Re: Using CPFORMAT exec
...and wait until it's cold and late and SERVICE or PUT2PROD fail badly on you. talk about front end madness! David Kreuter Original Message Subject: Re: Using CPFORMAT exec From: Michael MacIsaac Date: Wed, June 01, 2011 7:35 am To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Jeff, > I certainly had no intention of disparaging wrappers as-such Nope, did not take it that way. > I do, however, like to make sure that folk know when they're using a wrapper rather than the primary component ... Yup, agreed. "Mike MacIsaac" (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: mdadm message 'wrong state in superblock' at boot
Thanks for that information. I was able to open a service request!! Aria -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 4:18 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: mdadm message 'wrong state in superblock' at boot >>> On 6/1/2011 at 04:13 PM, Aria Bamdad wrote: > Mark, thanks for your comments. I have a SUSE SLES maintenance plan but no > support agreement so I can't report a problem (as far as I know). Is there > a channel where someone without a support agreement can report a problem? Aria, Anyone can go to bugzilla.novell.com and enter a bug report. They get far less attention/priority than service requests, but it may wind up generating some action. Mark -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: mdadm message 'wrong state in superblock' at boot
>>> On 6/1/2011 at 04:13 PM, Aria Bamdad wrote: > Mark, thanks for your comments. I have a SUSE SLES maintenance plan but no > support agreement so I can't report a problem (as far as I know). Is there > a channel where someone without a support agreement can report a problem? Aria, Anyone can go to bugzilla.novell.com and enter a bug report. They get far less attention/priority than service requests, but it may wind up generating some action. Mark -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: mdadm message 'wrong state in superblock' at boot
Mark, thanks for your comments. I have a SUSE SLES maintenance plan but no support agreement so I can't report a problem (as far as I know). Is there a channel where someone without a support agreement can report a problem? Aria -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:12 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: mdadm message 'wrong state in superblock' at boot >>> On 6/1/2011 at 08:54 AM, Aria Bamdad wrote: > Looking around, I found > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2010-07/msg00230.html > > which seems to be the exact problem. Has anyone somehow resolved this issue > on SUSE SLES 11 with SP1? There was an update for mdadm recently but it > didn't fix this issue. If no one opens a service request to fix it, it won't get fixed until SLES12 when package upgrades will occur. > This problem doesn't exist in SLES 10 and it seems > to happen in mdadm version 3.3. I want to know if I am safe using an md > device with this bug in mdadm. I can't tell from the various discussions in the thread you pointed at to be sure. I wouldn't bet any real important data on that setup. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: Linux Applications
If you are a Windows shop, do some SAMBA file sharing - impresses the windows folks. We also threw in initially a db2connect server to consolidate myriad distributed servers. You should read some cookbooks on building servers and streamline the creation process. We turn a lot of heads with the fact that we can hand over servers in a matter of minutes while our windows' team takes up to two weeks. We keep a couple sitting around, and hand them out as needed. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR) Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:57 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux Applications Linux has an endless source of free games and applications you can install on the servers, but that would be a waste of good resources. For working tools, look at Perfkit for zVM as a starter on performance. Play and learn Linux, use http://www.google.com/linux for all your questions, it's great, or visit http://linuxvm.org/ for a good read. Does your shop have any applications on distributed systems that a Linux based demo application can be ported over to your z10BC platform? Des your shop use Oracle on other platforms, it works great on zLinux. James Chaplin Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM & zLinux Base Technologies, Inc -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:16 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Linux Applications As part of our upgrade from a z890 to a z10BC our VAR threw in an IFL, Zvm/Linux and support to sweeten the deal. Although we do not currently have a business application for Linux we have zvm and 2 linux servers up and running for a learning experience and grins. We are running zvm 6.4 and RH5.6 My question is what are some tools or 'nice to have items' that can be installed and used to benefit the company at this point? I am looking to learn the environment and expand the roll of Linux on the MF here if possible. Thanks Matthew Dazzo Sr MVS Systems Programmer Publishers Clearing House -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: Linux Applications
