Re: [linux] Is list down?

2023-07-08 Thread rob



Hi Katie,

Lucky you!
I still haven't received any emails about lost emails.

Before the last lost email thread, the mostest recentest email from this 
list appears to be this one:


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Re: [linux] Open Source Software for Research and Fleet Management
Contact photo
FromTimothy Forbes
ToKatherine Mcmillan
CcLinux-Ottawa
Date2023-06-14 15:33
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Sorry I missed the last meeting.
Is there gonna be another last meeting?

-- end of all Dad jokes -

JN. Def a question.

RB - You are right. 0ntime, or online, or in a labour room, it's the 
delivery that matters.


JC, thanks for the Spamhaus info.

James, would you be more or less resentful if it was HTML text?

-- end of GrandDad jokes -

courriel extreme | extremely email

Love,
Rob

On 2023-07-08 10:02, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:


Received!

-Katie
-

From: James 
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 9:48:33 AM
To: Katherine Mcmillan 
Cc: BCLUG ; Linux-Ottawa 
Subject: Re: [linux] Is list down?

Attention : courriel externe | external email

Jul. 8, 2023 05:35:16 Katherine Mcmillan :


Hello both,

I received the messages from Dr. Nash and RB.

-Katie

*From:* BCLUG 
*Sent:* 08 July 2023 05:24
*To:* Linux-Ottawa 
*Subject:* Re: [linux] Is list down?

Attention : courriel externe | external email

J C Nash wrote on 2023-07-04 18:00:


That's the question.


I got the message.


I noticed last week that my mailing list stopped being delivered to
Gmail (and the week before, Outlook) addresses.


Nothing's changed on my end (that I'm aware of).


I'm seriously questioning if I even want to deal with email servers
anymore.


Who knows if this will get delivered.

rb


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Me too (resent as plaintext).

Re: [linux] Getting list of manually-installed packages (was Re: Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository)

2023-03-05 Thread rob

Hi Diane,
Thanks, I never heard of apt-mark.
Rob


On 2023-03-05 17:42, Dianne Skoll wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 14:21:08 -0500
r...@echlin.ca wrote:


Gotta map out the apps I installed, different for each machine.
Not all the apps, libs, drivers, and apps-required-by-this-app, just
the apps I manually installed.
Are there any tools for that?


On Debian (and probably Ubuntu):  apt-mark showmanual
should give you that list.

Regards,

Dianne.

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Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread rob



Hi Alan,

I read from the docs that "Landscape" is a competitor for Puppet or 
Ansible.
You can manage your deployment of multiple servers in groups, and keep 
their systems identical.


Just to clarify:

What I would like to do on each of my family's "3" Ubuntu boxes that are 
"All Different".


* Script or command to read the list of apps installed:

  * ignores all those installed as requirements

  * Ignores all those automatically installed

  * I think that the apt system tracks that info?

* I can read and edit the list

* I can copy that list to various backup locations, like the other 
Ubuntu boxes, or email or whatever.


* I think I can create a script to re-install from the list

Rob

I like this quote:
"You should sit in nature for 20 minutes a day
Unless you are busy - then you should sit for an hour"
 - Zen Proverb

On 2023-03-05 17:26, Alan McKay wrote:

Yes there are tools for that it is called landscape from canonical and 
it is one of the strong reasons to use Ubuntu in spite of whatever you 
think the privacy reasons might be


Those five free licenses you've been talking about are five free 
licenses for landscape


With landscape you can completely manage all of those endpoints 
including what apps are installed security and so on and so forth from 
one Central point


--
"You should sit in nature for 20 minutes a day
Unless you are busy - then you should sit for an hour"
- Zen Proverb

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread rob

I detect a consensus: I thought I posted this on the OCLUG list?

Thanks for all the support for Debian.

Now to choose a time to wedge this huge unsafe change into my schedule.
Separately for each machine (3, I think).

Gotta map out the apps I installed, different for each machine.
Not all the apps, libs, drivers, and apps-required-by-this-app, just the 
apps I manually installed.

Are there any tools for that?


Rob

On 2023-03-05 13:00, Dianne Skoll wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 11:37:19 -0500
r...@echlin.ca wrote:


Looks like its Debian Time. (Any time is Debian Time.)
What are your takes on this?


I've never understood the appeal of Ubuntu.  It's really no better than
Debian and Canonical is a really crappy company with a toxic CEO and a
dreadful work environment (check Glassdoor reviews...)

Debian all the way for me.

Regards,

Dianne.

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[linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread rob



Hi

this message is part of my apt upgrade response:

Get more security updates through Ubuntu Pro with 'esm-apps' enabled:
  imagemagick libopenexr25 libmagickcore-6.q16-6-extra 
libmagickwand-6.q16-6

  imagemagick-6.q16 libeditorconfig0 libmagickcore-6.q16-6
  imagemagick-6-common
Learn more about Ubuntu Pro at https://ubuntu.com/pro

The offer is to get a membership in Ubuntu Pro, which allows updates to 
5 computers for "free", but I give away more info about myself.


Looks like its Debian Time. (Any time is Debian Time.)

What are your takes on this?

Thanks,
Rob

Re: [linux] I don't have a mobile device.

2022-11-06 Thread Rob Echlin


Nov. 6, 2022 8:16:07 a.m. Richard Guy Briggs :

> On 2022-11-06 07:03, Rick Leir wrote:
>> RGB, team:
>>
>> While on the topic of uncommon equipment choices, ...
>>
>> I do have a mobile device. But I don't have a working machine with
>> Microsoft's OS on it.
>>
>> What do you run your tax preparation app on? Ufile and such only work on
>> Microsoft's OS. Run it in a VM?
>>
>> Run Ufile / TurboTax in Wine?
>>
>> Do it on a paper form?
>>
>> Or the worst choice: at a web site?
>
> ufile.ca web site, but it hasn't been working lately for recent years,
> dunno if it is a browser issue.  It was working until about a year ago,
> but then it stopped working on the last 5 or so.

I use simpletax, which is now part of wealthsimple.

