Re: pid swap space used

2012-04-13 Thread Shane G
On Fri, Apr 13th, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Mark Post wrote:

 /proc/*/smaps exists in SLES10, but there's no Swap: fields in them.

Arrgggh. That'll certainly get a bunch of zeroes out of that script.
Note to self, _never_ presume nuthin ...

Thanks Mark.

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Re: bash question.

2012-04-13 Thread Hendrik Brueckner
Hi John,

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:42:33PM -0500, John McKown wrote:
 bash has variables, such as $PATH and $HOME and maybe even $i. If a
 variable has been the subject of an export command, you find all of them
 which are export'd using the printenv command. But is there some way to
 find the ones which exist, but have not been export'd?

 No, I guess I don't have a real need for this. But I'm curious.

You can use declare -p.  Exported variables are displyed with -x,
for example: declare -x EDITOR=vim

Take a look at help declare for other options like if a variable is an
array...

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Re: bash question.

2012-04-13 Thread McKown, John
I must learn how to read the manuals. Yes, I did do an info bash. It's nice 
and easy to use to find what a command does, if you know the command. But it is 
difficult, at least for me, to find a command based on what it does.

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 Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:48 PM
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  On 4/12/2012 at 11:42 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: 
  bash has variables, such as $PATH and $HOME and maybe even $i. If a
  variable has been the subject of an export command, you 
 find all of them
  which are export'd using the printenv command. But is there 
 some way to
  find the ones which exist, but have not been export'd?
 
 I use env or set.
 
 
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Re: bash question.

2012-04-13 Thread McKown, John
Very nice! Thanks. I guess that I'm going to end up dedicating a weekend day to 
just read the entire output from info bash. Luckily, I can create a text file 
from it, convert it to PDF format, then read the PDF directly on my Kindle DX 
or Android tablet. I really don't like reading manuals on my PC screen 
because it is landscape instead of portrait. 

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 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Hendrik Brueckner
 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:47 AM
 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: bash question.
 
 Hi John,
 
 On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:42:33PM -0500, John McKown wrote:
  bash has variables, such as $PATH and $HOME and maybe even $i. If a
  variable has been the subject of an export command, you 
 find all of them
  which are export'd using the printenv command. But is there 
 some way to
  find the ones which exist, but have not been export'd?
 
  No, I guess I don't have a real need for this. But I'm curious.
 
 You can use declare -p.  Exported variables are displyed with -x,
 for example: declare -x EDITOR=vim
 
 Take a look at help declare for other options like if a 
 variable is an
 array...
 
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Re: bash question.

2012-04-13 Thread Malcolm Beattie
McKown, John writes:
 Very nice! Thanks. I guess that I'm going to end up dedicating a
 weekend day to just read the entire output from info bash. Luckily,
 I can create a text file from it, convert it to PDF format, then
 read the PDF directly on my Kindle DX or Android tablet.

In case you weren't aware of it already, the utilities used to
process the *roff macros used in man pages support typesetting to
PostScript as well as generating simple text output. So typing
man -t bash  bash-man.ps
will generate you a nicely formatted PostScript version of the
man page in bash-man.ps, fancy fonts and all, instead of what you'd
get from just taking the text version. That's suitable for direct
pringting but you can instead just
  ps2pdf bash-man.ps
to produce your bash-man.pdf PDF version.

Using info bash instead of man bash uses a slightly different
source of documentation (the FSF document their own programs in their
own GNU info format instead of man pages) but you'll nearly always
find that some nice people have already ensured that your distro has
man pages for the programs as well and that they have either exactly
the same content or are close enough for most purposes. There are
ways of generating various typeset-like formats from info format too
but I forget what they are and I don't think they are as simple as
just adding -t to your man command invocation.

--Malcolm

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Re: bash question.

2012-04-13 Thread McKown, John
Oh, that is beautiful! Thank you very much.

