Re: VM Monitor
all good. On 10/3/2013 2:42 PM, Gregg Levine wrote: Hello! Thank you Barton. Now did I properly describe the situation? The important phrase was indeed "licensing" in your statement. I chose simply "acting as a vendor". I didn't want to go into too much detail. - Gregg C Levine gregg.drw...@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Barton Robinson wrote: Mauro, please Read That Fine Manual/article again, "licensing" does NOT equal acquisition. product news CA Technologies Signs Global Licensing and Distribution Agreement with Velocity Software, a Leading Linux Performance Management Company <http://www.ca.com/us/news/Press-Releases/na/2011/ca-technologies-signs-global-licensing-and-distribution-agreement-with-velocity-software.aspx> On 10/3/2013 2:04 PM, Mauro Souza wrote: "Wait until CA buys them." I think CA already did that: http://www.ca.com/us/products/detail/velocity-zvps-performance-suite.aspx Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. 2013/10/3 Dean, David (I/S) Or just wait until CA buys them. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:55 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM Monitor Note that CA can also sell you licenses for at least some of Velocity's products, so if you have a relationship with CA, that might be an easier route to go than making your procurement guys do anything out of the ordinary. From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Dave Jones [d...@vsoft-software.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:05 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM Monitor If you can't get Velocity's suite of tools (they're excellent), try taking a look at Perfkit and OmgeaMon XE for zLinux. OmegaMon XE for zLinux can also feed performance data into a z/OS - OmegaMon environment, if you're running that as well. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
But I wanted to vote for a beer while out on a fishing boat... - Followed by a happy return to VM monitoring of course! Kurt Acker IBM Smarter Planet, Smarter Data Centers Virtualization and Enterprise System Management Technologies -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
Hello! Thank you Barton. Now did I properly describe the situation? The important phrase was indeed "licensing" in your statement. I chose simply "acting as a vendor". I didn't want to go into too much detail. - Gregg C Levine gregg.drw...@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Barton Robinson wrote: > Mauro, please Read That Fine Manual/article again, "licensing" does NOT > equal acquisition. > > > product news > > CA Technologies Signs Global Licensing and Distribution Agreement with > Velocity Software, a Leading Linux Performance Management Company > <http://www.ca.com/us/news/Press-Releases/na/2011/ca-technologies-signs-global-licensing-and-distribution-agreement-with-velocity-software.aspx> > > > > On 10/3/2013 2:04 PM, Mauro Souza wrote: >> >> "Wait until CA buys them." >> >> I think CA already did that: >> http://www.ca.com/us/products/detail/velocity-zvps-performance-suite.aspx >> >> Mauro >> http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 >> Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. >> >> >> 2013/10/3 Dean, David (I/S) >> >>> Or just wait until CA buys them. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of >>> David Boyes >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:55 AM >>> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU >>> Subject: Re: VM Monitor >>> >>> Note that CA can also sell you licenses for at least some of Velocity's >>> products, so if you have a relationship with CA, that might be an easier >>> route to go than making your procurement guys do anything out of the >>> ordinary. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Dave Jones >>> [d...@vsoft-software.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:05 AM >>> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU >>> Subject: Re: VM Monitor >>> >>> If you can't get Velocity's suite of tools (they're excellent), try >>> taking >>> a look at Perfkit and OmgeaMon XE for zLinux. OmegaMon XE for zLinux can >>> also feed performance data into a z/OS - OmegaMon environment, if you're >>> running that as well. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >>> email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit >>> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >>> -- >>> For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >>> - >>> Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee >>> E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm >>> >>> -- >>> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >>> visit >>> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >>> -- >>> For more information on Linux on System z, visit >>> http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >>> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> -- >> For more information on Linux on System z, visit >> http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >> >> >> > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
