Oracle RAC
Has anyone tried setting up an Oracle RAC installation? It is documented in the new Oracle/zLinux Redbook, just wondering what experiences anyone had. Thanks, RF -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Restarting DB2 and WAS with crontab
We are Suse9,Z/VM 5.2 shop. I'm having a small problem and am wondering if someone can help me out. I've written / integrated some scripts to bring down DB2,WAS,CM, then backup/zip the files up ,and restart the systems. All the scripts work fine separately and together if I'm am logged on as root, but if I submit the same script using crontab everything BUT the startup works. What happens is the system looks as if everything is up(per the task count) but we are unable to log on to our DB using WAS. All we then do is su into root run the startup procedure and everything works. All the proper calls /paths are in the scripts and I have even placed roots' path in the path stmt in /etc/crontab. I'm really at a loss. thanks Larry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle RAC
> Has anyone tried setting up an Oracle RAC installation? It is > documented in the new Oracle/zLinux Redbook, just wondering > what experiences anyone had. Thanks, RF Robert: I had a customer do this early this year, more for testing than anything else. It works quite well with one note: Use an active/passive configuration ONLY if you have only one IFL. If you have more than one IFL then you can use an active/active configuration. This especially true when doing a database load as an active/active configuration ends up swapping between the two Linux images for every record loaded. Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
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From: Leon Buitendag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Linux Streams (LiS) > Hi, I am planning on installing Communicaton server for Linux, > however I according to the documentation I need to install LiS > first, however this is where I run into problems: Leon: The CommServer for Linux developers hang out on the nntp://news.software.ibm.com server in the ibm.software.commserver.linux group. That is probably the best place for you to get a fast and accurate answer. PS: I have a customer running CS for Linux on SLES10 on z with no problems. Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Restarting DB2 and WAS with crontab
On Tuesday 23 October 2007 09:44, LJ Mace wrote: >We are Suse9,Z/VM 5.2 shop. >I'm having a small problem and am wondering if someone >can help me out. >I've written / integrated some scripts to bring down >DB2,WAS,CM, then backup/zip the files up ,and restart >the systems. >All the scripts work fine separately and together if >I'm am logged on as root, but if I submit the same >script using crontab everything BUT the startup works. >What happens is the system looks as if everything is >up(per the task count) but we are unable to log on to >our DB using WAS. > All we then do is su into root run the startup >procedure and everything works. >All the proper calls /paths are in the scripts and I >have even placed roots' path in the path stmt in >/etc/crontab. THis sounds like a difference in the process environments. When you log in, /etc/profile and a number of other scripts are run for you and these set up many environment variables. But when a cron job is started, none of that setup occurs. You can either make your scripts source those startup files, or figure out which environment variables are not getting set and run those. Because this is DB2, the most likely thing that is not getting run is the $HOME/db2profile script. This sets up a number of environment variables that DB2 requires to do anything, such as DB2INSTANCE. Try putting this command at the beginning of your script: source $HOME/db2profile and see if that doesn't fix things. If not, use env(1) to dump out your environment when logged in and from the cron job, and compare the two. - MacK. - Edmund R. MacKenty Software Architect Rocket Software, Inc. Newton, MA USA -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Is anyone connecting to a Hitachi SAN-box with FCP NPiV?
