Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Paul,

As someone else pointed out, VM still can get some additional performance
out of expanded storage.  Someone else mentioned xpram, but perhaps the best
use is Vdisk for swap.  Linux can swap all it wants to the vdisk, and VM
will see if parts of that aren't being referenced, and page it out to disk.
I'm pretty sure that if you devote part of expanded to xpram, it will all be
marked as unusable by anyone else.

Mark Post

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From: paultz [mailto:paultz@;ucia.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:40 PM
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If I had a 'green with envy' emoticon, I'd use it here.

But since I'm stuck in the past, tell me why you don't configure a 64
bit machine running a 64 bit OS as all real storage?  I thought expanded
was to be a thing of the past?  But as I said, z boxes are just a day
dream for me.

Paul


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We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig expanded. How
do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the IFL engine
dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall proxy access
denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.



Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Robert J Brenneman
It has been said that the VM paging algorithms are tuned for 3 levels of
storage, and you will get better performance by giving VM some XSTORE to
play with. I would start with 5 gig of central and 1 gig of expanded
storage, and play with the ratio from there.

Here is a nice writeup on this:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/perf/tips/storconf.html


Linux can also use expanded storage for a very fast swap device. The xpram
driver will provide access to the xstore as if it were any other block
device. Just modprobe xpram ; mkswap /dev/slram0 ; swapon /dev/slram0 and
away you go.


Jay Brenneman





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We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig expanded. How
do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the IFL engine
dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall proxy access
denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.



Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread paultz
If I had a 'green with envy' emoticon, I'd use it here.

But since I'm stuck in the past, tell me why you don't configure a 64
bit machine running a 64 bit OS as all real storage?  I thought expanded
was to be a thing of the past?  But as I said, z boxes are just a day
dream for me.

Paul


=

We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig expanded. How
do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the IFL engine
dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall proxy access
denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.



Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread McKown, John
I set up my z/800 z/VM LPAR to be all Central Storage, no Expanded. z/VM
supports this. The Linux/390 guests can then use this storage. Linux/390
cannot, to the best of my knowledge, use Expanded Storage at all. Since z/VM
and z/Linux are both running 64 bit, this should work well. Note that I
haven't actually installed z/VM and Linux on this system yet.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Ann Smith [mailto:annsmith@;thehartford.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Expanded Storage Question
>
>
> We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
> engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig
> expanded. How
> do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the
> IFL engine
> dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
> tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall
> proxy access
> denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.
>



Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Ann,

You're going to want to configure some of that for expanded as well.  Just
how to split it up, I really couldn't say.  I'm sure (hey Barton!) someone
on the list would be better qualified than I.

M.  z800's.  M.

Mark Post

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From: Ann Smith [mailto:annsmith@;thehartford.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Expanded Storage Question


We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig expanded. How
do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the IFL engine
dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall proxy access
denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.



Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Ann Smith
We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig expanded. How
do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the IFL engine
dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall proxy access
denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.