Install tape driver error on zlinux

2011-10-18 Thread Lu GL Gao
Our linux is SUSE Enterprise Server 11 SP1 running on z/VM V5.4.
Our linux kernel is 2.6.32.12-0.7-default (geeko@buildhost) (gcc version
4.3.4  gcc-4 setup.1a06a7: Linux is running as a z/VM guest operating
system in 64-bit mode.
Our tape lib is TS3500, driver is 3592 E05.
Our SAN switch is 2498-B24.

The connection path from mainframe to tape lib is: fcp channel(A) - input
port of san switch(B) - output port of san switch(C) - port of driver(D).

The special thing is C point is directly connect D point. Rather than
through 3953 tape lib controller.

The following is my detail work of installing tape driver:

(1) download tape driver from website of System Storage Interoperation
Center. Before selecting correct driver, we selected following values to
narrow target drivers on website search.
Product Family - IBM System Storage Enterprise Tape
Product Model - TS3500 (3584) with TS1120 (3592-E05) Drives   (I asked this
info from HW guy)
Product Version - TS3500 (B150) with TS1120 (3592-E05) Drives (D3I1_EE9)
(I select the last one of pull-down menu, because I thought it is the
up-to-date version)
Host Platform - IBM System z
Operating System - Novell SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 SP1
Adapter Model - FC 3324   (I ask this info from HW guy)
SAN or Networking Model - IBM SAN24B-4 (2498-B24)  (I checked on SAN switch
label)

The most unsure item is Product Version. I don't know if it is correct for
us.

I downloaded 2 files. One is lin_tape-1.61.0-1.src.rpm, the other is
lin_taped-1.61.0-sles11.s390x.rpm.

(2) I'm sure that zfcp device driver is loaded into kernel, because we have
scsi disk connected through zfcp device driver.

(3) rpmbuild -rebuild lin_tape-1.61.0-1.src.rpm
This step produced lin_tape package
on /usr/src/packages/RPMS/s390x/lin_tape-1.61.0-1.s390x.rpm

(4) rpm -ivh /usr/src/packages/RPMS/s390x/lin_tape-1.61.0-1.s390x.rpm
This step produced below error:

Preparing...   ###
[100%]
  1:lin_tape   ###
[100%]
Starting lin_tape: FATAL: module
'/lib/modules/2.6.32.12-0.7-default/kernel/drivers/scsi/lin_tape.ko' is
unsupported
Use --allow-unsupported or set allow_unsupported_modules to 1 in
/etc/modprobe.d/unsupported-modules

lin_tape loaded


I don't know why this error occured. Is it means incorrect version of tape
driver I used?

(5) rpm -ivh /usr/src//lin_taped-1.x.x.x..0-sles11.s390x.rpm
This step install lin_taped daemon. But I got similar error as step 4:

Preparing...   ###
[100%]
  1:lin_taped  ###
[100%]
Starting lin_tape: FATAL: module
'/lib/modules/2.6.32.12-0.7-default/kernel/drivers/scsi/lin_tape.ko' is
unsupported
Use --allow-unsupported or set allow_unsupported_modules to 1 in
/etc/modprobe.d/unsupported-modules

lin_tape loaded


Anybody has idea for this error?













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Re: Install tape driver error on zlinux

2011-10-18 Thread Steffen Maier

On 10/18/2011 09:14 AM, Lu GL Gao wrote:

Our linux is SUSE Enterprise Server 11 SP1 running on z/VM V5.4.



Our tape lib is TS3500, driver is 3592 E05.



(1) download tape driver from website of System Storage Interoperation
Center.



I downloaded 2 files. One is lin_tape-1.61.0-1.src.rpm, the other is
lin_taped-1.61.0-sles11.s390x.rpm.

(2) I'm sure that zfcp device driver is loaded into kernel, because we have
scsi disk connected through zfcp device driver.

