Re: Interesting tweet - kvm

2012-11-26 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Sehr geehrter Herr Doerkes,

ich habe ebenfalls Interesse an Ihrer Präsentation und würde mich 
freuen, wenn Sie mir diese mailen könnten.


Vielen Dank und freundliche Grüße aus Böblingen

Thorsten Diehl

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Betreff: Re: Interesting tweet - kvm
Von: Tobias Doerkes tdoer...@hotmail.com
An: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Datum: Sat Nov 10 2012 09:21:02 GMT+0100 (CET)


Hi all,

i held a presentation 3 weeks ago im Mainz, germany at Guide-share Europe. It 
is a very (!) short howto install and use KVM on IBM System z. Just 10 sildes. 
No background information. Just a bit of compiling and installation 
verification.

These are no high quality sildes. And just a very few people tested wether the 
howto is reproducable. But i think it is a good starting point, if someone is 
interested in this topic.

Please drop me a mail offline, if you are interesed to get a copy. And i am 
very interested in getting some response back, wether it worked or not.

In the meanwhile things got further, but they are not included in the howto yet.

Kind regards,

Tobias.

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Fwd: Re: Interesting tweet - kvm

2012-11-26 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi all,

sorry for the last post in german - I assumed, that I filled in Tobias' 
address instead of the mailing list address, to request the slides of 
his presentation in Mainz.


Regards,
Thorsten Diehl

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 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff: Re: Interesting tweet - kvm
Datum: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:05:20 +0100
Von: Thorsten Diehl tdi...@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Antwort an: thorsten.di...@de.ibm.com
An: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu

Sehr geehrter Herr Doerkes,

ich habe ebenfalls Interesse an Ihrer Präsentation und würde mich
freuen, wenn Sie mir diese mailen könnten.

Vielen Dank und freundliche Grüße aus Böblingen

Thorsten Diehl

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 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff: Re: Interesting tweet - kvm
Von: Tobias Doerkes tdoer...@hotmail.com
An: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Datum: Sat Nov 10 2012 09:21:02 GMT+0100 (CET)


Hi all,

i held a presentation 3 weeks ago im Mainz, germany at Guide-share Europe. It 
is a very (!) short howto install and use KVM on IBM System z. Just 10 sildes. 
No background information. Just a bit of compiling and installation 
verification.

These are no high quality sildes. And just a very few people tested wether the 
howto is reproducable. But i think it is a good starting point, if someone is 
interested in this topic.

Please drop me a mail offline, if you are interesed to get a copy. And i am 
very interested in getting some response back, wether it worked or not.

In the meanwhile things got further, but they are not included in the howto yet.

Kind regards,

Tobias.

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Re: zfcp disk error

2011-09-22 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi Lu,
let me try to understand your setup:
1. system z9, with Ficon Express 4, z/VM is version 5.4, z/Linux is SUSE
11 SP1
2. using 4 virtual NPIV enabled zfcp adaptors   -
3. connecting via four paths via switched fabric (not point to point) to
DS8000
4. 20 Luns, each accessing via 4 paths
system z  fcp device   FCP switchDS8000 WWPN20 LUNs
Linux+-- 3300 ---5005076308034621-+-40004000...400B
LXCPOA   +-- 3F00 ---5005076308134621-+-40014000...4007
 +-- 4300 ---5005076308084621-+
 +-- 4E00 ---5005076308184621-+

Correct?

Please check the following:
1. Are all 20 LUNS member of the same Volume Group on DS8000 ?
2. You have to define host connections on DS8000 from that volume group
to each affected (NPIV-)WWPN of system z
3. The switch must have NPIV enabled. And please check correct Port
setting on the switch (most likely F_port) - both depends on your switch.
4. You have to configure a zoning on that switch, for example in that
way that you have to add to the same zone ALL affected system z WWPNs
and all affected DS8000 WWPNs that want to connect to each other.

If it does not work:
please try on a fresh system (or remove all zfcp udev info and reboot)
the manual setup with zfcp_host_configure and zfcp_disk_configure.

With kind regards
Thorsten Diehl

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Re: Largest DASD Volume to Use with RHEL 5.3 under z/VM 6.1

2011-04-19 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi Marcy,

another option to be considered is to use SCSI devices under z/VM. You
might define a large SCSI LUN and address this - including multiple
paths to that device - like a DASD.
More information can be found in z/VM docu here:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v6r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zvm.v610.hcpa5/edev.htm

And by the way, Linux also supports DASDs with more than 65520
cylinders, but this is afaik not yet supported in RHEL5.3 (These DASDs
are referred to as Model-A).

