a Ynet special on Open Source
It's not yet-another-link, but rather a step forward in Ynet coverage of OSS. This really looks nice and warms the heart... http://www.ynetco.il/home/0,7340,L-1724,00.html Boaz R.
HTML to jpg/gif in Linux
Hi All I want to convert html pages to jpg/gif images. The plane is more like: 1. print a Web page to file 2. convert ps to jpg or gif How can I print from console ( with color ) to file a web page ? Does any body have a better way then i wrote above ? Cheer = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache mod_ssl+mod_perl warns about "Subroutine myfunc redefined"
Hi, I'm using Apache mod_ssl+mod_perl on Linux Mandrake 8.2 with the following configuration: PerlRequire /etc/httpd/conf/startup.pl Alias /seminars/ /home/shlomi/Docs/Univ/Seminars/from_cvs/perl/site/cgi/ AllowOverride All Options FollowSymLinks MultiViews ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi # SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::PerlRun Options ExecCGI PerlSendHeader On Now, if I reload an SSL script like that I get the following two warnings every time the page is reloaded: Subroutine check_url redefined at /home/shlomi/Docs/Univ/Seminars/from_cvs/perl/ site/cgi/admin/index.cgi line 17. Subroutine draw_page redefined at /home/shlomi/Docs/Univ/Seminars/from_cvs/perl/ site/cgi/admin/index.cgi line 56. How do I get rid of them? Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups..." "Wait a second - is n a natural number?" = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML to jpg/gif in Linux
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > > The plane is more like: > > 1. print a Web page to file > 2. convert ps to jpg or gif why not instead just make a 'window capture' with a program such as gimp? > How can I print from console ( with color ) to file a web page ? when you say 'console', you mean textual console, and 'lynx' or something similar as the browser? or you mean from the console of an X workstation, using a browser such as netscape, mozilla etc? -- guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache mod_ssl+mod_perl warns about "Subroutine myfunc redefined"
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Now, if I reload an SSL script like that I get the following two warnings > every time the page is reloaded: > > Subroutine check_url redefined at /home/shlomi/Docs/Univ/Seminars/from_cvs/perl/ >site/cgi/admin/index.cgi line 17. > Subroutine draw_page redefined at /home/shlomi/Docs/Univ/Seminars/from_cvs/perl/ >site/cgi/admin/index.cgi line 56. > > How do I get rid of them? errr.. by fixing your code? you're not supplying the relevant info (which is the source, after all) - how can we guess? try to change the names of these functions - they are way too generic - use your own rule - add a common prefix to all function names. if this is off-target, then its your fault for not supplying the source code ;) -- guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cracking lessons for teenagers
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002, Alex Chudnovsky wrote about "Re: Cracking lessons for teenagers": > But do you argue that 18 hours a day at a computer is a royal exaggeration > even for an adult? Think about the eyes of the 13 year old kid - 18 hours at Sure, 18 hours a day is ridiculous. It would barely leave the kid any time to eat or sleep, not to mention do other things that kids do. And where does school fit into this schedule? When I was a kid, I seem to remember school taking up at least 6 hours of each day (very little, but still doesn't leave 18 hours). Anyway, even 12 hours a day by the computer (something that I do as an adult regularly, adding up work and my home computer :( ) is probably a lot for a kid. Even "geeks" can find other things to do, such as read books, or god forbid watch TV :) > And generally they don't have one. And "computeroholics" who spend plenty of > time at a computer, usually do that for two or three things - gaming, > browsing, maybe cracking. Maybe I don't know the "kids of today", but when I was a kid, I did play games, "browsing" did not exist yet, but most of all I enjoyed the programming. I never took my programming to the area of "cracking". I strongly disagree that kids cannot find fun things to program in areas not involving cracking. And playing games 18 hours a day doesn't really have anything with computers - you don't become a computer expert from such experience (unless you count someone who's always blabbering on about his super-duper-video-card as a computer expert). -- Nadav Har'El| Wednesday, Jul 24 2002, 15 Av 5762 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Welcome to the Church of the Holy http://nadav.harel.org.il |Cabbage. Lettuce pray... = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML to jpg/gif in Linux
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > Hi All > > I want to convert html pages to jpg/gif images. > > The plane is more like: > > 1. print a Web page to file > 2. convert ps to jpg or gif > > How can I print from console ( with color ) to file a web page ? If you want a text representation of the page, the lynx -dump should do what you want. If you want graphics representation, then as far as I know there are no such tools, but links-2 has graphics mode with a modular output drivers architecture, so I guess that adding a graphics -dump mode should be easy. -- Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost
On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Eliran wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, Michael Sternberg wrote: > > > > > Just for curiosity: > > > > Let's suppose that NetHack was game developed by Micro$oft > > and Diabolo - by people from some OpenSource project. > > > > Will NetHack win then the above comparison ? > > No. It isn't just about the company/people behind... > Regular users (and especially kids) will prefer graphical > games like doom/fifa than ASCII-based games like nethack. > > Show me a buissnes man that will prefer to play nethack over > solitair on his free time (having to read the manual). having to read the manual for pysol? pysol, fo example, is a great game, that comes bundled with linux [at least with my debian system]. There are other "small" games. The kind that used to be popular before the "big productions" took over, It maybe not profitable to make them commercially, but they *do* exist. And they are a heck of a way to waste my time ;-( -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache mod_ssl+mod_perl warns about "Subroutine myfunc redefined"
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, guy keren wrote:
>
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>
> > Now, if I reload an SSL script like that I get the following two warnings
> > every time the page is reloaded:
> >
> > Subroutine check_url redefined at /home/shlomi/Docs/Univ/Seminars/from_cvs/perl/
>site/cgi/admin/index.cgi line 17.
