Re: [linux-audio-dev] Low-latency audio over IP

2004-11-12 Thread martin rumori
On Fri, November 12, 2004 8:30 pm, Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano said:
> On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 01:25, Asbjørn Sæbø wrote:
>> I am working on what is called "distributed multimedia interaction", one
>> purpose of which is to investigate possibilities for ensemble playing

> See: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/groups/soundwire/
>
> I see this has not been updated in a while, but Chris Chafe is actively
> working on the project, see a recent event (AES demo) here:

... which reminds me of my promise to chris to build an autostuff thing around 
the
streambd program, which was used at least for the banff-stanford piano duo.  
AFAIK
it doesn't have sample clock correction but may be will have it in the future.

shame on me, it's on my todo list and gaining priority from day to day.

bests,

martin




Re: [linux-audio-dev] Low-latency audio over IP

2004-11-12 Thread Jan Depner
Check out MAS

http://www.mediaapplicationserver.net/

Jan

On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 03:25, Asbjørn Sæbø wrote:
> I am working on what is called "distributed multimedia interaction", one 
> purpose of which is to investigate possibilities for ensemble playing 
> by remote parties, distributing the audio over IP networks.
> 
> A crucial point is to achieve audio transmission with very low latency.  
> If anyone could provide me with information on, or pointers to, 
> open-source software for doing this, I would be grateful.  (I have 
> started to roll my own, but I can hardly defend duplicating work 
> unnecessarily.)
> 
> Other comments are of course also appreciated.
> 
> 
> With kind regards
> Asbjørn Sæbø




Re: [linux-audio-dev] Low-latency audio over IP

2004-11-12 Thread Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano
On Fri, 2004-11-12 at 01:25, Asbjørn Sæbø wrote:
> I am working on what is called "distributed multimedia interaction", one 
> purpose of which is to investigate possibilities for ensemble playing 
> by remote parties, distributing the audio over IP networks.
> 
> A crucial point is to achieve audio transmission with very low latency.  
> If anyone could provide me with information on, or pointers to, 
> open-source software for doing this, I would be grateful.  (I have 
> started to roll my own, but I can hardly defend duplicating work 
> unnecessarily.)
> 
> Other comments are of course also appreciated.

See: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/groups/soundwire/

I see this has not been updated in a while, but Chris Chafe is actively
working on the project, see a recent event (AES demo) here:

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~cc/soundwire/aes04/demo.html
Or more stuff in Chris's page at:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~cc

-- Fernando




Re: [linux-audio-dev] Low-latency audio over IP

2004-11-12 Thread Asbjørn Sæbø
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 11:07:14AM +0100, Marije Baalman wrote:

> AS> A crucial point is to achieve audio transmission with very low latency.
> AS> If anyone could provide me with information on, or pointers to, 
> AS> open-source software for doing this, I would be grateful.  [...]

> I know that McGill University has done some work on this kind of
> stuff, at their Music Technology department. Maybe you can find
> something on their website.

Thanks, I will look into that.


> I would be very interested in any open source development in this
> direction!

May I ask what your interests are?  Are you working at related things?

Asbjørn


Re: [linux-audio-dev] Low-latency audio over IP

2004-11-12 Thread Asbjørn Sæbø
On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 10:55:32PM +1300, Niklas wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:25, Asbjørn Sæbø wrote:

> [...]
> > A crucial point is to achieve audio transmission with very low latency.
> > If anyone could provide me with information on, or pointers to,
> > open-source software for doing this, I would be grateful.  [...]

> Soundmesh might do a bit what you want. 
> http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/index2nf.html or 
> http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/%7Emara/soundmesh/

Thanks, I will look into that.

> Please keep me (and/or the list) updated on your progress, I'm very 
> interested on a cooperation.

Noted.  I'll just have to do some progress first ;-)

The current version is _very_ basic.  I have however acheived a latency 
of 12ms end to end (analog to analog), of which 8.7ms are due to to the 
buffer of the sound card.  So one of the next things is to try on a 
better sound card.

(By the way, a back-of-the-envelope calculation gives me that the
absolute minimum latency physically possible is about 67ms (one way)
between two antpodes of the earth.  And New Zealand is about antipodal
to Norway.  The ping time to NZ was 330ms (two-way) some day I checked
it.)

Asbjørn


Re: [linux-audio-dev] Low-latency audio over IP

2004-11-12 Thread Marije Baalman
Hi,

Friday, November 12, 2004, 10:25:29 AM, you wrote:

AS> I am working on what is called "distributed multimedia interaction", one
AS> purpose of which is to investigate possibilities for ensemble playing
AS> by remote parties, distributing the audio over IP networks.

AS> A crucial point is to achieve audio transmission with very low latency.
AS> If anyone could provide me with information on, or pointers to, 
AS> open-source software for doing this, I would be grateful.  (I have
AS> started to roll my own, but I can hardly defend duplicating work 
AS> unnecessarily.)

I know that McGill University has done some work on this kind of
stuff, at their Music Technology department. Maybe you can find
something on their website.

I would be very interested in any open source development in this
direction!

sincerely,
Marije Baalman



Re: [linux-audio-dev] Low-latency audio over IP

2004-11-12 Thread Niklas
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 22:25, AsbjÃrn SÃbà wrote:
> I am working on what is called "distributed multimedia interaction",
> one purpose of which is to investigate possibilities for ensemble
> playing by remote parties, distributing the audio over IP networks.
>
Nice! I'm working on creating music on the Net :-)
> A crucial point is to achieve audio transmission with very low latency.
> If anyone could provide me with information on, or pointers to,
> open-source software for doing this, I would be grateful.  (I have
> started to roll my own, but I can hardly defend duplicating work
> unnecessarily.)
Soundmesh might do a bit what you want.
http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/index2nf.html or 
http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/%7Emara/soundmesh/
>
> Other comments are of course also appreciated.
Please keep me (and/or the list) updated on your progress, I'm very 
interested on a cooperation.


Cheers,

Niklas
--
Computer Music PhD-student
University of Waikato
Hamilton
New Zealand