With kind regards
Thorsten Diehl

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Marcy Cortes schrieb am 04/16/2011 02:41 AM:

Oh, it's not so bad.  It's only about 22 mod 54 per Terabyte.
Once it is out there and done (scripts are your friend) there's little 
management to it.
We have one server with  than 110 mod 54.

What are you going to put on it Kyle?  That may indicate whether the 
performance will work for you w/o PAV.


Marcy

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On 4/15/2011 at 08:21 PM, Kyle Stewartkyle.stew...@zionsbancorp.com  wrote:

We are implementing another RHEL 5.3 under z/VM 6.1.  The folks we are doing
this for would like 1-2TB of data.  Can RHEL 5.3 use mod 54s?


Yes.  Linux doesn't care about model numbers.


What are the
down sides?


Without the use of PAV, performance.  z/VM can only start one I/O to a 
subchannel at a time.  The more data you have on one subchannel, the more you 
might wait to get at it.


Would I be better off with mod 27s and if so, why?  Thanks in
advance.


I would say that for that amount of data, you would be better off using SCSI 
over FCP.  Trying to build up very large file systems with DASD (and LVM) is a 
pain to manage.


Mark Post

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Re: Debian version for zSeries

2010-11-24 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hello,

z/VM 5.3 is in fact the earliest supported Version on system z10, but
I'd better say: It was! z/VM 5.3 is out of service since 09/30/2010.
http://www.vm.ibm.com/zvm530/
http://www.vm.ibm.com/techinfo/lpmigr/VMLEOS.HTML
It is highly recommended to upgrade to Version 5.4 with a recent RSU
(e.g. 1003, at least RSU 1002).
http://www.vm.ibm.com/service/rsu/stk540.html
http://www.vm.ibm.com/service/rsu/esa540.html
However, just for playing around 5.3 might do it as well.

With kind regards
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John Schnitzler Jr schrieb am 17.11.2010 14:59:

Hello

I`m looking for debian version for zSeries (64 bits), Is it available?
Where can I found it?
If not available, what kind of problems can I have if run 31bits version
using zvm 4.4 and a
z10 processor using CP not IFL.

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Carlos,

z/VM 4.4 is not supported on the z10. Will it even run? Maybe, but since it
is not supported, it wasn't tested. The earliest z/VM to be supported on
the z10 was 5.3 and it required compatibility support. Since z/VM 4.4 is
also End of Service, no support is available in case you do run into
issues. Just wanted to make sure you aware of the fact that running Debian
may not be your only issue.

Regards,
John

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Re: Debian 5 install under VM

2010-04-09 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi Frank,

looks like coreutils and awk packages are not installed.
(basename and cut are part of coreutils.)
BTW, which version of s390-tools do you use? Looks a pretty old one  1.8.0.
I highly encourage you to verify this with a newer version. AFAICS
lsdasd has been changed in s390-tools version 1.8.0
The most recent is 1.8.4
Please have a look at
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/linux390/s390-tools.html

With kind regards
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Frank M. Ramaekers schrieb am 08.04.2010 19:56:

I just got Debian install under VM and upon the first boot, after
installation, I'm getting:



/dev/dasdd1: clean, 15/150480 files, 26742/600816 blocks

boot: clean, 19/31264 files, 4961/31248 blocks

/dev/dasda1 is mounted.  e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.





fsck died with exit status 8



Thu Apr  8 17:42:22 2010





So, it aborts and goes into maintenance mode.  I've tried umount'ing
/dev/dasdd1 and running the fsck manually, but that didn't help.



lsdasd


/sbin/lsdasd: line 28: basename: command not found


/sbin/lsdasd: line 30: cut: command not found


/sbin/lsdasd: line 39: awk: command not found


0.0.0201(ECKD) at ( 94: 0) is dasda   : active at blocksize:
4096, 600840 blocks, 2347 MB

0.0.0200(ECKD) at ( 94: 4) is dasdb   : active at blocksize:
4096, 600840 blocks, 2347 MB

0.0.0203(ECKD) at ( 94: 8) is dasdc   : active at blocksize:
4096, 600840 blocks, 2347 MB

0.0.0202(ECKD) at ( 94:12) is dasdd   : active at blocksize:
4096, 600840 blocks, 2347 MB



mount

/dev/dasdc1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)

tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755)

proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)

sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)

udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)

tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)

devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)



cat /etc/fstab

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.

