Re: Quest re: Subversion on SLES 11.0

2009-08-28 Thread Jack Woehr

Mark Post wrote:
On 8/28/2009 at  4:05 PM, Jack Woehr  wrote: 

No one actually does this in the "real" open source Unix world.



I do.  It's not all that hard, once you accept the idea that you're now a Linux 
developer, not a Linux user.  That means installing a lot of packages you might 
not normally have, among other things.


  
Well, I've done it too, literally hundreds of times, probably thousands. 
Must be over a thousand.


But that was mostly in the 1990's and early 2000's, that manual download 
of the dependencies.
No civilized operating system requires that any more in the Open Source 
world.

for the learning experience or a personal kinkiness :)

There's a "ports" kinda thingy for Ubuntu Linux. 'ports' itself should 
be ported to the
Linux on z. That will build Subversion and all the dependencies. If you 
really feel

compelled to learn more, redirect, capture and read the output of the build.

Honestly, it' s been at least 6 years since most Linux/Solaris/BSD 
developers gave up downloading
manually and building manually huge Open Source dependency chains.  
*It's not an economic use of

one's time* now that porting is automated.

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Re: Quest re: Subversion on SLES 11.0

2009-08-28 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/28/2009 at  4:05 PM, Jack Woehr  wrote: 
-snip-
> No one actually does this in the "real" open source Unix world.

I do.  It's not all that hard, once you accept the idea that you're now a Linux 
developer, not a Linux user.  That means installing a lot of packages you might 
not normally have, among other things.


Mark Post

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Re: Quest re: Subversion on SLES 11.0

2009-08-28 Thread Jack Woehr

Jack Woehr wrote:

Michael --

1. I issue './configure...' to configure Subversion.


Oops forgot the makefile.  Here it is.

You are to be commended. One never understands an open source system 
until one builds it from

scratch, every component, every tool.

Go get 'em!!

# $OpenBSD: Makefile,v 1.44 2008/02/22 19:16:49 naddy Exp $

COMMENT-main=subversion revision control system
COMMENT-perl=perl interface to subversion
COMMENT-python=python interface to subversion
COMMENT-ruby=ruby interface to subversion
COMMENT-ap2=apache2 subversion modules

VERSION=1.4.4
DISTNAME=subversion-${VERSION}
PKGNAME=${DISTNAME}
PKGNAME-main=${DISTNAME}
PKGNAME-perl=p5-SVN-${VERSION}
PKGNAME-python=py-subversion-${VERSION}p1
PKGNAME-ruby=ruby-subversion-${VERSION}p1
PKGNAME-ap2=ap2-subversion-${VERSION}

SO_VERSION=1.0
SVN_LIBS=svn_client-1 svn_delta-1 svn_diff-1 svn_fs-1 \
   svn_fs_base-1 svn_fs_fs-1 svn_ra-1 svn_ra_dav-1 \
   svn_ra_local-1 svn_ra_svn-1 svn_repos-1 svn_subr-1 svn_wc-1
.for _lib in ${SVN_LIBS} svn_swig_perl-1 svn_swig_py-1 svn_swig_ruby-1
SHARED_LIBS+=${_lib} ${SO_VERSION}
.endfor

CATEGORIES=devel

HOMEPAGE=http://subversion.tigris.org/

MAINTAINER=Sigfred Haversen 

# BSD alike + Apache License 2.0
PERMIT_PACKAGE_CDROM=Yes
PERMIT_PACKAGE_FTP=Yes
PERMIT_DISTFILES_CDROM=Yes
PERMIT_DISTFILES_FTP=Yes

MASTER_SITES=${HOMEPAGE}/tarballs/

PSEUDO_FLAVORS=no_bindings no_ap2
FLAVOR?=

MODULES=devel/gettext

WANTLIB=apr-1 expat db z

LIB_DEPENDS=neon.>=24:neon->=0.24.7:net/neon \
   aprutil-1::devel/apr-util

MULTI_PACKAGES=-main

WANTLIB-main=${WANTLIB} c crypto m ssl xml2
RUN_DEPENDS-main= ${MODGETTEXT_RUN_DEPENDS}

.if !${FLAVOR:L:Mno_ap2}
MULTI_PACKAGES+=-ap2
WANTLIB-ap2=${WANTLIB} iconv aprutil-1 expat
LIB_DEPENDS-ap2=${MODGETTEXT_LIB_DEPENDS}
.  for _lib in svn_delta-1 svn_fs-1 svn_fs_base-1 svn_fs_fs-1 \
   svn_repos-1 svn_subr-1
LIB_DEPENDS-ap2+=
${_lib}.>=${SO_VERSION}:subversion-${VERSION}:devel/subversion,-main