Mauro, please Read That Fine Manual/article again, "licensing" does NOT equal acquisition. product news CA Technologies Signs Global Licensing and Distribution Agreement with Velocity Software, a Leading Linux Performance Management Company <http://www.ca.com/us/news/Press-Releases/na/2011/ca-technologies-signs-global-licensing-and-distribution-agreement-with-velocity-software.aspx> On 10/3/2013 2:04 PM, Mauro Souza wrote: "Wait until CA buys them." I think CA already did that: http://www.ca.com/us/products/detail/velocity-zvps-performance-suite.aspx Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. 2013/10/3 Dean, David (I/S) Or just wait until CA buys them. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:55 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM Monitor Note that CA can also sell you licenses for at least some of Velocity's products, so if you have a relationship with CA, that might be an easier route to go than making your procurement guys do anything out of the ordinary. From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Dave Jones [d...@vsoft-software.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:05 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM Monitor If you can't get Velocity's suite of tools (they're excellent), try taking a look at Perfkit and OmgeaMon XE for zLinux. OmegaMon XE for zLinux can also feed performance data into a z/OS - OmegaMon environment, if you're running that as well. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
Hello! No, CA is just acting as a vendor for Barton's best known product. As far as I know Barton and company are still actively selling the suite, that will tell us exactly what our System Z hardware is really doing. (Point of fact, I do not have one living here, but I do something of a sort in emulation.) However we will need Barton to chime in. - Gregg C Levine gregg.drw...@gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Mauro Souza wrote: > "Wait until CA buys them." > > I think CA already did that: > http://www.ca.com/us/products/detail/velocity-zvps-performance-suite.aspx > > Mauro > http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 > Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. > > > 2013/10/3 Dean, David (I/S) > >> Or just wait until CA buys them. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of >> David Boyes >> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:55 AM >> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU >> Subject: Re: VM Monitor >> >> Note that CA can also sell you licenses for at least some of Velocity's >> products, so if you have a relationship with CA, that might be an easier >> route to go than making your procurement guys do anything out of the >> ordinary. >> >> >> >> From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Dave Jones >> [d...@vsoft-software.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:05 AM >> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU >> Subject: Re: VM Monitor >> >> If you can't get Velocity's suite of tools (they're excellent), try taking >> a look at Perfkit and OmgeaMon XE for zLinux. OmegaMon XE for zLinux can >> also feed performance data into a z/OS - OmegaMon environment, if you're >> running that as well. >> >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> -- >> For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >> - >> Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee >> E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm >> >> -- >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or >> visit >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 >> -- >> For more information on Linux on System z, visit >> http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ >> > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
"Wait until CA buys them." I think CA already did that: http://www.ca.com/us/products/detail/velocity-zvps-performance-suite.aspx Mauro http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521 Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God. 2013/10/3 Dean, David (I/S) > Or just wait until CA buys them. > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of > David Boyes > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:55 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: VM Monitor > > Note that CA can also sell you licenses for at least some of Velocity's > products, so if you have a relationship with CA, that might be an easier > route to go than making your procurement guys do anything out of the > ordinary. > > > > From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Dave Jones > [d...@vsoft-software.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:05 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: VM Monitor > > If you can't get Velocity's suite of tools (they're excellent), try taking > a look at Perfkit and OmgeaMon XE for zLinux. OmegaMon XE for zLinux can > also feed performance data into a z/OS - OmegaMon environment, if you're > running that as well. > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > - > Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee > E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