#

# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass

proc/proc   procdefaults0   0

/dev/dasdc1 /   ext3errors=remount-ro 0   1

/dev/dasdd1 /boot   ext3defaults0   2

/dev/dasdb1 /home   ext3defaults0   2

/dev/dasda1 /usrext3defaults0   2



df -h

FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on

/dev/dasdc1   2.3G  1.1G  1.1G  52% /

tmpfs 379M 0  379M   0% /lib/init/rw

udev   10M  208K  9.8M   3% /dev

tmpfs 379M 0  379M   0% /dev/shm



Looks similar to:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=445148



Ideas?



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Re: SET RUN ON

2010-03-31 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hello Ashwin,

I bet, Itai meant TERM HOLD OFF - let me comment:
 SET RUN ON
 TERM MORE 0 0
 TERM HOLD OFF
TERM HOLD OFF prevents the running console to enter Holding state when
a CP message comes up.

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Bhemidhi, Ashwin schrieb am 29.03.2010 21:13:

Hello Itai,

What option did you set on TERM HOLD on or off.

Thank you,
Ashwin Bhemidhi



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Hello,
Our shop uses:
SET RUN ON
TERM MORE 0 0
TERM HOLD

This is not a bullet proof method but it prevents most cases of
Freezing guest.



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Samir,

I think that CP READ really 'freeze' the operating system on second
level.

Try configure #CP TERM MORE 0 0, for that this problem not happen again.

Regards,

Fernando

2010/3/24 Samir Reddahi samir.redd...@securex.be


A computer that had a couple of vm linux consoles open had some

network

connection problems. The consoles had no network connection for a

while

and came in CP READ.
SET RUN ON is active on all our VM guests, but when the consoles came

in

CP READ the machines were stopped and there was no activity till my
collegues logged in on the consoles en answered the CP READ.
I wasn't in the office at that moment.

I thought that SET RUN ON should prevent a freeze of the guest in case

of

a CP READ. Has anybody any idea what the reason could be?

linux05:~ # hcp query set
MSG ON  , WNG ON  , EMSG ON  , ACNT OFF, RUN ON
LINEDIT ON , TIMER OFF , ISAM OFF, ECMODE ON
ASSIST OFF   , PAGEX OFF, AUTOPOLL OFF
IMSG ON  , SMSG OFF , AFFINITY NONE   , NOTRAN OFF
VMSAVE OFF, 370E OFF
STBYPASS OFF   , STMULTI OFF   00/000
MIH OFF , VMCONIO OFF , CPCONIO OFF , SVCACCL OFF , CONCEAL OFF
MACHINE ESA, SVC76 CP, NOPDATA OFF, IOASSIST OFF
CCWTRAN ON, 370ACCOM OFF, TIMEBOMB IDLE

He weird part is I tried to simulate this issue on a test LPAR with VM

5.4

but there it works as it should. A console in CP READ doesn't freeze

the

system.
The problem occured on a VM 5.3 LPAR so I'll try to simulate the

problem

on the VM 5.3 LPAR tomorrow and update you on my findings.



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Re: NPIV known problems?

2009-10-07 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Sue,

when NPIV is switched off, the zfcp adaptor has a single, general WWPN
for each virtual adapter (on the same PCHID)
Now, if you turn on NPIV, your FCP host adapter gets a bunch of
different, new WWPNs for each virtual adapter (LPAR/VM guest).
Thus, these new WWPNs have to be configured in your SAN switch - or you
encounter the problems you had.

After that, san_disc is a good tool to proceed with.

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Raymond Higgs schrieb am 10/07/2009 02:40 AM:

Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 10/06/2009 06:33:00
PM:


Sue Sivets ssiv...@fdrinnovation.com
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Subject

NPIV known problems?

Does anyone know if there are any known problems with NPIV and Suse 10
SP2? We're trying to add NPIV to one of our Suse 10 test systems, and
having a spectacularly unsuccessful time.

When we turned the NPIV bit on, we lost access to all the fcp dasd that
had been working without any problems, so we turned NPIV off on the
original channel, and added another channel;  all the defined fcp
devices started working again, and then we turned NPIV on for the new
channel. VM can see the new channel and the addresses that have been
dedicated to the Suse test system. Suse can see the channel, and reports
the following during boot:

scsi3 : zfcp
zfcp: The adapter 0.0.f101 reported the following characteristics:
WWNN 0x5005076400c36e0d, WWPN 0xc05076fd6b000784, S_ID 0x00701401,
adapter version 0x4, LIC version 0x70e, FC link speed 4 Gb/s
zfcp: Switched fabric fibrechannel network detected at adapter 0.0.f101.

