Re: distro wars (was Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux)

[Bryan Larsen]

My path was similar except it started with SLS.   Followed the shiny for
far too long.   Installed Ubuntu while it was still shiny and then stuck
with it as I realized that following the shiny is a fool's errand.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 12:16 Brett Delmage <
brett.delm...@twobikes.ottawa.on.ca> wrote:

> I've used Slackware, Mandriva, something or two or three handed out at
> OCLUG meetings around the Corel Linux era (does anyone remember their
> names?), Redhat, SUSE, Debian, and Ubuntu.
>
> I haven't switched from Ubuntu for about 6 years now on server and
> Kubuntu on desktop.
>
> For me, it's been reasonably up-to-date, rarely broke badly, and worked
> well enough. As for choosing Kubuntu - it was better than gnome at the
> time, and now it's intertia. :-)
>
> I recently upgraded my web/dns/list server from from Ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04
> LTS Bionic Beaver to get recent versions of apache, wget, php etc. which I
> was installing from PPEs (alternate repositories). The upgrade went very
> smoothly. I quickly ripped out netplan, "The network configuration
> abstraction renderer" (bleah!) after installation though. netplan.io is
> one of those bad choices that sometimes come with Ubuntu, I'll admit.
>
> I reinstalled good old ifconfig, which took about 5 minutes and others
> have already provided instructions for.
>
> Of course the great thing about the Linux ecosystem is choice and
> customizability.
>
> Brett

distro wars (was Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux)

[Brett Delmage]

I've used Slackware, Mandriva, something or two or three handed out at 
OCLUG meetings around the Corel Linux era (does anyone remember their 
names?), Redhat, SUSE, Debian, and Ubuntu.


I haven't switched from Ubuntu for about 6 years now on server and 
Kubuntu on desktop.


For me, it's been reasonably up-to-date, rarely broke badly, and worked 
well enough. As for choosing Kubuntu - it was better than gnome at the 
time, and now it's intertia. :-)


I recently upgraded my web/dns/list server from from Ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04 
LTS Bionic Beaver to get recent versions of apache, wget, php etc. which I 
was installing from PPEs (alternate repositories). The upgrade went very 
smoothly. I quickly ripped out netplan, "The network configuration 
abstraction renderer" (bleah!) after installation though. netplan.io is 
one of those bad choices that sometimes come with Ubuntu, I'll admit.


I reinstalled good old ifconfig, which took about 5 minutes and others 
have already provided instructions for.


Of course the great thing about the Linux ecosystem is choice and 
customizability.


Brett

Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux

[Ian! D. Allen]

> > I waffle between xfce4 and lxde with a slight preference for the
> > latter. I really need an xterm and "focus follows mouse"
> I use xterm and focus-follows-mouse under XFCE. LXDE is OK, but I like
> the XFCE panel quite a lot.

I start stock Ubuntu.  When I log in, I kill off gnome-shell and
nautilus-desktop, and start vtwm with bunches of urxvt (via urxvtd)
running tmux with bunches of windows.  Every urxvt has the access to the
same list of 40 tmux windows.  I have four vtwm virtual desktops stacked
vertically with five urxvt horizontally on each, across two 1600x1200
monitors, with a third monitor for Firefox.  I still have parts of my
.vtwmrc and .Xresources that I used for twm back in the 1980s.

> > (oh yeah, and no use at all for CAPS LOCK).
> You can xmodmap CAPS LOCK into oblivion...

Yes.

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Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux

[J C Nash]

For older machines I used to use CrunchBang, now Bunsenlabs.

It's debian + Openbox. Quite nice, but not at all like many other interfaces.

For regular machines, afraid I'm Mint/MATE because I share with people who used 
to use Win XP,
and Mint/MATE looks a lot similar. So the reasoning is social rather than 
technical.

However, I've been finding that I can persuade them to use Double Commander as 
their main
interface to files and apps they need, and I can add customized icons.

JN

On 2018-12-10 9:45 a.m., Bruce Harding wrote:
> I'm all Gentoo at home. It feeds my OCD. 浪
> 
> Bruce
> 
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018, 9:31 AM Richard Guy Briggs   wrote:
> 
> On 2018-12-10 09:01, Dianne Skoll wrote:
> > On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 16:21:51 -0500
> > Rick Leir mailto:rl...@leirtech.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > Now we can switch the thread to distro wars! I like Ubuntu for the 
> desktop.
> >
> > Debian + XFCE4 for me.  At work, I was given Ubuntu with GNOME which I
> > quickly converted to Ubuntu + XFCE4.
> 
> I waffle between xfce4 and lxde with a slight preference for the latter.  
> I
> really need an xterm and "focus follows mouse" (oh yeah, and no use at 
> all for
> CAPS LOCK).
> 
> My personal machines are Debian but I dogfood for $WORK.  I don't ubuntu
> anymore since it wouldn't install on a couple of desktops where Debian 
> "just
> worked"(tm), besides I don't trust Shuttleworth.
> 
> > Dianne.
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Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux

[Dianne Skoll]

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 09:31:52 -0500
Richard Guy Briggs  wrote:

> I waffle between xfce4 and lxde with a slight preference for the latter.  I
> really need an xterm and "focus follows mouse"

I use xterm and focus-follows-mouse under XFCE.  LXDE is OK, but I like the
XFCE panel quite a lot.