Linux has an endless source of free games and applications you can install on the servers, but that would be a waste of good resources. For working tools, look at Perfkit for zVM as a starter on performance. Play and learn Linux, use http://www.google.com/linux for all your questions, it's great, or visit http://linuxvm.org/ for a good read. Does your shop have any applications on distributed systems that a Linux based demo application can be ported over to your z10BC platform? Des your shop use Oracle on other platforms, it works great on zLinux. James Chaplin Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM & zLinux Base Technologies, Inc -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:16 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Linux Applications As part of our upgrade from a z890 to a z10BC our VAR threw in an IFL, Zvm/Linux and support to sweeten the deal. Although we do not currently have a business application for Linux we have zvm and 2 linux servers up and running for a learning experience and grins. We are running zvm 6.4 and RH5.6 My question is what are some tools or 'nice to have items' that can be installed and used to benefit the company at this point? I am looking to learn the environment and expand the roll of Linux on the MF here if possible. Thanks Matthew Dazzo Sr MVS Systems Programmer Publishers Clearing House -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: zLinux user group in South Africa
Klaus, that's great news. Good luck over there ! ! (Tell them about the VMWorkshop at OSU. Maybe they have the budget for it..) Regards, Len In a message dated 6/1/2011 10:13:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, klau...@za.ibm.com writes: I talked to quite a few people who expressed their interest in a new zLinux user group in Johannesburg, South Africa. So, we will go for it. The first meeting will be next week's Friday, June 10th 2011, 10:00h - 13:00h, at IBM Park, 70 Rivonia Road, Sandton, Auditorium D11. To start things off I will give a 60-90 minute z/VM Performance Toolkit introduction with some real customer performance case studies. After that we can talk about the organisation of the group and its meetings. I hope that many can attend and make this a success. Klaus Bergmann IBM STG Technical Sales -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: zLinux CA PAM and ACF2
James, thanks for the tips and tricks. Another reason I posted here was that I am a private consultant, and as such, do not possess a CA customer number or CA Site ID. The customer now has very little Mainframe knowhow and next to zero Unix/Linux knowledge, so I am the man in the middle as it were.. Regards, En réponse à "CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)" : > -- Début du message d'origine > > We are using CA ESM with TSS for many years and love it. We > are years > ahead of the Unix guys down the hall, who key in each user one > server at > a time. I do little to no work on setting up users, as our > mainframe > security department now does all that work for us (where it > belongs). > However, we also tend to be cutting edge with our software > versions and > support level, so I do not know if I can correctly answer your > question. > > > > > What you need to do is open a question with CA support > (CA_ACF2 support) > to verify that the started task for the PAM server (CA DSI > Server) is > compatible and supported with zOS 1.5 and the level of eTrust > CA-ACF2 > you are using. The more important question is the version of > ACF2 than > the version of zOS (other than issues with support and the > versions of > ACF2 with the operating system). We are currently at version > 15 for the > CA DSI Server (with eTrust Top Secret), but you may find that > you will > need to back level to version 12. zVM 5.4 is not a factor at > all, > communications is only between the Linux Guest and the > mainframe started > task (CA DSI Server). The External Security Manager (ESM) has > been > around for a long time. > > > > I have found CA support once you get past level one for the CA > ESM > product to be very good, Wayne Bruce did a great job with this > and it is > a free add-on. But there is little to no information on the > web > (www.ca.com) on the product. > > > > James Chaplin > > Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM & zLinux > > Base Technologies, Inc > > > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On > Behalf Of > Andre Massena > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:03 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: zLinux CA PAM and ACF2 > > > > All, > > > > having seen several posts relating to CA PAM and ACF2 in the > distant > past on > > this forum, I thought I would pose my humble questions here.. > > > > > > A customer of mine is "still" running z/OS 1.5 using ACF2 as > the ESM. He > has > > installed several IFL's with bleeding edge z/VM 5.4.. and > wants to > > authenticate his z/OS users using an LDAP method from zLinux > (SLES11). > > > > Will CA PAM talk with such an old release of z/OS and > presumably an > equally > > old release of ACF2?? > > > > What are you considered opinions?? > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Andre > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO > LINUX-390 or > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO > LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > --- Fin du message d'origine - www.lavache.com : l'email gratuit sans pub, vachement meuh. www.hugolescargot.com : coloriage, fiches recettes et bricolage, chansons, etc. www.jeux-gratuits.com : des jeux en ligne pour toute la famille. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: mdadm message 'wrong state in superblock' at boot
