary.
- Apps can be proprietary.

Does that cover all the cases that would have to be present, as opposed to 
corner cases that might not be in play?
Not sure I got all of that right.

And I would review the licenses and legal commentaries before developing 
devices.

Rob

Jun. 4, 2021 21:09:29 James :

> Any changes to any GPL software have to be provided in source?
> 
> Jun. 4, 2021 16:53:05 Michael P. Soulier :
> 
>> On 2021-06-04 2:52 p.m., James wrote:
>>> Doesn't their source have to be disclosed if it's added to linux?
>> 
>> Common misconception. You'd have to answer a lot of questions first, like 
>> what you mean by "adding to".
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: [linux] reMarkable 2 paper tablet

2021-06-04 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi Dianne,
IIRC, the Linux OS and libraries have never used a restrictive licence that 
stops you from using proprietary software with them.

Now if reMarkable were trying to claim the Linux OS is theirs, that's just a 
communication error between engineer and lawyer.

So I think I am misunderstanding something here.

Rob

Jun. 4, 2021 10:59:21 Dianne Skoll :

> This thread piqued my interest, but it seems to me they are
> violating the GPL.  
> https://support.remarkable.com/hc/en-us/articles/36282757-reMarkable-End-User-License-Agreement
> says:  "You are not entitled to modify or distribute the Software."
> which seems to be in clear violation.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dianne.
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Re: [linux] help with find

2020-12-28 Thread Rob Echlin
I think the newer versions of find have a "-rm" option.
This will work instead of the exec command.
Might work even with spaces.
Or you might need to use the parameter that separates file names with \0 
instead of spaces.

Rob

Dec. 28, 2020 19:40:22 James :

> I want to find all the empty .txt files under the current directories.
> I eventually want to delete them. :-)
> There are spaces in the directory names.
> 
> I tried:
> find . -name \*.txt -empty -exec "ls -l '{}'" \;
> but it gives "No such file or directory" errors (which I am guessing is from 
> the ls -l.
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[linux] Tig for Git?

2020-04-23 Thread Rob Echlin
HiAnybody here using "tig"? 
It's a text mode interface for git, that uses ncurses.Interested in finding out 
how well it works for you.
https://github.com/jonas/tig
Thanks,Rob

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Re: [linux] COBOL programmers wanted

2020-04-12 Thread Rob Echlin
I think the pay rate is at least $200 / hour too low.
Rob


On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 9:09:45 p.m. EDT, Peter Sjöberg 
 wrote:  
 
 On 2020-04-12 8:01 p.m., Mike Doyle [NEW EMAIL] wrote:
> I though there might be some interest in this.
> 
> https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/business/coronavirus-cobol-programmers-new-jersey-trnd/index.html
> 


Note the word "volunteers" = they want it for free.
It was a long discussion around it on the classic computer list. I
didn't read it all but it seems like the standard "if it ain't broken
don't fix it" - until it's broken and then you need it fixed yesterday
and for free since you never made a budget for to take care of it.

A bit like "why have a fire department if it's no fires".

/ps

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Re: [PosibleSPAM] [linux] seeking info

2020-02-08 Thread Rob Echlin
   On Saturday, February 8, 2020, 8:08:46 p.m. EST, Charles MacDonald 
 wrote:  
 
 On 2020-02-08 11:11 a.m., Callie Jones wrote:

> I have now run into a problem with my bank of all things - the online 
> banking is not working and the bank is blaming Firefox. They are looking 
> into fixing the problem at their end so it might not actually be a 
> Firefox issue. The bank does not know when the prob will be resolved. 
> This just started for me yesterday, although the bank started advising 
> clients about the Firefox issue several days ago.

FWIW, the bank I use, has started giving me what I guess is the same 
problem, and there note on their log in page would not even load!  (mine 
is up to 72.0.2)  They are blaming firefox also, and I guess that 
Firefox has dropped an older protocol.

still It would be a good idea to migrate to a supported version.

-- 
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cm...@zeusprune.ca              Just Beyond the Fringe
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someone breaks into their account.
No,  I don't have a link to any of the stories. I think one was on CBC.
Rob

  

Re: [linux] Is there an org in Ottawa packaging used computers for free?