> > Subroutine draw_page redefined at /home/shlomi/Docs/Univ/Seminars/from_cvs/perl/
>site/cgi/admin/index.cgi line 56.
> >
> > How do I get rid of them?
>
> errr.. by fixing your code? you're not supplying the relevant info (which
> is the source, after all) - how can we guess? try to change the names of
> these functions - they are way too generic - use your own rule - add a
> common prefix to all function names.
>
Changing their names won't help - Perl has namespaces and it should not
matter to it how I call it.
> if this is off-target, then its your fault for not supplying the source
> code ;)
>
I attached the code to this message. You can find the rest of it in the
CVS:
http://developer.berlios.de/cvs/?group_id=382
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
> --
> guy
>
> "For world domination - press 1,
> or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy
>
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"Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups..."
"Wait a second - is n a natural number?"
-- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar --
-- File: index.cgi
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
use CGI;
use Technion::Seminars::Config;
use Technion::Seminars::Layout;
use Technion::Seminars::SlashUrl;
use Technion::Seminars::UserMan;
use Gamla::TextStream::Out::File;
my $q = CGI->new();
sub check_url
{
my $url = shift;
my $verdict = ($url =~ /^admin(\/index.cgi)?$/) ? 1 : 0;
return ($verdict, "admin/");
}
# Make sure our URL ends with a slash.
&normalize_url($q, \&check_url, "https");
my (%cookie);
my ($user, $password);
my $admin_level = "readonly";
my $user_man = Technion::Seminars::UserMan->new();
if (%cookie = $q->cookie('seminars_auth'))
{
$user = $cookie{'user'};
$password = $cookie{'password'};
$admin_level = $user_man->get_admin_level($user, $password);
}
print $q->header();
my $title = "Administrator Login";
my $layout =
Technion::Seminars::Layout->new(
'path' => "admin",
'title' => $title,
'admin_level' => $admin_level,
);
my $o = Gamla::TextStream::Out::File->new(\*STDOUT);
sub draw_page
{
my $o = shift;
$o->print("$title\n\n");
if ($admin_level eq "readonly")
{
$o->print("\n");
$o->print("Username:\n");
$o->print("\n");
$o->print("Password:\n");
$o->print("\n");
$o->print("\n");
$o->print("\n");
}
}
$layout->render($o, \&draw_page);
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Re: Apache mod_ssl+mod_perl warns about "Subroutine myfunc redefined"
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > errr.. by fixingyour code? you're not supplying the relevant info (which > > is the source, after all) - how can we guess? try to change the names of > > these functions - they are way too generic - use your own rule - add a > > common prefix to all function names. > > > > Changing their names won't help - Perl has namespaces and it should not > matter to it how I call it. that's a rather optimistic, or arrogant attitude. did you _try_ changing their names, or you just flat-out refuse to try? -- guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > having to read the manual for pysol? > > pysol, fo example, is a great game, that comes bundled with linux [at > least with my debian system]. > > There areother "small" games. The kind that used to be popular before the > "big productions" took over, It maybe not profitable to make them > commercially, but they *do* exist. > > And they are a heck of a way to waste my time ;-( i don't understand this emoticon. why do you see 'having fun' as a 'waste of time'? as long as you have fun, you are using your time wisely. you don't have to always do something 'useful'. grownups they loose touch with their inner child ;) -- guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache mod_ssl+mod_perl warns about "Subroutine myfunc redefined"
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, guy keren wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > > errr.. by fixingyour code? you're not supplying the relevant info (which > > > is the source, after all) - how can we guess? try to change the names of > > > these functions - they are way too generic - use your own rule - add a > > > common prefix to all function names. > > > > > > > Changing their names won't help - Perl has namespaces and it should not > > matter to it how I call it. > > that's a rather optimistic, or arrogant attitude. did you _try_ changing > their names, or you just flat-out refuse to try? > I changed its name and received the following warning: Subroutine shlomif_fish_own_function_check_url redefined at /home/shlomi/Docs/Univ/Seminars/from_cvs/perl/site/cgi/admin/index.cgi line 17. See? Regards, Shlomi Fish > -- > guy > > "For world domination - press 1, > or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups..." "Wait a second - is n a natural number?" = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache mod_ssl+mod_perl warns about "Subroutine myfunc redefined"