Back to the original post. Did you contact Barton directly to try to work out your problem? On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Barton Robinson < bar...@velocitysoftware.com> wrote: > Guys, you DO know I read this stuff? > Anybody that knows me, had a beer with me, or much about my business > would never imagine me working for someone else. I work hard at being a > technology leader - that means investing in things the bean counters > can't even imagine having value, investing in a large support structure > that can't possibly be justified, and doing performance research that is > key to many of you. Of course, if y'all want higher prices, less > support, and me to take off on a big sail boat, voting can start - > probably the tivoli guys and Kurt should be disqualified from voting. > And anybody else that has tried to buy the company. And, everyone on > my team will jump thru hoops, just say how high. Just not burning hoops. > > On 10/3/2013 9:19 AM, Dean, David (I/S) wrote: > >> Or just wait until CA buys them. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Linux on 390 Port >> [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.**EDU] >> On Behalf Of David Boyes >> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:55 AM >> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU >> Subject: Re: VM Monitor >> >> Note that CA can also sell you licenses for at least some of Velocity's >> products, so if you have a relationship with CA, that might be an easier >> route to go than making your procurement guys do anything out of the >> ordinary. >> >> >> > --**--**-- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/**wlvindex?LINUX-390<http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390> > --**--**-- > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
Guys, you DO know I read this stuff? Anybody that knows me, had a beer with me, or much about my business would never imagine me working for someone else. I work hard at being a technology leader - that means investing in things the bean counters can't even imagine having value, investing in a large support structure that can't possibly be justified, and doing performance research that is key to many of you. Of course, if y'all want higher prices, less support, and me to take off on a big sail boat, voting can start - probably the tivoli guys and Kurt should be disqualified from voting. And anybody else that has tried to buy the company. And, everyone on my team will jump thru hoops, just say how high. Just not burning hoops. On 10/3/2013 9:19 AM, Dean, David (I/S) wrote: Or just wait until CA buys them. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:55 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM Monitor Note that CA can also sell you licenses for at least some of Velocity's products, so if you have a relationship with CA, that might be an easier route to go than making your procurement guys do anything out of the ordinary. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
Or just wait until CA buys them. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:55 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM Monitor Note that CA can also sell you licenses for at least some of Velocity's products, so if you have a relationship with CA, that might be an easier route to go than making your procurement guys do anything out of the ordinary. From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Dave Jones [d...@vsoft-software.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:05 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM Monitor If you can't get Velocity's suite of tools (they're excellent), try taking a look at Perfkit and OmgeaMon XE for zLinux. OmegaMon XE for zLinux can also feed performance data into a z/OS - OmegaMon environment, if you're running that as well. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ - Please see the following link for the BlueCross BlueShield of Tennessee E-mail disclaimer: http://www.bcbst.com/email_disclaimer.shtm -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
Note that CA can also sell you licenses for at least some of Velocity's products, so if you have a relationship with CA, that might be an easier route to go than making your procurement guys do anything out of the ordinary. From: Linux on 390 Port [LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] on behalf of Dave Jones [d...@vsoft-software.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:05 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VM Monitor If you can't get Velocity's suite of tools (they're excellent), try taking a look at Perfkit and OmgeaMon XE for zLinux. OmegaMon XE for zLinux can also feed performance data into a z/OS - OmegaMon environment, if you're running that as well. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