(3) rpmbuild -rebuild lin_tape-1.61.0-1.src.rpm
This step produced lin_tape package
on /usr/src/packages/RPMS/s390x/lin_tape-1.61.0-1.s390x.rpm

(4) rpm -ivh /usr/src/packages/RPMS/s390x/lin_tape-1.61.0-1.s390x.rpm
This step produced below error:

Preparing...   ###
[100%]
   1:lin_tape   ###
[100%]
Starting lin_tape: FATAL: module
'/lib/modules/2.6.32.12-0.7-default/kernel/drivers/scsi/lin_tape.ko' is
unsupported
Use --allow-unsupported or set allow_unsupported_modules to 1 in
/etc/modprobe.d/unsupported-modules


Since you (had to) build the lin_tape device driver kernel module 
yourself it is formally flagged as not supported by SLES11 and 
therefore modprobe denies loading the module. This is indicated by above 
message for which you can find more details in:


http://www.novell.com/support/viewContent.do?externalId=7002793sliceId=1
http://www.novell.com/linux/releasenotes/s390x/SUSE-SLES/11-SP1/#KernelModules

Unfortunately, I don't know how this case is handled with SLES regarding 
distribution support for SCSI tape drives.

Hoping for Mark Post to step in here.

Steffen

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Re: Install tape driver error on zlinux

2011-10-18 Thread Shane
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:41:47 +0200 Steffen Maier wrote:

 Since you (had to) build the lin_tape device driver kernel module
 yourself it is formally flagged as not supported by SLES11 and
 therefore modprobe denies loading the module.

I wonder how this sits philosophically with users.
At least they didn't mark it as crap I suppose (see
https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/10/6/317)

Shane ...

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Re: Install tape driver error on zlinux

2011-10-18 Thread Mark Post
 On 10/18/2011 at 05:41 AM, Steffen Maier ma...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: 
 Since you (had to) build the lin_tape device driver kernel module 
 yourself it is formally flagged as not supported by SLES11 and 
 therefore modprobe denies loading the module. This is indicated by above 
 message for which you can find more details in:
 
 http://www.novell.com/support/viewContent.do?externalId=7002793sliceId=1
 http://www.novell.com/linux/releasenotes/s390x/SUSE-SLES/11-SP1/#KernelModul
 es
 
 Unfortunately, I don't know how this case is handled with SLES regarding 
 distribution support for SCSI tape drives.
 Hoping for Mark Post to step in here.

We do provide native support for SCSI tapes in the distribution.  I don't know 
what lin_tape provides over and above that.  If nothing additional is needed, 
then just don't use it and use the native support.

If the OP _has_ to use lin_tape for whatever reason, he needs to understand 
that running with a tainted kernel _might_ put some additional burden on him in 
the future.  If a support request is opened, and the lin_tape kernel module is 
suspected of interfering with the normal operation of the system, then the 
problem will have to be recreated without the lin_tape module loaded.  I have 
run into this before.  In one situation a customer was using a 3rd party kernel 
module that resulted in it looking as though nearly all of /sys was missing.  
If that module wasn't loaded, everything was fine, so the customer had to go 
talk to that 3rd party vendor about the problem.


Mark Post

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Cannot Ping SLES11 guests from z/VM through hypersockets

2011-10-18 Thread Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
We are running z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 1001 (64-bit). We
can ping all of our SLES10 guests through our real hypersockets from z/VM.
however we cannot ping our SLES11 guests from z/VM through our real
hypersockets. All our Linux guests (SLES10 and SLES11) can ping each other
fine through hypersockets. z/OS can ping SLES10 and SLES11 guests through
hypersockets fine. SLES10 and SLES11 Linux guest can ping everything fine
through hypersockets. The only problem is pinging SLES11 guests from z/VM.
Has anyone else experienced this problem or have any suggestions?
SLES10 Guest HSI0
hsi0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 06:00:EF:05:00:06
  inet addr:161.186.86.150  Bcast:162.186.86.191
Mask:255.255.255.192
  inet6 addr: fe80::600:ef9f:4005:6/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:16384  Metric:1
  RX packets:207 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:291 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:16704 (16.3 Kb)  TX bytes:33137 (32.3 Kb)

SLES11 Guest HSI0
hsi0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 06:00:EF:05:00:1A
  inet addr:161.186.86.154  Bcast:161.186.86.191
Mask:255.255.255.192
  inet6 addr: fe80::400:efff:fe05:1a/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:16384  Metric:1
  RX packets:98 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:154 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:8816 (8.6 Kb)  TX bytes:16149 (15.7 Kb)


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Re: Cannot Ping SLES11 guests from z/VM through hypersockets

2011-10-18 Thread Mark Post
 On 10/18/2011 at 06:42 PM, Peter E. Abresch Jr.   - at Pepco
peabre...@pepco.com wrote: 
 We are running z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 1001 (64-bit). We
 can ping all of our SLES10 guests through our real hypersockets from z/VM.
 however we cannot ping our SLES11 guests from z/VM through our real
 hypersockets. All our Linux guests (SLES10 and SLES11) can ping each other
 fine through hypersockets. z/OS can ping SLES10 and SLES11 guests through
 hypersockets fine. SLES10 and SLES11 Linux guest can ping everything fine
 through hypersockets. The only problem is pinging SLES11 guests from z/VM.
 Has anyone else experienced this problem or have any suggestions?

