Re: KISS over psuedo TTY

2000-07-24 Thread Guillermo Alcala del Olmo

hello Charles
I thing that you can do it whit both kiss and Slip
you must define a pair  ptyxxx and ttyxxx and i thing that you must
start pty first  look at the man
 
Guillermo

Charles Brain escribió:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am trying to set up a kiss link over a psuedo TTY without much luck.
 I can do it with slip not not it seems with KISS. I am trying to set up
 a link to my own application.
 
 the Kernel is 2.2.12-20 and I am using apps-0.0.4 and tools 0.0.5
 
 Anyone have any ideas?
 
 - Charles G4GUO



RE: Soundmodem problem

2000-07-24 Thread Barrett, Peter G

cat /proc/interrupts?


 -Original Message-
 From: Rich Hall [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, 24 July 2000 8:43 am
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Soundmodem problem
 
 At 07:23 PM 7/23/2000 -0500, you wrote:
 As I'm sure you'll get dozens of messages saying, networking devices are
 not "devices" in the sense that they have /dev entries.  They're entirely
 in the kernel and visible only via things like ifconfig.
 
 David
 
 
 Hello David,
 
 Thanks for the fast response. The docs have stated that devices are
 created 
 in /dev/ called /dev/sm[0..3] while in another  spot it states network 
 devices.. In any case I am unable to access them in any manner and when I 
 run any of the tools that are supposed to manage them there do not exist. 
 And I am not a novice at networking after having been a system admin now 
 for about 15 years this should be a piece of cake.. but I am stumped. 
 Everything comes up until the handling of the sm0 net device and ifconfig 
 and smdiags say it is down and smmixer says it does not exist. I have
 built 
 everything into the kernel at one point and as modules and combinations of
 
 both. All to no avail. I am using all of the latest ax-utils (1.42a) and 
 net-tools 1.54 with a 2.2.14 kernel. Soundcard is a Soundblaster PCI 128 
 (es1370) and it works if I load the sound support (yes, I unload the sound
 
 card support for the soundmodem as per the AX 25 soundmodem instructions).
 
 The card is at SB 0x220 irq 7 dma 1 confirmed.
 
 Thanks,
 -Rich
 
   Rich Hall - http://www.netlynx.com/rich
   emailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   amateur radio: KF6ARX
 



RE: Soundmodem problem

2000-07-24 Thread Barrett, Peter G



 Hello David,
 
 Thanks for the fast response. The docs have stated that devices are
 created 
 in /dev/ called /dev/sm[0..3]
not in my experience
  while in another  spot it states network 
 devices.. In any case I am unable to access them in any manner and when I 
 run any of the tools that are supposed to manage them there do not exist. 
 And I am not a novice at networking after having been a system admin now 
 for about 15 years this should be a piece of cake.. but I am stumped. 
 Everything comes up until the handling of the sm0 net device and ifconfig 
 and smdiags say it is down and smmixer says it does not exist. I have
 built 
 everything into the kernel at one point and as modules and combinations of
 
 both. All to no avail. I am using all of the latest ax-utils (1.42a)
 
Here is your problem I think. The ax25-utils will not work with
2.2.x kernels.
You need to get

libax25
ax25-tools
ax25-apps

then run 
lsmod to make sure all sound modules are not running
remove them with modprobe -r
then modprobe soundmodem
then sethdlc -p -i sm0 with your mode, irq, io, dma, ptt settings

hope this helps
  and 
 net-tools 1.54 with a 2.2.14 kernel. Soundcard is a Soundblaster PCI 128 
 (es1370) and it works if I load the sound support (yes, I unload the sound
 
 card support for the soundmodem as per the AX 25 soundmodem instructions).
 
 The card is at SB 0x220 irq 7 dma 1 confirmed.
 
 Thanks,
 -Rich
 
   Rich Hall - http://www.netlynx.com/rich
   emailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   amateur radio: KF6ARX
 



Re: AX25 Mini-Linux?

2000-07-24 Thread ve7hex

On Sun, Jul 23, 2000 at 08:56:47PM +0200, Salvador Caballe 'EA3BKZ' wrote:
 Hello,
 
 
 Does anybody know a single floppy nini-linux distribution, 
 with ax25 support ? 
 
 Salvador
 

I've managed to build cramdisks with AX.25 kernels and limited utilities
for the older stuff (2.0.37) but not with any of the newer stuff that uses
glibc (can the new kernels and ax25 be used with libc5 ?)