Rob

>
>> cheers -- Rick
>>
>> On 2022-11-02 08:31, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
>>> On 2022-11-02 06:35, Tug Williams wrote:
>>>> On 01/11/2022 22:06, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
>>>>> On 2022-11-01 16:29, Tug Williams wrote:
>>>>>> …
>>>>> Ok, I'll propose to meet at the Royal Oak.  I'll suggest the
>>>>> Wellington/Hinton location because there seem to be more people in the
>>>>> west end.  (I can see a Royal Oak from my home office here, but I'm east
>>>>> of parliament...)
>>>>>
>>>>>> …
>>>>> I won't have any mobile device with me.
>>>> RGB: Just to be unambiguous here. Are you saying
>>>> a) you're leaving your phone at home? or
>>> I don't have a mobile device.
>>>
>>>> b) that when you booked the venue, you were unable to ascertain whether
>>>> there was a usable internet connection for connecting to a jitsi meeting? 
>>>> or
>>> No idea.
>>>
>>>> c) you won't be joining the jitsi meeting? or
>>> *I* can't join any online meeting because I don't have a mobile device.
>>>
>>>> d) something else I have not been able to imagine?
>>> I am hoping others are also craving some in-person interaction and will
>>> join me at this venue.  I'll aim for 18:30.  If they happen to have a
>>> mobile device and can join the jitsi meeting, then we will join the rest
>>> online.
>>>
>>>> Bottom line, should our assumption be that we cannot rely on your
>>>> contributing to a jitsi discussion about CentOS?
>>> I will if someone else with a mobile device shows up and chooses to join
>>> the jitsi discussion.
>>>
>>> This follows the previous discussion ideas about alternating online and
>>> in-person meetings.  I can't imagine that I'm the only one in this
>>> position.  The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
>>> type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.
>>>
>>>> Katie: Will you be joining the jitsi meeting to contribute your piece? This
>>>> is so I know how much needs doing to prepare back up topics, JIC.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Tug
>>>>
>>>>>> …
>>>>>   slainte mhath, RGB
>>>   slainte mhath, RGB
>>> --
>>> Richard Guy Briggs   --  ~\    -- ~\ 
>>> 
>>>  --  \___   o \@  @    Ride yer 
>>> bike!
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Re: [linux] I don't have a mobile device.

2022-11-06 Thread Rob Echlin
Rick,
Tax prep - web site.

Nov. 6, 2022 7:03:24 a.m. Rick Leir :

> RGB, team:
> 
> While on the topic of uncommon equipment choices, ...
> 
> I do have a mobile device. But I don't have a working machine with 
> Microsoft's OS on it.
> 
> What do you run your tax preparation app on? Ufile and such only work on 
> Microsoft's OS. Run it in a VM?
> 
> Run Ufile / TurboTax in Wine?
> 
> Do it on a paper form?
> 
> Or the worst choice: at a web site?
> 
> cheers -- Rick
> 
> On 2022-11-02 08:31, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
>> On 2022-11-02 06:35, Tug Williams wrote:
>>> On 01/11/2022 22:06, Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
 On 2022-11-01 16:29, Tug Williams wrote:
> No-one has arranged a physical meeting, so the meeting will be on jitsi
> only.
 Ok, I'll propose to meet at the Royal Oak.  I'll suggest the
 Wellington/Hinton location because there seem to be more people in the
 west end.  (I can see a Royal Oak from my home office here, but I'm east
 of parliament...)
 
> That said, if anyone wishes to arrange a physical get together with 
> others,
> then they can do that, and join the rest of us on the jitsi meeting.
 I won't have any mobile device with me.
>>> RGB: Just to be unambiguous here. Are you saying
>>> a) you're leaving your phone at home? or
>> I don't have a mobile device.
>> 
>>> b) that when you booked the venue, you were unable to ascertain whether
>>> there was a usable internet connection for connecting to a jitsi meeting? or
>> No idea.
>> 
>>> c) you won't be joining the jitsi meeting? or
>> *I* can't join any online meeting because I don't have a mobile device.
>> 
>>> d) something else I have not been able to imagine?
>> I am hoping others are also craving some in-person interaction and will
>> join me at this venue.  I'll aim for 18:30.  If they happen to have a
>> mobile device and can join the jitsi meeting, then we will join the rest
>> online.
>> 
>>> Bottom line, should our assumption be that we cannot rely on your
>>> contributing to a jitsi discussion about CentOS?
>> I will if someone else with a mobile device shows up and chooses to join
>> the jitsi discussion.
>> 
>> This follows the previous discussion ideas about alternating online and
>> in-person meetings.  I can't imagine that I'm the only one in this
>> position.  The dynamics are different in person, and I am seeking that
>> type of interaction because we haven't had that for 2.5 years.
>> 
>>> Katie: Will you be joining the jitsi meeting to contribute your piece? This
>>> is so I know how much needs doing to prepare back up topics, JIC.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Tug
>>> 
> The link will follow, before Thursday's meeting.
> 
> Tug
> 
> On 01/11/2022 16:26, Dmitriy Korovkin wrote:
>> …
    slainte mhath, RGB
>>    slainte mhath, RGB
>> -- 
>> Richard Guy Briggs   --  ~\    -- ~\ 
>> 
>>  --  \___   o \@  @    Ride yer 
>> bike!
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>> Vote! -- 
>> _GTVS6#790__(*)__(*)(*)(*)_
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Re: [linux] Linux laptops are an out of the box phenomenon

2022-08-24 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi Katie,
For me, OSS means Open Source Software.

Rob

Aug. 23, 2022 8:12:24 p.m. Katherine Mcmillan :

> Hi Rob,
> 
> This is great brainstorming!
> 
> "Behind every non-Linux OS, there is a secret OSS lining.
> Has OSS taken over?" 
> 
> Is this question referring to OSes for all devices?
> 
> When you use "OSS", for clarity, are you referring to "Operating System 
> Scripting" or "Open Source Software"? I can read that acronym as either in 
> this context.
> 
> I really like the idea of exploring/sharing auditing tools!
> 
> Sincerely,
> Katie
> 
> *From:* r...@echlin.ca 
> *Sent:* 16 August 2022 20:56
> *To:* linux-Ottawa 
> *Subject:* [linux] Linux laptops are an out of the box phenomenon
>  
> *Attention : courriel externe | external email*
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Here are a few questions to consider.
> 
> And by consider, I mean, find more and better questions.
> 
> Answers can come as presentations at question-based meetings.
> 
> 
> Linux is all over the modern web. Containers, VMs, clouds, phones, TVs, all 
> the edge devices.
> What are the most important Linux things to learn to excel in the modern web?
> (Linus' phone number is not a correct answer)
> 
> Linux and Unix and BSD - haha.
> Behind every non-Linux OS, there is a secret OSS lining.
> Has OSS taken over?
> 
> All the insecure bits and bobs that are included in the Web of OSS languages 
> are exposing us to risk.
> Can we fix that? Can we analyze some types of error out of the code with 
> Static Analysis?
> I am loving ShellCheck.
> What OSS Static Analysis tools are helping you to code safer?
> 
> I am looking forward to your questions!
> 
> All my very best,
> Rob
> 
> 


[linux] Linux laptops are an out of the box phenomenon

2022-08-16 Thread rob



Hi all,

Here are a few questions to consider.

And by consider, I mean, find more and better questions.

Answers can come as presentations at question-based meetings.