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote: > I changed its name and received the following warning: > > Subroutine shlomif_fish_own_function_check_url redefined at > /home/shlomi/Docs/Univ/Seminars/from_cvs/perl/site/cgi/admin/index.cgi > line 17. ah. that leads us to beleive that a file is being included and/or executed twice instead of once. i'd then go to check the setup, to see if that might be the case. have you used mod-perl before? it does have a few quirks relative to regular CGI scripts. does your configuration tell the system to have 'index.cgi' handled by mod-perl? as far as i remember (from reading one of reuven's articles several years ago), with mod perl, your script is normally run in an endless loop, rather then starting and stopping every time (or is that just one way to use mod-perl?). i would suggest you try to run apache with a single process, and then strace that process (or otherwise, run apache under 'strace -f -o filename httpd) and check all file-opening operations, to see if your file is being opened more then once, and under what circumstances. -- guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML to jpg/gif in Linux
> > On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > > > > > The plane is more like: > > > > 1. print a Web page to file > > 2. convert ps to jpg or gif > > why not instead just make a 'window capture' with a program such as gimp? > > > How can I print from console ( with color ) to file a web page ? > Cant print from X as the action suppose to be something automatic ( maybe cron ) through shell ( for web site ) > when you say 'console', you mean textual console, and 'lynx' or something > similar as the browser? or you mean from the console of an X workstation, > using a browser such as netscape, mozilla etc? > > -- > guy > > "For world domination - press 1, > or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML to jpg/gif in Linux
For some reason I fail to use netscape -remote, but if it wasn't deprecated you could: netscape& netscape -remote "openURL(http://your.url)" netscape -remote "SaveAs(site.ps, PostScript)" gs -sDEVICE=jpeg -dBATCH -sOutputFile=site.jpg site.ps I know people are doing similar things on top of a framebuffer X server, so everything can be done safely from a script. Disclaimer: never tried it myself. Dan. P.S. My guess is that such thing would be incredibly simple to do with Microsoft Internet Explorer, with its elaborate COM interface, but I believe this is the wrong list to mention this. On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 12:39:34PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > Hi All > > I want to convert html pages to jpg/gif images. > > The plane is more like: > > 1. print a Web page to file > 2. convert ps to jpg or gif > > How can I print from console ( with color ) to file a web page ? > > Does any body have a better way then i wrote above ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML to jpg/gif in Linux
Html2ps (http://www.tdb.uu.se/~jan/html2ps-1.0b3) will convert html2ps, together with graphics, and gs (ghostscript) will convert ps to ppm (using -sDEVICE=ppmraw; see man ppm(5) about the "portable pixmap file format"), ppmtogif or ppmtojpeg will convert ppm to gif or jpeg, resp. (in RedHat 7.3, the latter programs are in the netpbm-progs-9.24-3 package). Using this approach you can control much better the quality of your images, and you can automate it by writing shell scripts to do it. On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:04:08 +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote about "Re: HTML to jpg/gif in Linux": > > > > On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > > > > > > > > The plane is more like: > > > > > > 1. print a Web page to file > > > 2. convert ps to jpg or gif > > > > why not instead just make a 'window capture' with a program such as gimp? > > > > > How can I print from console ( with color ) to file a web page ? > > > Cant print from X as the action suppose to be something automatic ( maybe > cron ) through shell ( for web site ) > > > when you say 'console', you mean textual console, and 'lynx' or something > > similar as the browser? or you mean from the console of an X workstation, > > using a browser such as netscape, mozilla etc? > > > > -- > > guy > > > > "For world domination - press 1, > > or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy > > > > > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. Zvi Har'El mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Mathematics tel:+972-54-227607 Technion - Israel Institute of Technology fax:+972-4-8324654 http://www.math.technion.ac.il/~rl/ Haifa 32000, ISRAEL "If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all." -- Thumper (1942) Wednesday, 15 Av 5762, 24 July 2002, 2:11PM = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML to jpg/gif in Linux
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002 at 02:04:08PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: [...] > > why not instead just make a 'window capture' with a program such as gimp? > > > > > How can I print from console ( with color ) to file a web page ? > > > Cant print from X as the action suppose to be something automatic ( maybe > cron ) through shell ( for web site ) You could do the following: Start a new X-server, possibly xvfb. Call mozilla, sleep 30, use imagemagick's import program to obtain a screenshot of the website, use imagemagick's convert program to do some processing on the newly acquired snapshot. It's crude, but it should work. Regards, Yotam Rubin > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any news on OO Bidi?