BUILD_DEPENDS+=::www/apache-httpd
RUN_DEPENDS-ap2=::www/apache-httpd
.  endfor
.endif

.if !${FLAVOR:L:Mno_bindings}
MULTI_PACKAGES+=-perl -python -ruby
SHARED_ONLY=Yes

WANTLIB-perl=${WANTLIB} aprutil-1
RUN_DEPENDS-perl=${MODGETTEXT_RUN_DEPENDS}
LIB_DEPENDS-perl=${MODGETTEXT_LIB_DEPENDS}
.  for _lib in svn_diff-1 svn_ra-1 svn_delta-1 svn_subr-1 svn_fs-1 \
   svn_repos-1 svn_wc-1 svn_client-1
LIB_DEPENDS-perl+=
${_lib}.>=${SO_VERSION}:subversion-${VERSION}:devel/subversion,-main

.  endfor

WANTLIB-python=${WANTLIB} crypto m ssl neon xml2 aprutil-1
RUN_DEPENDS-python=${MODPY_RUN_DEPENDS}
LIB_DEPENDS-python=${MODPY_LIB_DEPENDS} ${MODGETTEXT_LIB_DEPENDS}
.  for _lib in ${SVN_LIBS}
LIB_DEPENDS-python+=
${_lib}.>=${SO_VERSION}:subversion-${VERSION}:devel/subversion,-main

.  endfor

WANTLIB-ruby=${WANTLIB} crypto expat m ssl neon xml2 aprutil-1
RUN_DEPENDS-ruby=${MODRUBY_RUN_DEPENDS}
LIB_DEPENDS-ruby=${MODGETTEXT_LIB_DEPENDS}
.  for _lib in ${SVN_LIBS}
LIB_DEPENDS-ruby+=
${_lib}.>=${SO_VERSION}:subversion-${VERSION}:devel/subversion,-main

.  endfor

MODULES+=lang/ruby lang/python
BUILD_DEPENDS+=::devel/swig
.endif

USE_LIBTOOL=Yes
SEPARATE_BUILD=simple
CONFIGURE_STYLE=gnu
CONFIGURE_ENV=PYTHON2=${MODPY_BIN}
CONFIGURE_ARGS+=${CONFIGURE_SHARED} \
   --with-neon=${LOCALBASE} \
   --with-apr=${LOCALBASE} \
   --with-apr-util=${LOCALBASE} \
   --with-zlib \
   --without-jdk
.if !${FLAVOR:L:Mno_bindings}
CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--enable-swig-bindings=perl,python,ruby \
   --with-swig=${LOCALBASE}
.else
CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--disable-swig-bindings \
   --without-swig
.endif

.if !${FLAVOR:L:Mno_ap2}
CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--with-apxs=${LOCALBASE}/sbin/apxs2
.else
CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--without-apxs
.endif

REGRESS_DEPENDS=::lang/python/${MODPY_VERSION}
MODPY_VERSION?=2.5

pre-configure:
   @perl -pi -e "s,!!LOCALBASE!!,${LOCALBASE}," ${WRKSRC}/configure
   @perl -pi -e "s,!!MODPY_VERSION!!,${MODPY_VERSION}," ${WRKSRC}/configure

pre-build:
   @perl -pi -e "s,!!MODPY_VERSION!!,${MODPY_VERSION}," 
${WRKBUILD}/Makefile


.if !${FLAVOR:L:Mno_bindings}
REGRESS_DEPENDS+=::devel/p5-IO-String \
   :${PKGNAME-python}:devel/subversion,-python \
   :${PKGNAME-ruby}:devel/subversion,-ruby

post-build:
   @cd ${WRKBUILD} && ${SETENV} ${MAKE_ENV} ${MAKE_PROGRAM} \
   ${MAKE_FLAGS} swig-py
   @cd ${WRKBUILD} && ${SETENV} ${MAKE_ENV} ${MAKE_PROGRAM} \
   ${MAKE_FLAGS} swig-pl
   @cd ${WRKBUILD} && ${SETENV} ${MAKE_ENV} ${MAKE_PROGRAM} \
   ${MAKE_FLAGS} swig-rb

do-regress:
   @cd ${WRKBUILD} && ${SETENV} ${MAKE_ENV} ${MAKE_PROGRAM} \
   ${ALL_REGRESS_FLAGS} check FS_TYPE=bdb
   @cd ${WRKBUILD} && ${SETENV} ${MAKE_ENV} ${MAKE_PROGRAM} \
   ${ALL_REGRESS_FLAGS} check FS_TYPE=fsfs
   @cd ${WRKBUILD} && ${SETENV} ${MAKE_ENV} ${MAKE_PROGRAM} 