2020-01-29 Thread Rob Echlin
   > On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 8:38:07 p.m. EST, Brett Delmage 
 wrote:  
 
 > On Thu, 30 Jan 2020, Rob Echlin wrote:

> > There used to be one or more groups recycling computers for people who 
> > otherwise could not afford one.
> > 
> > Is there still a group doing that?
> 
> Here is one I have donated gear to:
> 
> http://compucorps.org/donations/
> 
> CompuCorps is a high-tech charity that seeks to benefit Canadian society 
> by providing at risk groups (Aboriginal, youth,  seniors and those living 
> with disability) career and life skills training focused on access to 
> technology (computers) and the internet.
>
> The organization runs three programs including; TechYouth, TechReuse and 
> TechMentor. It was funded in 2000, has engaged over 250 IT volunteers, and 
> it has contributed to over 100 charity projects supported by a dedicated 
> team of members and volunteers. Located at 1040 Somerset St west,
>
> but...
>
> CompuCorps is also a registered Microsoft partner and refurbisher.
> 
> http://compucorps.org/techstore/
> "Win 7 OS for All"
> 
> ---
> 
> I wonder if OCLUG might be able to work with them to help connect
> them and the people they serve with Linux? I'd be willing to do something
> there.>
>
> Brett
Hi Brett,
I would not go in to try to replace Windows with Linux.
Perhaps we could talk to them about providing:
- web/cloud server management classes.- Raspberry Pi classes - in Python- 
Javascript classes for front and back end

Any other ideas?

Of course we need to have our ducks in a row - volunteers for such classes, and 
maybe some pre-written training material that we found on the interwebs.
Rob
  

[linux] Is there an org in Ottawa packaging used computers for free?

2020-01-29 Thread Rob Echlin
HiThere used to be one or more groups recycling computers for people who 
otherwise could not afford one.
Is there still a group doing that?
Thanks,Rob

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Re: [linux] looking to document a decent (fedora) linux development environment

2019-07-14 Thread Rob Echlin
A couple notes about the environment I work in, which your folk may want to 
take into account.I'm not a C dev, but a system dev.
Compiling using containers works fine - someone needs to figure it out and make 
it work, then you have a consistent environment for developer desktops that is 
identical to what your final build will be.
The developers grab their containers from your internal container repository, 
so when you update it, they all get the update on the next build.
First, you need more than gmake for builds.At least, anyone building everything 
in gmake is in for a lot of pain and no one will want to take it over.
Jenkins is fine for all that high level packaging for Windows, Mac, Unices, 
AWS, GCP, etc, pushing to internal repos, pushing to external repos like Nuget 
and Maven's public repos. 
Jenkins can also handle emails that say exactly what failed, and run Coverity 
and/or its free competitors on all the branches. 

We use scripts kicked off by Jenkins to create new branches (feature and 
release) plus jobs in Jenkins for the new branch to build on every commit, run 
Coverity at night, and run tests in different environments.
We are also Java SAAS shop, where we also do CI/CD using Jenkins.

However, I have been using GitLab for building a web site at home, and the 
tools look like they have strong functionality, very clean, but the CI/CD is 
more command-line oriented than Jenkins.By that I mean the build is in a 
wiki-like format that you can edit with VIM, whereas Jenkins stores that config 
stuff in XML.
It should be a fine environment for a C shop.Or for a SAAS shop.

All my very best,Rob

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On Sunday, July 14, 2019, 5:59:17 p.m. EDT, Rick Leir  
wrote:  
 
 I have experience with Fedora, Centos and a debian based distro ( Ubuntu!).

Fedora is bleeding edge. You will sometimes need to learn something new just to 
keep the machine usable. And you will be forced to upgrade regularly (is it a 
yearly thing?).

Centos has the same packages, but not bleeding edge and you are not forced to 
upgrade so often. It is your best choice for a server, but its desktop is not 
as good as Ubuntu. 

You said the devs are moving from Windows? I would be cheering, but maybe they 
do not want to change. The biggest issue might be as you say IDE or devops. 
Just allow them to install all the tools they want .. VScode, Notepad++, Atom, 
... It is hard to predict what they will want installed tomorrow or even ten 
minutes from now, the choices are very personal. That is fine, installing 
packages is easy on Centos and Ubuntu. Not always easy on Fedora because of 
package versions. Ping me directly if you want more on this.

You can document it today, and it will be different within days.
Cheers
Rick



On July 14, 2019 5:27:59 PM EDT, "Robert P. J. Day"  
wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2019, J C Nash wrote:


Is there a particular reason to specify fedora?


 the client wants to standardize on a distro that has solid
development infrastructure, i recommended fedora, and they were fine
with that. most packages will be available across the board, so
restricting it to fedora should not cause any major problems.

rday

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[linux] Linux in the wild?