If you can't get Velocity's suite of tools (they're excellent), try taking a look at Perfkit and OmgeaMon XE for zLinux. OmegaMon XE for zLinux can also feed performance data into a z/OS - OmegaMon environment, if you're running that as well. DJ On 10/02/2013 05:37 AM, Walters, Gene P wrote: > We are in search of a good VM/Linux Monitor. Until recently, we had > Velocity and were quite happy with it. Barton's group decided our > shop was too small and not worth the hoops that our purchasing > division wanted them to jump through, so now we need a new one. Any > ideas? > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > > For more information on Linux on System z, visit > http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ > -- Dave Jones V/Soft Software www.vsoft-software.com Houston, TX 281.578.7544 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
On Wednesday, 10/02/2013 at 06:39 EDT, "Walters, Gene P" wrote: > We are in search of a good VM/Linux Monitor. Until recently, we had Velocity > and were quite happy with it. Barton's group decided our shop was too small > and not worth the hoops that our purchasing division wanted them to jump > through, so now we need a new one. Any ideas? The only other z/VM monitors I know about are a) IBM Performance Toolkit feature of z/VM b) IBM OMEGAMON for z/VM and Linux (requires Performance Toolkit) c) CA Explore Performance Management for z/VM Alan Altmark Senior Managing z/VM and Linux Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
What I like about Performance Toolkit for z/VM (Perfkit) besides working on and supporting the product while at the lab in Endicott... is that's the tool the z/VM lab still uses helping to simplify collaboration with the lab when/if required. Understand that it is a hardware/system tool over something with a true software focus. Having Perfkit is a pre-req for Omegamon, a product offered from our software group. Omegamon is handy if you also have z/OS, have requirements to track transactions and want/desire dashboards. Worth noting along the lines of dashboards if you are also looking to simplify z/VM system administration, stay tuned for announcements around CSL WAVE as it pulls info from performance tools into nice dashboards as well. You can of course just get info from Linux directly with tools like TOP. Combined with z/VM commands enough information is obtainable to help keep your system healthy: http://www.vm.ibm.com/perf/tips/ No matter what product you decide works best for your org, go thru at least an internal solution assurance type review to understand the required resources/impact to your system as part of your decision. Kurt Acker IBM Smarter Planet, Smarter Data Centers Virtualization and Enterprise System Management Technologies -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
Gene, Be aware that most monitoring is not quite suited for virtual machines. They don't (or can't) match linux values with the host numbers. You might want to look at Performance Toolkit or Tivoli Omegamon. Obviously most monitoring from general linux can also monitor linux on z. Such as nagios or packages that use the SNMP interface. Though in general I don't like the others. They might use a lot of system resources to monitor a guest and, as mentioned, most are not aware of virtual machines. For reporting purposes you might want to look at the mon_statd from the s390-tools package. This writes (a lot) of data into the CP MONITOR. I use this to gather data from the linux guests. And I have written a crude monitoring based on these numbers. Regards, Berry. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Walters, Gene P Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 12:38 PM To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Subject: VM Monitor We are in search of a good VM/Linux Monitor. Until recently, we had Velocity and were quite happy with it. Barton's group decided our shop was too small and not worth the hoops that our purchasing division wanted them to jump through, so now we need a new one. Any ideas? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: VM Monitor
I have a vested interest as I work for IBM, but OMEGAMON for z/VM and Linux for System z is an option.. http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/omegamon-xe-zvm-linux/index.html Cheers, Dave S. IBM United Kingdom Limited Senior I.T. Specialist - System z Tivoli Technical Professional E-Mail IdsInternet: david_sw...@uk.ibm.com Internal: SWIFTDS@IBMGB Phone +44 (0) 1962-817087 (DDI), Mobile +44 (0) 772-0411-717, Fax +44 (0) 1962-818914 IBM Certified zSeries Technical Specialist BCS Chartered IT Professional (MBCS CITP) ITIL Certified - IT Service Management Foundation From: "Walters, Gene P" To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu, Date: 02/10/2013 11:39 Subject: VM Monitor Sent by:Linux on 390 Port We are in search of a good VM/Linux Monitor. Until recently, we had Velocity and were quite happy with it. Barton's group decided our shop was too small and not worth the hoops that our purchasing division wanted them to jump through, so now we need a new one. Any ideas? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