Re: Quest re: Subversion on SLES 11.0

2009-08-28 Thread Jack Woehr

Michael --

1. I issue './configure...' to configure Subversion.
 './configure...' stops and tell me that the configure/make for
'zlib' had errors.
I 'cd' to the zlib directory 

.. etc.

Your experience is normal if you build Subversion by hand.

No one actually does this in the "real" open source Unix world.

We have system like OpenBSD "ports" system that have compound makefiles 
to download

and build the *dependencies*.

Attached at the end of this email, just as an example of how it is done, 
is the (heavily macroized)
'make' file in the ports tree of OpenBSD for Subversion. It won't work 
on your system but it
really shows how it works. The macros are "literate programming" enough 
you should grok the

intent easily enough.

My recommendation:

  1. Build Subversion from scratch using the ports system from OpenBSD
 or a Macintosh
 * OpenBSD has ports builtin
 * get on the web the Darwin project 'ports' tool to do this
   for Mac
  2. Redirect the output of the 'ports' run to a text file and study.

Mainframe Linuxers need for their sanity to have a couple of open source 
operating
systems on cheap PC's, maybe several under some pc virtualization 
system. It really
speeds up self-taught problem-solving if you have several open source 
OS'es handy

to try things on until something works in a very revealing manner.

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Re: Quest re: Subversion on SLES 11.0

2009-08-28 Thread Michael Simms
Thanks Samir, for your input. I appreciate any help I can get.

Regards,
Michael



From: Samir Reddahi 
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:04:24 AM
Subject: Re: Quest re: Subversion on SLES 11.0

 
I've recently built subversion
1.6 from source on a SLES10 SP2 user. I installed the following packages: 

Autoconf 
Libtool 
Gcc 
Libapr 
Libapr-util 
Sqlite-amalgamation 3.6 (build
from source) 
Libneon 0.28(build from source):
Dependency: automake 
Python-devel 
Pkg-config 
Serf (build from source): Dependencies:
ldapcpp-devel, Zlib and Openssl-devel 

I made the build with these commands: 
Sh autogen.sh 
./configure –with-apxs=/usr/bin/apxs2
–with-sqlite=/subversion/sqlite-3.6.16/sqlite3.c 
Make 
Make install 

I hope this helps 


Samir Reddahi

www.securex.be
 



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I have been trying to install a  package called
Subversion. Since I could not find a binary for SuSE SLES 11 on zVM, I
am attempting to compile it from scratch by doing a './configure' and
then 'make'. Wow, what a mess. I must be missing some trick or knowledge.
Has anybody done this? And, if so, would you have any advice for all the
'pre-installed software package requisites' that is required? By this I
mean as an example the following scenario:

1. I issue './configure...' to configure Subversion.
'./configure...' stops and tell me that the
configure/make for 'zlib' had errors.
   I 'cd' to the zlib directory
and issue a ./configure. Seems good.
   I do a make. It
seems good as well.
2. So we are  back at the './configure...' for Subversion.
   Subversion stops, telling me that 'Serf' has
erred on it's './configure'.
   'Serf' is missing an 'APR' type
package. I down load and untar it.
   I 'cd' to this
APR package lib.
   I issue ./configure/make
and for this package, it seems to have gone well.
   So we are now back at the 'Serf'
./configure/make.
   I do the ./configure
manually. Looks good.
   I do the 'make'.
It seems good.
3. Once again, we are back at the Subversion level. I continue on with
the './configure'
   All seems well.
4. Let's say for arguments sake I have completed the './configure...' without
too many errors, at least none that are critical (I think).
   Now I key in the 'make'.  Package missing.
   I download the package and untar it.
   I 'cd' to it's directory. I do
the './configure'. Errors.
   Needs 'x-package-of-some-sort'.
I download it.
   Go thru the procedures
shown above, you know, the configure/make process.
5. I  finally get back to the Subversion 'make' process again.
   We begin where it erred off before.
etc,
etc,
etc,
etc,
etc,
etc.