>>> On 6/1/2011 at 08:54 AM, Aria Bamdad wrote: > Looking around, I found > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2010-07/msg00230.html > > which seems to be the exact problem. Has anyone somehow resolved this issue > on SUSE SLES 11 with SP1? There was an update for mdadm recently but it > didn't fix this issue. If no one opens a service request to fix it, it won't get fixed until SLES12 when package upgrades will occur. > This problem doesn't exist in SLES 10 and it seems > to happen in mdadm version 3.3. I want to know if I am safe using an md > device with this bug in mdadm. I can't tell from the various discussions in the thread you pointed at to be sure. I wouldn't bet any real important data on that setup. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: rescue mode
And if you have a working /usr, then mount that too to get vi. mount -o ro /usr On 1 June 2011 16:47, Little, Chris wrote: > After booting, try this... > > mount -o rw,remount / > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Testa, > Richard > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:43 AM > To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu > Subject: Re: rescue mode > > The server when IPL, comes up in maintenance mode which is read only. I > need to get the system to where I can either move the old fstab file > back in, or edit the current fstab in vi. How can I get the system in > such a mode > > Best Regards > > Richard Testa > OIT-Operation > Unix Systems Administrator > NH Department of Information Technology > 603-271-5460 (w) 603-235-2659 (c) > www.nh.gov/doit > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of > Mauro Souza > Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:38 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: rescue mode > > I think you don't have to go into single user mode. I guess you'd put > some > disk on fstab, and it doesn't come online, putting your system on > read-only > rescue mode. > > If I am right, you can do this: > > *mount -o remount,rw /* > *grep -v 'problematic disk' /etc/fstab > /etc/fstab.1* > *cat /etc/fstab.1* > > if the new fstab is fine, do this: > *mv /etc/fstab.1 /etc/fstab* > *reboot* > > Mauro > http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 > Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Testa, Richard > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> >> How do you boot into single user/rescue mode on zlinux...I need to > edit >> the fstab file, and it is in read only mode(maintenance)I tried > the >> following but getting an error... >> >> >> >> >> >> CP VI VMSG 0 SINGLE >> >> >> >> >> >> Best Regards >> >> >> >> Richard Testa >> OIT-Operation >> Unix Systems Administrator >> NH Department of Information Technology >> 603-271-5460 (w) 603-235-2659 (c) >> www.nh.gov/doit >> >> >> >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> -- >> For more information on Linux on System z, visit >> http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >> > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
zLinux user group in South Africa
I talked to quite a few people who expressed their interest in a new zLinux user group in Johannesburg, South Africa. So, we will go for it. The first meeting will be next week's Friday, June 10th 2011, 10:00h - 13:00h, at IBM Park, 70 Rivonia Road, Sandton, Auditorium D11. To start things off I will give a 60-90 minute z/VM Performance Toolkit introduction with some real customer performance case studies. After that we can talk about the organisation of the group and its meetings. I hope that many can attend and make this a success. Klaus Bergmann IBM STG Technical Sales -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: rescue mode
>>> On 6/1/2011 at 10:24 AM, "Testa, Richard" >>> wrote: > CP VI VMSG 0 SINGLE cp vi vmsg 0 1 or cp vi vmsg 0 S might work better. As others have commented, re-mounting r/w may be an option. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: rescue mode