However, when we go into yast2, the fcp function cannot (or will not)
define a new device on the new NPIV channel address. It sees the channel
address when it does the scan during startup (the address shows up in
the add a device pulldown box), but most of the time it doesn't seem to
like the WWPN, and we've tried every WWPN we've been able to find that
looked like it might work. We can see the channel and the address on the
HMC, and the switch. So far, it looks like we can see the NPIV channel
where ever we look, but that's about it.

Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.

Thank you.

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I would try to use san_disc to see what is in your fabric.  There is a
good example in the san_disc manpage.  Follow the example through -c
PORT_LIST.  If you do not see the WWPN of your storage array, then it is
probably a zoning issue.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Datacenter Move

2009-07-10 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi Russel,

if your IP address remains, there is no need to change the default gw.
But:
Besides your mentioned two steps you should also delete the following
file: /etc/udev/rules.d/30-net_persistent_names.rules
since it would cause to stick eth0 to your old address triple of qeth
devices, while the new address triple would be handled as eth1.
If you remove this file, however, it will be automatically recreated
during first boot, and your new address triple will become eth0.

With kind regards
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Jones, Russell schrieb am 09.07.2009 17:00:

I am running SUSE 10 in an LPAR. We are in the process datacenter
consolidation, and we will be moving all of our systems to a new
datacenter. After the move, the only changes should be the ip address
and he OSA device address. DASD addresses will all be the same.

The steps that I am aware of to make the changes are:

1. Rename /etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.oldaddress to
/etc/sysconfig/hardware/hwcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.newaddress, and change
addresses inside the file.

2. Rename /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.oldaddress to
/etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-qeth-bus-ccw-0.0.newaddress, and change
device addresses and the ip address inside the file.

I planned to pre-stage the new files in another directory. After IPLing
at the new datacenter, I would move the new files to the appropriate
directory and delete the old files from the HMC, and re-ipl. (Hopefully
with ip connectivity)

Is this all that I need to do? I just want to be sure that I am not
missing anything.

Thanks,

Russell Jones
ANPAC
System Programmer Trainee
rjo...@anpac.com

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Re: Who is using SCSI devices behind a SAN gateway?

2009-07-08 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi Mark,

the background behind my question is, whether I should extend or improve
testing on this setup (devices not natively attached, but behind a SAN
Gateway). If there are (besides IBM and Novell) only two or three
customers, I will stay at the actual basic tests.

With kind regards
Thorsten Diehl

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Mark Post wrote on 07.07.2009 22:29:

On 7/7/2009 at  1:43 PM, Thorsten Diehl tdi...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

Hi Mark,

well, my wording was not precise enough. Thus I just changed the subject.
I'm not interested in the details of the commonly used fibre channel
attached (switched fabric) environments, but in the setups where
customers have (Ultra-)SCSI Devices attached via a SAN Gateway.
The latter seems to be a kind of exotic setup - or am I wrong?


Hmm, I really don't know.  Novell's z10 has DLT tapes and a DVD-ROM behind our 
SAN Gateway, but I can't say whether many of our customers do.  Again, though, 
why are you asking?


Mark Post

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Who is using zfcp attached SCSI devices?

2009-07-07 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi all,

I'm curious and would like to know, who is using zfcp attached SCSI
devices.
If you like, please answer the following questions:
1. Type (Manufacturer/Model) of the SAN Gateway/Bridge
2. Category, Type and number of attached SCSI devices (e.g. SCSI Tapes,
DVD drives, disks)
3. Your experience with the SAN gateway (configuration, reliability)
4. How often do you use the attached devices (daily, rarely, ) and
for which purpose

Authentic example:
1. IBM 2108-G07 SAN gateway (aka PATHLIGHT)
2. 1x SCSI-DVD-ROM, 1x IDE-DVD-Multiburner via IDE-SCSI-Converter, 1x
4mm DDS3 SCSI Tape
3. easy to configure, runs without problems
4. regularly, for system z Linux installations via SCSI DVD (no ftp
server required).

Thanks in advance for your response!

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Re: Who is using zfcp attached SCSI devices?

2009-07-07 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi Rick, hi all,
thanks for your responses so far.

To be a little more precise: I meant your environment behind a SAN
Gateway/Bridge, not natively attached zfcp devices.