Do you get my drift? It just seems like I'm spinning my wheels. I've already
installed all that the Subversion documents told me before I even began,
and yet, there are still many, many more packages that I find out about
while going through the ./configure...' and build processes, since as I
established before, there are no binaries that I can find for Subversion,
on SuSE SLES11, on zSeries.
I've got to be doing something wrong, yes?
HELP :-)
I don't really know whether I am on the correct path and I just need to
have patience and see it through, or?Any help or guidance would be so 
appreciated.
Regards,
Michael



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Re: Linux Processor Support

2009-08-28 Thread Hans-Joachim Picht
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:02:07AM -0600, Mark Post wrote:
> >>> On 8/28/2009 at  8:24 AM, "Billy R. Bingham" 
> >>> 
> wrote:
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > Is there a central site that lists the different versions/distros of Linux
> > for System z and what processors they support or will run on?

[]

> I can't say for sure about Fedora for System z.  It's pretty recent, so it
> may only run on z/Architecture systems.

Fedora for System z runs on z/Architecture up to z10.
Binaries are compilied to run on z9 and z10 only.

With best regards,

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Re: Linux Processor Support

2009-08-28 Thread Adam Thornton

On Aug 28, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Mark Post wrote:


On 8/28/2009 at  8:24 AM, "Billy R. Bingham" 

wrote:

Greetings all,

Is there a central site that lists the different versions/distros
of Linux
for System z and what processors they support or will run on?


SLES9, RHEL 3 and 4, G5 and up to z10.
SLES10, RHEL 5, z/Architecture up to z10.
SLES11, z/Architecture up to z10, but only z9 and z10 are officially
supported.

Slack/390, Debian/390 will run on anything from G5 up to a z10, but
only in 31-bit mode.  Slack/390 will be getting 64-bit as soon as I
can get the time to work on the installer some more.  Everything
else is done.



Next release of Debian may drop 31-bit support, and will offer 64-bit
support.  There seems to be some debate about whether to do a biarch
release or separate s390 and s390x right now, although I haven't been
tracking that discussion as keenly as I used to.

Adam

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Re: Linux Processor Support

2009-08-28 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/28/2009 at  8:24 AM, "Billy R. Bingham" 
>>> 
wrote: 
> Greetings all,
> 
> Is there a central site that lists the different versions/distros of Linux 
> for System z and what processors they support or will run on?

SLES9, RHEL 3 and 4, G5 and up to z10.
SLES10, RHEL 5, z/Architecture up to z10.
SLES11, z/Architecture up to z10, but only z9 and z10 are officially supported.

Slack/390, Debian/390 will run on anything from G5 up to a z10, but only in 
31-bit mode.  Slack/390 will be getting 64-bit as soon as I can get the time to 
work on the installer some more.  Everything else is done.

CentOS had both 31-bit and 64-bit support, but people working on the mainframe 
version seemed to have stopped.  I can't find a version that is as current as 
the other architectures.

I can't say for sure about Fedora for System z.  It's pretty recent, so it may 
only run on z/Architecture systems.


Mark Post

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Re: PHP to DB2 connection

2009-08-28 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 8/28/2009 at 10:05 AM, "Jones, Russell"  wrote: 
> I have downloaded the SUSE 10 source and I see a bunch of src.rpm files
> but I do not see any .spec files that you mentioned previously.

If you install the .src.rpm, it will put all the source files and patches in 
/usr/src/packages/SOURCES and the .spec file in /usr/src/packages/SPECS.


Mark Post

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Re: SLES 11 YaST Control Center, select System > LVM

2009-08-28 Thread Mike Friesenegger
Hello Steve,

I found this statement in section 4.6.  This is incorrect in the SLES11 Storage 
Administration Guide.  It should say something like  "In the YaST Control 
Center, select System > Partitioner."

I will follow-up with the documentation team to fix this.

HTH,

Mike Friesenegger


>>> On 8/28/2009 at 05:24 AM, in message
<289ff15aedd6e642a8d47ff5a2ecb3d50477e...@00172msgjnb1014.za.sbicdirectory.com>,
"Kowalski, Steve S"  wrote: 
> Hello,
> 
> The manual for SLES 11: Storage Administration Guide, March 2009, page
> 24, states: "In the YaST Control Center, select System > LVM."
> 
> This option (LVM) does is not displayed on SLES 11 in the YaST Control
> Center, System.
> 
> What I am doing wrong?
> Who can explain this event?
> 
> Thank you very much in advance.
> Have a nice weekend,
> Steve Kowalski
> PS. This option does exist in SLES 10 sp1
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Re: PHP to DB2 connection

2009-08-28 Thread Jones, Russell
I have downloaded the SUSE 10 source and I see a bunch of src.rpm files
but I do not see any .spec files that you mentioned previously.