Never mind. Wasn't reading the thread What I do in this case (usually) is link the root disk to another guest (as MR, of course). Then mount the disk, edit the file. Umount, detach, and boot the original guest. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Testa, Richard Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:43 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: rescue mode The server when IPL, comes up in maintenance mode which is read only. I need to get the system to where I can either move the old fstab file back in, or edit the current fstab in vi. How can I get the system in such a mode Best Regards Richard Testa OIT-Operation Unix Systems Administrator NH Department of Information Technology 603-271-5460 (w) 603-235-2659 (c) www.nh.gov/doit -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mauro Souza Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:38 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: rescue mode I think you don't have to go into single user mode. I guess you'd put some disk on fstab, and it doesn't come online, putting your system on read-only rescue mode. If I am right, you can do this: *mount -o remount,rw /* *grep -v 'problematic disk' /etc/fstab > /etc/fstab.1* *cat /etc/fstab.1* if the new fstab is fine, do this: *mv /etc/fstab.1 /etc/fstab* *reboot* Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Testa, Richard wrote: > Hello, > > > > How do you boot into single user/rescue mode on zlinux...I need to edit > the fstab file, and it is in read only mode(maintenance)I tried the > following but getting an error... > > > > > > CP VI VMSG 0 SINGLE > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Richard Testa > OIT-Operation > Unix Systems Administrator > NH Department of Information Technology > 603-271-5460 (w) 603-235-2659 (c) > www.nh.gov/doit > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: rescue mode
After booting, try this... mount -o rw,remount / -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Testa, Richard Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:43 AM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: rescue mode The server when IPL, comes up in maintenance mode which is read only. I need to get the system to where I can either move the old fstab file back in, or edit the current fstab in vi. How can I get the system in such a mode Best Regards Richard Testa OIT-Operation Unix Systems Administrator NH Department of Information Technology 603-271-5460 (w) 603-235-2659 (c) www.nh.gov/doit -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mauro Souza Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:38 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: rescue mode I think you don't have to go into single user mode. I guess you'd put some disk on fstab, and it doesn't come online, putting your system on read-only rescue mode. If I am right, you can do this: *mount -o remount,rw /* *grep -v 'problematic disk' /etc/fstab > /etc/fstab.1* *cat /etc/fstab.1* if the new fstab is fine, do this: *mv /etc/fstab.1 /etc/fstab* *reboot* Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Testa, Richard wrote: > Hello, > > > > How do you boot into single user/rescue mode on zlinux...I need to edit > the fstab file, and it is in read only mode(maintenance)I tried the > following but getting an error... > > > > > > CP VI VMSG 0 SINGLE > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Richard Testa > OIT-Operation > Unix Systems Administrator > NH Department of Information Technology > 603-271-5460 (w) 603-235-2659 (c) > www.nh.gov/doit > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: rescue mode
We run the install exec again for the server to get linux up and then putty into it. Just make sure you don't have any sort of automated install setup for it otherwise you will reinstall the operating system. We don't use the SLES 11 AUTOINST parameter so we don't run into that issue. You'll need to sign into the server on the ip address listed in the install parameters using the userid and password listed in the parameters. Once in, you will need to mount the server's disk in order to do any updates. Shut it down and reboot when done. Craig Collins State of WI, DOA, DET On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Mauro Souza wrote: > I think you don't have to go into single user mode. I guess you'd put some > disk on fstab, and it doesn't come online, putting your system on read-only > rescue mode. > > If I am right, you can do this: > > *mount -o remount,rw /* > *grep -v 'problematic disk' /etc/fstab > /etc/fstab.1* > *cat /etc/fstab.1* > > if the new fstab is fine, do this: > *mv /etc/fstab.1 /etc/fstab* > *reboot* > > Mauro > http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 > Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Testa, Richard > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > How do you boot into single user/rescue mode on zlinux...I need to edit > > the fstab file, and it is in read only mode(maintenance)I tried the > > following but getting an error... > > > > > > > > > > > > CP VI VMSG 0 SINGLE > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > Richard Testa > > OIT-Operation > > Unix Systems Administrator > > NH Department of Information Technology > > 603-271-5460 (w) 603-235-2659 (c) > > www.nh.gov/doit > > > > > > > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: rescue mode
