Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
Hi *, Am 2008-08-08 09:37:39, schrieb Emanuel Rumpf: 2008/8/7 Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: However, for precise geometrical shapes, Blender is the wrong tool. It can be done to some degree, but it is just painful compared to a decent CAD tool. Here's a comunity, that tries to extend Blender for these requirements. (Some Scripts are available) http://blender-archi.tuxfamily.org/Main_Page BRL-CAD http://brlcad.org/ Article: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/node/1633 Some upcoming OS CAD projects: avoCADo http://avocado-cad.sourceforge.net/ FreeCAD http://juergen-riegel.net/FreeCAD/Docu/index.php?title=Main_Page But unfortunately no even all togehter reach 1% of the performance of my beloved VariCAD and OF COURSE, no one reach its price... :-D However, I can design a whole City or such and import my VariCAD stuff into Blender... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:17 -0400, nescivi wrote: Do you know any decent open source CAD tools? I haven't yet found one I am completely content with Nope. There's http://brlcad.org/, which looks like much-is-possible, but-everything-is-damn-hard. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
Den Friday 08 August 2008 03.52.47 skrev Thomas Vecchione: 3D Cad tools unfortuanatly I haven't found any I particularly like among the open source projects. Personally I am using QCad for 2D and Sketchup for 3D. I use Blender for organic modleing and rendering though. I'm one of those Linux-only persons. Is there a Sketchup for Linux or is it just Mac and Windows as the Sketchup-page says? /bengan ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Friday 08 August 2008, Emanuel Rumpf wrote: 2008/8/7 Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED]: However, for precise geometrical shapes, Blender is the wrong tool. It can be done to some degree, but it is just painful compared to a decent CAD tool. Here's a comunity, that tries to extend Blender for these requirements. (Some Scripts are available) http://blender-archi.tuxfamily.org/Main_Page BRL-CAD http://brlcad.org/ Article: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/node/1633 The article is dated, there have been 2 releases since. Unforch for me, the last release is for IA64 linux only, not x86-32. I already have 7.10, so downloaded the srcs to see if it will build on x86-32. Some upcoming OS CAD projects: avoCADo http://avocado-cad.sourceforge.net/ Interesting, downloaded it. FreeCAD http://juergen-riegel.net/FreeCAD/Docu/index.php?title=Main_Page Big pre-alpha notices on download page. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Maintence window broken ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 5:42 PM, nescivi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 29 July 2008 09:05:46 Fons Adriaensen wrote: Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ? Absolute requirements are: - Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc. - Linewidths and styles, colors, filling. - Text - PDF or PS export. - PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required). - Accuracy. I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and more being blocked by its main flaw which is that it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big. Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic requirements (and have other problems). Did you look at PythonCAD? I did some technical drawings with that... And... when you need to have things in Latex eventually... pstricks helped me out for my dissertation making mathematical drawings. You have to type all your lines and so on, but I found that much faster than trying to draw something in a graphical environment. There are also some tools to make an eps from a ps, so that it is not full page size anymore... ps2eps or something like that... Actually, I am looking for some 3D software for drawing 3D structures. Eventual output format needed is STL... sincerely, Marije ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev http://www.ualberta.ca/~cwant/blender/stl.py is a plugin to export STL from blender, which is a great environment for modeling 3d, once you get over the learning curve. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro is a good wikibook tutorial, that happens to cover modeling in the first hundred pages or so of the beginner volume. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:58:33 Justin Smith wrote: Actually, I am looking for some 3D software for drawing 3D structures. Eventual output format needed is STL... sincerely, Marije http://www.ualberta.ca/~cwant/blender/stl.py is a plugin to export STL from blender, which is a great environment for modeling 3d, once you get over the learning curve. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro is a good wikibook tutorial, that happens to cover modeling in the first hundred pages or so of the beginner volume. thanks for the link. At first sight it seems more geared to 3D modelling for animation graphics, rather than for making realworld objects. I need to model some things in order to print them on a rapid prototyping machine... Is Blender a suitable candidate for that? sincerely, Marije ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 14:03 -0400, nescivi wrote: At first sight it seems more geared to 3D modelling for animation graphics, rather than for making realworld objects. I need to model some things in order to print them on a rapid prototyping machine... Is Blender a suitable candidate for that? AFAIK rapid prototyping machines work with triangle meshes, so using a polygon modeler is no problem. It's even the way to go for organic shapes like action figures. There's a RP startup that works with Blender a lot. However, for precise geometrical shapes, Blender is the wrong tool. It can be done to some degree, but it is just painful compared to a decent CAD tool. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