Russell Jones 
ANPAC
System Programmer Trainee
rjo...@anpac.com


-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:45 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: PHP to DB2 connection

>>> On 8/27/2009 at 12:56 PM, "Jones, Russell" 
wrote: 
> How do I get the Novell RPM source? Web site? Installation CD? I'm not
> sure I'll know it when I see it. 

http://www.novell.com/linux/source/


Mark Post

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Re: Quest re: Subversion on SLES 11.0

2009-08-28 Thread Samir Reddahi
I've recently built subversion 1.6 from source on a SLES10 SP2 user. I 
installed the following packages:

Autoconf
Libtool
Gcc
Libapr
Libapr-util
Sqlite-amalgamation 3.6 (build from source)
Libneon 0.28(build from source): Dependency: automake
Python-devel
Pkg-config
Serf (build from source): Dependencies: ldapcpp-devel, Zlib and 
Openssl-devel

I made the build with these commands:
Sh autogen.sh
./configure –with-apxs=/usr/bin/apxs2 
–with-sqlite=/subversion/sqlite-3.6.16/sqlite3.c
Make
Make install

I hope this helps


Samir Reddahi

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I have been trying to install a  package called Subversion. Since I could 
not find a binary for SuSE SLES 11 on zVM, I am attempting to compile it 
from scratch by doing a './configure' and then 'make'. Wow, what a 
mess. I must be missing some trick or knowledge. Has anybody done this? 
And, if so, would you have any advice for all the 'pre-installed software 
package requisites' that is required? By this I mean as an example the 
following scenario:

1. I issue './configure...' to configure Subversion.
 './configure...' stops and tell me that the configure/make for 
'zlib' had errors.
I 'cd' to the zlib directory and issue a ./configure. Seems 
good.
I do a make. It seems good as well.
2. So we are  back at the './configure...' for Subversion.
Subversion stops, telling me that 'Serf' has erred on it's 
'./configure'.
'Serf' is missing an 'APR' type package. I down load and untar 
it.
I 'cd' to this APR package lib.
I issue ./configure/make and for this package, it seems to 
have gone well.
So we are now back at the 'Serf' ./configure/make.
I do the ./configure manually. Looks good.
I do the 'make'. It seems good.
3. Once again, we are back at the Subversion level. I continue on with the 
'./configure'
All seems well.
4. Let's say for arguments sake I have completed the './configure...' 
without too many errors, at least none that are critical (I think).
Now I key in the 'make'.  Package missing.
I download the package and untar it.
I 'cd' to it's directory. I do the './configure'. Errors.
Needs 'x-package-of-some-sort'. I download it.
Go thru the procedures shown above, you know, the 
configure/make process.
5. I  finally get back to the Subversion 'make' process again.
We begin where it erred off before.
etc,
etc,
etc,
etc,
etc,
etc.

Do you get my drift? It just seems like I'm spinning my wheels. I've 
already installed all that the Subversion documents told me before I even 
began, and yet, there are still many, many more packages that I find out 
about while going through the ./configure...' and build processes, since 
as I established before, there are no binaries that I can find for 
Subversion, on SuSE SLES11, on zSeries.
I've got to be doing something wrong, yes?
HELP :-)
I don't really know whether I am on the correct path and I just need to 
have patience and see it through, or?Any help or guidance would be so 
appreciated.
Regards,
Michael



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Re: Quest re: Subversion on SLES 11.0

2009-08-28 Thread Michael Simms
Yes, 1.6 is the version was trying to install.





From: "Shockley, Gerard C" 
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:03:59 PM
Subject: Re: Quest re: Subversion on SLES 11.0


What version are you attempting to install. 1.6?