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 Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:01 AM
 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Re: bash question.
snip
 In case you weren't aware of it already, the utilities used to
 process the *roff macros used in man pages support typesetting to
 PostScript as well as generating simple text output. So typing
 man -t bash  bash-man.ps
 will generate you a nicely formatted PostScript version of the
 man page in bash-man.ps, fancy fonts and all, instead of what you'd
 get from just taking the text version. That's suitable for direct
 pringting but you can instead just
   ps2pdf bash-man.ps
 to produce your bash-man.pdf PDF version.
 
 Using info bash instead of man bash uses a slightly different
 source of documentation (the FSF document their own programs in their
 own GNU info format instead of man pages) but you'll nearly always
 find that some nice people have already ensured that your distro has
 man pages for the programs as well and that they have either exactly
 the same content or are close enough for most purposes. There are
 ways of generating various typeset-like formats from info format too
 but I forget what they are and I don't think they are as simple as
 just adding -t to your man command invocation.
 
 --Malcolm
 
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Linux router

2012-04-13 Thread Martha McConaghy
I've been working on setting up a zLinux (SLES 11) system to act as a router
between two networks (its on an ensemble, but that doesn't really matter at
the moment).  Everything is set up within Linux (yes, I have IP routing turned
on) and the real network has been updated to have a static route to this
system.  Pings are successful to the main IP address on the adapter (on a
vswitch connected to a 1000BaseT OSA).  Pings are also successful from the
other adapter as well.

However, when we try to ping the adapter on the far side of the router from
the network, the packets make it as far as the OSA and then drop.  Our TCPIP
routing guru, Alan Altmark, reminded me that the PRIROUTER setting has to be
turned on in the vswitch for the OSA to recognize that it will be routing
other traffic through it.  I've got that set now, but am still seeing the
problem.

If this were a VM TCPIP machine, I would have to also set PRIROUTER on the
DEVICE statement to get this to work (I'm tempted to switch over to this if I
can't get it working).  Is there an equivelent setting for qeth?  I've been
googling around, but haven't found anything.

Martha

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Re: Linux router

2012-04-13 Thread Richard Troth
Hi, Martha, --

Maybe set the default route on the inside guests?
But also, with OSA, you may need to tickle it into playing nice.
Alan would know more, but am guessing you either need to explicitly
set it to allow forwarding (which PRIROUTER may affect) or run it in
layer 2 mode.

I've used Linux as a router for years.
Until a hardware failure about 18 months ago, a Linux box served as my
primary router/gateway on the home network.

Never heard of anything quite like PRIROUTER per se.  But ... all
parties had to know about the routes.  The outside guys needed to
know to get to that subnet via the external addr of the Linux box.
The inside guys needed to know that their default route was by way
of the internal addr of the Linux box.

As it happens, I still use a Linux box as a primary router.  Since my
ISP does not yet provide native IPv6, I use a tunnel for IPv6.  The
details are a little different, but the concept is the same.  Outside
world knows the path into my subnet.  Machines on my subnet know to
use the internal addr of that host as their default route.

I hope this helps.

-- R;
Rick Troth
Velocity Software
http://www.velocitysoftware.com/



On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Martha McConaghy u...@vm.marist.edu wrote:
 I've been working on setting up a zLinux (SLES 11) system to act as a router
 between two networks (its on an ensemble, but that doesn't really matter at
 the moment).  Everything is set up within Linux (yes, I have IP routing turned
 on) and the real network has been updated to have a static route to this
 system.  Pings are successful to the main IP address on the adapter (on a
 vswitch connected to a 1000BaseT OSA).  Pings are also successful from the
 other adapter as well.

 However, when we try to ping the adapter on the far side of the router from
 the network, the packets make it as far as the OSA and then drop.  Our TCPIP
 routing guru, Alan Altmark, reminded me that the PRIROUTER setting has to be
 turned on in the vswitch for the OSA to recognize that it will be routing
 other traffic through it.  I've got that set now, but am still seeing the
 problem.