With kind regards
Thorsten Diehl

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Richard Troth schrieb am 07.07.2009 16:32:

We use SAN attached disk at my shop.  I should refrain from indicating
which vendor (in this context) because I should not convey some kind
endorsement.  We do not presently use SAN attached tape nor CD or DVD.


The devices are connected via switched fabric (yet another vendor used
for the switches), both production and dev/test.  The production
volumes are replicated to secondary copies for disaster recovery.
(dev/test vols are not replicated)  The production volumes are in
demand 24x7 so we lean heavily on the dual path capability:  When one
path is taken down either for service or because of an error the other
carries the traffic.  (This is a customer-facing workload.)


Once things are configured, they run without problems.


If you are using SLES 10, you will want to be on SP2 for improved SCSI
stack behavior.  We encountered periodic filesystem errors resulting
in some filesystems being switched read-only (to prevent damage) on
both VMware hosted i386 and x86_64 and z/VM hosted s390x Linux guests
with SLES 10 SP1.  (I cannot report on this problem on RHEL.  Not
enough data there.)


I STRONGLY RECOMMEND that people considering SAN look into EDEV where
z/VM will present SAN disks as 9336 equivalent FBA DASD.  This allows
the storage to be managed via the CP Directory, so that your SAN
backed storage can be managed as effectively as your ECKD backed
storage.  We could not take this route initially because at the time
EDEV lacked dynamic path controls (presently an open req with IBM).
As a result, we plug our Linux guests directly into the fabric.  This
has some value points, notably reduced I/O overhead, but presents a
serious storage management burden.


Vendors: Mixed IPL from installation media would be nice.  What I mean
is, if a disk is attached via SAN, support the SAN IPL method,
obviously.  But if a disk is attached via EDEV, also support the DASD
IPL method.  The two should coexist quite well on any CD or DVD.
Clearly the 'zipl' bootstrap already contains everything that is
needed.  Using an ISO 9660 filesystem gives ample room for the
bootstrap.


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On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 09:34, Thorsten Diehltdi...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

Hi all,

I'm curious and would like to know, who is using zfcp attached SCSI
devices.
If you like, please answer the following questions:
1. Type (Manufacturer/Model) of the SAN Gateway/Bridge
2. Category, Type and number of attached SCSI devices (e.g. SCSI Tapes,
DVD drives, disks)
3. Your experience with the SAN gateway (configuration, reliability)
4. How often do you use the attached devices (daily, rarely, ) and
for which purpose

Authentic example:
1. IBM 2108-G07 SAN gateway (aka PATHLIGHT)
2. 1x SCSI-DVD-ROM, 1x IDE-DVD-Multiburner via IDE-SCSI-Converter, 1x
4mm DDS3 SCSI Tape
3. easy to configure, runs without problems
4. regularly, for system z Linux installations via SCSI DVD (no ftp
server required).

Thanks in advance for your response!

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Re: Who is using SCSI devices behind a SAN gateway?

2009-07-07 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi Mark,

well, my wording was not precise enough. Thus I just changed the subject.
I'm not interested in the details of the commonly used fibre channel
attached (switched fabric) environments, but in the setups where
customers have (Ultra-)SCSI Devices attached via a SAN Gateway.
The latter seems to be a kind of exotic setup - or am I wrong?

With kind regards
Thorsten Diehl

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Mark Post schrieb am 07.07.2009 18:31:

On 7/7/2009 at  9:34 AM, Thorsten Diehl tdi...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

Hi all,

I'm curious and would like to know, who is using zfcp attached SCSI
devices.


Hi, Thorsten,

I'm curious as to why you're curious.  I'm aware of a number of my customers 
using SCSI over FCP.  If your interest is more than idle curiosity, I might be 
able to get the information directly from them, since many of them don't read 
this list.


Mark Post

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Re: SUSE 9 on Mupltiprise 3000

2009-04-15 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi John,

UNIT=CTC should be correct, see pages 41  42 in
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245669.pdf

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Fridrich, John schrieb am 08.04.2009 01:43:

Thorsten...

Also... How would these things be defined in the IOCSD.
I have them currently defined as follows...
CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=FC10,PATH=(FC),UNITADD=((10,001)),UNIT=CTC
CNTLUNIT CUNUMBR=FC11,PATH=(FC),UNITADD=((11,001)),UNIT=CTC
IODEVICE ADDRESS=160,CUNUMBR=FC10,UNIT=CTC,UNITADD=10
IODEVICE ADDRESS=161,CUNUMBR=FC11,UNIT=CTC,UNITADD=11
What should the UNIT= be???