2019-07-07 Thread Rob Echlin
HiIs there a plan for Linux in the Wild?
ThanksRob (and Charlotte)

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[linux] Horde!

2019-04-27 Thread Rob Echlin
HiHas anyone here had any experience with Horde?What use cases make sense for 
it?
Not planning to use it at this time, just bumped into it while searching for 
other stuff.

Anyone here have experience with non-MS mail servers and totally non-MS 
software in an office?Is it reasonable for a company that has sales people in 
it, and marketing types, all the usual staff?
Thanks!
Rob

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Re: [linux] Is there an OCLUG-related place where I can advertise local training?

2019-03-29 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi RobI would suggest speaking at local tech groups.Offer a 1 hour intro to 
Linux command line, or a 5 minute talk on something neat you can do with a 
command line tool, or a one-liner.

One of the largest tech meetups locally is the Python Author's Group.Talk to 
Ian Ward about it.
I would contact several groups to see if there is interest.Some might allow you 
to speak for 1 minute at the end of the meeting, the way the Python group let's 
people promote the jobs they have available.
Ciao!

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On Thursday, March 28, 2019, 2:58:58 p.m. EDT, Robert P. J. Day 
 wrote:  
 
 
  In the very near future, I want to start offering some of my regular
Linux and Linux-related courses locally, either single-client, on-site
courses, or general public courses, most likely at a shared co-working
space called CoWorkly (https://www.coworkly.ca/) on Montreal Rd.

  I don't want to use this list to spam members with constant
marketing about what is coming up, but if there was somewhere that one
could list Linux-related technical training (for anyone offering such
classes, not just me), that would be great.

  Lately, I've been doing a lot of Git training (both intro and
advanced), and I'm currently putting together some courseware on
container technology (podman, Buildah, skopeo, all that Docker-related
stuff) and should have an intro course in about a month. And, of
course, there's a pile of other basic Linux courses I can teach if the
demand is there.

  I like to think that the value of this to the local Linux community
is that there would be a local source of *affordable* training, where
local employers wouldn't have to send their folks out of town and pay
outrageous registration, so that's part of my sales pitch, as it were.

  In any event, I'm open to suggestions as to how to promote this idea
to people who'd be interested, without turning it into constant
marketing. Thoughts?

rday

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Fw: [linux] Running a bakery on Emacs and PostgreSQL

2019-03-07 Thread Rob Echlin
Thanks!I haven't tried org mode.Rob


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When the need to keep track of stock, ingredients and so on for a bakery
the first thing you think of is of course Emacs and postgresql right ?
Maybe not everyone but at least that's the path Piers took
https://bofh.org.uk/2019/02/25/baking-with-emacs/

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Re: [linux] ok, what is the most "newbie-friendly" version of linux these days?

2019-02-24 Thread Rob Echlin
The best distro for newbies is the one that comes with an expert to help them 
out.
So, give them one that is compatible with what you use.For instance,  If you 
use any kind of ubuntu, or Debian, give them a variant of Debian, not a variant 
of Red Hat.Mint would qualify.I provide Xubuntu for my family.

All my very best,Rob

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On Sunday, February 24, 2019, 10:34:44 a.m. EST, Robert P. J. Day 
 wrote:  
 
 
  it's a question for the ages ... i have the opportunity to migrate
someone from a dying windows pc to a spare laptop i have, and rather
than run around looking for windows installation media, she's willing
to at least entertain the notion of linux, as she needs little more
than surfing/email/MS office functionality.

  last time i thought about it, i would have recommended linux mint
... are there any other serious contenders at this point? i'm perusing
this article at the moment:

https://itsfoss.com/best-linux-beginners/

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Re: [linux] forwarding to a gmail account

2019-01-19 Thread Rob Echlin
I had an issue where my domain name provider did not maintain their machine's 
reverse DNS in a timely fashion.I am with a different provider now, who also 
provides web hosting.
Replies are sent to my email address at echlin.ca and bounce if the email 
server at the DNS provider does not have the correct reverse dns.
This was important despite the fact that all my email messages originate from 
yahoo.Not sure if this is relevant to your problem.
All my very best,Rob
On Saturday, January 19, 2019, 4:13:53 p.m. EST, Rick Leir 
 wrote:  
 
 Michael,
The reverse DNS is also mentioned in the Google help page. Your reverse DNS 
seems to be wrong.
HTH -- Rick

On January 19, 2019 1:02:39 PM EST, "Michael P. Soulier" 
 wrote:
So, I help our my sister's business by handling her domain. For some
time she has paid for a virtual server with westhost.com, and on it, I
have a simple forward rule in /etc/aliases for her business account to
her gmail account, as she requested.

trish: tsoul...@gmail.com
petservices: trish

So someone emailing petservi...@pawsitiveapproach.ca will result in a
forward to tsoul...@gmail.com. This has been working fine.