Linux is all over the modern web. Containers, VMs, clouds, phones, TVs, 
all the edge devices.
What are the most important Linux things to learn to excel in the modern 
web?

(Linus' phone number is not a correct answer)

Linux and Unix and BSD - haha.
Behind every non-Linux OS, there is a secret OSS lining.
Has OSS taken over?

All the insecure bits and bobs that are included in the Web of OSS 
languages are exposing us to risk.
Can we fix that? Can we analyze some types of error out of the code with 
Static Analysis?

I am loving ShellCheck.
What OSS Static Analysis tools are helping you to code safer?

I am looking forward to your questions!

All my very best,
Rob

Re: [linux] Survey: Will you attend the next Ottawa Linux User Group meeting in person? (September 1, 2022)

2022-08-16 Thread rob



Hi Katherine,

Thanks for your awesome response.

I have to apologize for saying "Maybe". That's the date one of my nieces 
is getting married, in Deep River, a couple hundred klicks away.
So my response is a definite "no" and it's nothing to do with the venue 
and stuff.


Yeah, if you are asking for students to join us, food is a great idea! I 
think we had students the last time we were at U of O, but not many - 
and no food. We may have had more students at Algonquin. not sure.


I do want to encourage you to go beyond the box we boxed our Linux boxes 
into, so to speak, so kudos on that angle.


All my very best,

Rob

On 2022-08-16 10:14, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:


Hi Rob,

That's completely fair.  Considering the main purpose of this survey is 
to provide a headcount to the Professional Development Club, having a 
"maybe" as an answer choice for "attending?" doesn't make sense.  
However, your concerns are absolutely reasonable, and ultimately we do 
have to watch and wait.  We are working with the University to 
understand their policies and recommendations.  Masking seems like a 
good idea, no matter what.


I don't have additional information about the room at this time - but 
it will likely be indoors (in one of the lecture halls, for example).  
As we do not have a huge club there should be room for social 
distancing.  However, if we find that 80 people wish to attend in 
person, then we'll need a much bigger room (ex. the big presentation 
room/hall at Telfer).  I don't hate the idea of holding it outside, but 
I'm not sure where or how (but my wheels are spinning on that).


Why would we have food? Great question! At other events where student 
participation has been encouraged/sought, providing food was an 
additional helpful driver.  Also, why not? If the meeting is at 7pm, we 
do it safely (ex. pre-wrapped sandwhiches), and the Professional 
Development Club is willing to help, and gets additional event 
management experience?  In my experience, you do get more (sometimes 
25%) attendance at in-person mealtime events if you provide food.


The Professional Development Club is great! I don't think they've been 
renamed from another club.  They're multidisciplinary, which is awesome 
:)


Hope this helps,
Katie

-

From: r...@echlin.ca 
Sent: 16 August 2022 06:41
To: Katherine Mcmillan ; linux@linux-ottawa.org 

Subject: Re: [linux] Survey: Will you attend the next Ottawa Linux User 
Group meeting in person? (September 1, 2022)


Attention : courriel externe | external email

Hi Katherine,

Q1, am I going in person?
answer is "maybe" - I don't have enough info yet.
This wave is decreasing, but a few days ago was still higher than all 
but two of the waves so far.

(Going by wastewater testing in Ottawa.)

How well ventilated is this space?
Is there room for social distancing?

Why would you have food at an OCLUG meeting?
I think I am missing a whole tonne of context.

Is the Pro Dev Club a rename of something I have actually heard of, and 
been at?


Thanks!

Rob

On 2022-08-15 21:00, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:


Hello all,

I'm wondering if everyone can please take a couple minutes and 
complete the following survey about attendance at the next Ottawa 
Linux User Group meeting (September 1st at 7pm):

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/9GY3SPF

FYI:  As it looks right now, we will be strongly recommending 
mask-wearing (except while eating).  We are working with the 
Professional Development Club at the University of Ottawa to plan, and 
are open to comments, questions, and suggestions.


Sincerely, Katie

Re: [linux] Survey: Will you attend the next Ottawa Linux User Group meeting in person? (September 1, 2022)

2022-08-16 Thread rob



Hi Katherine,

Q1, am I going in person?
answer is "maybe" - I don't have enough info yet.
This wave is decreasing, but a few days ago was still higher than all 
but two of the waves so far.

(Going by wastewater testing in Ottawa.)

How well ventilated is this space?
Is there room for social distancing?

Why would you have food at an OCLUG meeting?
I think I am missing a whole tonne of context.

Is the Pro Dev Club a rename of something I have actually heard of, and 
been at?


Thanks!

Rob

On 2022-08-15 21:00, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:


Hello all,

I'm wondering if everyone can please take a couple minutes and complete 
the following survey about attendance at the next Ottawa Linux User 
Group meeting (September 1st at 7pm):

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/9GY3SPF

FYI:  As it looks right now, we will be strongly recommending 
mask-wearing (except while eating).  We are working with the 
Professional Development Club at the University of Ottawa to plan, and 
are open to comments, questions, and suggestions.


Sincerely, Katie

Re: [linux] open source chat

2022-04-27 Thread rob



Hi Katherine with a K!

Do you know of any speech to text apps that would work outdoors?
For recording minutes.

Must be able to handle techno - the language, not the music.
Handling French mixed into English would be très bien.

Rob

On 2022-04-27 14:19, Katherine Mcmillan wrote:


Hello all,

I would like to help :)

Gitter - I agree with Rick, this could be a good open source option for 
chat/instant messaging. I'm happy to help in any way that I can to get 
this up-and-running for the group.


IRC - I have had a negative experience with IRC, but specifically with 
the FreeNode network 
(https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/19/freenode_staff_resigns/).  I 
would recommend leveraging Libera or Efnet networks.  I may also have a 
VM that could be used to setup our own network - however, it is running 
OpenBSD, not a Linux distro   I have had success with multiple 
clients, but do find the best are HexChat (Windows + Unix-like), XChat 
(Linux distros), or Nettalk (Windows).  IRC is really ONLY good for 
text chat.


NextCloud - In my experience it has been fantastic for document 
storage, collaboration, chat, project management, and video calls. I do 
recommend setting up a TURN server at the start 
(https://help.nextcloud.com/t/howto-setup-nextcloud-talk-with-turn-server/30794). 
 Please let me know if I can help in any way.


Jitsi - I think this group has a good handle on the pros/cons.  Please 
let me know if I can help to leverage Jitsi.


BigBlueButton - Fantastically underrated for video calls and chat. Can 
be setup on a private server, but it isn't necessary, the free platform 
supported by Greenlight works great! I highly recommend at least trying 
it out, and would be happy to setup a test run for the group if anyone 
is interested.  BigBlueButton also has an interesting history in Canada 
 (https://bigbluebutton.org/open-source-project/about/).  I may have 
some special experience to bring 
(https://freebsdfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ConferenceReports.pdf).