Thanks, JohnF


On 4/2/09 5:55 AM, Thorsten Diehl tdi...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

Hi John,

I installed a few years ago SLES 9 SP2 on a MP3000, but not long after
that the machine has retired

Did you ever succeed in installing any other older Version on this
configured machine, to be sure, that the basic network settings are
correct? If not, the following (old) instructions might help you:

How to solve install problems related to the network adaptor on a MP3000

 Open an OS/2 window on the Support Element (use Desktop on call if
 you are working on an HMC) and enter mpts
 Press configure twice
 Write down the adapter number of the adaptor(s) with IBM IEEE 802.2
 only(!)
 Press cancel - cancel - exit

 Doubleclick on Emulated I/O Configuration in the CPC configuration
 menu (use Desktop on call if you are working on an HMC)
 Press enter and F2 to view the active device map
 Write down the addresses of the 3088 devices (e.g. 20/21 or 22/23)
 (If you have to edit the device map, be sure that the device map
 number corresponds to the IOCDS number!!)
 Press ESC - F10 - F10 to leave without changing anything. - If you
 want to save your changes, press ESC - F6 -F10.

 Doubleclick on Console Actions and Network Diagnostic Information
 Lookup the above noted adaptor number and its associated MAC address
 Write down this MAC address.

 Doubleclick on Input/Output (I/O) Configuration in the CPC
 configuration menu.
 Open the source of the appropriate IOCDS. (The IOCDS number must
 correspond to the device map number!!)
 Lookup the line where the UNITADD equals to the smaller address of
 the above noted 3088 device.
 Write down the CUNUMBR of this line.
 Lookup the line starting with IODEVICE and with the CUNUMBR as noted
 above. Write down the corresponding ADDRESS. (This is the address
 required for the lcs driver.)

 after IPL:
 when the Network device number is requested: enter the IODEVICE
 ADDRESS as noted above.
 when the Relative port is requested: enter the adaptor number (from
 mpts)
 verify whether the shown hw_address is the MAC address noted above

In this case the network adaptor is properly set up and it should work
correctly.

It is _IMPORTANT_ that you disable TCP/IP for the adaptors you want to
be emulated as LCS device and use IBM IEEE 802.2 only, nothing else.
Only for the Support Element's LAN Adaptor you need TCP/IP in addition.
Not for the adaptors to be passed through.
That has been the most common configuration error.

With kind regards
Thorsten Diehl

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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:48:10 -0700
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From: Fridrich, John jfridr...@sjgov.org
Subject:  SUSE 9 on Mupltiprise 3000

Hey out there...

Has anyone installed SUSE 9 under z/VM 4.4 on a Multiprise 3000 (7060)???
I have the boot-strap installed and working up to the network part...
Can't ping outside the machine so I can't FTP the install back in.
Not sure how to configure... or what network interface to use... The 7060
is an odd machine...
I've tried the emulated ethernet cards, CTC to VM's IP stack, and directly
to the BUSTECH MAN (ESCON attached LCS device) that I run all of my IP
traffic through (3270 sessions and VSE's IP stack)...
All with no luck... $...@...


John Fridrich
Systems Programmer
San Joaquin County ISD
24 S. Hunter St., Rm5
Stockton, CA 95202
209-468-8413


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Re: SUSE 9 on Mupltiprise 3000

2009-04-07 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi John,

one very common mistake is to enter an incorrect number for the relative
port. - Please read my previous intructions very thoroughly.
Usually the relative port 0 belongs to the TCP/IP enabled adaptor that
is used by OS/2. The next adaptors (as listed in mpts) get the numbers
from 1 incementing.

Which kind of adaptors do you ahve installed?
If you have Ethernet adaptors, there is another trick required to change
the ethernet protocol from IBM to DIX and to assign the slot numbers.
Please read chapter 3.9, pages 44 to 46 in
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245633.pdf

Additionally you can find useful documentation here:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245669.pdf

I have no MP3000 any more, so I can't run a trial installation of SLES9 SP4.

With kind regards
Thorsten Diehl

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Fridrich, John schrieb am 06.04.2009 22:50:

Hey Thorsten

Below is SLES 9 list of network connection.
Not sure which applies to the MP3000 emulated adapters if any???
My definitions for them appear to be ok...
I tried option 1 and it didn't work... eth0 detected, expected tr0... which 
made sense.
Tried option 2... it found some drivers and displayed the correct mac address.
But it hangs and put my machines processor at 100%.

