Re: Yast2 - Cannot read package data from installation media
hi, one thing I see is that the entry dir:///cd1/ refers to directory /cd1, but you have mounted the cd to /root/cd1. To verify this have a look at /var/log/YaST2/y2log. There the directory that is accessed is shown. Ihno On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:04:52PM +0100, Bertil Starck wrote: Hi! In Yast I use the Software and the submenu Change Source of Installation to recognize the media for the upgrade process. So it can look like this: Status???Name ???URL ??? On ???dir:///cd1/???dir:///cd1 ??? Off ???nfs://172.24.19.49/home/berra//???nfs://172.24.19.49/home/berra/ Mark, how do you use HTTP with upgrades? Do you download the CD:s first to your site? Regards Bertil What menu selections did you use in YaST to try to recognize the media an= d start the upgrade process? (And to repeat myself yet again, this kind of problem is why I always try to use HTTP installs/upgrades. I can tell fr= om the access_log exactly what is going on.) Mark Post Hi! I'm trying to use Yast to migrate from Sles9 to Sles10. I have downloaded the thre CD:s from Novell: SLES-10-CD-s390x-GMC-CD1.iso SLES-10-CD-s390x-GMC-CD2.iso SLES-10-CD-s390x-GMC-CD3.iso I got this error in Yast: Cannot read package data from installation media. Media error? * ERROR: No proposal I have mounted the ..CD1.iso as I mount Service Pack CD:s on SLes9: mount -t nfs 172.24.19.49:/home/berra /slask mount -o loop -t iso9660 -r /slask/SLES-10-CD-s390x-GMC-CD1.iso cd1 The dir cd1 i created under /root How can I get this to work? On the sles-admin.pdf on the SLES-10-CD-s390x-GMC-CD1.iso (Chapter 8) they talk about migration..? What kind of package data is about to be read? Anyone who have migrated using Yast or can I use any other method? Med Vänlig Hälsning / Best Regards Bertil Starck Handelsbanken CDTI-S tel: +46 8 701 22 51 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs?
Jeez, I thought my wife's PC (a Celeron at 1.4GHz) was slow when I got rid of it a year ago. I didn't know that people still used 350MHz PCs g. K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:33 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs? On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 06:20 +0900, John Summerfield wrote: I didn't know Gentoo was available for z:-) Guess it was at one time (see http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/s390/ ) but I don't think it was anything but experimental, and it hasn't been looked at in awhile. Think Matt Zimmerman was involved, if I'm not mistaken. It takes 45 hours to emerge OpenOffice on my little 350MHz intelbox at home. Can't imagine what it would take in a 7060 LPAR in competition with z/OS. Some things are best left installed from binaries! -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs?
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Kevin R Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 6:04 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs? Jeez, I thought my wife's PC (a Celeron at 1.4GHz) was slow when I got rid of it a year ago. I didn't know that people still used 350MHz PCs g. K Gee, you just heaped scorn upon most of my company's desktops! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs?
John, I'm sorry for you g. Although, even Lockheed has some pretty underpowered desktop PCs here...just not as bad as 350MHz. K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:35 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evans, Kevin R Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 6:04 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs? Jeez, I thought my wife's PC (a Celeron at 1.4GHz) was slow when I got rid of it a year ago. I didn't know that people still used 350MHz PCs g. K Gee, you just heaped scorn upon most of my company's desktops! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Root, SSH and Console login
James Melin wrote: Hello List! I've been wondering how one might prevent SSH logon to root, and still have the ability to logon at the console logon presented to the VM guest ID. We've implemented sudo quite effectively, but we're not sure how to lock down direct SSH root logon and if it would actually have any impact against console logon which we would want to keep in case of epic disaster. Also, is there a way to allow user 'joe' to su to user 'sam' but NOT allow him to su to root, thus bypassing sudo? So far all I've come up with on restricting su is an all or only root approach. Any insight appreciated. James - You might want to look at how Ubuntu does this (even though it's not for s390). There is no root password; everything is done through sudo. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for some more information on this. Kim Goldenberg State of NJ - OIT -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Root, SSH and Console login
Thanks Marcy, Mark John. I mostly wanted to know I was not going to shoot the left foot while trying to keep the right foot out of trouble. I think I'm there. -J Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc 12/07/2006 04:45 PM Subject Re: Root, SSH and Console login Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Hello Jim, What you want in your sshd_config is PermitRootLogin NO. You'll still be able to login on the VM console. In your /etc/sudoers Cmnd_Alias SUSAM = /bin/su - sam , /bin/su sam joe ALL=SUSAM The joe types sudo su - sam Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 2:02 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [LINUX-390] Root, SSH and Console login Hello List! I've been wondering how one might prevent SSH logon to root, and still have the ability to logon at the console logon presented to the VM guest ID. We've implemented sudo quite effectively, but we're not sure how to lock down direct SSH root logon and if it would actually have any impact against console logon which we would want to keep in case of epic disaster. Also, is there a way to allow user 'joe' to su to user 'sam' but NOT allow him to su to root, thus bypassing sudo? So far all I've come up with on restricting su is an all or only root approach. Any insight appreciated. Thanks! -J -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs?