Does anybody have a clue as to whether and when the IBM patches for OO Bidi will be upgraded/fixed? The export to Word format is the most crucial bug, as far as I'm concerned: I can't exchange documents with other people in the office without it. Or maybe news on the other OO Bidi team? Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: X screen saver and mouse
Hi everyone, Sorry for being off-topic. I want the X screen saver to not respond to mouse events (in other words, to make the monitor stay off when I accidentally hit the table :-) ) I couldn't find any documented way to do that. I looked a bit at the source, and I think the main point to look at is in the function ProcessPointerEvent in xc/programs/Xserver/dix/events.c, maybe adding some condition before calling NoticeTime. Am I far off? Is there a way to do that without changing source? I don't mind to do it not in the server, e.g. it might be possible that xlock (or xscreensaver or such) will force the monitor off and wait only to keyboard events before forcing on, without using the server's stuff for screen saver. Thanks, Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What Happened to www.advogato.org?
I cannot seem to access http://www.advogato.org/ for about 24 hours now. Does anybody know whatever happened to it? Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups..." "Wait a second - is n a natural number?" = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cracking lessons for teenagers
- Original Message - From: "Alex Chudnovsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 5:09 AM Subject: Re: Cracking lessons for teenagers > But do you argue that 18 hours a day at a computer is a royal exaggeration > even for an adult? Think about the eyes of the 13 year old kid - 18 hours at > the computer is very serious eye strain even for an adult. Not to talk about > his back. Advancd bleary eyes case for them... Was it 18 hours a day ? -- http://www.rootshell.be/~eg";>Eliran G. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost
> having to read the manual for pysol? Reading the manual of nethack... > And they are a heck of a way to waste my time ;-( Well, we compared nethack ... Of course there are other games like Xbill, Xchess etc... -- http://www.rootshell.be/~eg";>Eliran G. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ideal format to put movies up on the web
Hi, I have made a movie of a lecture I delivered last week, and would like to put it up on the web. What is the best format for downloadable media? For streaming media? What software do I need to create the movie? To stream it? The movie is presently on a digital video camera that has a firewire port. My prefered limitations is that it all be linux software, and if possible GPLed. However, most important is that the format must be readable to all those Windows users, preferably without downloading additional plugins, although I will consider options requiring downloading plugins. I expect potential users to have a basic Realplayer, Windows media player, Quicktime and Flash plugins. Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ideal format to put movies up on the web
You can use ffmpeg (ffmpeg.sf.net - use only the CVS version!) which also encodes to wmv1 format (thats Windows Media format version 1) - all users can read it - Windows, Mac, Linux (with xine you can read it without the windows binary codecs - so you can watch it on Sun, Silicon graphics etc..) Hetz On Wednesday 24 July 2002 18:19, Arie Folger wrote: > Hi, > > I have made a movie of a lecture I delivered last week, and would like to > put it up on the web. What is the best format for downloadable media? For > streaming media? What software do I need to create the movie? To stream it? > > The movie is presently on a digital video camera that has a firewire port. > > My prefered limitations is that it all be linux software, and if possible > GPLed. However, most important is that the format must be readable to all > those Windows users, preferably without downloading additional plugins, > although I will consider options requiring downloading plugins. I expect > potential users to have a basic Realplayer, Windows media player, Quicktime > and Flash plugins. > > Arie Folger = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE 3.0.2 RPM packages
As I just saw Chen Levy's message at whatsup.org I found that KDE3.0.2 rpms packages are here, available from metalab: ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/Redhat-7.3/ -- http://www.rootshell.be/~eg";>Eliran G. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0.2 RPM packages
On Wednesday 24 July 2002 12:46, Eliran wrote: > As I just saw Chen Levy's message at whatsup.org I found that KDE3.0.2 rpms > packages are here, available from metalab: > > ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/Redhat-7.3/ Thanks, Eliran. clueless question: If you don't know who compiled the packages, and they are in the contrib directory (which, AIUI, has looser upload policies), how do you know the packages are trustworthy? Quite different from widely distributed packages such as RedHat iso images, for which you can find signatures on many independent hosts, and on RedHat's own servers. Arie Folger, who downloaded the packages anyway -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0.2 RPM packages