We wanted to connect to our SAN-box using FCP NPiV for either open-systems server storage (using TSM) or to implement the new GDPS function of DR-mirroring the open-systems storage. However, the IBM representative we talked to said that they couldn't support us if we ran into any problems (either with connectivity or possibly data corruption) unless we were connecting to an IBM box. It kinda scared us off the idea. Is anyone successfully using non-IBM storage (especially Hitachi) with FCP NPiV? Shannon Collinson l Mainframe Operating Systems l ETI l SunTrust Banks l 404.827.6070 (office) l 404.642.1280 (mobile) Seeing beyond money (sm) LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Restarting DB2 and WAS with crontab
We are currently running scripts through /etc/init.d/rcX, which, I realize, is something different, but we also run as wasadmin using a stored userID and password. Here is the script we use, although ultimately simple, it works. Not sure what the CM product is. We have DB2 and WAS on separate Suse 9 images. DB2 is one image at present, and WAS is a cluster of 3 with a shared binaries image and one deployment manager server. echo "Starting IBM Websphere Application Server on Linux11.." su - wasadmin -c /wasprofiles/profile/Linux11Custom/bin/startNode.sh; su - wasadmin -c "/wasprofiles/profile/Linux11Custom/bin/startServer.sh linux11AppSrv01;" echo "... start up complete for Websphere Application Server on Linux11"; exit 0 echo "Stopping IBM Websphere Application Server on Linux11..."; su - wasadmin -c "/wasprofiles/profile/Linux11Custom/bin/stopServer.sh linux11AppSrv01;" su - wasadmin -c "/wasprofiles/profile/Linux11Custom/bin/stopNode.sh;" echo "... shutdown complete for Websphere Application Server on Linux11"; exit 0 DM is simply stopManager.sh Daryl On 10/23/07, LJ Mace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are Suse9,Z/VM 5.2 shop. > I'm having a small problem and am wondering if someone > can help me out. > I've written / integrated some scripts to bring down > DB2,WAS,CM, then backup/zip the files up ,and restart > the systems. > All the scripts work fine separately and together if > I'm am logged on as root, but if I submit the same > script using crontab everything BUT the startup works. > What happens is the system looks as if everything is > up(per the task count) but we are unable to log on to > our DB using WAS. > All we then do is su into root run the startup > procedure and everything works. > All the proper calls /paths are in the scripts and I > have even placed roots' path in the path stmt in > /etc/crontab. > I'm really at a loss. > thanks > Larry > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- Daryl R. Hoffman System Administrator Administrative Information Systems The Pennsylvania State University Cell/Home: 814-441-9448 Work: 814-863-3829 Website: http://www.personal.psu.edu/drh4 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Is anyone connecting to a Hitachi SAN-box with FCP NPiV?
We're getting ready to try it with EMC DMX. IBM has been very supportive, but we have a contract with them. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Collinson.Shannon Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:22 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [LINUX-390] Is anyone connecting to a Hitachi SAN-box with FCP NPiV? We wanted to connect to our SAN-box using FCP NPiV for either open-systems server storage (using TSM) or to implement the new GDPS function of DR-mirroring the open-systems storage. However, the IBM representative we talked to said that they couldn't support us if we ran into any problems (either with connectivity or possibly data corruption) unless we were connecting to an IBM box. It kinda scared us off the idea. Is anyone successfully using non-IBM storage (especially Hitachi) with FCP NPiV? Shannon Collinson l Mainframe Operating Systems l ETI l SunTrust Banks l 404.827.6070 (office) l 404.642.1280 (mobile) Seeing beyond money (sm) LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and delete it. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Merrill Lynch. Subject to applicable law, Merrill Lynch may monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.ml.com/e-communications_terms/. By messaging with Merrill Lynch you consent to the foregoing. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Is anyone connecting to a Hitachi SAN-box with FCP NPiV?