VM Monitor
We are in search of a good VM/Linux Monitor. Until recently, we had Velocity and were quite happy with it. Barton's group decided our shop was too small and not worth the hoops that our purchasing division wanted them to jump through, so now we need a new one. Any ideas? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: open source performance monitor -uses z/VM *Monitor System Service
Roger Evans wrote: Thanks Przemyslaw, This could be a useful tool for finding a problem. OF course, Barton sells a fantastic product that runs directly on the hipervisor, and nearer the metal so to speak, but unfortunately for those of us in (real world) small shops, it's packaged and priced out of our range. I'll give it a try. The demon dies on my machine, but maybe it's because I'm running a later version of VM (5.4). Have to fire up the debugger and try to find out why. I think this is probably the main reason, because some records have changed since z/VM 5.3 and zpmd takes a priori it's v5.3 ;-) To disable daemonize in file main.c comment line 42-61. Also you may check syslog for error msg. -- Best regards, Przemyslaw Kupisz -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: open source performance monitor -uses z/VM *Monitor System Service
Przemyslaw, > I've written two programs to monitor mainframe system. They are not > completed but might be useful to somebody Thanks for sharing. I'll definitely take a look at them. "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: open source performance monitor -uses z/VM *Monitor System Service
Thanks Przemyslaw, This could be a useful tool for finding a problem. OF course, Barton sells a fantastic product that runs directly on the hipervisor, and nearer the metal so to speak, but unfortunately for those of us in (real world) small shops, it's packaged and priced out of our range. I'll give it a try. The demon dies on my machine, but maybe it's because I'm running a later version of VM (5.4). Have to fire up the debugger and try to find out why. Dobra Robota! Roger PS: Lighten up Bart - it's also a thesis :) On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 22:04 -0700, Barton Robinson wrote: > So, monitoring "mainframe software" is really about "MANAGING", this is > not the "pc world". Does your objectives have anything to do with the > following disciplines: > > 1) Performance analysis including all subsystems (DASD, Storage, PAging, > CPU, Network) > > 2) Capacity Planning (same subsystems), with MICS, MXG, TDS interfaces? > > 3) Accounting , charge back for resources consumed? (100 percent capture > ratio) > > 4) Operations support: Let operations know about all servers having > issues with non response, filesystem full, missing processes, looping > processes, and etc... > > Please contact me offline if interested in real world "performance > monitoring" hrequirements (or a job?) > > Przemyslaw Kupisz wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've written two programs to monitor mainframe system. They are not > > completed but might be useful to somebody (for examle zpmd needs some > > records and zpmc needs more graphs, statistics and some well organised > > data inside frame). > > > > Well, then some words about them: > > "zpmd" -z/VM Performance Monitor Daemon for z/Linux running under z/VM > > (actually only for v5.3). It reads data from /dev/monreader (DCSS used > > by *MONITOR) and writes to MySQL database. > > > > "zpmc" -z/VM Performance Monitor (Client). This is a Java client so it's > > portable:-) Cooperates with MySQL database and presents system usage, > > actual events. > > > > The newest code is available to download or view using SVN repo from: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/zpmd/ > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/zpmc/ > > > > On balance I must finish some records in zpmd because they are still > > missing. It would be nice to have somebody who knows very well HLASM and > > TOD format because some records have values counted in TOD clock units > > like I/O rate or total time for VMDBK. In zpmc there is a lot of work on > > view and position of data to make it handy for system programmer. > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Przemyslaw Kupisz > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Roger Evans, http://www.autodata.no tel: +47 23 17 20 46 GSM: 93 25 92 36 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: open source performance monitor -uses z/VM *Monitor System Service