Finally, I agree with what others have recommended: attempting an 
in-person meeting!  I would love to get to know everyone in-person.


Sincerely,
Katie

-

From: Rick Leir 
Sent: 27 April 2022 13:04
To: linux@linux-ottawa.org 
Subject: Re: [linux] open source chat

Attention : courriel externe | external email
Maybe you talked of this already: there is gitter.im which is an open 
source instant messaging and chat room for users of gitlab. I have not 
used it.


As someone else said, chat and messaging are poor tools for annual 
meetings. We would do better to meet outdoors and take a chance with 
the weather. I have an umbrella but will probably not need to use it.

Cheers -- Rick

Re: [linux] Upgrading Older Desktop to Linux Mint 20.3

2022-02-09 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi David,
Others know more than I, but now that the Linux bootloader is in use, you 
should be able to add the old installation.
First you need to check what software is controlling your bootup.
Google will help from there.

You want to add a new entry for the original disk, with the right partition 
info, plus paths to some bootup files and folders.

Rob
- Who hasn't done this for a few years.

Feb. 9, 2022 1:02:45 p.m. David Baril (dpba...@gmail.com) :

> On last week's Zoom call and in a subsequent post, I raised the question of 
> updating an old (2014) Dell XPS 8700 from Linux Mint 18.3 to the latest 
> version 20.3. I wanted to set up a dual boot environment with both versions 
> and was having difficulty figuring out how to do so with the Legacy (MBR) 
> BIOS.  With encouragement from Jean-François and John Nash, I decided to go 
> the route of setting up a new Mini-PC before blowing up my existing 
> environment. 
> 
> For just under $300 on Amazon.ca, I bought a little Kamrui Mini-PC with a 
> Celeron J4125 processor, 8GB of DDR4 RAM and a 256 GB M2 SSD - not quite as 
> minimalist as a Raspberry Pi, but still...  Again on the advice received in 
> the call and follow-up emails, I used the Windows disk manager to shrink the 
> size of the Windows partition and it was then a piece of cake to install 
> Linux in the remaining space.  The little machine has an expansion slot for 
> another SSD (a standard 2.5 in), so I can do that later if I want.  Now that 
> I had a fallback option, I took another run at the old Dell...
> 
> After a number of attempts to install Mint 20.3 on a secondary SSD on my old 
> desktop, I kept receiving an error message that it could not install the boot 
> loader on the new drive.  I finally decided to leave it to install the boot 
> loader on the original drive, thinking that I could set up dual booting 
> afterwards... Wrong!  The XPS 8700 machine now boots to the new drive in Mint 
> 20.3 but I cannot boot the old 18.3 environment, although all of the data is 
> still there on the old disk.  In any case, I have pretty much managed in a 
> couple of hours to restore my working environment (NAS mounts, applications 
> and utilities) on the new system although I still have a hankering to wipe 
> the system clean, update the BIOS to the latest version and convert the 
> machine to a pure UEFI boot mode.   Now that I've been through the exercise 
> once, I know that it is not such a huge problem to configure a new install.  
> I also have a full backup on my NAS if I need to go back and recover any more 
> config files for apps and utilities I have yet to reinstall...
> 
> Nonetheless, I am still curious to know if it's possible with the existing 
> situation to get the machine to dual boot both Mint 18.3 and 20.3.  Any 
> suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
>  
> [https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7GnNmw13cJRYILBszPwpgk_-DPdr_s496S3ZuI_1-FtAj8lkZoSZ8-vc2w7EXA2Hxokh6ZebT39hrY59jOsmvUihzlaqK9zBBw4ir7zQVEJnl8MehxYG0JKwp6vwYle-wUWqDYg###58x55:false###]


Re: [linux] Employment lawyer recommendation

2022-02-03 Thread rob



Hi,

I found Marion Jackson in Stittsville, but she doesn't do much in this 
area.


Per her suggestion, I will contact Employment Standards for one of my 
questions.
(Can a company require you to take a "pre-employment screening" drug 
test in Ontario?)


Rob

On 2022-02-03 15:09, r...@echlin.ca wrote:


Hi

Any good employment lawyers that you guys know about?

I want advice on employment contract stuff.

Thanks,

Rob

[linux] Employment lawyer recommendation

2022-02-03 Thread rob



Hi

Any good employment lawyers that you guys know about?

I want advice on employment contract stuff.

Thanks,

Rob

Re: [linux] Remote employer in the US

2022-01-06 Thread rob



Hi Nick,

Thanks for your detailed message. It's helpful and appreciated.

Rob

On 2022-01-05 14:13, Nicholas Savage wrote:


Hi Rob,

I can help answer this from two perspectives: I work for a British 
company without a Canadian office, and I'm also a CPA (accountant), 
although I'm not a tax expert.


I'm a contractor with the company I work for, and my contract directly 
states that. It also says that I'm responsible for any taxes. I invoice 
them on a monthly basis and I get paid by wire transfer. I'm 
incorporated though, so the contract is between my corporation (who I 
am sole shareholder) and the company, but same idea. Benefit of being a 
contractor is that you get to deduct business expenses. Downside is 
there essentially are no labour standards other than your contract. In 
theory you could sue them, but you'd probably need to sue them in an 
American court. Make sure to invoice them frequently if you go down 
this road so you don't lose too much if they stop paying you! My 
contract lays out notice periods and everything though, for both me 
quitting or them wanting to fire me.


I'm assuming you're interested in working for a specific company in the 
US. I'm also assuming that you will be working remotely from Canada for 
them. Do they deal with contractors a lot? They shouldn't be paying 
payroll taxes in that case, and if they would be you have no way of 
claiming those as tax paid on your behalf. If they have no Canadian 
presence, you shouldn't need to charge HST either. I'm not familiar 
with American income tax rules though so I can't say if you would need 
to file a US tax return but I highly doubt it. I don't need to file a 
UK return for instance since I'm technically exporting services from 
Canada that are being consumed there.


The CRA however does determine that some people, despite what the 
contract might say, are actually employees rather than contractors 
based on the substance of the contract. There's a few factors that go 
into it, but the risk mostly is on the company rather than you I 
believe. If they aren't hiring a ton of Canadians, it's probably 
unlikely that they'll ever notice the relationship you have with them 
though so maybe it's not worth worrying about now.


It's definitely been a good experience for me working remotely. I could 
never have found a cool position like the one I have in Canada, but 
there's definitely more risk involved. If you're going down this road, 
if you don't already have an accountant you might want to get one to 
handle the complexities of the taxes. I can recommend the firm I used 
to work for (who I no longer get referral bonuses from!) I'm also happy 
to answer any specific questions as well if you wanted to email me 
directly.