... Niall (VE7HEX) 



Query on Rig-control API

2000-07-24 Thread Andrew Sands

Hi,
There was minor discussion on the possibility of a generic rig-control API
during the discourse about the creation of a linux/unix based logging
program suite?
As I have the opportunity to have access to some computer controllable rigs
on behalf of their owner whom is currently upgrading his shack, I thought
this a suitable time to put some free(ish) time into producing a reasonable
result.
Towards this end I have seen the inseption of the HAM-API on QSL.NET
however, it appears to have died; I have not yet emailed the originator but
as he states "time and family committments" on the last web page update.
It appears that I do not have the actual posts previously mentioned as I'm
not really much into logging, where did the discussion end up.
Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome.

thanks and regards, Andrew ZL3TCK




Re: Query on Rig-control API

2000-07-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt

On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 08:16:53PM +1200, Andrew Sands wrote:
 There was minor discussion on the possibility of a generic rig-control API
 during the discourse about the creation of a linux/unix based logging
 program suite?
 As I have the opportunity to have access to some computer controllable rigs
 on behalf of their owner whom is currently upgrading his shack, I thought
 this a suitable time to put some free(ish) time into producing a reasonable
 result.

I'm still interested. I haven't done anything on it though.
I can contribute code for the FT-847, and perhaps ICOM as well
(although I'll probably sell my ICOM soon).

I had a few thoughts on the topic.. Radios have lots of different
capabilities so the API should probably have a way to find out what
capabilities are available. 

For example, my FT-847 has satellite mode, and you can read the S-meter 
over the CAT interface. It has two VFOs but you can't switch VFOs 
through software. It has 1Hz tuning but only 10Hz resolution over CAT.
It has all bands 160m through 70cm, and has CW and CW-R modes.

My IC-726 has no satellite mode and no S-meter command, but you can
switch between the two VFOs over the CI-V interface. It has HF and 6m,
but switching between HF and 6m is a bit of an artform. It has 10Hz
tuning steps and can be controlled down to 10Hz on the interface.
It only has CW mode (LSB) with no reverse.

Some ideas. The library could read a config file which listed
which radios were connected to which serial ports. Application
software could get a list of connected radios that way, and find
out what capabilities they had.

A few basic commands should be supported on all radios -- get/set
frequency and mode, probably nothing more is completely standard.
(Early firmware on the FT-847 didn't have any read back at all!
Most of those got upgraded though.)

Memory handling would be quite complicated and IMHO low priority.
If made generic enough I suppose the API could work with memory
programming for VHF/UHF FM rigs as well.


Just a few random thoughts,

Hamish
-- 
Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Query on Rig-control API

2000-07-24 Thread Mike Murphree


On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 08:16:53PM +1200, Andrew Sands wrote:
  There was minor discussion on the possibility of a generic rig-control 
API
  during the discourse about the creation of a linux/unix based logging
  program suite?
  As I have the opportunity to have access to some computer controllable 
rigs
  on behalf of their owner whom is currently upgrading his shack, I 
thought
  this a suitable time to put some free(ish) time into producing a 
reasonable
  result.

I'm still interested. I haven't done anything on it though.
I can contribute code for the FT-847, and perhaps ICOM as well
(although I'll probably sell my ICOM soon).

Quite interested in this myself as well...  are there any new
programs for satellite tracking programs past what was around
a couple of years ago?

73
Mike N4CNW


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Re: NEWQPSK tests

2000-07-24 Thread Tomi Manninen OH2BNS

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 Well, I was going to arrange a time and frequency where we could
 try to make contact. If nothing else I might leave a beacon running
 one day this week, if there's anyone hear who would try to copy it.
 
 I would be running Tomi's NEWQPSK modem for Linux, transmitting
 AX.25 packets using the 'beacon' program. Would anyone try to decode
 this if I set it up?

Unfortunately I'm now back from my vacation and HF antennas are a problem
but I might try to set up something.

By the way if anyone here in EU is trying to connect to Joni's NEWQPSK
station at 3590.0kHz LSB, it's now running 2500bps (8000sps),
interleave=8 and fec=3. After some tests we decided that the 3000bps
(9600sps) mode is too wide for most ham rigs and the high and low
carriers are unnecessarily attenuated and performance thus degraded.
2500bps is much better at least in that sense.