 If this were a VM TCPIP machine, I would have to also set PRIROUTER on the
 DEVICE statement to get this to work (I'm tempted to switch over to this if I
 can't get it working).  Is there an equivelent setting for qeth?  I've been
 googling around, but haven't found anything.

 Martha

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Re: Linux router

2012-04-13 Thread Michael O'Reilly

Martha,

 If your SLES11 is SP1 and if, when you receive a ping, you see the RX
count tick up, while the TX count remains the same, you might want to
consider: Applying SLES 11 SP 1 Causing Communication Issues at
http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kcexternalId=7007649sliceId=1docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1
   
   
   
   
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 IBM Linux Change Team 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   





   
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I've been working on setting up a zLinux (SLES 11) system to act as a
router
between two networks (its on an ensemble, but that doesn't really matter at
the moment).  Everything is set up within Linux (yes, I have IP routing
turned
on) and the real network has been updated to have a static route to this
system.  Pings are successful to the main IP address on the adapter (on a
vswitch connected to a 1000BaseT OSA).  Pings are also successful from the
other adapter as well.

However, when we try to ping the adapter on the far side of the router from
the network, the packets make it as far as the OSA and then drop.  Our
TCPIP
routing guru, Alan Altmark, reminded me that the PRIROUTER setting has to
be
turned on in the vswitch for the OSA to recognize that it will be routing
other traffic through it.  I've got that set now, but am still seeing the
problem.

If this were a VM TCPIP machine, I would have to also set PRIROUTER on the
DEVICE statement to get this to work (I'm tempted to switch over to this if
I
can't get it working).  Is there an equivelent setting for qeth?  I've been
googling around, but haven't found anything.

Martha

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Re: Linux router

2012-04-13 Thread Aria Bamdad
We ran into this issue on a multi-homed Intel Linux box running Samba months
about a year ago when we upgraded the server.  In our case, we had to set
the value for rp_filter to zero.  You can read more about this change here:
http://ifup.org/2011/02/03/reverse-path-filter-rp_filter-by-example/

Aria

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Subject: Re: Linux router


Martha,

 If your SLES11 is SP1 and if, when you receive a ping, you see the RX
count tick up, while the TX count remains the same, you might want to
consider: Applying SLES 11 SP 1 Causing Communication Issues at
http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKCdocType=kcexternalId=
7007649sliceId=1docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1


 

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I've been working on setting up a zLinux (SLES 11) system to act as a
router
between two networks (its on an ensemble, but that doesn't really matter at
the moment).  Everything is set up within Linux (yes, I have IP routing
turned
on) and the real network has been updated to have a static route to this
system.  Pings are successful to the main IP address on the adapter (on a
vswitch connected to a 1000BaseT OSA).  Pings are also successful from the
other adapter as well.

However, when we try to ping the adapter on the far side of the router from
the network, the packets make it as far as the OSA and then drop.  Our
TCPIP
routing guru, Alan Altmark, reminded me that the PRIROUTER setting has to
be
turned on in the vswitch for the OSA to recognize that it will be routing
other traffic through it.  I've got that set now, but am still seeing the
problem.

If this were a VM TCPIP machine, I would have to also set PRIROUTER on the
DEVICE statement to get this to work (I'm tempted to switch over to this if
I
can't get it working).  Is there an equivelent setting for qeth?  I've been
googling around, but haven't found anything.

Martha

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Re: 2012 VM Workshop details updated

2012-04-13 Thread Jim Elliott
Sorry to say, I probably won't be able to make it. I was looking
forward to this with it being the 40th anniversary of VM. However,
this has been scheduled against the Canada Day holiday (our 4th of
July).

I know most of the attendees will be from the US, but this will pretty
much kill any chance of Canadians coming.

PS: SHARE did the same thing by scheduling SHARE in Anaheim against the
August 1 long weekend in Canada!

Jim

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