Thanks,
Nick

On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, at 11:31, r...@echlin.ca wrote:


Hi

I know some of you work for employers outside of Canada, but they may 
have Canadian divisions.


How are payroll and other labour standards handled, if they don't have 
a Canadian office?


Do they just send you the full  pay and you have to pay the payroll 
taxes as a non-incorporated contractor?


Do they just pay payroll taxes to California and USA, and you have to 
file that info with CRA?


Or are all of the above possible, plus more?

Thanks,
Rob

[linux] Remote employer in the US

2022-01-05 Thread rob



Hi

I know some of you work for employers outside of Canada, but they may 
have Canadian divisions.


How are payroll and other labour standards handled, if they don't have a 
Canadian office?


Do they just send you the full  pay and you have to pay the payroll 
taxes as a non-incorporated contractor?


Do they just pay payroll taxes to California and USA, and you have to 
file that info with CRA?


Or are all of the above possible, plus more?

Thanks,
Rob

Re: [linux] reMarkable 2 paper tablet

2021-06-05 Thread Rob Echlin
Dianne,
Thanks for clarifying.
I did not expect ARM devices as a set to need code changes to boot.

Google found what looks like their GitHub.

https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable

Rob

Jun. 5, 2021 10:05:30 Dianne Skoll :

> On Sat, 5 Jun 2021 13:49:13 + (UTC)
> Rob Echlin  wrote:
> 
>> - A note in the About linking to original sources is enough, if there
>> are no changes.
> 
> That's true.  However, the number of custom ARM-based devices with
> no changes to the bootloader (which is probably U-boot) is likely zero.
> I suspect there may be kernel changes too.
> 
>> - Drivers can be proprietary.
>> - Apps can be proprietary.
> 
> Yup.  The Linux kernel allows proprietary modules as an exception to the
> GPL, as long as they don't link to EXPORT_GPL_ONLY symbols.
> 
> However, if you sell a device with GPL'd software on it, you are
> required to provide sources to any GPL'd software present on the
> device.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dianne.
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Re: [linux] reMarkable 2 paper tablet

2021-06-05 Thread Rob Echlin
As I understand it,
- A note in the About linking to original sources is enough, if there are no 
changes.
- Drivers can be proprietary.
- Apps can be proprietary.

Does that cover all the cases that would have to be present, as opposed to 
corner cases that might not be in play?
Not sure I got all of that right.

And I would review the licenses and legal commentaries before developing 
devices.

Rob

Jun. 4, 2021 21:09:29 James :

> Any changes to any GPL software have to be provided in source?
> 
> Jun. 4, 2021 16:53:05 Michael P. Soulier :
> 
>> On 2021-06-04 2:52 p.m., James wrote:
>>> Doesn't their source have to be disclosed if it's added to linux?
>> 
>> Common misconception. You'd have to answer a lot of questions first, like 
>> what you mean by "adding to".
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: [linux] reMarkable 2 paper tablet

2021-06-04 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi Dianne,
IIRC, the Linux OS and libraries have never used a restrictive licence that 
stops you from using proprietary software with them.

Now if reMarkable were trying to claim the Linux OS is theirs, that's just a 
communication error between engineer and lawyer.

So I think I am misunderstanding something here.

Rob

Jun. 4, 2021 10:59:21 Dianne Skoll :

> This thread piqued my interest, but it seems to me they are
> violating the GPL.  
> https://support.remarkable.com/hc/en-us/articles/36282757-reMarkable-End-User-License-Agreement
> says:  "You are not entitled to modify or distribute the Software."
> which seems to be in clear violation.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dianne.
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Re: [linux] reMarkable 2 paper tablet

2021-06-03 Thread rob

It says: "Windows 7 and newer".
Any Linux that is newer than Windows 7 counts as a reMarkable upgrade!

Rob


On 2021-06-03 20:00, James wrote:
Note and file syncing between reMarkable tablet and reMarkable apps 
for MacOS, Windows 7 and newer, iOS, and Android


Linux too?


Jun. 3, 2021 19:49:20 jean-Francois Messier :

I am currently shopping for one of those tablets where you write on 
the

tablet and the writing is recorded on the device, sync'ed with your
system or storage. The reMarkable 2 seemed to have been one of the
favorite so far, and I also found out that it is actually running 
Linux,

not simply a flavor of Android.

Did anyone else have experience with such devices, good or bad, and 
what

brand name do you have ? The reMarkable 2 is on the pricey side, for
what I can see, but it looks like it is worth it.

Anyway, lemme know what you use (if any)..

Thanks :-)

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Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

2021-01-27 Thread rob
You can usually see why in the headers of the email that was marked as 
spam.

Those headers are not passed to us in your reply.

The reasons shown are sometimes obscure and technical (especially if you 
are not familiar with the terms), and sometimes clear.


On 2021-01-26 18:58, Kevin Szabo wrote:

I just found one of the replies to this thread was marked as spam.  
Dunno why


On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 9:54 AM James Lockie  
wrote:


$799 USD for the base phoe
No wireless AC. :-(

On January 23, 2021 00:06:57 "Brenda J. Butler"  
wrote:


Hello Linux hive-mind -

Anyone out there in Linux-land with experience they are willing to 
share

using a cell phone with good privacy that doesn't track you?

This request eventually reminded me about the Purism phone:

https://puri.sm/

which purports to be a ground-up phone OS designed for privacy.

I have not bought it but maybe I should.

I was under the impression that the person who started the
company was in Toronto but they are based in the States now.
But that is a vague memory and may be entirely false.

They don't have social media icons.  Their web page (front page)
is served from one server (impressive!).  They have a warrant
canary page and two people gpg-sign a message for that page on
a monthly basis.

Looks legit.

I'm guessing they are expensive as they are not subsidized
by Big Tech.  Haven't seen prices yet.

bjb

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Re: [linux] Motherboard Layout Poblem

2021-01-18 Thread rob

Hi

I have a new WiFi dongle on my ancient Lenovo laptop.

Pretty sure it's on a USB 2.x port, not 3.0.

Works fine.

Rob

On 2021-01-16 23:44, Edward Hong wrote:


Hi,

If the Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 has an available (unused) USB 3.0 port, 
then you might consider a WiFi/Bluetooth dongle. I believe Amazon (and 
probably other vendors) list several such adapters - most seem to be 
priced under $60 and you just need to find one that supports your 
preferred OS.


An example (but you can probably find other candidates similar to this 
one...) 
https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Adapter-600mbps-Wireless-Network/dp/B081YQFQDN/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1=wireless+bluetooth+usb+adapter+linux=1610858460=8-8


Good luck with your hunt.