We are using EMC DMX and EMC Clariion for SAN. SLES9 and SLES10- no issues. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Collinson.Shannon Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:22 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Is anyone connecting to a Hitachi SAN-box with FCP NPiV? We wanted to connect to our SAN-box using FCP NPiV for either open-systems server storage (using TSM) or to implement the new GDPS function of DR-mirroring the open-systems storage. However, the IBM representative we talked to said that they couldn't support us if we ran into any problems (either with connectivity or possibly data corruption) unless we were connecting to an IBM box. It kinda scared us off the idea. Is anyone successfully using non-IBM storage (especially Hitachi) with FCP NPiV? Shannon Collinson l Mainframe Operating Systems l ETI l SunTrust Banks l 404.827.6070 (office) l 404.642.1280 (mobile) Seeing beyond money (sm) LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. * -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle RAC
> Has anyone tried setting up an Oracle RAC installation? It is documented > in the new Oracle/zLinux Redbook, just wondering what experiences anyone > had. Thanks, RF Works as documented, or as well as RAC ever does. For it to be any use for survivability, you really need to do it in a CSE environment with two systems or LPARs and split the cluster members across the two instances. Shared DASD is necessary, which is complicated to set up and maintain with FCP disk. Networking really needs to do layer 2 VSWITCH with VLANs managed by goodly sized switches between the machines to do the heartbeats efficiently. Short version: it's as much of a PITA to manage as RAC is on discrete systems. Given that the underlying infrastructure (CSE, VM, System Z) is orders of magnitude more reliable and stable than the discrete system approach, it's probably overkill for anything short of absolutely critical systems (which, IMHO, are the principal justifying reason for z/OS parallel sysplexes, and once you have a parallel sysplex in play, we're talking about a whole 'nother level of RAS, and RAC is pretty pathetic in that arena). -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: CUPS -- was Re: Philosophical: Linux vs. AIX
Patrick Spinler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Summerfield wrote: I can understand that if you're running Ghostscript, then you're in for some trouble. No ghostscript, thank heavens. We just provide a dumb queuing service, and send whatever the app produces straight to the printer. No filtering. I think you'd need to pay close attention to how (often) the CUPS servers talk to each other, too. If they're discussing 10,000 printers every few seconds. The default browseinterval is 30 seconds, that might be a little often. the problem appeared to be related to this, but not between the CUPS servers. Specifically, since CUPS' default broadcast behavior doesn't work across subnets, and since most of my hosts wanting to print to CUPS weren't on those subnets, the client hosts had to be configured to poll, and that broke the cups servers. Our setup was like this: Network Network Network Network Network many many Printer Printer Printer Printer Printer others... Cups ServerCups ServerCups Server Subnet 1 Subnet 2 Subnet 3 Other Unix Other Unix Other Unix 400 other Cups clientCups ClientCups Clientunix hosts. Subnet 4 Subnet 5 Subnet 6 >20 subnets Since broadcasts only propagate as far as a subnet boundary, the 'other hosts' would not see the broadcasts from the cups servers. Ergo, they had to be configured to poll the servers, and that's what appeared to break 'em, even on a several hour polling interval. For those who haven't been around so long, I don't actually use zLinux (except sometimes under Hercules, and that's about as close as I'm likely to get to a Zed these days). I do administer Linux systems, and I have some S/360, S/370 background. My home LAN and the LAN I administer at home are linked via VPN, and we too use several subnets. At one time I wanted to print something from home to work, so I had CUPS at home poll work's server, and suddenly all work's printers appeared at home! -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: CUPS -- was Re: Philosophical: Linux vs. AIX
David Boyes wrote: There's no harm to installing both CUPS server and client code on each host. If you never define a printer on the host, the server is quiet and this is what Apple does, and it's why I have CUPS on my Powerbook G4. It's also probably the reason Apple bought CUPS. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Philosophical: Linux vs. AIX
David Boyes wrote: We use LPRng instead of CUPS because of CUPS' chattyness. We have literally thousands of printers defined (over 7000) and the printcap defining these printers is installed on over 100 servers. CUPS would overrun our network. CUPS is a great design for a desktop client and one or two printers; it really fails when you attempt to scale it up to an actual server level. Chattyness is completely adjustable. It's a CUPS tuning and filtering question. Send me a copy of your config, and I can probably help. Might be good to make this a kind of tutorial. There seem to be a few here who could use some tips, people being what they are, likely not all those who do will step up and say so. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Philosophical: Linux vs. AIX & real unixes