-- 
Tomi Manninen   Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OH2BNS  AX.25: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KP20ME04Amprnet:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: NEWQPSK tests

2000-07-24 Thread Ken Koster

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 06:25:43PM +0200, Kai Schulte wrote:
   Is anyone interested in doing some NEWQPSK testing with me on HF
   this weekend?
  
  How do the tests work, and what band(s) do you use?  I'd love to give
  psk31 a try but currently I don't have _any_ working short wave antennas,
  so this would be good motivation to build/fix one :)
 
 Hi Kai,
 
 Well, I was going to arrange a time and frequency where we could
 try to make contact. If nothing else I might leave a beacon running
 one day this week, if there's anyone hear who would try to copy it.
 
 I would be running Tomi's NEWQPSK modem for Linux, transmitting
 AX.25 packets using the 'beacon' program. Would anyone try to decode
 this if I set it up?

I'd be interested.  

I've been trying to get a couple of the local guys interested enough to do
local testing, but everyone is a bit too busy right now, or they don't have
their PC's tied to their HF rigs yet.

I'd be willing to setup a periodic beacon while I'm home in the evening
(approx. 0300-1400 GMT).  Since I'm in northwest Washington state picking a
frequency that has half a chance of making it between us is going to be the
difficult part.

Ken,  N7IPB  - 
 



Re: NEWQPSK tests

2000-07-24 Thread Ken Koster

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why don't you guys just go to 20m, around 14.070, and tune around? There's dozens of 
PSK31 signals there just about 24 hours per day, with the band being open... I've 
made many good contacts with guys running 3W output power and a dipole, both sides 
running DigiPan...  Why reinvent the wheel when there's worldwide PSK31 stuff coming 
in on 20M most of the day/night?
 
 73, Gary, W7NTF

It's not PSK-31, it's NEWQPSK which is a totally different mode.

Ken



Re: NEWQPSK tests

2000-07-24 Thread Tomi Manninen

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why don't you guys just go to 20m, around 14.070, and tune around?
 There's dozens of PSK31 signals there just about 24 hours per day,
 with the band being open... I've made many good contacts with guys
 running 3W output power and a dipole, both sides running DigiPan...  
 Why reinvent the wheel when there's worldwide PSK31 stuff coming in on
 20M most of the day/night?

NEWQPSK has _nothing_ to do with PSK31. Instead it has much more to do
with MT63. (both were "invented" by the same person, Pawel SP9VRC)

NEWQPSK (aka Q15X25) is an AX.25 modem using 15 parallel (OFDM) tones
modulated with DQPSK. Symbol rate with 8000sps is 83.333baud which
translates to 2500 bits per second raw bit rate. There are three different
levels of FEC that reduce the payload down to 833.3 bps.

The modem takes about 2000Hz of bandwidth so it is something you
definitely do NOT want to run on 14.070 !!!

My code is a port of the original Motorola 56k assembler code to Linux
and C.

-- 
Tomi Manninen   Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OH2BNS  AX.25: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KP20ME04Amprnet:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Soundmodem problem

2000-07-24 Thread David Nesting

On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 11:40:44AM -0700, Rich Hall wrote:
: 
: I tried this route too. No workie..  Also the docs on several of the web 
: sites state that the ax-utils do not work with 2.2.x kernels.. I am totally 
: confused on this. The site at http://meow.febo.com/linux-ax25/index.html 
: shows the ax25-utils as a 2.0.x based support package and the ax25-tools as 
: a 2.2.x package.

I really don't know what else for you to try.. This is my relevant
AX25 configuration information for the kernel (everything's a module,
basically):

#
# Packet Radio protocols
#
CONFIG_AX25=m
CONFIG_NETROM=m
CONFIG_ROSE=m

#
# AX.25 network device drivers
#
CONFIG_MKISS=m
CONFIG_6PACK=m
CONFIG_SOUNDMODEM=m
CONFIG_SOUNDMODEM_SBC=y
CONFIG_SOUNDMODEM_AFSK1200=y
CONFIG_SOUNDMODEM_AFSK2400_7=y
CONFIG_SOUNDMODEM_AFSK2400_8=y
CONFIG_SOUNDMODEM_PSK4800=y
CONFIG_SOUNDMODEM_FSK9600=y

My /etc/conf.modules has these settings:

alias net-pf-3 ax25
alias sm0 soundmodem

# These just keep it from trying to load the sound card drivers
alias sb off
alias sound off
alias sound-slot-0 sb
alias sound-service-0-0 sb
alias sound-service-0-3 sb
alias char-major-14 sb

options soundmodem mode="afsk:1200" iobase=0x220 irq=5 dma=1
post-install soundmodem /usr/sbin/sethdlc -i sm0 -p mode "sbc:afsk1200" io 
0x220 irq 5 dma 1

Note that the modules post-install line above does my sethdlc for me.
Thus, I can just 'ifconfig sm0' and it loads the drivers and configures
the soundmodem automatically.  At that point it's up to me to use ifconfig
to configure the interface like I want it.  (I also have a working setup
for using RedHat's automatic networking stuff, but I don't always want
the interface up at boot-time.)