Cheers,

Ed

On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 10:10 PM Kevin Szabo  
wrote:
If you just want WiFi access another approach is to take an old router 
and reconfigure it as an access point.  I know it isn't contained 
within your desktop box, but might be a cheap solution if you have old 
unused hardware kicking around


On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 8:08 PM Scott Murphy 
 wrote:

A bus extender may work, however they can cost money.

In addition, if the graphics card in the PCIE16 slot covers the PCIE1 
slot, it is also possible that when the PCIE16 slot is in use for a 
graphics card, the PCIE1 slot next to it is not usable. I know that is 
true of my recent motherboard. You should check your manual and see. In 
that case, you are probably stuck with the PCI option or a USB solution 
(and higher end ones are more expensive than the PCI option).


On Jan 14, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Shawn H Corey  
wrote:


Hi,

I have an older system with a Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Motherboard and I 
want to add a Wifi/Bluetooth card to it. The motherboard has a PCIE16, 
a PCE1, and a PCI slot. The problem is the graphics card uses the 
PCIE16 slot and covers the PCE1 slot leaving only the older PCI slot.


All of the cards I have looked at are PCIE cards, which of course, 
won't work in this setup. I could get a PCI-to-PCIE adapter card but 
those are around $60 each.


Does anyone know a good (and by good I mean cheap) solution to this?

Re: [linux] help with find

2020-12-28 Thread Rob Echlin
I think the newer versions of find have a "-rm" option.
This will work instead of the exec command.
Might work even with spaces.
Or you might need to use the parameter that separates file names with \0 
instead of spaces.

Rob

Dec. 28, 2020 19:40:22 James :

> I want to find all the empty .txt files under the current directories.
> I eventually want to delete them. :-)
> There are spaces in the directory names.
> 
> I tried:
> find . -name \*.txt -empty -exec "ls -l '{}'" \;
> but it gives "No such file or directory" errors (which I am guessing is from 
> the ls -l.
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Re: [linux] I need to be more explicit I guess :)

2020-12-03 Thread rob

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[linux] Tig for Git?

2020-04-23 Thread Rob Echlin
HiAnybody here using "tig"? 
It's a text mode interface for git, that uses ncurses.Interested in finding out 
how well it works for you.
https://github.com/jonas/tig
Thanks,Rob

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Re: [linux] COBOL programmers wanted

2020-04-12 Thread Rob Echlin
I think the pay rate is at least $200 / hour too low.
Rob


On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 9:09:45 p.m. EDT, Peter Sjöberg 
 wrote:  
 
 On 2020-04-12 8:01 p.m., Mike Doyle [NEW EMAIL] wrote:
> I though there might be some interest in this.
> 
> https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/business/coronavirus-cobol-programmers-new-jersey-trnd/index.html
> 


Note the word "volunteers" = they want it for free.
It was a long discussion around it on the classic computer list. I
didn't read it all but it seems like the standard "if it ain't broken
don't fix it" - until it's broken and then you need it fixed yesterday
and for free since you never made a budget for to take care of it.

A bit like "why have a fire department if it's no fires".

/ps

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Re: [PosibleSPAM] [linux] seeking info

2020-02-08 Thread Rob Echlin
   On Saturday, February 8, 2020, 8:08:46 p.m. EST, Charles MacDonald 
 wrote:  
 
 On 2020-02-08 11:11 a.m., Callie Jones wrote:

> I have now run into a problem with my bank of all things - the online 
> banking is not working and the bank is blaming Firefox. They are looking 
> into fixing the problem at their end so it might not actually be a 
> Firefox issue. The bank does not know when the prob will be resolved. 
> This just started for me yesterday, although the bank started advising 
> clients about the Firefox issue several days ago.

FWIW, the bank I use, has started giving me what I guess is the same 
problem, and there note on their log in page would not even load!  (mine 
is up to 72.0.2)  They are blaming firefox also, and I guess that 
Firefox has dropped an older protocol.

still It would be a good idea to migrate to a supported version.

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Re: [linux] Is there an org in Ottawa packaging used computers for free?

2020-01-29 Thread Rob Echlin
   > On Wednesday, January 29, 2020, 8:38:07 p.m. EST, Brett Delmage 
 wrote:  
 
 > On Thu, 30 Jan 2020, Rob Echlin wrote:

> > There used to be one or more groups recycling computers for people who 
> > otherwise could not afford one.
> > 
> > Is there still a group doing that?
> 
> Here is one I have donated gear to:
> 
> http://compucorps.org/donations/
> 
> CompuCorps is a high-tech charity that seeks to benefit Canadian society 
> by providing at risk groups (Aboriginal, youth,  seniors and those living 
> with disability) career and life skills training focused on access to 
> technology (computers) and the internet.
>
> The organization runs three programs including; TechYouth, TechReuse and 
> TechMentor. It was funded in 2000, has engaged over 250 IT volunteers, and 
> it has contributed to over 100 charity projects supported by a dedicated 
> team of members and volunteers. Located at 1040 Somerset St west,
>
> but...
>
> CompuCorps is also a registered Microsoft partner and refurbisher.
> 
> http://compucorps.org/techstore/
> "Win 7 OS for All"
> 
> ---
> 
> I wonder if OCLUG might be able to work with them to help connect
> them and the people they serve with Linux? I'd be willing to do something
> there.>
>
> Brett
Hi Brett,
I would not go in to try to replace Windows with Linux.
Perhaps we could talk to them about providing:
- web/cloud server management classes.- Raspberry Pi classes - in Python- 
Javascript classes for front and back end

Any other ideas?

Of course we need to have our ducks in a row - volunteers for such classes, and 
maybe some pre-written training material that we found on the interwebs.
Rob
  

[linux] Is there an org in Ottawa packaging used computers for free?

2020-01-29 Thread Rob Echlin
HiThere used to be one or more groups recycling computers for people who 
otherwise could not afford one.
Is there still a group doing that?
Thanks,Rob

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Re: [linux] looking to document a decent (fedora) linux development environment

2019-07-14 Thread Rob Echlin
A couple notes about the environment I work in, which your folk may want to 
take into account.I'm not a C dev, but a system dev.
Compiling using containers works fine - someone needs to figure it out and make 
it work, then you have a consistent environment for developer desktops that is 
identical to what your final build will be.
The developers grab their containers from your internal container repository, 
so when you update it, they all get the update on the next build.
First, you need more than gmake for builds.At least, anyone building everything 
in gmake is in for a lot of pain and no one will want to take it over.
Jenkins is fine for all that high level packaging for Windows, Mac, Unices, 
AWS, GCP, etc, pushing to internal repos, pushing to external repos like Nuget 
and Maven's public repos. 
Jenkins can also handle emails that say exactly what failed, and run Coverity 
and/or its free competitors on all the branches. 