Adam Thornton wrote: Carey Tyler Schug wrote: Don't smoke your cigar yet. At least on Ubuntu, which is derived from Debian, ps --forest only shows the tree back as far as the last shell, which comes AFTER the script, so it doesn't show the script process. Mine shows me back as far as the login shell: Last login: Mon Oct 22 08:46:58 2007 from 192.168.1.79 services:~ $ bash -l services:~ $ bash -l services:~ $ bash -l services:~ $ ps --forest PID TTY TIME CMD 32268 pts/000:00:00 bash 32270 pts/000:00:00 \_ bash 32272 pts/000:00:00 \_ bash 32273 pts/000:00:00 \_ bash 32276 pts/000:00:00 \_ ps services:~ $ ps --version procps version 3.2.1 For a different view... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ps --forest PID TTY TIME CMD 4824 pts/900:00:00 bash 5186 pts/900:00:00 \_ ps [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ps -H PID TTY TIME CMD 4824 pts/900:00:00 bash 5189 pts/900:00:00 ps [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux Streams (LiS)
Leon Buitendag wrote: Hi, I am planning on installing Communicaton server for Linux, however I according to the documentation I need to install LiS first, however this is where I run into problems: I currently have SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10 with SP1 installed. I have downloaded LiS-2.18.0.tgz unpacked it and applied the recommended patch. The make was done and the make install, however when I try to do the modprobe streams I get the following errors: Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: streams: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: streams: module not supported by Novell, setting U taint flag. Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: Unable to handle kernel pointer dereference at virtual kernel address 000200311000 Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: Oops: 003b [#1] Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: CPU:0Tainted: GFU Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: Process modprobe (pid: 20505, task: 000179cc7768, ksp: 000160657b38) Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: Krnl PSW : 070420018000 000200311740 (0x200311740) Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: Krnl GPRS: 0001812f5600 00018122e1d6 Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel:000160657cd8 0001 00010001 001c Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel:000181252500 000181252500 00506e78 00506e78 Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel:00506e98 000181229d60 0001812261a6 000160657c38 Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: Krnl Code: Bad PSW. Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: Call Trace: Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: ([<001c>] 0x1c) Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: Any help would be appreciated Perhaps you should use the supplier's help fora, probably there are more experts to me. I suspect this means Novell won't (officially) help: > Oct 22 15:07:25 lnx1 kernel: streams: no version for "struct_module" found: > kernel tainted. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SAN NAS
People here have shown forbearance before, so I'll test my luck again;-) I know both provide disk storage on a network, and one's higher-performance than the other, but When is a Tb of storage a NAS and when is it a SAN? -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SAN NAS
A NAS acts like a file server. It contains its own filesystem and usually connects to a LAN, not a dedicated network. Often a NAS communicates to the client using SMB, and NFS. Many of the lower cost NAS are just a Windows system that does not let you log into it. A SAN does not have a filesystem. It serves disk space over a dedicated network. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:13 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: SAN NAS People here have shown forbearance before, so I'll test my luck again;-) I know both provide disk storage on a network, and one's higher-performance than the other, but When is a Tb of storage a NAS and when is it a SAN? -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email from the State of California is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review or use, including disclosure or distribution, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of this email. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SAN NAS
On Oct 23, 2007, at 6:12 PM, John Summerfield wrote: People here have shown forbearance before, so I'll test my luck again;-) I know both provide disk storage on a network, and one's higher-performance than the other, but When is a Tb of storage a NAS and when is it a SAN? The difference, roughly, is whether your data is presented as files or as blocks. NAS tends to be some sort of storage appliance that presents an NFS (or SMB, or other network filesystem) interface to the data, while SAN is generally presented as a block device. SAN is less likely to use IP as the transport, though certainly there are things like iSCSI. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SAN NAS
Connectivity method and transport protocols. NAS are attached via data networking technologies such as IP or other data network transport protocols, usually employing standard networking equipment used for ordinary networking transports. Usually gig Ethernet over fiber or copper with dedicated segments for storage traffic. SANs are accessed via storage networking techniques which do not involve IP or other data network transport protocols and use specialized switching equipment optimized for storage networking protocols. It's arguable whether performance is any different these days (in fact, with multipath links, NAS may be faster these days). From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of John Summerfield Sent: Tue 10/23/2007 7:12 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: SAN NAS People here have shown forbearance before, so I'll test my luck again;-) I know both provide disk storage on a network, and one's higher-performance than the other, but When is a Tb of storage a NAS and when is it a SAN? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390