Re: Presentations from March 15 Hillgang meeting available for do wnload

2005-03-17 Thread Post, Mark K
To me, not at all important.  To the site's sponsor, that's perhaps a very
different matter.  (Who, for the record, has been very good to me and hence
this community.)

I'll be thinking and talking about this whole topic with others for a while.
In the meantime, to stave off the wolves at the front door (overly harsh
imagery, I know, but it's what came to mind), I've put some of the more
important items from the last month or so on the main page.


Mark Post

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One question: how important is it that the site be hosted on a CMS-based WWW
server? If not at all (or it's not a question of resources on the hosting
machine), use of a Linux-based content management system running as a guest
might be an elegant solution.

At least Drupal is known to work nicely on mainframe Linux, and I'd be
willing to supply a drop-in appliance Linux system that could support such
an approach. From there, it's just content migration and some DNS hacking.
It also might be a good opportunity to mirror the site elsewhere in case of
connectivity problems (there are excellent tools for that in Linux that I
don't think work on the CMS WWW servers).

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Re: Presentations from March 15 Hillgang meeting available for do wnload

2005-03-17 Thread Post, Mark K
My links to them are on http://linuxvm.org/Present/

The actual PDF files reside on Sine Nomine's web site at
http://sinenomine.net/vm/hillgang-15-mar-2005  You can find the archives of
this mailing list by looking at the bottom of every email you receive from
the list.


Mark Post

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I missed the original post regarding the presentations.  Where can I find
those?  Is there a link to them?

Aaron

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Re: Presentations from March 15 Hillgang meeting available for do wnload

2005-03-17 Thread Fulton, Aaron
I missed the original post regarding the presentations.  Where can I
find those?  Is there a link to them?

Aaron 

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> I'm still not sure what to do about all this.  Others have
> recommended using
> some sort of content management system for the site.  None of
> those run on
> z/VM-CMS so far as I'm aware, and that's where the site is
> hosted.  I don't
> own the domain name, so I can't arbitrarily move the site to
> a different
> host.  The domain name has gotten reasonably "famous" so I
> don't really want
> to use a different one.

One question: how important is it that the site be hosted on a CMS-based
WWW server? If not at all (or it's not a question of resources on the
hosting machine), use of a Linux-based content management system running
as a guest might be an elegant solution.

At least Drupal is known to work nicely on mainframe Linux, and I'd be
willing to supply a drop-in appliance Linux system that could support
such an approach. From there, it's just content migration and some DNS
hacking. It also might be a good opportunity to mirror the site
elsewhere in case of connectivity problems (there are excellent tools
for that in Linux that I don't think work on the CMS WWW servers).

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Re: Presentations from March 15 Hillgang meeting available for do wnload

2005-03-17 Thread David Boyes
> I'm still not sure what to do about all this.  Others have
> recommended using
> some sort of content management system for the site.  None of
> those run on
> z/VM-CMS so far as I'm aware, and that's where the site is
> hosted.  I don't
> own the domain name, so I can't arbitrarily move the site to
> a different
> host.  The domain name has gotten reasonably "famous" so I
> don't really want
> to use a different one.

One question: how important is it that the site be hosted on a CMS-based
WWW server? If not at all (or it's not a question of resources on the
hosting machine), use of a Linux-based content management system running
as a guest might be an elegant solution.

At least Drupal is known to work nicely on mainframe Linux, and I'd be
willing to supply a drop-in appliance Linux system that could support
such an approach. From there, it's just content migration and some DNS
hacking. It also might be a good opportunity to mirror the site
elsewhere in case of connectivity problems (there are excellent tools
for that in Linux that I don't think work on the CMS WWW servers).

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Re: Presentations from March 15 Hillgang meeting available for do wnload

2005-03-16 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 03:55:23PM -0500, Post, Mark K wrote:

| I've brought this up a few times before in the list.  I haven't had time to
| keep up with the mailing list traffic, so that has stagnated.  The rest of
| the site is pretty well current, however.
|
| I'm still not sure what to do about all this.  Others have recommended using
| some sort of content management system for the site.  None of those run on
| z/VM-CMS so far as I'm aware, and that's where the site is hosted.  I don't
| own the domain name, so I can't arbitrarily move the site to a different
| host.  The domain name has gotten reasonably "famous" so I don't really want
| to use a different one.

But you do know who owns it?  And they delegate site management to you?

Can you get a different hostname in the domain and redirect?


| Moving all the old stuff off, and having a largely blank main page doesn't
| sound very attractive.  Adding "last updated" tags to each link would be way
| too busy/cluttered, so I don't think I'll do that.

As old as the stuff is, I don't think it matters either way.  Do you have
the ability to put any static content in place?  Perhaps the site could be
used as a static cache for content managed somewhere else.

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Re: Presentations from March 15 Hillgang meeting available for do wnload

2005-03-16 Thread Post, Mark K
I've brought this up a few times before in the list.  I haven't had time to
keep up with the mailing list traffic, so that has stagnated.  The rest of
the site is pretty well current, however.

I'm still not sure what to do about all this.  Others have recommended using
some sort of content management system for the site.  None of those run on
z/VM-CMS so far as I'm aware, and that's where the site is hosted.  I don't
own the domain name, so I can't arbitrarily move the site to a different
host.  The domain name has gotten reasonably "famous" so I don't really want
to use a different one.

Moving all the old stuff off, and having a largely blank main page doesn't
sound very attractive.  Adding "last updated" tags to each link would be way
too busy/cluttered, so I don't think I'll do that.

I'm still considering what I'm going to do.  I'll let the list know what it
is.


Mark Post

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Hi Mark.

This may be a dumb question, but everytime I look at linuxvm.org, I find
that most of the stuff on the first page is from early 2003.  That doesn't
lead me to believe that this site is being maintained.

I do have a refreshed page as the "Last updated on: Tuesday March 15, 2005"
would lead me to believe that I do have a refreshed copy.

Just a suggestion, perhaps you can move the "old" stuff to a historical
area.  The home page of a website should always appear to be current and
have pointers to the useful information.  I assume that the links on the
left side of the page, point to current info, but you couldn't tell by the
home page.

Perhaps expanding the left column to include a "last updated date" field for
each link.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

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