Do you have the fix for z/VM APAR PK80882 installed?


Mark Post

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Re: Cannot Ping SLES11 guests from z/VM through hypersockets

2011-10-18 Thread Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
Yes, PTF shows applied UK46027:
VMFSRV1226I TCPIP (5VMTCP40%TCPIP) APAR PK80882 (PTF UK46027) status:
VMFSRV1226IRECEIVED  06/17/10 07:50:18
VMFSRV1226IAPPLIED   10/06/09 20:16:49
VMFSRV1226IBUILT 06/17/10 07:51:47
VMFSRV1226IPUT2PROD  06/17/10 09:18:43
VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully



From:   Mark Post mp...@novell.com
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Date:   10/18/2011 06:53 PM
Subject:Re: Cannot Ping SLES11 guests from z/VM through
hypersockets
Sent by:Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu



 On 10/18/2011 at 06:42 PM, Peter E. Abresch Jr.   - at Pepco
peabre...@pepco.com wrote:
 We are running z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 1001 (64-bit).
We
 can ping all of our SLES10 guests through our real hypersockets from
z/VM.
 however we cannot ping our SLES11 guests from z/VM through our real
 hypersockets. All our Linux guests (SLES10 and SLES11) can ping each
other
 fine through hypersockets. z/OS can ping SLES10 and SLES11 guests
through
 hypersockets fine. SLES10 and SLES11 Linux guest can ping everything
fine
 through hypersockets. The only problem is pinging SLES11 guests from
z/VM.
 Has anyone else experienced this problem or have any suggestions?

Do you have the fix for z/VM APAR PK80882 installed?


Mark Post

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Re: Cannot Ping SLES11 guests from z/VM through hypersockets

2011-10-18 Thread Michael O'Reilly
Peter,

 Are you by any chance hitting:

   Applying SLES 11 SP 1 Causing Communication Issues

http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kcexternalId=7007649sliceId=1docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1




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Yes, PTF shows applied UK46027:
VMFSRV1226I TCPIP (5VMTCP40%TCPIP) APAR PK80882 (PTF UK46027) status:
VMFSRV1226IRECEIVED  06/17/10 07:50:18
VMFSRV1226IAPPLIED   10/06/09 20:16:49
VMFSRV1226IBUILT 06/17/10 07:51:47
VMFSRV1226IPUT2PROD  06/17/10 09:18:43
VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully



From:   Mark Post mp...@novell.com
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Date:   10/18/2011 06:53 PM
Subject:Re: Cannot Ping SLES11 guests from z/VM through
hypersockets
Sent by:Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu



 On 10/18/2011 at 06:42 PM, Peter E. Abresch Jr.   - at Pepco
peabre...@pepco.com wrote:
 We are running z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 1001 (64-bit).
We
 can ping all of our SLES10 guests through our real hypersockets from
z/VM.
 however we cannot ping our SLES11 guests from z/VM through our real
 hypersockets. All our Linux guests (SLES10 and SLES11) can ping each
other
 fine through hypersockets. z/OS can ping SLES10 and SLES11 guests
through
 hypersockets fine. SLES10 and SLES11 Linux guest can ping everything
fine
 through hypersockets. The only problem is pinging SLES11 guests from
z/VM.
 Has anyone else experienced this problem or have any suggestions?

Do you have the fix for z/VM APAR PK80882 installed?


Mark Post

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Re: Cannot Ping SLES11 guests from z/VM through hypersockets

2011-10-18 Thread Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
Maybe, net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter was set to 1. I took one of my
SLES11-SP1 guest and set it to 2. It now pings from z/VM. When I set it
back to 1, it still pings. When I set it to 0, it still pings. I went to a
different SLES11 guest. It did not ping, but once I set
net.ipv4.conf.all.rp_filter to 0, it pinged fine. I returned it to 1 and
it still pings. I am confused. Why is it pinging all of a sudden or is it
just the nature of the beast. Should I set it to 2 globally?