We use scripts kicked off by Jenkins to create new branches (feature and 
release) plus jobs in Jenkins for the new branch to build on every commit, run 
Coverity at night, and run tests in different environments.
We are also Java SAAS shop, where we also do CI/CD using Jenkins.

However, I have been using GitLab for building a web site at home, and the 
tools look like they have strong functionality, very clean, but the CI/CD is 
more command-line oriented than Jenkins.By that I mean the build is in a 
wiki-like format that you can edit with VIM, whereas Jenkins stores that config 
stuff in XML.
It should be a fine environment for a C shop.Or for a SAAS shop.

All my very best,Rob

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On Sunday, July 14, 2019, 5:59:17 p.m. EDT, Rick Leir  
wrote:  
 
 I have experience with Fedora, Centos and a debian based distro ( Ubuntu!).

Fedora is bleeding edge. You will sometimes need to learn something new just to 
keep the machine usable. And you will be forced to upgrade regularly (is it a 
yearly thing?).

Centos has the same packages, but not bleeding edge and you are not forced to 
upgrade so often. It is your best choice for a server, but its desktop is not 
as good as Ubuntu. 

You said the devs are moving from Windows? I would be cheering, but maybe they 
do not want to change. The biggest issue might be as you say IDE or devops. 
Just allow them to install all the tools they want .. VScode, Notepad++, Atom, 
... It is hard to predict what they will want installed tomorrow or even ten 
minutes from now, the choices are very personal. That is fine, installing 
packages is easy on Centos and Ubuntu. Not always easy on Fedora because of 
package versions. Ping me directly if you want more on this.

You can document it today, and it will be different within days.
Cheers
Rick



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wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jul 2019, J C Nash wrote:


Is there a particular reason to specify fedora?


 the client wants to standardize on a distro that has solid
development infrastructure, i recommended fedora, and they were fine
with that. most packages will be available across the board, so
restricting it to fedora should not cause any major problems.

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[linux] Linux in the wild?

2019-07-07 Thread Rob Echlin
HiIs there a plan for Linux in the Wild?
ThanksRob (and Charlotte)

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[linux] Horde!

2019-04-27 Thread Rob Echlin
HiHas anyone here had any experience with Horde?What use cases make sense for 
it?
Not planning to use it at this time, just bumped into it while searching for 
other stuff.

Anyone here have experience with non-MS mail servers and totally non-MS 
software in an office?Is it reasonable for a company that has sales people in 
it, and marketing types, all the usual staff?
Thanks!
Rob

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Re: [linux] Is there an OCLUG-related place where I can advertise local training?

2019-03-29 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi RobI would suggest speaking at local tech groups.Offer a 1 hour intro to 
Linux command line, or a 5 minute talk on something neat you can do with a 
command line tool, or a one-liner.

One of the largest tech meetups locally is the Python Author's Group.Talk to 
Ian Ward about it.
I would contact several groups to see if there is interest.Some might allow you 
to speak for 1 minute at the end of the meeting, the way the Python group let's 
people promote the jobs they have available.
Ciao!

-- Rob Echlin

 

On Thursday, March 28, 2019, 2:58:58 p.m. EDT, Robert P. J. Day 
 wrote:  
 
 
  In the very near future, I want to start offering some of my regular
Linux and Linux-related courses locally, either single-client, on-site
courses, or general public courses, most likely at a shared co-working
space called CoWorkly (https://www.coworkly.ca/) on Montreal Rd.

  I don't want to use this list to spam members with constant
marketing about what is coming up, but if there was somewhere that one
could list Linux-related technical training (for anyone offering such
classes, not just me), that would be great.

  Lately, I've been doing a lot of Git training (both intro and
advanced), and I'm currently putting together some courseware on
container technology (podman, Buildah, skopeo, all that Docker-related
stuff) and should have an intro course in about a month. And, of
course, there's a pile of other basic Linux courses I can teach if the
demand is there.

  I like to think that the value of this to the local Linux community
is that there would be a local source of *affordable* training, where
local employers wouldn't have to send their folks out of town and pay
outrageous registration, so that's part of my sales pitch, as it were.

  In any event, I'm open to suggestions as to how to promote this idea
to people who'd be interested, without turning it into constant
marketing. Thoughts?

rday

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Fw: [linux] Running a bakery on Emacs and PostgreSQL

2019-03-07 Thread Rob Echlin
Thanks!I haven't tried org mode.Rob


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When the need to keep track of stock, ingredients and so on for a bakery
the first thing you think of is of course Emacs and postgresql right ?
Maybe not everyone but at least that's the path Piers took
https://bofh.org.uk/2019/02/25/baking-with-emacs/

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Re: [linux] ok, what is the most "newbie-friendly" version of linux these days?

2019-02-24 Thread Rob Echlin
The best distro for newbies is the one that comes with an expert to help them 
out.
So, give them one that is compatible with what you use.For instance,  If you 
use any kind of ubuntu, or Debian, give them a variant of Debian, not a variant 
of Red Hat.Mint would qualify.I provide Xubuntu for my family.

All my very best,Rob

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On Sunday, February 24, 2019, 10:34:44 a.m. EST, Robert P. J. Day 
 wrote:  
 
 
  it's a question for the ages ... i have the opportunity to migrate
someone from a dying windows pc to a spare laptop i have, and rather
than run around looking for windows installation media, she's willing
to at least entertain the notion of linux, as she needs little more
than surfing/email/MS office functionality.

  last time i thought about it, i would have recommended linux mint
... are there any other serious contenders at this point? i'm perusing
this article at the moment:

https://itsfoss.com/best-linux-beginners/

rday

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Re: [linux] forwarding to a gmail account

2019-01-19 Thread Rob Echlin
I had an issue where my domain name provider did not maintain their machine's 
reverse DNS in a timely fashion.I am with a different provider now, who also 
provides web hosting.
Replies are sent to my email address at echlin.ca and bounce if the email 
server at the DNS provider does not have the correct reverse dns.
This was important despite the fact that all my email messages originate from 
yahoo.Not sure if this is relevant to your problem.
All my very best,Rob
On Saturday, January 19, 2019, 4:13:53 p.m. EST, Rick Leir 
 wrote:  
 
 Michael,
The reverse DNS is also mentioned in the Google help page. Your reverse DNS 
seems to be wrong.
HTH -- Rick

On January 19, 2019 1:02:39 PM EST, "Michael P. Soulier" 
 wrote:
So, I help our my sister's business by handling her domain. For some
time she has paid for a virtual server with westhost.com, and on it, I
have a simple forward rule in /etc/aliases for her business account to
her gmail account, as she requested.

trish: tsoul...@gmail.com
petservices: trish

So someone emailing petservi...@pawsitiveapproach.ca will result in a
forward to tsoul...@gmail.com. This has been working fine.