> (oh yeah, and no use at all for CAPS LOCK).

You can xmodmap CAPS LOCK into oblivion...

Regards,

Dianne.

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Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2018-12-10 09:01, Dianne Skoll wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 16:21:51 -0500
> Rick Leir  wrote:
> 
> > Now we can switch the thread to distro wars! I like Ubuntu for the desktop.
> 
> Debian + XFCE4 for me.  At work, I was given Ubuntu with GNOME which I
> quickly converted to Ubuntu + XFCE4.

I waffle between xfce4 and lxde with a slight preference for the latter.  I
really need an xterm and "focus follows mouse" (oh yeah, and no use at all for
CAPS LOCK).

My personal machines are Debian but I dogfood for $WORK.  I don't ubuntu
anymore since it wouldn't install on a couple of desktops where Debian "just
worked"(tm), besides I don't trust Shuttleworth.

> Dianne.

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Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux

[Dianne Skoll]

On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 16:21:51 -0500
Rick Leir  wrote:

> Now we can switch the thread to distro wars! I like Ubuntu for the desktop.

Debian + XFCE4 for me.  At work, I was given Ubuntu with GNOME which I
quickly converted to Ubuntu + XFCE4.

Regards,

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Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux

[Bart Trojanowski]

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 8:06 AM Richard Guy Briggs  wrote:

> On 2018-12-10 07:55, Nathan Kirk wrote:
> > Fedora with KDE works best for me.Cheers,Nathan
>
> /me stays away from gnome and isn't a fan of kde.
>
>
I'm with you 100%,  i3wm for life(*)

(*) or until something better comes along

Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux

[Richard Guy Briggs]

On 2018-12-10 07:55, Nathan Kirk wrote:
> Fedora with KDE works best for me.Cheers,Nathan

/me stays away from gnome and isn't a fan of kde.

>  Original message From: Rick Leir  Date: 
> 2018-12-09  4:21 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Barry McLarnon , 
> linux@linux-ottawa.org Subject: Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux 
> Barry
> Now we can switch the thread to distro wars! I like Ubuntu for the desktop.
> Cheers -- Rick

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Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux

[Nathan Kirk]

Fedora with KDE works best for me.Cheers,Nathan


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 Original message From: Rick Leir  Date: 
2018-12-09  4:21 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Barry McLarnon , 
linux@linux-ottawa.org Subject: Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux 
Barry
Now we can switch the thread to distro wars! I like Ubuntu for the desktop.
Cheers -- Rick

On December 9, 2018 3:50:11 PM EST, Barry McLarnon  
wrote:
Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions on where to acquire 
hardware.  Since I don't need portability and am leery of buying used 
gear, I got quotes on a custom OS-less desktop system from Canada 
Computers and RB Computing.  In the end, I opted to go with RB for a 
number of reasons, not the least of which is that I've dealt with them 
before - that's where I bought my current system than I want to 
mothball, nine years ago this month.  For some reason I had the 
impression that RB had disappeared, but it turns out that they're still 
very much alive and kicking.  I splurged a bit on a 1TB SDD, but the 
system is otherwise pretty vanilla (Asus ATX mobo w/i5-8600 cpu & 8GB 
DDR4 ram, and an HDD for mirroring).  When I get it this coming week, 
I'll see how openSUSE Tumbleweed rolls along on it.

Barry

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Re: [linux] Hardware sources redux

[Rick Leir]

Barry
Now we can switch the thread to distro wars! I like Ubuntu for the desktop.
Cheers -- Rick

On December 9, 2018 3:50:11 PM EST, Barry McLarnon  
wrote:
>Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions on where to acquire 
>hardware.  Since I don't need portability and am leery of buying used 
>gear, I got quotes on a custom OS-less desktop system from Canada 
>Computers and RB Computing.  In the end, I opted to go with RB for a 
>number of reasons, not the least of which is that I've dealt with them 
>before - that's where I bought my current system than I want to 
>mothball, nine years ago this month.  For some reason I had the 
>impression that RB had disappeared, but it turns out that they're still
>
>very much alive and kicking.  I splurged a bit on a 1TB SDD, but the 
>system is otherwise pretty vanilla (Asus ATX mobo w/i5-8600 cpu & 8GB 
>DDR4 ram, and an HDD for mirroring).  When I get it this coming week, 
>I'll see how openSUSE Tumbleweed rolls along on it.
>
>Barry
>
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