Re: oracle java
On Thu, Mar 21st, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Ben Duncan wrote: *SNARK* .. Gave up Java for Python. lol - I went the other way. No real loss in my case as my Python was rudimentary, and I wanted to write an app for my phone Now everyone tells me I should be on HTML5 d'oh. Shane ... -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: oracle java
Not the FIRST article I've seen on this, but just the most recent. Now they say HTML-5 IS NOT the way to go. http://www.zdnet.com/heres-why-html-based-apps-dont-work-712942/ Guess I need to get back on my fancy mouseable TUI ncurses interface I have been working on ... Ben Duncan - Business Network Solutions, Inc. 336 Elton Road Jackson MS, 39212 Never attribute to malice, that which can be adequately explained by stupidity - Hanlon's Razor Original Message Subject: Re: oracle java From: Shane G ibm-m...@tpg.com.au Date: Thu, March 21, 2013 3:13 am To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU On Thu, Mar 21st, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Ben Duncan wrote: *SNARK* .. Gave up Java for Python. lol - I went the other way. No real loss in my case as my Python was rudimentary, and I wanted to write an app for my phone Now everyone tells me I should be on HTML5 d'oh. Shane ... -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Is using System z MIPS for Office applications a good use (was: Excel replacement for linux on z)
Is using System z MIPS for office applications a good use? I'm not sure one way or the other. Could the cost of running office applications on System z be cheaper than running them on a PC? When more types of applications run on System z, IBM could sell to more customers. IBM would need to make more z Systems. Higher manufacturing volumes could reduce cost per system. Don -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:44 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Excel replacement for linux on z On 3/13/2013 at 03:37 PM, Herczeg, Zoltan zol...@krasdalefoods.com wrote: Our operators run many excel vb macros for production on a windows pc. I wanted to move this workload to a virtual linux machine on our ifl. Does anyone have any suggestions for an excel replacement that will run on a linux virtual machine under z/vm? LibreOffice should be able to do that. I don't think it's a very good use of System z MIPS, however. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX- 390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: Is using System z MIPS for Office applications a good use (was: Excel replacement for linux on z)
Don Williams wrote: Is using System z MIPS for office applications a good use? I'm not sure one way or the other. Could the cost of running office applications on System z be cheaper than running them on a PC? When more types of applications run on System z, IBM could sell to more customers. IBM would need to make more z Systems. Higher manufacturing volumes could reduce cost per system. I get the list digested, so if this has already been beaten to death, apologies. The manufacturing cost per system isn't that high. The high costs are development and support. IBM doesn't *want* a zillion small z customers: that's not their business model, isn't how they'll make money. That's why there was no MP4000 (64-bit version of MP3000) released, although one was developed. That's why zPDT isn't generally available. So I'm afraid I have to agree with Mark Post's comment. ObAnecdote: Long, long ago, before Excel, Trax Softworks had ESS, a spreadsheet program that run under VM. We had it at the vendor I then worked at, as part of some swap with Trax. We didn't use it much. But then management had the idea to give the engineers (or developers, as we were known back then) bonuses based on company revenue, calculated using a formula, with values to fill in for revenue and our base salaries. One of our guys (Michael Johnson, of SHOW fame) promptly created an ESS spreadsheet and sent it around. Well, the quarter ended, and we had the company meeting and heard how great the numbers were. We all scurried back to our offices (real offices--remember those?), plugged in our numbers, and called our wives (on real phones: not cellphones, not txt, not even email; this WAS a long time ago). Imagine our surprise when we got the bonus checks the next week and they were about half what we expected! Oh...some of that revenue didn't come in, we were told. In other words, the company was lied to about revenue. And that was the end of that incentive program, since it had turned into a DISincentive. Doh. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