I think you don't have to go into single user mode. I guess you'd put some disk on fstab, and it doesn't come online, putting your system on read-only rescue mode. If I am right, you can do this: *mount -o remount,rw /* *grep -v 'problematic disk' /etc/fstab > /etc/fstab.1* *cat /etc/fstab.1* if the new fstab is fine, do this: *mv /etc/fstab.1 /etc/fstab* *reboot* Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Testa, Richard wrote: > Hello, > > > > How do you boot into single user/rescue mode on zlinux...I need to edit > the fstab file, and it is in read only mode(maintenance)I tried the > following but getting an error... > > > > > > CP VI VMSG 0 SINGLE > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Richard Testa > OIT-Operation > Unix Systems Administrator > NH Department of Information Technology > 603-271-5460 (w) 603-235-2659 (c) > www.nh.gov/doit > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: rescue mode
The server when IPL, comes up in maintenance mode which is read only. I need to get the system to where I can either move the old fstab file back in, or edit the current fstab in vi. How can I get the system in such a mode Best Regards Richard Testa OIT-Operation Unix Systems Administrator NH Department of Information Technology 603-271-5460 (w) 603-235-2659 (c) www.nh.gov/doit -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mauro Souza Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:38 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: rescue mode I think you don't have to go into single user mode. I guess you'd put some disk on fstab, and it doesn't come online, putting your system on read-only rescue mode. If I am right, you can do this: *mount -o remount,rw /* *grep -v 'problematic disk' /etc/fstab > /etc/fstab.1* *cat /etc/fstab.1* if the new fstab is fine, do this: *mv /etc/fstab.1 /etc/fstab* *reboot* Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Testa, Richard wrote: > Hello, > > > > How do you boot into single user/rescue mode on zlinux...I need to edit > the fstab file, and it is in read only mode(maintenance)I tried the > following but getting an error... > > > > > > CP VI VMSG 0 SINGLE > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Richard Testa > OIT-Operation > Unix Systems Administrator > NH Department of Information Technology > 603-271-5460 (w) 603-235-2659 (c) > www.nh.gov/doit > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
rescue mode
Hello, How do you boot into single user/rescue mode on zlinux...I need to edit the fstab file, and it is in read only mode(maintenance)I tried the following but getting an error... CP VI VMSG 0 SINGLE Best Regards Richard Testa OIT-Operation Unix Systems Administrator NH Department of Information Technology 603-271-5460 (w) 603-235-2659 (c) www.nh.gov/doit -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: mdadm message 'wrong state in superblock' at boot
I posted this last week but got no response. Is anyone else getting such messages or is it just me? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Aria Bamdad Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:12 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: mdadm message 'wrong state in superblock' at boot Hi, I notice that in SLES 11 SP1, when you create an md device using multiple DASD as a RAID-0 striped volume, you receive the following error message at boot time when mdadm goes to start the md device or if you try to start it manually. mdadm: device 1 in /dev/md0 has wrong state in superblock, but /dev/dasdi1 seems ok The /dev/md0 comes up OK but still the message is alarming. It does not have anything to do with the array no being stopped properly (it is). Looking around, I found http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2010-07/msg00230.html which seems to be the exact problem. Has anyone somehow resolved this issue on SUSE SLES 11 with SP1? There was an update for mdadm recently but it didn't fix this issue. This problem doesn't exist in SLES 10 and it seems to happen in mdadm version 3.3. I want to know if I am safe using an md device with this bug in mdadm. Thanks, Aria -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: zLinux CA PAM and ACF2
There is a CA LDAP Server r15 for z/OS bookshelf. In there you wil find select a book title to view the documentation: CA DSI Installation Guide View HTML Download PDF CA DSI Messages Guide View HTML Download PDF CA DSI Product Guide View HTML Download PDF CA DSI Release Notes View HTML Download PDF CA LDAP Installation Guide View HTML Download PDF CA LDAP Messages Guide View HTML Download PDF CA LDAP Product Guide View HTML Download PDF CA LDAP Release Notes View HTML Download PDF CA PAM Client Product Guide View HTML Download PDF Richard (Gaz) Gasiorowski Solution Architect CSC 3170 Fairview Park Dr., Falls Church, VA 22042 845-889-8533|Work|845-392-7889 Cell|rgasi...@csc.com|www.csc.com This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. From: Rob van der Heij To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Date: 06/01/2011 07:18 AM Subject: Re: zLinux CA PAM and ACF2 On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Andre Massena wrote: > All, > > having seen several posts relating to CA PAM and ACF2 in the distant past on > this forum, I thought I would pose my humble questions here.. > > > A customer of mine is "still" running z/OS 1.5 using ACF2 as the ESM. He has > installed several IFL's with bleeding edge z/VM 5.4.. and wants to > authenticate his z/OS users using an LDAP method from zLinux (SLES11). > > Will CA PAM talk with such an old release of z/OS and presumably an equally > old release of ACF2?? According to the Wikipedia