Gerard

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Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:27 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Quest re: Subversion on SLES 11.0

I have been trying to install a  package called Subversion. Since I
could not find a binary for SuSE SLES 11 on zVM, I am attempting to
compile it from scratch by doing a './configure' and then 'make'.
Wow, what a mess. I must be missing some trick or knowledge. Has anybody
done this? And, if so, would you have any advice for all the
'pre-installed software package requisites' that is required? By this I
mean as an example the following scenario:

1. I issue './configure...' to configure Subversion.
 './configure...' stops and tell me that the configure/make for
'zlib' had errors.
I 'cd' to the zlib directory and issue a ./configure. Seems
good.
I do a make. It seems good as well.
2. So we are  back at the './configure...' for Subversion.
Subversion stops, telling me that 'Serf' has erred on it's
'./configure'.
'Serf' is missing an 'APR' type package. I down load and
untar it.
I 'cd' to this APR package lib.
I issue ./configure/make and for this package, it seems
to have gone well.
So we are now back at the 'Serf' ./configure/make.
I do the ./configure manually. Looks good.
I do the 'make'. It seems good.
3. Once again, we are back at the Subversion level. I continue on with
the './configure'
All seems well.
4. Let's say for arguments sake I have completed the './configure...'
without too many errors, at least none that are critical (I think).
Now I key in the 'make'.  Package missing.
I download the package and untar it.
I 'cd' to it's directory. I do the './configure'. Errors.
Needs 'x-package-of-some-sort'. I download it.
Go thru the procedures shown above, you know, the
configure/make process.
5. I  finally get back to the Subversion 'make' process again.
We begin where it erred off before.
etc,
etc,
etc,
etc,
etc,
etc.

Do you get my drift? It just seems like I'm spinning my wheels. I've
already installed all that the Subversion documents told me before I
even began, and yet, there are still many, many more packages that I
find out about while going through the ./configure...' and build
processes, since as I established before, there are no binaries that I
can find for Subversion, on SuSE SLES11, on zSeries.
I've got to be doing something wrong, yes?
HELP :-)
I don't really know whether I am on the correct path and I just need to
have patience and see it through, or?Any help or guidance would be so
appreciated.
Regards,
Michael



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Re: Linux Processor Support

2009-08-28 Thread Przemyslaw Kupisz

Billy R. Bingham wrote:

Greetings all,

Is there a central site that lists the different versions/distros of Linux for 
System z and what processors they support or will run on?


Thanks,

Billy



http://linuxvm.org/Info/distros.html

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Re: Linux Processor Support

2009-08-28 Thread Sven Schuetz

Hi,
for the commercial distros that could be what you are looking for:

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/linux/support/support_testedplatforms.html

Greetings,
Sven

Billy R. Bingham wrote:

Greetings all,

Is there a central site that lists the different versions/distros of Linux for 
System z and what processors they support or will run on?


Thanks,

Billy

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[no subject]

2009-08-28 Thread Billy R. Bingham
And then I should wait until I see that the list server rejected the original 
posting, because it contained listserv commands, before I send my apologies.'


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2009-08-28 Thread Billy R. Bingham
Sorry about that. I should know better :)


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Linux Processor Support

2009-08-28 Thread Billy R. Bingham
Greetings all,

Is there a central site that lists the different versions/distros of Linux for 
System z and what processors they support or will run on?


Thanks,

Billy

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Re: TWS Server on SLES10 SP2 using a lot cpu

2009-08-28 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Agblad Tore wrote:

> We are running a test of a TWS server on a SLES10 SP2, and it uses a lot of 
> cpu
> without any load.
> Inside the Linux top cmd indicate about 1% or less cpu used in total.
> z/VM reports about 9% cpu !
> What is he doing ?
> It's a bundled WAS used by the TWS that we suspect doing something.
> Anybody having this problem or have a clue what to do ?
> It's TWS 8.5, z/VM 5.4 and SLES10 SP2.
> The linux server has 1GB memory, we have tried with 2GB, no change.

Takk for sist, Tore.

What's happening is that the application is polling with very short
delay and thus getting tiny amounts of CPU time from z/VM but very
often. In this situation a kernel bug starts to play a role in that
some of the cost of waking up and going to sleep is not accounted for
by Linux. The kernel code has now been changed and the fix for this
will appear sometime in the service stream. With that, Linux will also
see 9% CPU (as system time)

Rob
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SLES 11 YaST Control Center, select System > LVM

2009-08-28 Thread Kowalski, Steve S
Hello,

The manual for SLES 11: Storage Administration Guide, March 2009, page
24, states: "In the YaST Control Center, select System > LVM."

This option (LVM) does is not displayed on SLES 11 in the YaST Control
Center, System.

What I am doing wrong?
Who can explain this event?

Thank you very much in advance.
Have a nice weekend,
Steve Kowalski
PS. This option does exist in SLES 10 sp1
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Wolf H Rempt/Netherlands/IBM is er even niet

2009-08-28 Thread Wolf H Rempt
I will be out of the office starting  28-08-2009 and will not return until
01-09-2009.

Ik ben vrij - voor urgente zaken neem aub contact op via sms of voicemail

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