Please select the type of your network device:
0) no network
1) OSA Token Ring (lcs)
2) OSA Ethernet
3) OSA-Gigabit Ethernet or OSA-Express Fast Ethernet
4) Channel To Channel
5) Escon
6) IUCV
8) Hipersockets
9) OSA High speed Token Ring (qdio)
10) Show subchannels and detected devices
Enter your choice (0-10):

Thanks for you help...

JohnF

On 4/2/09 5:55 AM, Thorsten Diehl tdi...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

Hi John,

I installed a few years ago SLES 9 SP2 on a MP3000, but not long after
that the machine has retired

Did you ever succeed in installing any other older Version on this
configured machine, to be sure, that the basic network settings are
correct? If not, the following (old) instructions might help you:

How to solve install problems related to the network adaptor on a MP3000

 Open an OS/2 window on the Support Element (use Desktop on call if
 you are working on an HMC) and enter mpts
 Press configure twice
 Write down the adapter number of the adaptor(s) with IBM IEEE 802.2
 only(!)
 Press cancel - cancel - exit

 Doubleclick on Emulated I/O Configuration in the CPC configuration
 menu (use Desktop on call if you are working on an HMC)
 Press enter and F2 to view the active device map
 Write down the addresses of the 3088 devices (e.g. 20/21 or 22/23)
 (If you have to edit the device map, be sure that the device map
 number corresponds to the IOCDS number!!)
 Press ESC - F10 - F10 to leave without changing anything. - If you
 want to save your changes, press ESC - F6 -F10.

 Doubleclick on Console Actions and Network Diagnostic Information
 Lookup the above noted adaptor number and its associated MAC address
 Write down this MAC address.

 Doubleclick on Input/Output (I/O) Configuration in the CPC
 configuration menu.
 Open the source of the appropriate IOCDS. (The IOCDS number must
 correspond to the device map number!!)
 Lookup the line where the UNITADD equals to the smaller address of
 the above noted 3088 device.
 Write down the CUNUMBR of this line.
 Lookup the line starting with IODEVICE and with the CUNUMBR as noted
 above. Write down the corresponding ADDRESS. (This is the address
 required for the lcs driver.)

 after IPL:
 when the Network device number is requested: enter the IODEVICE
 ADDRESS as noted above.
 when the Relative port is requested: enter the adaptor number (from
 mpts)
 verify whether the shown hw_address is the MAC address noted above

In this case the network adaptor is properly set up and it should work
correctly.

It is _IMPORTANT_ that you disable TCP/IP for the adaptors you want to
be emulated as LCS device and use IBM IEEE 802.2 only, nothing else.
Only for the Support Element's LAN Adaptor you need TCP/IP in addition.
Not for the adaptors to be passed through.
That has been the most common configuration error.

With kind regards
Thorsten Diehl

IBM Deutschland Research  Development GmbH
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Martin Jetter
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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:48:10 -0700
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From: Fridrich, John jfridr...@sjgov.org
Subject:  SUSE 9 on Mupltiprise

Re: SLES11 install

2009-04-03 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi Mark,

please omit the OSAHWaddr! However, in that case booting the instsys
will not run unattended anymore. When the setup routine asks for the MAC
address, please leave it blank (press enter twice under z/VM) and the
remainder should work.

By the way, it has been a good practice to limit the parmfile to 9
lines; maybe that this restriction is no more valid.

With kind regards
Thorsten Diehl

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Mark Pace schrieb am 02.04.2009 21:49:

Has anyone successfully installed SLES11 using a Layer2 vswitch?  I've
installed using layer3 vswitch then migrated to a layer2.  Also installed
via hipersockets.  But can't do an install on a layer2 switch.
checking CCW address 0.0.1d00

checking CCW address 0.0.1d01

checking CCW address 0.0.1d02

(portname vswtch1)

(Layer2)

qeth.933eb7: register layer 2 discipline

(Port 0)

qdio: 0.0.1d02 OSA on SC 3 using AI:1 QEBSM:0 PCI:1 TDD:1 SIGA:RW AO

qeth.e13e5b: 0.0.1d00: MAC address 02:00:85:00:00:06 successfully registered
on device eth0
qeth.736dae: 0.0.1d00: Device is a Guest LAN QDIO card (level: V541)

with link type GuestLAN QDIO (portname: vswtch1)

ccwgroup 0.0.1d00 has network IF eth0

*** glibc detected *** /init: free(): invalid pointer: 0x038ea4e4
***
Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!