Suddenly it's not.

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
tsoul...@gmail.com
(reason: 550-5.7.1 This message does not have authentication
information or fails to pass)
(expanded from: trish)

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.:



DATA



<<< 550-5.7.1 This message does not have authentication information or
fails to pass
<<< 550-5.7.1 authentication checks. To best protect our users from
spam, the
<<< 550-5.7.1 message has been blocked. Please visit
<<< 550-5.7.1
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication for more
<<< 550 5.7.1 information. s3si2560808iom.144 - gsmtp
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable

I don't understand why google is asking for authentication for a simple
forward. We're not relaying, we're forwarding.

I'm in the middle of moving her nameservers to use my config at
digitalocean so I can better control her setup, but I've had the same
issue there with a simple mail forward so I'm asking.

If I use postfix' virtual hosting, then that works. But why would a
simple /etc/aliases forward be rejected?

Help appreciated. Google's explanation is not helpful, at least to me.

Mike

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[linux] Anyone else on Mastodon?

2019-01-19 Thread Rob Echlin
HiI just joined Mastodon:*  @AfterTheMoon@tabletop.social
Anyone else here on Mastodon?
All my very best,Rob
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Re: [linux] January Meeting: 2019-01-10 @ 18:30

2019-01-03 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi Qingwei,Here is the link.This is about malware - software that attacks your 
Linux system, not a flaw in the OpenSSL software.
So there is no vulnerability to look up.
Rob

https://www.zdnet.com/article/eset-discovers-21-new-linux-malware-families/ 



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On Thursday, January 3, 2019, 12:23, QINGWEI ZHANG  
wrote:


Hi Bob,
I would like to know more about the OpenSSL malware issue, but I did not find 
any server bug on the their official website. (Vulnerabilities 
https://www.openssl.org/news/vulnerabilities.html)
The latest Vulnerabilities is this:
CVE-2018-5407 (OpenSSL advisory) [Low severity] 02 November 2018: 
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2018-5407
If I miss something, could you please let me know? Thank you. Regards,Qingwei 
Zhang
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 7:22 PM Rob Echlin  wrote:

Hi Team Yow!Apparently there has been another malware discovered recently, 
possibly replacing libraries for OpenSSL, which affects Linux.
Maybe someone could talk about this, and Linux attacks in general. A bit out of 
my area.
All my very best,Rob
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On Monday, December 31, 2018, 11:50:58 p.m. EST, Scott Murphy 
 wrote:  
 
 The meeting will be the SECOND Thursday, as we couldn’t get the first Thursday.

Location: We will be in the Centennial Library, starting at 18:30. 

This is the same location as December 2018. Again, note the location, time, and 
date. We will be in this location for The first half of 2019. The Centennial 
Library is at 3870 Old Richmond Rd. in Bells Corners. Bus routes 88, 9, and 256 
are listed as servicing that area. Note that we will be done by 20:30, as this 
library closes earlier than the other location.

This month we are having a VoIP talk. 
- I haven’t talked about VoIP for a while, so it is probably due. 
- If anyone wants to contribute, feel free. 

- Since we have a somewhat shorter evening and we have to take a few minutes to 
setup and tear down the room, I don’t want to over commit on time. We will get 
a better handle as time goes on.

There will be a half hour pre-meeting item from 18:00 to 18:30 for people who 
are new to Linux, have general questions, or wish to help out with people who 
are just getting started.

After the meeting, there could be an optional social event at one of the nearby 
pubs or restaurants. A short discussion and vote as to location will be taken 
then.

After the talks, there will be the opportunity for a GPG key signing. This is a 
monthly offering, just look for Scott after the talk and we can go from there. 
Bring some kind of photo ID and some keyslips if you expect people to sign your 
key. If you need some method of creating pages of keyslips, there is an online 
slip generator available at http://openpgp.quelltextlich.at/slip.html

Note: New speakers welcome. If you have a topic or know someone who may have a 
good topic for a meeting, feel free to suggest it to the board.


