Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
Hello list, I got SLES 11 SP1 installed, using a workaround. I cheated and defined an identical ID on a different CEC (z10) with the same volumes and minidisk cylinder ranges. The install went fine, so the problem was not the DASD. There seems to a combination of a different CEC (z114), a development z/VM system (which was supposed to have remained numberless - sorry) and the SLES 11 SP1 install program. I undid my workaround on the z10, detached the disks from SYSTEM, logged on to the nearly identical ID on the z114, and the system IPLed fine. So still no final resolution, but a good description of the issue (perhaps there are some test teams with their ears on :)). Again, thanks to all who replied. "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
One thing I've noticed is that SLES 11 SP1 will reorder the disks between the time you activate them and the time you go to create the partitions. It will make the lowest addressed disk dasda, and so forth. That drove me nuts just yesterday trying to install on top of an existing system. You might try making 0150 dasda and and 0151 dasdb. And I'm not sure SLES10 will fit in 2311 MB, but you haven't gotten far enough to to trip over that. Chuck Tribolet trib...@almaden.ibm.com (IBM business) trib...@garlic.com (Personal) http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet From: Michael MacIsaac/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Date: 05/17/2011 10:23 AM Subject: Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks? Sent by:Linux on 390 Port Hello list, Thanks for all the suggestions. I've tried scrubbing, I've tried soaking, but I still get ... (no, sorry, just kidding) I've tried CMS formatting, I've tried VNC, I've tried SSH with two shells, but I still get: Error │ │ No hard disks and no hard disk controllers were │ │ found for the installation. │ │ Check your hardware. *After* I activate my two minidisks, from a second shell, I can see: inst-sys:~ # cat /proc/dasd/devices 0.0.0151(ECKD) at ( 94: 0) is dasda : active at blocksize: 4096, 36000 blocks, 140 MB 0.0.0150(ECKD) at ( 94: 4) is dasdb : active at blocksize: 4096, 555840 blocks, 2171 MB inst-sys:~ # lsmod | grep dasd dasd_eckd_mod 91476 6 dasd_mod 100678 3 dasd_eckd_mod But then after formatting, as yast goes to the next screen, all is gone: inst-sys:~ # cat /proc/dasd/devices inst-sys:~ # lsmod | grep dasd So I try putting the disks back manually: inst-sys:~ # modprobe dasd_mod dasd=0.0.0150,0.0.0151 inst-sys:~ # modprobe dasd_eckd_mod inst-sys:~ # lsmod | grep dasd dasd_eckd_mod 91476 0 dasd_mod 100678 1 dasd_eckd_mod inst-sys:~ # cat /proc/dasd/devices But they're still not there. This is really strange. I can't think of anything else, so it may be a pain, but I'll try defining the two minidisks on a different CEC using the same cylinders and seeing if the install works from there. Stay tuned ... "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061
Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
Hello list, Thanks for all the suggestions. I've tried scrubbing, I've tried soaking, but I still get ... (no, sorry, just kidding) I've tried CMS formatting, I've tried VNC, I've tried SSH with two shells, but I still get: Error │ │ No hard disks and no hard disk controllers were │ │ found for the installation. │ │ Check your hardware. *After* I activate my two minidisks, from a second shell, I can see: inst-sys:~ # cat /proc/dasd/devices 0.0.0151(ECKD) at ( 94: 0) is dasda : active at blocksize: 4096, 36000 blocks, 140 MB 0.0.0150(ECKD) at ( 94: 4) is dasdb : active at blocksize: 4096, 555840 blocks, 2171 MB inst-sys:~ # lsmod | grep dasd dasd_eckd_mod 91476 6 dasd_mod 100678 3 dasd_eckd_mod But then after formatting, as yast goes to the next screen, all is gone: inst-sys:~ # cat /proc/dasd/devices inst-sys:~ # lsmod | grep dasd So I try putting the disks back manually: inst-sys:~ # modprobe dasd_mod dasd=0.0.0150,0.0.0151 inst-sys:~ # modprobe dasd_eckd_mod inst-sys:~ # lsmod | grep dasd dasd_eckd_mod 91476 0 dasd_mod 100678 1 dasd_eckd_mod inst-sys:~ # cat /proc/dasd/devices But they're still not there. This is really strange. I can't think of anything else, so it may be a pain, but I'll try defining the two minidisks on a different CEC using the same cylinders and seeing if the install works from there. Stay tuned ... "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061
Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
Yes, As i recall our solution in the end was to zero the first cylinder of device/minidisk and that cured it. I think we did that in the kickstart with a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/dasda bs=1024 count=32 count and bs may be wrong but you get the idea Since it's only the head of the disk that contains the info that confuses the script this was a simple method William D Carroll Mainframe Engineering, Build Office: 614-677-3885 Email: carrol...@nationwide.com From: Scott Rohling To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 05/17/2011 09:25 AM Subject: Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks? Sent by: Linux on 390 Port Hi Doug - Yes, it does seem similar if CMS formatting was really the cure -- unfortunately, my memory isn't real reliable in this case. It could be that the experience we had with RHEL5 makes me try this as possibility now too ;-) What I'm trying to do by CMS formatting the disk is eliminating any possible Linux formatting that is already there.. I have found things like leftover LVM info (from another guest) can confuse things. Linux formatting the disk also works (e.g. using Sine Nomine's LXFMT instead of FORMAT) and avoids needing to format during the install. Most of the issues I've run into with both RH/Suse are with disks that weren't 'cleaned' and came from a previous guest. One nice solution I've implemented in the past is to have the DIRMAINT 'clean' exit issue LXFMT instead of FORMAT so that all DASD returned is already Linux formatted.. but it's usefulness depends on whether you use the same size minidisks for all guests. (I tend to use 1-END disks and not chop up volumes). Scott Rohling On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:07 AM, William Carroll wrote: > Scott > > Doesn't this remind you of the issue we had with RHEL5 and it not > recognizing the dasd during a kickstart? > basically if we CMS formatted it worked but a dasdfmt didn't and we got a > "do you wish to format this volume" or similar message. > it was because RH changed the scripts method of checking the dasd for that > issue as I recall. > RH i think was trying to make the script more common between platforms. > > Not saying Suee is doing the same thing but sounds like a similar issue? > > Just sounds like a similar issue. > > William D Carroll > Mainframe Engineering, Build > Office: 614-677-3885 > Email: carrol...@nationwide.com > > > > From: > Scott Rohling > To: > LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Date: > 05/17/2011 08:36 AM > Subject: > Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks? > Sent by: > Linux on 390 Port > > > > Hi Mike - I do recall running into this.. but it's been a few months. Have > you retried the install now that the disks are formatted? IIRC, I was > able > to get through the install on my 2nd attempt. It could be that I ended > up > formatting the disks with CMS and then retrying - my memory is hazy. I > suspected a bug but was in a hurry at the time and just trying to get > through an install.. > > Scott Rohling > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Michael MacIsaac > wrote: > > > Rogerio, > > > > > did you attach dasd to the guest ? > > They are minidisks. There was no error message when logging onto the > > virtual machine. Thanks. > > > > "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.
Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
Hi Doug - Yes, it does seem similar if CMS formatting was really the cure -- unfortunately, my memory isn't real reliable in this case. It could be that the experience we had with RHEL5 makes me try this as possibility now too ;-) What I'm trying to do by CMS formatting the disk is eliminating any possible Linux formatting that is already there.. I have found things like leftover LVM info (from another guest) can confuse things. Linux formatting the disk also works (e.g. using Sine Nomine's LXFMT instead of FORMAT) and avoids needing to format during the install. Most of the issues I've run into with both RH/Suse are with disks that weren't 'cleaned' and came from a previous guest. One nice solution I've implemented in the past is to have the DIRMAINT 'clean' exit issue LXFMT instead of FORMAT so that all DASD returned is already Linux formatted.. but it's usefulness depends on whether you use the same size minidisks for all guests. (I tend to use 1-END disks and not chop up volumes). Scott Rohling On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:07 AM, William Carroll wrote: > Scott > > Doesn't this remind you of the issue we had with RHEL5 and it not > recognizing the dasd during a kickstart? > basically if we CMS formatted it worked but a dasdfmt didn't and we got a > "do you wish to format this volume" or similar message. > it was because RH changed the scripts method of checking the dasd for that > issue as I recall. > RH i think was trying to make the script more common between platforms. > > Not saying Suee is doing the same thing but sounds like a similar issue? > > Just sounds like a similar issue. > > William D Carroll > Mainframe Engineering, Build > Office: 614-677-3885 > Email: carrol...@nationwide.com > > > > From: > Scott Rohling > To: > LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Date: > 05/17/2011 08:36 AM > Subject: > Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks? > Sent by: > Linux on 390 Port > > > > Hi Mike - I do recall running into this.. but it's been a few months. Have > you retried the install now that the disks are formatted? IIRC, I was > able > to get through the install on my 2nd attempt. It could be that I ended > up > formatting the disks with CMS and then retrying - my memory is hazy. I > suspected a bug but was in a hurry at the time and just trying to get > through an install.. > > Scott Rohling > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Michael MacIsaac > wrote: > > > Rogerio, > > > > > did you attach dasd to the guest ? > > They are minidisks. There was no error message when logging onto the > > virtual machine. Thanks. > > > > "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
Hello, I saw that error too (during an autoyast installation) on VM 5.4, but yast ignored it and continued and all the installation went well without problems. i also performed a manual installation some time ago, but can't remember if i got that error too.. Not much of a help, but i think its not related to your VM version. Regards, Stefan Michael MacIsaac Sent by: Linux on 390 Port 16.05.2011 22:02 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks? Hello list, I just ran into a weird one. I was installing SLES 11 SP1, "DEF STOR"ed it to 1G, clicked "Configure DASD", selected, activated and formatted the two R/W disks, then kept moving along. I got the error "Error: No hard disks or controllers were found for the installation. Check your hardware." on the "System Probing" window. If I move on to "Partitioning", there are no hard disks shown (but in the "Configure DASD" section, they were just R/W ). Nothing came up on the console. Has anyone seen this? (this is an ESP z/VM 6.2 system - so that could be a factor). Thanks. "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ - Deutsche Börse AG Chairman of the Supervisory Board/ Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Dr. Manfred Gentz Executive Board/Vorstand: Reto Francioni (Chief Executive Officer/Vorsitzender), Andreas Preuss (Deputy Chief Executive Officer/ stellv. Vorsitzender), Frank Gerstenschläger, Michael Kuhn, Gregor Pottmeyer, Jeffrey Tessler. Aktiengesellschaft with registered seat in/mit Sitz in Frankfurt am Main. Commercial register/Handelsregister: Local court/Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main HRB 32232. - Diese E-Mail enthaelt vertrauliche oder rechtlich geschuetzte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der beabsichtigte Empfaenger sind, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und loeschen Sie diese E-Mail. Das unbefugte Kopieren dieser E-Mail oder die unbefugte Weitergabe der enthaltenen Informationen ist nicht gestattet. The information contained in this message is confidential or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete this message. Any unauthorised copying of this message or unauthorised distribution of the information contained herein is prohibited. Legally required information for business correspondence/ Gesetzliche Pflichtangaben fuer Geschaeftskorrespondenz: http://deutsche-boerse.com/letterhead
Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
Scott Doesn't this remind you of the issue we had with RHEL5 and it not recognizing the dasd during a kickstart? basically if we CMS formatted it worked but a dasdfmt didn't and we got a "do you wish to format this volume" or similar message. it was because RH changed the scripts method of checking the dasd for that issue as I recall. RH i think was trying to make the script more common between platforms. Not saying Suee is doing the same thing but sounds like a similar issue? Just sounds like a similar issue. William D Carroll Mainframe Engineering, Build Office: 614-677-3885 Email: carrol...@nationwide.com From: Scott Rohling To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 05/17/2011 08:36 AM Subject: Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks? Sent by: Linux on 390 Port Hi Mike - I do recall running into this.. but it's been a few months. Have you retried the install now that the disks are formatted? IIRC, I was able to get through the install on my 2nd attempt. It could be that I ended up formatting the disks with CMS and then retrying - my memory is hazy. I suspected a bug but was in a hurry at the time and just trying to get through an install.. Scott Rohling On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Michael MacIsaac wrote: > Rogerio, > > > did you attach dasd to the guest ? > They are minidisks. There was no error message when logging onto the > virtual machine. Thanks. > > "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
Hi Mike - I do recall running into this.. but it's been a few months. Have you retried the install now that the disks are formatted? IIRC, I was able to get through the install on my 2nd attempt. It could be that I ended up formatting the disks with CMS and then retrying - my memory is hazy. I suspected a bug but was in a hurry at the time and just trying to get through an install.. Scott Rohling On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Michael MacIsaac wrote: > Rogerio, > > > did you attach dasd to the guest ? > They are minidisks. There was no error message when logging onto the > virtual machine. Thanks. > > "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
Rogerio, > did you attach dasd to the guest ? They are minidisks. There was no error message when logging onto the virtual machine. Thanks. "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
Karl, > Did you activate the DASD when you were installing? Yes - selected, activated and formatted... "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
did you attach dasd to the guest ? On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:37 AM, wrote: > Did you activate the DASD when you were installing? > > > > From: Michael MacIsaac > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Date: 05/16/2011 04:03 PM > Subject: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks? > Sent by:Linux on 390 Port > > > > Hello list, > > I just ran into a weird one. I was installing SLES 11 SP1, "DEF STOR"ed > it to 1G, clicked "Configure DASD", selected, activated and formatted the > two R/W disks, then kept moving along. I got the error "Error: No hard > disks or controllers were found for the installation. Check your > hardware." on the "System Probing" window. If I move on to > "Partitioning", there are no hard disks shown (but in the "Configure DASD" > section, they were just R/W ). Nothing came up on the console. > > Has anyone seen this? (this is an ESP z/VM 6.2 system - so that could be > a factor). Thanks. > > "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
Did you activate the DASD when you were installing? From: Michael MacIsaac To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 05/16/2011 04:03 PM Subject:SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks? Sent by:Linux on 390 Port Hello list, I just ran into a weird one. I was installing SLES 11 SP1, "DEF STOR"ed it to 1G, clicked "Configure DASD", selected, activated and formatted the two R/W disks, then kept moving along. I got the error "Error: No hard disks or controllers were found for the installation. Check your hardware." on the "System Probing" window. If I move on to "Partitioning", there are no hard disks shown (but in the "Configure DASD" section, they were just R/W ). Nothing came up on the console. Has anyone seen this? (this is an ESP z/VM 6.2 system - so that could be a factor). Thanks. "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
SLES 11 SP1 install can't find disks?
Hello list, I just ran into a weird one. I was installing SLES 11 SP1, "DEF STOR"ed it to 1G, clicked "Configure DASD", selected, activated and formatted the two R/W disks, then kept moving along. I got the error "Error: No hard disks or controllers were found for the installation. Check your hardware." on the "System Probing" window. If I move on to "Partitioning", there are no hard disks shown (but in the "Configure DASD" section, they were just R/W ). Nothing came up on the console. Has anyone seen this? (this is an ESP z/VM 6.2 system - so that could be a factor). Thanks. "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/