So, monitoring "mainframe software" is really about "MANAGING", this is not the "pc world". Does your objectives have anything to do with the following disciplines: 1) Performance analysis including all subsystems (DASD, Storage, PAging, CPU, Network) 2) Capacity Planning (same subsystems), with MICS, MXG, TDS interfaces? 3) Accounting , charge back for resources consumed? (100 percent capture ratio) 4) Operations support: Let operations know about all servers having issues with non response, filesystem full, missing processes, looping processes, and etc... Please contact me offline if interested in real world "performance monitoring" hrequirements (or a job?) Przemyslaw Kupisz wrote: Hello, I've written two programs to monitor mainframe system. They are not completed but might be useful to somebody (for examle zpmd needs some records and zpmc needs more graphs, statistics and some well organised data inside frame). Well, then some words about them: "zpmd" -z/VM Performance Monitor Daemon for z/Linux running under z/VM (actually only for v5.3). It reads data from /dev/monreader (DCSS used by *MONITOR) and writes to MySQL database. "zpmc" -z/VM Performance Monitor (Client). This is a Java client so it's portable:-) Cooperates with MySQL database and presents system usage, actual events. The newest code is available to download or view using SVN repo from: http://sourceforge.net/projects/zpmd/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/zpmc/ On balance I must finish some records in zpmd because they are still missing. It would be nice to have somebody who knows very well HLASM and TOD format because some records have values counted in TOD clock units like I/O rate or total time for VMDBK. In zpmc there is a lot of work on view and position of data to make it handy for system programmer. -- Best regards, Przemyslaw Kupisz -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
open source performance monitor -uses z/VM *Monitor System Service
Hello, I've written two programs to monitor mainframe system. They are not completed but might be useful to somebody (for examle zpmd needs some records and zpmc needs more graphs, statistics and some well organised data inside frame). Well, then some words about them: "zpmd" -z/VM Performance Monitor Daemon for z/Linux running under z/VM (actually only for v5.3). It reads data from /dev/monreader (DCSS used by *MONITOR) and writes to MySQL database. "zpmc" -z/VM Performance Monitor (Client). This is a Java client so it's portable:-) Cooperates with MySQL database and presents system usage, actual events. The newest code is available to download or view using SVN repo from: http://sourceforge.net/projects/zpmd/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/zpmc/ On balance I must finish some records in zpmd because they are still missing. It would be nice to have somebody who knows very well HLASM and TOD format because some records have values counted in TOD clock units like I/O rate or total time for VMDBK. In zpmc there is a lot of work on view and position of data to make it handy for system programmer. -- Best regards, Przemyslaw Kupisz -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: z/VM Monitor Stream patch - any one using this?
On 6/3/05, James Melin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > except when I run those commands some of the structures in > /procsys/appldata are not there to manipulate: > > /proc/sys/appldata/mem: No such file or directory > /proc/sys/appldata/os: No such file or directory > /proc/sys/appldata/net_sum: No such file or directory > Did you issue modprobes to load the kernel modules? $ modprobe appldata_os $ modprobe appldata_mem $ modprobe appldata_net_sum Ronald van der Laan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
z/VM Monitor Stream patch - any one using this?
I have applied the maintenance from the vendor to get to the version of the kernel that they say contains the z/VM Monitor Stream Patch: - From question to SuSE--- In that case, you should already have installed the appropriate kernel. The SLES8 SP4 kernel for S/390 31-bit mode is k_deflt-2.4.21-278, the currently latest kernel provided by YaST Online Update is k_deflt-2.4.21-281, which of course also includes the patches of the kernel for SP4. Thus, if "uname -r" returns "2.4.21-281-default" or at least "2.4.21-278-default", a kernel with the code drop is already running on your system. - uname reveals: vadnais:~ # uname -r 2.4.21-281-default vadnais:~ # According to the performance toolkit manual at http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/hcsl7b00.pdf on page 143: The LINUX Kernel needs the "Linux-z/VM monitor stream" patch applied. LINUX must be running on the same system as PERFKIT. When you start LINUX you need to enter the following commands to start data collection: echo 1 > /proc/sys/appldata/timer echo 1 > /proc/sys/appldata/mem echo 1 > /proc/sys/appldata/os echo 1 > /proc/sys/appldata/net_sum and the following to set the interval time: echo 1 > /proc/sys/appldata/interval except when I run those commands some of the structures in /procsys/appldata are not there to manipulate: /proc/sys/appldata/mem: No such file or directory /proc/sys/appldata/os: No such file or directory /proc/sys/appldata/net_sum: No such file or directory I would expect that if the z/VM monitor stream patch was indeed on that the structures would be there. Does anyone have any experience with the RMF/PM stuff for z/VM 5.1 Performance Tool Kit -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