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Re: [linux] January Meeting: 2019-01-10 @ 18:30

2019-01-01 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi Team Yow!Apparently there has been another malware discovered recently, 
possibly replacing libraries for OpenSSL, which affects Linux.
Maybe someone could talk about this, and Linux attacks in general. A bit out of 
my area.
All my very best,Rob
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On Monday, December 31, 2018, 11:50:58 p.m. EST, Scott Murphy 
 wrote:  
 
 The meeting will be the SECOND Thursday, as we couldn’t get the first Thursday.

Location: We will be in the Centennial Library, starting at 18:30. 

This is the same location as December 2018. Again, note the location, time, and 
date. We will be in this location for The first half of 2019. The Centennial 
Library is at 3870 Old Richmond Rd. in Bells Corners. Bus routes 88, 9, and 256 
are listed as servicing that area. Note that we will be done by 20:30, as this 
library closes earlier than the other location.

This month we are having a VoIP talk. 
- I haven’t talked about VoIP for a while, so it is probably due. 
- If anyone wants to contribute, feel free. 

- Since we have a somewhat shorter evening and we have to take a few minutes to 
setup and tear down the room, I don’t want to over commit on time. We will get 
a better handle as time goes on.

There will be a half hour pre-meeting item from 18:00 to 18:30 for people who 
are new to Linux, have general questions, or wish to help out with people who 
are just getting started.

After the meeting, there could be an optional social event at one of the nearby 
pubs or restaurants. A short discussion and vote as to location will be taken 
then.

After the talks, there will be the opportunity for a GPG key signing. This is a 
monthly offering, just look for Scott after the talk and we can go from there. 
Bring some kind of photo ID and some keyslips if you expect people to sign your 
key. If you need some method of creating pages of keyslips, there is an online 
slip generator available at http://openpgp.quelltextlich.at/slip.html

Note: New speakers welcome. If you have a topic or know someone who may have a 
good topic for a meeting, feel free to suggest it to the board.


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[linux] Camerata: better than meetups, and FLOSS

2018-06-29 Thread Rob Echlin
HiCamerata is a name for a group of people with shared goals, working together 
to help each other with a common goal, such as to improve something.They 
generally get together in real life, not just online.They may also help each 
other to get better at the skills needed for the thing they are working on 
together.
Like a meetup, but with more interaction.Like a hackathon, but with more 
interaction.
I think such a group could be supported by online software, and could be an 
online group, as well as IRL.
More about the camerata idea, in an article on Medium called The origins of 
Opera and the Future of Programming.
For each group in the system, there would be one or more sets of related 
articles, possibly called a book.Each article would have one author, with the 
ability to allow one other person at a time to edit it instead of them.Articles 
would be private or public.There would be discussion streams for each article, 
for each book, for the group as a whole.I would expect date and conversation 
access, like a mail list archive, as well as the long stream.
Each group would have 0 or more offline meetup groups, with scheduled meetings 
and locations, descriptions of the event - speakers, topics.
OK, there's more.There would not be one site, but loads, like Mastadon.Each 
site would have a streaming list of recent articles, tailored to the logged-in 
viewer like Medium. In other words, based on your preferences and history of 
what you veiwed, groups you subscribed to.You can subscrbe to groups as a 
reader, separately from joining as a member/author.
There would be a stream of articles from other sites.You would click on that 
link in the summary in the stream, and read the article on it's home site, 
probably.You can comment on articles, comments are threaded so you can have 
conversations.Comments on one article are one of the discussion streams for 
that article.
Each group would have a stream of it's own articles.Each group would also have 
a list of the bookshelves.Each book would have an heirarchical toc, like a book 
or magazine.Maybe there could be a mindmap view?You can view/read the book as a 
whole, with ability to jump around in it to other articles.
I think I have too many features in this software already. 
There could be presentations in the book as well.
WYSIWYG editor, plus ReST source editor.
I will post more details in a GitLab repo later this weekend.
Any comments?
Know of any open source software that is close to (parts of) this, that I could 
fork, or just learn from?
All my very best,Rob
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[linux] Email

2018-06-13 Thread Rob Echlin
HiI have been looking briefly at email vendors from Switzerland.
So far, the clearest story I have found is:- 
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/switzerland-wont-save-you-either-why-e-mail-might-still-be-safer-in-us/
Prices:- Euros 48/year - https://protonmail.com/signup- CAN 12/month paid 
annually - https://protonmail.com/signup - includes Kolab Groupware- ??
Basically, nothing at $27/year.
All my very best,Rob
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