[root@eddie /root]# rpm -qf /usr/sbin/sethdlc
ax25-utils-2.1.42a-3

[root@eddie /root]# rpm -qi ax25-utils 
Name: ax25-utils   Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.1.42a   Vendor: (none)
Release : 3 Build Date: Fri Jan  1 14:48:48 
1999
Install date: Wed Sep  1 09:28:56 1999  Build Host: localhost
Group   : Utilities/System  Source RPM: 
ax25-utils-2.1.42a-3.src.rpm
Size: 1385793  License: GPL/BSD
Packager: Alessandro Sabbatini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Summary : AX.25 Utilities
Description :
These are the support utilities required to make use of the
internal AX.25, NET/ROM and Rose support in the linux kernel.
The ax25-utils are mostly configuration utilities, but some
important user programs are also included.

This version of the utilities will only work with kernel
revisions 2.1.42 and higher, or 2.0.30+module13 or higher.

This package includes examples from the original package (in
/usr/doc/ax25-utils-2.1.42a/etc) but DOES NOT include any rc.d file
to start AX-25 (Refer to the AX25-HOWTO package).

Compiled under RedHat 5.2.

Clearly this RPM uses ax25 stuff meant for 2.2 kernels (or at least
the 2.1 development series, the precurser to 2.2).  Perhaps you should
e-mail Mr. Sabbatini above for information about where he got the source
for this.  Maybe there's additional information and help there.

: BTW how is the 2.2.16 kernel? I had a ton of trouble with crashing network 
: stacks on about 20 machines in our network when we went to that.

2.2.10-2.2.13 gave me major network problems (I have a complex
masquerading setup), but 2.2.14 fixed those.  2.2.16 has been running
flawlessly under sporatically moderate to heavy loading (though not at
the moment):

  3:11pm  up 32 days, 16:09,  8 users,  load average: 0.28, 0.32, 0.20

Good luck,

David



Re Tiny2 STA led

2000-07-24 Thread Brian Wilde

Hi All

Thanks to Richard  Paul for your notes on the Tiny2 jumping back to command
mode.

I have checked this out but it appears that the TNC is remaining in Kiss mode. 
So I rebooted to DOS and used Paket6 to put the TNC
back to the command mode with Alt k 
The TNC runs fine in kissmode with DOS/BPQ and
with Windows98 running AGW Packet engine.

I have since noted that the TNC does not receive any packets when it has the
STA light problem.  Restarting the TNC with the on/off switch has no effect
other than cancelling the STA light but still no packets are received.

I have found the only way to get it to work is to start with the TNC in command
mode and then put it in kissmode from Linux. I can only think that on shutdown
some rubbish is being left on the TNC but I would have thought that a restart
would clear that.

I have also used the call programme with the same results.

I have managed to set up my Baycom board on bcsf0 and that works fine under
Linpac. :-)

I did an "ifconfig" and ax0 is up and running as normal

Interesting problem I suppose it might be a duff Tiny2!

CU 
73's Brian



Re: NEWQPSK tests

2000-07-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt

On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 09:36:30AM -0700, Ken Koster wrote:
 I've been trying to get a couple of the local guys interested enough to do
 local testing, but everyone is a bit too busy right now, or they don't have
 their PC's tied to their HF rigs yet.

Similar story here. Also, not many Linux- using hams either.

 I'd be willing to setup a periodic beacon while I'm home in the evening
 (approx. 0300-1400 GMT).  Since I'm in northwest Washington state picking a
 frequency that has half a chance of making it between us is going to be the
 difficult part.

There should be propagation at some time during that period on 20 metres,
around 0900 I would guess. I was intending to run the beacon for a few
days while I am at work (2200-0800Z), but could do an evening also
(until about 1200Z). The equipment is too noisy to leave running overnight.
(The FT-847's cooling fan runs continuously!)


Hamish
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