Hiho, On Thursday 07 August 2008 14:18:39 Thorsten Wilms wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 14:03 -0400, nescivi wrote: At first sight it seems more geared to 3D modelling for animation graphics, rather than for making realworld objects. I need to model some things in order to print them on a rapid prototyping machine... Is Blender a suitable candidate for that? AFAIK rapid prototyping machines work with triangle meshes, so using a polygon modeler is no problem. It's even the way to go for organic shapes like action figures. There's a RP startup that works with Blender a lot. Hmm.. ok. that sounds interesting. I don't want to make action figures so much, but part of my interest is organic shapes... However, for precise geometrical shapes, Blender is the wrong tool. It can be done to some degree, but it is just painful compared to a decent CAD tool. Do you know any decent open source CAD tools? I haven't yet found one I am completely content with sincerely, Marije ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
3D Cad tools unfortuanatly I haven't found any I particularly like among the open source projects. Personally I am using QCad for 2D and Sketchup for 3D. I use Blender for organic modleing and rendering though. Seablade On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM, nescivi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiho, On Thursday 07 August 2008 14:18:39 Thorsten Wilms wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 14:03 -0400, nescivi wrote: At first sight it seems more geared to 3D modelling for animation graphics, rather than for making realworld objects. I need to model some things in order to print them on a rapid prototyping machine... Is Blender a suitable candidate for that? AFAIK rapid prototyping machines work with triangle meshes, so using a polygon modeler is no problem. It's even the way to go for organic shapes like action figures. There's a RP startup that works with Blender a lot. Hmm.. ok. that sounds interesting. I don't want to make action figures so much, but part of my interest is organic shapes... However, for precise geometrical shapes, Blender is the wrong tool. It can be done to some degree, but it is just painful compared to a decent CAD tool. Do you know any decent open source CAD tools? I haven't yet found one I am completely content with sincerely, Marije ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:15:52 +0200, Pau Arumí [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On dt, 2008-07-29 at 16:16 +0200, MarcOChapeau wrote: I'd say PDF/PS export is not there yet. PNG has always been there but not JPEG. Yes it's there (I'm using version 0.46 - Apr 2008) I actually use it as the preferred command-line SVG-PDF converter for LaTeX docs: $ inkscape source-svg --without-gui --export-pdf=target-pdf I'm curious to know what other requirements does inkscape fail, because I find it extremely useful -- it is true that you have to get use to some tricks, like for example painting arrows. Oh ! good surprise. I need to update I guess :-) -- Marc-Olivier Barre -- --- MarcO'Chapeau - www.marcochapeau.org - ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:43:00PM -0600, Thomas Vecchione wrote: I'll be honest in that I personally find QCad to be invaluable for 2D drafting. I am not sure exactly how you are planning on using the vector drawing program is part of the problem. In the past I have also used Inkscape for web design, and OpenOffice Draw for some things as well. I, like others, am curious how QCad and Inkscape fail these basic requirements for you? Thanks to all who responded. A short report of my adventures in CAD land: * Inkscape. After two hours of trying I still can't draw a simple rectangle. It gets filled (in blue) and all attempts to change that have failed. * Qcad. Some very nice and unique features. Several problems: - It doesn't seem to use anything but 'plotter fonts' (i.e. just lines), - It doesn't seem to have arrows on lines - It doesn't seem to have a concept of a 'path', I've not been able to create e.g, a series of connected lines, move a point and keep the lines connected, - Printing to PS works, but the layout in the print preview doesn't correspond to the output. No EPS, so converting to PDF produces a full page and not a figure that can be inserted into a pdflatex document. * Xfig crashed within five minutes. * Xcircuit segfaulted within three minutes. The others I have still to try. Ciao, -- FA Laboratorio di Acustica ed Elettroacustica Parma, Italia O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte ! ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
Fons Adriaensen wrote: * Inkscape. After two hours of trying I still can't draw a simple rectangle. It gets filled (in blue) and all attempts to change that have failed. Draw the rectangle (it will be blue), then go to the Object menu and choose Fill and Stroke. In the Fill pane, wind the Alpha down to zero. In the Stroke Paint pane chose the second box Flat Color. You should now have a black rectangle, without any fill colour on a white background. Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Percussive Maintenance: The fine art of whacking the c**p out of an electronic device to get it to work again. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:00:28PM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Fons Adriaensen wrote: * Inkscape. After two hours of trying I still can't draw a simple rectangle. It gets filled (in blue) and all attempts to change that have failed. Draw the rectangle (it will be blue), then go to the Object menu and choose Fill and Stroke. In the Fill pane, wind the Alpha down to zero. In the Stroke Paint pane chose the second box Flat Color. You should now have a black rectangle, without any fill colour on a white background. That works. Any way to make that the default ? Effective linewidths are quite different from what is set in that dialog. Other problems: prints PDF but only full page, i.e. again not usable to insert into latex. Inkscape lookd more and more as some GUI interface to Cairo. ATM I can write the Cairo code a lot faster than using the GUI... Ciao, -- FA Laboratorio di Acustica ed Elettroacustica Parma, Italia O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte ! ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Fons Adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Xfig crashed within five minutes. Wow ! I used to work with Xfig for longtime (now I use Inkscape), and I am surprised that it offered you a crash (particularly so rapidly) ! Anyway, my advise would be to take the time to know Inkscape, it really is a great software. A good point is that you can include latex equations in it with textext, and even modify them. Wonderful, isn't it ? :) Adrien ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