Peter



From:   Michael O'Reilly mik...@us.ibm.com
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Date:   10/18/2011 07:24 PM
Subject:Re: Cannot Ping SLES11 guests from z/VM through
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Peter,

 Are you by any chance hitting:

   Applying SLES 11 SP 1 Causing Communication Issues

http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kcexternalId=7007649sliceId=1docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1





 Mike O'Reilly
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 Linux on 390 Port
 linux-...@vm.mar
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Yes, PTF shows applied UK46027:
VMFSRV1226I TCPIP (5VMTCP40%TCPIP) APAR PK80882 (PTF UK46027) status:
VMFSRV1226IRECEIVED  06/17/10 07:50:18
VMFSRV1226IAPPLIED   10/06/09 20:16:49
VMFSRV1226IBUILT 06/17/10 07:51:47
VMFSRV1226IPUT2PROD  06/17/10 09:18:43
VMFSRV2760I SERVICE processing completed successfully



From:   Mark Post mp...@novell.com
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Date:   10/18/2011 06:53 PM
Subject:Re: Cannot Ping SLES11 guests from z/VM through
hypersockets
Sent by:Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu



 On 10/18/2011 at 06:42 PM, Peter E. Abresch Jr.   - at Pepco
peabre...@pepco.com wrote:
 We are running z/VM Version 5 Release 4.0, service level 1001 (64-bit).
We
 can ping all of our SLES10 guests through our real hypersockets from
z/VM.
 however we cannot ping our SLES11 guests from z/VM through our real
 hypersockets. All our Linux guests (SLES10 and SLES11) can ping each
other
 fine through hypersockets. z/OS can ping SLES10 and SLES11 guests
through
 hypersockets fine. SLES10 and SLES11 Linux guest can ping everything
fine
 through hypersockets. The only problem is pinging SLES11 guests from
z/VM.
 Has anyone else experienced this problem or have any suggestions?

Do you have the fix for z/VM APAR PK80882 installed?


Mark Post

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Re: Install tape driver error on zlinux

2011-10-18 Thread Shane
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:51:37 -0600 Mark Post wrote:

 If the OP _has_ to use lin_tape for whatever reason, he needs to
 understand that running with a tainted kernel _might_ put some
 additional burden on him in the future.

Is this not GPL licensed code ?.
If so, just how does running it result in a tainted kernel ?.

Shane ...

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Re: Install tape driver error on zlinux

2011-10-18 Thread Mark Post
 On 10/19/2011 at 12:36 AM, Shane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: 
 Is this not GPL licensed code ?.

I have no idea if it is or not.

 If so, just how does running it result in a tainted kernel ?.

We didn't build it, so we don't support it.  Tainting is not a one bit flag, it 
is multiple bits, having different uses.


Mark Post

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Re: Install tape driver error on zlinux

2011-10-18 Thread Lu GL Gao
Let me explain the reason of installing tape driver is we are going to
install Tivoli Storage Manager which will be the only tool to backup our
systems.

Our linux is newly installed which was provided by IBM. Nobody modified it,
and even nobody begin to use it.

I also downloaded tape driver from IBM storage support website.

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Re: Install tape driver error on zlinux

2011-10-18 Thread Marcy Cortes
We ran it for a while on SLES 10.  There was a tainted message there too at 
boot time, but no special action like SLES 11 seems to require.

We needed it to drive an IBM ATL.  There is no native Linux support for that.

Just know that if you do have a problem and Novell is providing your support, 
you *may* have to pull it out and recreate the problem without it.  Probably 
pretty unlikely, but just be aware.

You also have to rebuild the thing after each kernel update.  Kind of a pain.  
Especially if you forget and it's not functional anymore :)



Marcy 
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lu GL Gao
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:52 PM
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Install tape driver error on zlinux

Let me explain the reason of installing tape driver is we are going to
install Tivoli Storage Manager which will be the only tool to backup our
systems.

Our linux is newly installed which was provided by IBM. Nobody modified it,
and even nobody begin to use it.

I also downloaded tape driver from IBM storage support website.

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