article, z/OS 1.5 was introduced around 2004. Looking in the ACF2 book (from 2003), it says: eTrust CA-ACF2 6.5 includes enhancements to support an interface for LINUX users. This includes a new PAM (Plug-in Authentication Module) to be used as an interface to eTrust CA-ACF2 for user authentication. Enhancements include a new LINUX User Profile record to map a LINUX name to the eTrust CA-ACF2 LID and Global LINUX Node records identifying nodes to eTrust CA-ACF2. This interface becomes part of the Security Integrator and will run as a daemon on z/OS and OS/390. My pedestrian view would be that timing could be such that your customer's ACF2 came with the PAM module. But you would have to see whether that lets itself fit on a more recent kernel like in SLES11. It's not impossible CA did some proprietary protocol rather than inplement full LDAP. Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: zLinux CA PAM and ACF2
We are using CA ESM with TSS for many years and love it. We are years ahead of the Unix guys down the hall, who key in each user one server at a time. I do little to no work on setting up users, as our mainframe security department now does all that work for us (where it belongs). However, we also tend to be cutting edge with our software versions and support level, so I do not know if I can correctly answer your question. What you need to do is open a question with CA support (CA_ACF2 support) to verify that the started task for the PAM server (CA DSI Server) is compatible and supported with zOS 1.5 and the level of eTrust CA-ACF2 you are using. The more important question is the version of ACF2 than the version of zOS (other than issues with support and the versions of ACF2 with the operating system). We are currently at version 15 for the CA DSI Server (with eTrust Top Secret), but you may find that you will need to back level to version 12. zVM 5.4 is not a factor at all, communications is only between the Linux Guest and the mainframe started task (CA DSI Server). The External Security Manager (ESM) has been around for a long time. I have found CA support once you get past level one for the CA ESM product to be very good, Wayne Bruce did a great job with this and it is a free add-on. But there is little to no information on the web (www.ca.com) on the product. James Chaplin Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM & zLinux Base Technologies, Inc -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Andre Massena Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:03 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: zLinux CA PAM and ACF2 All, having seen several posts relating to CA PAM and ACF2 in the distant past on this forum, I thought I would pose my humble questions here.. A customer of mine is "still" running z/OS 1.5 using ACF2 as the ESM. He has installed several IFL's with bleeding edge z/VM 5.4.. and wants to authenticate his z/OS users using an LDAP method from zLinux (SLES11). Will CA PAM talk with such an old release of z/OS and presumably an equally old release of ACF2?? What are you considered opinions?? Regards, Andre -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: Using CPFORMAT exec
Jeff, > I certainly had no intention of disparaging wrappers as-such Nope, did not take it that way. > I do, however, like to make sure that folk know when they're using a wrapper rather than the primary component ... Yup, agreed. "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: zLinux CA PAM and ACF2
Dankje Rob, I have also read the piece you quoted. As it is impossible to communicate with CA or speak with a Techie without a customer number or a Site ID, I posed the question on this forum. Andre En réponse à Rob van der Heij : > -- Début du message d'origine > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Andre Massena > wrote: > > All, > > > > having seen several posts relating to CA PAM and ACF2 in the > distant past on > > this forum, I thought I would pose my humble questions > here.. > > > > > > A customer of mine is "still" running z/OS 1.5 using ACF2 as > the ESM. He has > > installed several IFL's with bleeding edge z/VM 5.4.. and > wants to > > authenticate his z/OS users using an LDAP method from zLinux > (SLES11). > > > > Will CA PAM talk with such an old release of z/OS and > presumably an equally > > old release of ACF2?? > > According to the Wikipedia article, z/OS 1.5 was introduced > around > 2004. Looking in the ACF2 book (from 2003), it says: > > eTrust CA-ACF2 6.5 includes enhancements to support an > interface for LINUX > users. This includes a new PAM (Plug-in Authentication Module) > to be used as > an interface to eTrust CA-ACF2 for user authentication. > Enhancements include a > new LINUX User Profile record to map a LINUX name to the > eTrust CA-ACF2 > LID and Global LINUX Node records identifying nodes to eTrust > CA-ACF2. This > interface becomes part of the Security Integrator and will run > as a daemon on > z/OS and OS/390. > > My pedestrian view would be that timing could be such that > your > customer's ACF2 came with the PAM module. But you would have > to see > whether that lets itself fit on a more recent kernel like in > SLES11. > It's not impossible CA did some proprietary protocol rather > than > inplement full LDAP. > > Rob > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO > LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > --- Fin du message d'origine - www.lavache.com : l'email gratuit sans pub, vachement meuh. www.hugolescargot.com : coloriage, fiches recettes et bricolage, chansons, etc. www.jeux-gratuits.com : des jeux en ligne pour toute la famille. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: zLinux CA PAM and ACF2