HCPGIR450W CP entered; disabled wait PSW 00020001 8000 
00110E8A

My parm file.
ramdisk_size=131072 root=/dev/ram1 ro init=/linuxrc TERM=dumb
HostIP=199.44.xxx.xx Gateway=199.44.xxx.x Nameserver=199.44.xx.xx
HostName=host.domain OSAHWaddr=02-00-85-00-00-06
InstNetDev=osa Netmask=255.255.255.128 Broadcast=199.44.xxx.xxx
OsaInterface=qdio OsaMedium=eth Layer2=1
ReadChannel=0.0.1d00 Writechannel=0.0.1d01 DataChannel=0.0.1d02
Portname=vswtch1 PortNo=0
Install=ftp://user:p...@199.44.xxx.xx/DVD1
UseSSH=1 SSHPassword=pass
linuxrclog=/dev/console
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Re: SUSE 9 on Mupltiprise 3000

2009-04-02 Thread Thorsten Diehl

Hi John,

I installed a few years ago SLES 9 SP2 on a MP3000, but not long after
that the machine has retired

Did you ever succeed in installing any other older Version on this
configured machine, to be sure, that the basic network settings are
correct? If not, the following (old) instructions might help you:

How to solve install problems related to the network adaptor on a MP3000

Open an OS/2 window on the Support Element (use Desktop on call if
you are working on an HMC) and enter mpts
Press configure twice
Write down the adapter number of the adaptor(s) with IBM IEEE 802.2
only(!)
Press cancel - cancel - exit

Doubleclick on Emulated I/O Configuration in the CPC configuration
menu (use Desktop on call if you are working on an HMC)
Press enter and F2 to view the active device map
Write down the addresses of the 3088 devices (e.g. 20/21 or 22/23)
(If you have to edit the device map, be sure that the device map
number corresponds to the IOCDS number!!)
Press ESC - F10 - F10 to leave without changing anything. - If you
want to save your changes, press ESC - F6 -F10.

Doubleclick on Console Actions and Network Diagnostic Information
Lookup the above noted adaptor number and its associated MAC address
Write down this MAC address.

Doubleclick on Input/Output (I/O) Configuration in the CPC
configuration menu.
Open the source of the appropriate IOCDS. (The IOCDS number must
correspond to the device map number!!)
Lookup the line where the UNITADD equals to the smaller address of
the above noted 3088 device.
Write down the CUNUMBR of this line.
Lookup the line starting with IODEVICE and with the CUNUMBR as noted
above. Write down the corresponding ADDRESS. (This is the address
required for the lcs driver.)

after IPL:
when the Network device number is requested: enter the IODEVICE
ADDRESS as noted above.
when the Relative port is requested: enter the adaptor number (from
mpts)
verify whether the shown hw_address is the MAC address noted above

In this case the network adaptor is properly set up and it should work
correctly.

It is _IMPORTANT_ that you disable TCP/IP for the adaptors you want to
be emulated as LCS device and use IBM IEEE 802.2 only, nothing else.
Only for the Support Element's LAN Adaptor you need TCP/IP in addition.
Not for the adaptors to be passed through.
That has been the most common configuration error.

With kind regards
Thorsten Diehl

IBM Deutschland Research  Development GmbH
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Martin Jetter
Geschaeftsfuehrung: Erich Baier
Sitz der Gesellschaft: Boeblingen
Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 243294



- Forwarded by Thorsten Diehl/Germany/IBM on 03/31/2009 08:20 AM -

Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:48:10 -0700
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From: Fridrich, John jfridr...@sjgov.org
Subject:  SUSE 9 on Mupltiprise 3000

Hey out there...

Has anyone installed SUSE 9 under z/VM 4.4 on a Multiprise 3000 (7060)???
I have the boot-strap installed and working up to the network part...
Can't ping outside the machine so I can't FTP the install back in.
Not sure how to configure... or what network interface to use... The 7060
is an odd machine...
I've tried the emulated ethernet cards, CTC to VM's IP stack, and directly
to the BUSTECH MAN (ESCON attached LCS device) that I run all of my IP
traffic through (3270 sessions and VSE's IP stack)...
All with no luck... $...@...


John Fridrich
Systems Programmer
San Joaquin County ISD
24 S. Hunter St., Rm5
Stockton, CA 95202
209-468-8413


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