Suddenly it's not.

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
tsoul...@gmail.com
(reason: 550-5.7.1 This message does not have authentication
information or fails to pass)
(expanded from: trish)

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com.:



DATA



<<< 550-5.7.1 This message does not have authentication information or
fails to pass
<<< 550-5.7.1 authentication checks. To best protect our users from
spam, the
<<< 550-5.7.1 message has been blocked. Please visit
<<< 550-5.7.1
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication for more
<<< 550 5.7.1 information. s3si2560808iom.144 - gsmtp
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable

I don't understand why google is asking for authentication for a simple
forward. We're not relaying, we're forwarding.

I'm in the middle of moving her nameservers to use my config at
digitalocean so I can better control her setup, but I've had the same
issue there with a simple mail forward so I'm asking.

If I use postfix' virtual hosting, then that works. But why would a
simple /etc/aliases forward be rejected?

Help appreciated. Google's explanation is not helpful, at least to me.

Mike

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[linux] Anyone else on Mastodon?

2019-01-19 Thread Rob Echlin
HiI just joined Mastodon:*  @AfterTheMoon@tabletop.social
Anyone else here on Mastodon?
All my very best,Rob
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Re: [linux] January Meeting: 2019-01-10 @ 18:30

2019-01-03 Thread Rob Echlin
Hi Qingwei,Here is the link.This is about malware - software that attacks your 
Linux system, not a flaw in the OpenSSL software.
So there is no vulnerability to look up.
Rob

https://www.zdnet.com/article/eset-discovers-21-new-linux-malware-families/ 



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On Thursday, January 3, 2019, 12:23, QINGWEI ZHANG  
wrote:


Hi Bob,
I would like to know more about the OpenSSL malware issue, but I did not find 
any server bug on the their official website. (Vulnerabilities 
https://www.openssl.org/news/vulnerabilities.html)
The latest Vulnerabilities is this:
CVE-2018-5407 (OpenSSL advisory) [Low severity] 02 November 2018: 
https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2018-5407
If I miss something, could you please let me know? Thank you. Regards,Qingwei 
Zhang
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 7:22 PM Rob Echlin  wrote:

Hi Team Yow!Apparently there has been another malware discovered recently, 
possibly replacing libraries for OpenSSL, which affects Linux.
Maybe someone could talk about this, and Linux attacks in general. A bit out of 
my area.
All my very best,Rob
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On Monday, December 31, 2018, 11:50:58 p.m. EST, Scott Murphy 
 wrote:  
 
 The meeting will be the SECOND Thursday, as we couldn’t get the first Thursday.

Location: We will be in the Centennial Library, starting at 18:30. 

This is the same location as December 2018. Again, note the location, time, and 
date. We will be in this location for The first half of 2019. The Centennial 
Library is at 3870 Old Richmond Rd. in Bells Corners. Bus routes 88, 9, and 256 
are listed as servicing that area. Note that we will be done by 20:30, as this 
library closes earlier than the other location.

This month we are having a VoIP talk. 
- I haven’t talked about VoIP for a while, so it is probably due. 
- If anyone wants to contribute, feel free. 

- Since we have a somewhat shorter evening and we have to take a few minutes to 
setup and tear down the room, I don’t want to over commit on time. We will get 
a better handle as time goes on.

There will be a half hour pre-meeting item from 18:00 to 18:30 for people who 
are new to Linux, have general questions, or wish to help out with people who 
are just getting started.

After the meeting, there could be an optional social event at one of the nearby 
pubs or restaurants. A short discussion and vote as to location will be taken 
then.

After the talks, there will be the opportunity for a GPG key signing. This is a 
monthly offering, just look for Scott after the talk and we can go from there. 
Bring some kind of photo ID and some keyslips if you expect people to sign your 
key. If you need some method of creating pages of keyslips, there is an online 
slip generator available at http://openpgp.quelltextlich.at/slip.html

Note: New speakers welcome. If you have a topic or know someone who may have a 
good topic for a meeting, feel free to suggest it to the board.


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[linux] Camerata: better than meetups, and FLOSS

2018-06-29 Thread Rob Echlin
HiCamerata is a name for a group of people with shared goals, working together 
to help each other with a common goal, such as to improve something.They 
generally get together in real life, not just online.They may also help each 
other to get better at the skills needed for the thing they are working on 
together.
Like a meetup, but with more interaction.Like a hackathon, but with more 
interaction.
I think such a group could be supported by online software, and could be an 
online group, as well as IRL.
More about the camerata idea, in an article on Medium called The origins of 
Opera and the Future of Programming.
For each group in the system, there would be one or more sets of related 
articles, possibly called a book.Each article would have one author, with the 
ability to allow one other person at a time to edit it instead of them.Articles 
would be private or public.There would be discussion streams for each article, 
for each book, for the group as a whole.I would expect date and conversation 
access, like a mail list archive, as well as the long stream.
Each group would have 0 or more offline meetup groups, with scheduled meetings 
and locations, descriptions of the event - speakers, topics.
OK, there's more.There would not be one site, but loads, like Mastadon.Each 
site would have a streaming list of recent articles, tailored to the logged-in 
viewer like Medium. In other words, based on your preferences and history of 
what you veiwed, groups you subscribed to.You can subscrbe to groups as a 
reader, separately from joining as a member/author.
There would be a stream of articles from other sites.You would click on that 
link in the summary in the stream, and read the article on it's home site, 
probably.You can comment on articles, comments are threaded so you can have 
conversations.Comments on one article are one of the discussion streams for 
that article.
Each group would have a stream of it's own articles.Each group would also have 
a list of the bookshelves.Each book would have an heirarchical toc, like a book 
or magazine.Maybe there could be a mindmap view?You can view/read the book as a 
whole, with ability to jump around in it to other articles.
I think I have too many features in this software already. 
There could be presentations in the book as well.
WYSIWYG editor, plus ReST source editor.
I will post more details in a GitLab repo later this weekend.
Any comments?
Know of any open source software that is close to (parts of) this, that I could 
fork, or just learn from?
All my very best,Rob
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[linux] Email

2018-06-13 Thread Rob Echlin
HiI have been looking briefly at email vendors from Switzerland.
So far, the clearest story I have found is:- 
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/switzerland-wont-save-you-either-why-e-mail-might-still-be-safer-in-us/
Prices:- Euros 48/year - https://protonmail.com/signup- CAN 12/month paid 
annually - https://protonmail.com/signup - includes Kolab Groupware- ??
Basically, nothing at $27/year.
All my very best,Rob
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