Heh. Sent this to the wrong list on my first try. Take two: This may not be the correct place to ask this question, but Google isn't helping a ton and I can't bear the thought of posting into most other Linux fora, so I'm going to run this past you folks first. To cut to the chase, as part of an effort to figur out why we had trouble with a prof-of-concept application that ate every CPU cycle our IFL could give it, I have written a couple of small Ruby scripts as a stress-testing mechanism. The basic idea is: * Create a small test database on our problematic MySQL image. (Database = 100,000 rows, each of which has a numeric key and one field consisting of 30 random alphabetic characters.) this part is fine. * On another guest, fork a bunch of processes, each of which will read a random row from the database, generate another random 30-character string, and update the record. This procedure goes fine as long as I fork a few thousand processes. Once I reach 8500 or so, however, I start receiving this: Resource temporarily unavailable - fork(2) (Errno::EAGAIN) According to everything I can find, EAGAIN on fork(2) indicates that the system can not allocate sufficient memory to create the child process, but if I issue free -m while my stress test script is running I show plenty of available memory. Am I hitting a per-user process limit or some such? Any ideas? TIA, Jon -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs?
A ulimit -a command will tell you what your limits are. On my Slackware systems, the default is 512 processes. It may be different on your distribution. You may also want to look at what is shown for open files, max memory size, and virtual memory, etc. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jon Brock Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 2:23 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Best Practices for zSeries linux ISVs? Heh. Sent this to the wrong list on my first try. Take two: This may not be the correct place to ask this question, but Google isn't helping a ton and I can't bear the thought of posting into most other Linux fora, so I'm going to run this past you folks first. To cut to the chase, as part of an effort to figur out why we had trouble with a prof-of-concept application that ate every CPU cycle our IFL could give it, I have written a couple of small Ruby scripts as a stress-testing mechanism. The basic idea is: * Create a small test database on our problematic MySQL image. (Database = 100,000 rows, each of which has a numeric key and one field consisting of 30 random alphabetic characters.) this part is fine. * On another guest, fork a bunch of processes, each of which will read a random row from the database, generate another random 30-character string, and update the record. This procedure goes fine as long as I fork a few thousand processes. Once I reach 8500 or so, however, I start receiving this: Resource temporarily unavailable - fork(2) (Errno::EAGAIN) According to everything I can find, EAGAIN on fork(2) indicates that the system can not allocate sufficient memory to create the child process, but if I issue free -m while my stress test script is running I show plenty of available memory. Am I hitting a per-user process limit or some such? Any ideas? TIA, Jon -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
WAS on zAAP versus pSeries
Does anyone have an idea how running WebSphere Application Server on z/OS on a System z zAAP would compare to running it on x number of processors of a P595 at 1.9GHZ? Any good guesses on the value of x here? What if it was an IFL instead? Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist Suntrust Banks, Inc (404) 575-2798 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seeing beyond money (sm) LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: WAS on zAAP versus pSeries
I don't think there is a zAAP on the IFL side. IBM says zAAPs are the same price as IFLs, but they are not. You don't license software for zAAPs but you do for the IFLs. I also recall somewhere, where it was stated that if you had the processing to totally use an engine, that only about 40% would end up on the zAAP with the rest (non Java code) would be on a standard or IFL engine. But all that depends on your mix of Java vs non-Java code. So things become even more murkey. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/8/2006 3:05 PM Does anyone have an idea how running WebSphere Application Server on z/OS on a System z zAAP would compare to running it on x number of processors of a P595 at 1.9GHZ? Any good guesses on the value of x here? What if it was an IFL instead? Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist Suntrust Banks, Inc (404) 575-2798 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seeing beyond money (sm) LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem
That's it (maybe). Vanilla Oracle 9iR2 for mainframe linux requires 31bit SLES 8. There are two patches that are required to fix the oracle installer. What the patch numbers are off the top of my head, i don't know. But there is a note out there for it on metalink. Let me ask this. Is there any reason not to go with 10gR2? 9iR2 is very close to a terminal release, I believe. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Stuart Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:14 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem Ann, I will look again, but the only version I could find was 9.2.0.1. Maybe that's part of my problem. Dave Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/7/2006 2:11 PM I remember being told by Oracle to install 9.2.0.4 (that 9.2.0.1 had issues). We installed 9.2.0.4 okay under SLES8. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Stuart Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:31 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem Evening, I am trying to install Oracle 9i (9.2.0.1) on SLES9 SP 3 running on an S/390 LPAR. I set all the environment variables, per the Install Guide, Setup Tasks for the Oracle User, and then execute runInstaller. I receive a message that the Java Environment is being initialized (IBMJava2-S390-131), with a path that points way down into the bowels of the unpacked installation files, and Please wait... It never returns. I an using redirected ssh (ssh -X ... ) via cygwin on a Win/XP Pro platform. YaST2 runs just fine (albeit slow), as does xclock. Any help is appreciated, Dave P.S. I resolved my 'Java Not Found' problem. I was trying to execute the wrong runInstaller... (egg on face). Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ** *** This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. ** *** -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: WAS on zAAP versus pSeries
On Friday, 12/08/2006 at 03:47 CST, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think there is a zAAP on the IFL side. IBM says zAAPs are the same price as IFLs, but they are not. You don't license software for zAAPs but you do for the IFLs. I also recall somewhere, where it was stated that if you had the processing to totally use an engine, that only about 40% would end up on the zAAP with the rest (non Java code) would be on a standard or IFL engine. But all that depends on your mix of Java vs non-Java code. zAAPs and IFLs don't go together. zAAPs go with CPs for z/OS offload of Java. The price of a zAAP is, I believe, the same as an IFL (US prices), but they do not increase the MSU size of the LPARs in which they appear. Consequently you get more capacity without a price increase in your z/OS software stack. As you note, only the JVM itself runs on the zAAP, so if you're not spending a lot of time in the JVM you won't see a lot of benefit. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: WAS on zAAP versus pSeries
IBM says zAAPs are the same price as IFLs, but they are not. You don't license software for zAAPs but you do for the IFLs. zAAPs, zIIPs, and IFLs have the same HARDWARE price. You don't pay for software on zAAPs and zIIPs, but you do pay for software (but as open prices, not z/OS prices) on IFLs. I also recall somewhere, where it was stated that if you had the processing to totally use an engine, that only about 40% would end up on the zAAP with the rest (non Java code) would be on a standard or IFL engine. But all that depends on your mix of Java vs non-Java code. You are confusing zAAPs and zIIPs. It is possible that up to 100% of your Java code running on z/OS could run on a zAAP. However that is up to the Workload Manager (WLM) which may decide that running some of the Java code on a CP will give better performance. However, for zIIPs WLM will ensure that no more than 40% of the DB2 workload gets offloaded to the zIIP. DB2 on z/OS is of course priced on capacity so IBM SWG wants to make at least 60% of what they were making without a zIIP. Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem
Because he's only got a 31-bit capable machine, I would suppose. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Little, Chris Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:38 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem -snip- Let me ask this. Is there any reason not to go with 10gR2? 9iR2 is very close to a terminal release, I believe. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: WAS on zAAP versus pSeries
Does anyone have an idea how running WebSphere Application Server on z/OS on a System z zAAP would compare to running it on x number of processors of a P595 at 1.9GHZ? Any good guesses on the value of x here? What if it was an IFL instead? Bob: This is a hard question to answer. A z9 EC processor runs at 1.75GHz but you can't really compare z9 GHz to p5 GHz (totally different chip designs). An IFL, a zAAP, and a CP run at the same speed (unless you have a sub-capacity CP). Of course it really depends on the total application. If you are doing a lot of I/O (say a database back-end), then a z9 will probably outperform a p5 with the same number of processors. If the application is compute bound (not likely), the a p5 will probably outperform at z9. z9 virtualizes (in the general sense of running multiple concurrent workloads) better than any other platform so if you are running lots of WAS images z9 will probably perform better. You really need to get IBM WAS people involved who can look at your workload and give you specific advise. Of course, talking to other customers who are running WAS on z9 is a great way to get an idea. There are lots of customers running WAS on both z9 and p5 so talk to your IBM rep to set up some calls with other customers! Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: WAS on zAAP versus pSeries
Jim, Then I am to understand that your guess is probably close to 1:1, all other things being equal and not exactly favoring the strengths of the particular platform? Your other advice is well-taken and I will suggest to the pSeries person that asked me the question in the first place that he follow-up with IBM on it. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 5:39 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: WAS on zAAP versus pSeries Does anyone have an idea how running WebSphere Application Server on z/OS on a System z zAAP would compare to running it on x number of processors of a P595 at 1.9GHZ? Any good guesses on the value of x here? What if it was an IFL instead? Bob: This is a hard question to answer. A z9 EC processor runs at 1.75GHz but you can't really compare z9 GHz to p5 GHz (totally different chip designs). An IFL, a zAAP, and a CP run at the same speed (unless you have a sub-capacity CP). Of course it really depends on the total application. If you are doing a lot of I/O (say a database back-end), then a z9 will probably outperform a p5 with the same number of processors. If the application is compute bound (not likely), the a p5 will probably outperform at z9. z9 virtualizes (in the general sense of running multiple concurrent workloads) better than any other platform so if you are running lots of WAS images z9 will probably perform better. You really need to get IBM WAS people involved who can look at your workload and give you specific advise. Of course, talking to other customers who are running WAS on z9 is a great way to get an idea. There are lots of customers running WAS on both z9 and p5 so talk to your IBM rep to set up some calls with other customers! Jim LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem
oh. missed that part. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:39 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem Because he's only got a 31-bit capable machine, I would suppose. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Little, Chris Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:38 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem -snip- Let me ask this. Is there any reason not to go with 10gR2? 9iR2 is very close to a terminal release, I believe. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem
On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 17:38:54 -0500 Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because he's only got a 31-bit capable machine, I would suppose. Actually you can run 64bit binaries on a 31 bit machine, but it gets a bit slow - run Hercules on your S/390 and Linux in 64bit on that. Just don't try and do anything hard. Alan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem
Chris, I don't have a 64-bit capable box, and from what I can find, 10gR2 is 64-bit only. I did see something that made me think that there might be a 31-bit version of 10gR1, but according to Oracle's certification matrix, 10g is 64-bit only. There is no 31-bit version. Dave Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/8/2006 1:37 PM That's it (maybe). Vanilla Oracle 9iR2 for mainframe linux requires 31bit SLES 8. There are two patches that are required to fix the oracle installer. What the patch numbers are off the top of my head, i don't know. But there is a note out there for it on metalink. Let me ask this. Is there any reason not to go with 10gR2? 9iR2 is very close to a terminal release, I believe. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Stuart Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:14 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem Ann, I will look again, but the only version I could find was 9.2.0.1. Maybe that's part of my problem. Dave Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/7/2006 2:11 PM I remember being told by Oracle to install 9.2.0.4 (that 9.2.0.1 had issues). We installed 9.2.0.4 okay under SLES8. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Stuart Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 7:31 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem Evening, I am trying to install Oracle 9i (9.2.0.1) on SLES9 SP 3 running on an S/390 LPAR. I set all the environment variables, per the Install Guide, Setup Tasks for the Oracle User, and then execute runInstaller. I receive a message that the Java Environment is being initialized (IBMJava2-S390-131), with a path that points way down into the bowels of the unpacked installation files, and Please wait... It never returns. I an using redirected ssh (ssh -X ... ) via cygwin on a Win/XP Pro platform. YaST2 runs just fine (albeit slow), as does xclock. Any help is appreciated, Dave P.S. I resolved my 'Java Not Found' problem. I was trying to execute the wrong runInstaller... (egg on face). Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ** *** This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. ** *** -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: WAS on zAAP versus pSeries
Jim, Thanks for clearing that up for Tom as I already understood the points. All of what has been posted, however, missed the point of my original question, which was all things being equal (meaning the same amount and type of JVM utilization on pSeries, IFLs, or zAAPs), how many pSeries 595 1.9GHz processors does it take to match the capacity or either the IFLs or the zAAPs executing the Java code? Are they 1:1, 2:1, 5:1, etc.? Bob Richards -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 5:32 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: WAS on zAAP versus pSeries IBM says zAAPs are the same price as IFLs, but they are not. You don't license software for zAAPs but you do for the IFLs. zAAPs, zIIPs, and IFLs have the same HARDWARE price. You don't pay for software on zAAPs and zIIPs, but you do pay for software (but as open prices, not z/OS prices) on IFLs. I also recall somewhere, where it was stated that if you had the processing to totally use an engine, that only about 40% would end up on the zAAP with the rest (non Java code) would be on a standard or IFL engine. But all that depends on your mix of Java vs non-Java code. You are confusing zAAPs and zIIPs. It is possible that up to 100% of your Java code running on z/OS could run on a zAAP. However that is up to the Workload Manager (WLM) which may decide that running some of the Java code on a CP will give better performance. However, for zIIPs WLM will ensure that no more than 40% of the DB2 workload gets offloaded to the zIIP. DB2 on z/OS is of course priced on capacity so IBM SWG wants to make at least 60% of what they were making without a zIIP. Jim LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