I would use CA/DSI and ONLY use the LDAP for any application specific authorizartion. DSI connect directly to the z/OS backend. We sue it for TSS and my guess its the same for ACF2 Richard (Gaz) Gasiorowski Solution Architect CSC 3170 Fairview Park Dr., Falls Church, VA 22042 845-889-8533|Work|845-392-7889 Cell|rgasi...@csc.com|www.csc.com This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. From: Andre Massena To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Date: 06/01/2011 07:06 AM Subject: zLinux CA PAM and ACF2 All, having seen several posts relating to CA PAM and ACF2 in the distant past on this forum, I thought I would pose my humble questions here.. A customer of mine is "still" running z/OS 1.5 using ACF2 as the ESM. He has installed several IFL's with bleeding edge z/VM 5.4.. and wants to authenticate his z/OS users using an LDAP method from zLinux (SLES11). Will CA PAM talk with such an old release of z/OS and presumably an equally old release of ACF2?? What are you considered opinions?? Regards, Andre www.lavache.com : l'email gratuit sans pub, vachement meuh. www.hugolescargot.com : coloriage, fiches recettes et bricolage, chansons, etc. www.jeux-gratuits.com : des jeux en ligne pour toute la famille. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
INFO LINUX-390
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Re: zLinux CA PAM and ACF2
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Andre Massena wrote: > All, > > having seen several posts relating to CA PAM and ACF2 in the distant past on > this forum, I thought I would pose my humble questions here.. > > > A customer of mine is "still" running z/OS 1.5 using ACF2 as the ESM. He has > installed several IFL's with bleeding edge z/VM 5.4.. and wants to > authenticate his z/OS users using an LDAP method from zLinux (SLES11). > > Will CA PAM talk with such an old release of z/OS and presumably an equally > old release of ACF2?? According to the Wikipedia article, z/OS 1.5 was introduced around 2004. Looking in the ACF2 book (from 2003), it says: eTrust CA-ACF2 6.5 includes enhancements to support an interface for LINUX users. This includes a new PAM (Plug-in Authentication Module) to be used as an interface to eTrust CA-ACF2 for user authentication. Enhancements include a new LINUX User Profile record to map a LINUX name to the eTrust CA-ACF2 LID and Global LINUX Node records identifying nodes to eTrust CA-ACF2. This interface becomes part of the Security Integrator and will run as a daemon on z/OS and OS/390. My pedestrian view would be that timing could be such that your customer's ACF2 came with the PAM module. But you would have to see whether that lets itself fit on a more recent kernel like in SLES11. It's not impossible CA did some proprietary protocol rather than inplement full LDAP. Rob -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
zLinux CA PAM and ACF2
All, having seen several posts relating to CA PAM and ACF2 in the distant past on this forum, I thought I would pose my humble questions here.. A customer of mine is "still" running z/OS 1.5 using ACF2 as the ESM. He has installed several IFL's with bleeding edge z/VM 5.4.. and wants to authenticate his z/OS users using an LDAP method from zLinux (SLES11). Will CA PAM talk with such an old release of z/OS and presumably an equally old release of ACF2?? What are you considered opinions?? Regards, Andre www.lavache.com : l'email gratuit sans pub, vachement meuh. www.hugolescargot.com : coloriage, fiches recettes et bricolage, chansons, etc. www.jeux-gratuits.com : des jeux en ligne pour toute la famille. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: Using CPFORMAT exec
You guys are phenomenal. This is a tremendous education I am getting. Thanks. Cameron On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Jeff Gribbin wrote: > I certainly had no intention of disparaging wrappers as-such (I've > developed plenty of my own over the years, and even shared a few of > them). I do, however, like to make sure that folk know when they're > using a wrapper rather than the primary component and that, if their > need begins to move beyond the wrapper's capability, they know where > to find the box of scalpels that can be used instead of the > immediately-available axe :-) > > But if the axe fits then use it - it is indeed much less tedious when > precise enough for the job-in-hand! (Who - other than a masochist - > wants to chop wood with a scalpel?) > > Regards > Jeff > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- Cameron Seay, Ph.D. Electronics, Computer and Information Technology School of Technology NC A & T State University Greensboro, NC 336 334 7717 x2251 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