Ok that explains things a bit at least, thank you Fons. You are correct in that there are no connections(I think are what you are looking for rather than paths which I think of from Gimp/Photoshop/Inkscape as a bit different in QCad. I actually used to think that was a problem, but after doing several system one liners in QCad I have come to the conclusion I depended on them way to much. But at any rate, what I used for the type of drawings I believe you were describing, believe it or not, is Open Office Draw. The last time I did one not in QCad, Inkscape at that point did not have connections, which I believe it does now as of last summer, so that may very well work for what you need now. But what type of drawing specifically makes alarge difference in the tool I chose, which is why I asked, as if I was doing a very simplified one liner for someone that doesn't know their way around a sound system, with images, etc. I would be looking not at QCad but one of the other programs I mentioned. At this point I would say look at Inkscape or Open Office Draw seriously, and as you come across problems post a question and itll probably get answered(Like it was previously). Seablade ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
Fons Adriaensen: Inkscape lookd more and more as some GUI interface to Cairo. ATM I can write the Cairo code a lot faster than using the GUI... I was just about to suggest writing Cairo code. :-) pgf/tikz is probably faster than programming cairo though. But what would be really nice would be a programming interface for pgf/tikz. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On dc, 2008-07-30 at 15:25 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:00:28PM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Fons Adriaensen wrote: * Inkscape. After two hours of trying I still can't draw a simple rectangle. It gets filled (in blue) and all attempts to change that have failed. Draw the rectangle (it will be blue), then go to the Object menu and choose Fill and Stroke. In the Fill pane, wind the Alpha down to zero. In the Stroke Paint pane chose the second box Flat Color. You should now have a black rectangle, without any fill colour on a white background. That works. Any way to make that the default ? Effective linewidths are quite different from what is set in that dialog. Other problems: prints PDF but only full page, i.e. again not usable to insert into latex. It works flawlessly here. My latex compile script does this $ inkscape source-svg --without-gui --export-eps=target-eps $ epstopdf source-eps -o=target-pdf And it generates a pdf that perfectly fits the drawn area. I thought that the direct svg-pdf command (inkscape source-svg --without-gui --export-pdf=target-pdf) also behaved this way but probably not. And perhaps this is why I'm using the two steps method. P ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:00:28PM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Fons Adriaensen wrote: * Inkscape. After two hours of trying I still can't draw a simple rectangle. It gets filled (in blue) and all attempts to change that have failed. Draw the rectangle (it will be blue), then go to the Object menu and choose Fill and Stroke. In the Fill pane, wind the Alpha down to zero. In the Stroke Paint pane chose the second box Flat Color. You should now have a black rectangle, without any fill colour on a white background. It would be better to choose no fill (the X on the fill tab) rather than just making it 0 alpha. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
[LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ? Absolute requirements are: - Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc. - Linewidths and styles, colors, filling. - Text - PDF or PS export. - PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required). - Accuracy. I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and more being blocked by its main flaw which is that it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big. Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic requirements (and have other problems). Ciao, -- FA Laboratorio di Acustica ed Elettroacustica Parma, Italia O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte ! ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:05 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ? Absolute requirements are: - Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc. - Linewidths and styles, colors, filling. - Text - PDF or PS export. - PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required). - Accuracy. I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and more being blocked by its main flaw which is that it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big. Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic requirements (and have other problems). what basic requirements does inkscape fail? you could check into xara. ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
Fons Adriaensen wrote: Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ? Absolute requirements are: - Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc. - Linewidths and styles, colors, filling. - Text - PDF or PS export. - PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required). - Accuracy. I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and more being blocked by its main flaw which is that it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big. Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic requirements (and have other problems). XCircuit ? Alas, you'd have to convert images to PPM, but I think it meets most of your other requirements. http://opencircuitdesign.com/xcircuit/ Best, dp ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:57:03 -0400, Paul Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:05 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ? Absolute requirements are: - Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc. - Linewidths and styles, colors, filling. - Text - PDF or PS export. - PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required). - Accuracy. I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and more being blocked by its main flaw which is that it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big. Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic requirements (and have other problems). what basic requirements does inkscape fail? I'd say PDF/PS export is not there yet. PNG has always been there but not JPEG. Although, IMHO, Inkscape is one the those FLOSS jewels I love. This depends a lot on what you want to do with it of course... -- Marc-Olivier Barre -- --- MarcO'Chapeau - www.marcochapeau.org - ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Fons Adriaensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ? Absolute requirements are: - Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc. - Linewidths and styles, colors, filling. - Text - PDF or PS export. - PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required). - Accuracy. I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and more being blocked by its main flaw which is that it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big. Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic requirements (and have other problems). Ciao, -- FA Laboratorio di Acustica ed Elettroacustica Parma, Italia O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte ! ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev What about Xfig ? Its GUI is a bit old-fashioned, but efficient. Adrien ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
I don't know what happened to this one: http://www.xaraxtreme.org/ Because this one doesn't exist: http://www.xaraxtreme.org/download/ ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On Tue, July 29, 2008 15:05, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ? OpenOffice.org Draw? -- Denis Sbragion InfoTecna Tel: +39 0362 805396, Fax: +39 0362 805404 URL: http://www.infotecna.it ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
On dt, 2008-07-29 at 16:16 +0200, MarcOChapeau wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:57:03 -0400, Paul Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:05 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ? Absolute requirements are: - Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc. - Linewidths and styles, colors, filling. - Text - PDF or PS export. - PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required). - Accuracy. I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and more being blocked by its main flaw which is that it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big. Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic requirements (and have other problems). what basic requirements does inkscape fail? I'd say PDF/PS export is not there yet. PNG has always been there but not JPEG. Yes it's there (I'm using version 0.46 - Apr 2008) I actually use it as the preferred command-line SVG-PDF converter for LaTeX docs: $ inkscape source-svg --without-gui --export-pdf=target-pdf I'm curious to know what other requirements does inkscape fail, because I find it extremely useful -- it is true that you have to get use to some tricks, like for example painting arrows. Pau ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
Fons Adriaensen: Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ? Absolute requirements are: - Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc. - Linewidths and styles, colors, filling. - Text - PDF or PS export. - PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required). - Accuracy. I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and more being blocked by its main flaw which is that it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big. Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic requirements (and have other problems). Maybe pgf / tikz would be useful? http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/pgf.html ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
Hi Fons, On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:05 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ? I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Gnome Dia yet. It's a fine program and I'm using it for all my vector diagrams since years. In my opinion there are only a few things really missing from it: * Rotation like rotating text or rotating objects. There ain't even a 90° rotation. * Gradient fills * More developer care. Development activity seems to be quite low recently. But fortunately you can use python for scripting. Besides that it's very usable and works very well for me. Just noticed that postscript export is not as obvious as it might be, though. You can't export a postscript file but need print to it. Yours sincerely, Dennis Schulmeister -- Dennis Schulmeister - Schifferstr. 1 - 76189 Karlsruhe - Germany Tel: +49 721/5978883 - Mob: +49 152/01994400 - eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now moved to the corridor: Hermes! (http://ncc-1701a.homelinux.net) Besides that: http://www.denchris.de - http://www.motagator.net/bands/65 GnuPG KeyIDs: B8382C97, 01AD62DE ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
Re: [LAD] [OT] vector drawing software
I'll be honest in that I personally find QCad to be invaluable for 2D drafting. I am not sure exactly how you are planning on using the vector drawing program is part of the problem. In the past I have also used Inkscape for web design, and OpenOffice Draw for some things as well. I, like others, am curious how QCad and Inkscape fail these basic requirements for you? Seablade On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Dennis Schulmeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Fons, On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:05 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ? I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Gnome Dia yet. It's a fine program and I'm using it for all my vector diagrams since years. In my opinion there are only a few things really missing from it: * Rotation like rotating text or rotating objects. There ain't even a 90° rotation. * Gradient fills * More developer care. Development activity seems to be quite low recently. But fortunately you can use python for scripting. Besides that it's very usable and works very well for me. Just noticed that postscript export is not as obvious as it might be, though. You can't export a postscript file but need print to it. Yours sincerely, Dennis Schulmeister -- Dennis Schulmeister - Schifferstr. 1 - 76189 Karlsruhe - Germany Tel: +49 721/5978883 - Mob: +49 152/01994400 - eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now moved to the corridor: Hermes! (http://ncc-1701a.homelinux.net) Besides that: http://www.denchris.de - http://www.motagator.net/bands/65 GnuPG KeyIDs: B8382C97, 01AD62DE ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev ___ Linux-audio-dev mailing list Linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