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Arie Folger wrote: > On Wednesday 24 July 2002 12:46, Eliran wrote: > > As I just saw Chen Levy's message at whatsup.org I found that KDE3.0.2 rpms > > packages are here, available from metalab: > > > > ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/Redhat-7.3/ > > Thanks, Eliran. > > clueless question: If you don't know who compiled the packages, and they are > in the contrib directory (which, AIUI, has looser upload policies), how do > you know the packages are trustworthy? Quite different from widely > distributed packages such as RedHat iso images, for which you can find > signatures on many independent hosts, and on RedHat's own servers. It means that those packages don't have the reputation [read: QA] of redhat. So I figure that we'll have to wait for some brave people to try those packages on their machines. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0.2 RPM packages
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Arie Folger wrote: > > clueless question: If you don't know who compiled the packages, and they > > are in the contrib directory (which, AIUI, has looser upload policies), > > how do you know the packages are trustworthy? Quite different from widely > > distributed packages such as RedHat iso images, for which you can find > > signatures on many independent hosts, and on RedHat's own servers. On Wednesday 24 July 2002 13:22, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > It means that those packages don't have the reputation [read: QA] of > redhat. So I figure that we'll have to wait for some brave people to try > those packages on their machines. Well, I am thinking of fulfilling that role (need to backup first). However, before bothering with this, tell me... RedHat just came out with their beta. The time between the last beta (Rosswell) and RH7.3 was a little less than a month. I believe that limbo has been out since end of June of first few days of July. Does that mean that 8.0 will be out in a matter of days? I don't feel like bothering to install those packages just to see that a week later RH8 is out. If I would have to wait for September, OTOH... Anybody out there with good grapevine connections to RedHat? Is 8.0 for very soon or only in September? Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0.2 RPM packages
more like it they might have a backdoor worm or a virus (or all 3) inside. Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Arie Folger wrote: > > > On Wednesday 24 July 2002 12:46, Eliran wrote: > > > As I just saw Chen Levy's message at whatsup.org I found that KDE3.0.2 rpms > > > packages are here, available from metalab: > > > > > > ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/Redhat-7.3/ > > > > Thanks, Eliran. > > > > clueless question: If you don't know who compiled the packages, and they are > > in the contrib directory (which, AIUI, has looser upload policies), how do > > you know the packages are trustworthy? Quite different from widely > > distributed packages such as RedHat iso images, for which you can find > > signatures on many independent hosts, and on RedHat's own servers. > > It means that those packages don't have the reputation [read: QA] of > redhat. So I figure that we'll have to wait for some brave people to try > those packages on their machines. > > -- > Tzafrir Cohen > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
compiling KDE packages
Anybody has experience compiling kde packages? koffice? I want to compile koffice 1.2 beta, but wonder about rpm spec files. Do the official kde packages come with rpm spec files, if so, where are they in the source tree, if not, how do I easily generate them? (hint: I don't feel like becoming an rpm expert just because I want to compile koffice once). Arie Folger -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0.2 RPM packages
There is another beta planned for near future so I think it would take a bit before 8.0 (I think this beta would be for 7.4). mdk 9 would probebly be out as well in a while, finally something that integrate both gnome 2.0 and kde 3.0.3 togther with gcc 3.1. Shay you can be happy now you'll have someone compiling mozilla with gcc 3.1 and making all the dirty patchs for you;) I wonder if they would get the same result as you did making it load *3 times as fast.. Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Arie Folger wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Arie Folger wrote: > > > clueless question: If you don't know who compiled the packages, and they > > > are in the contrib directory (which, AIUI, has looser upload policies), > > > how do you know the packages are trustworthy? Quite different from widely > > > distributed packages such as RedHat iso images, for which you can find > > > signatures on many independent hosts, and on RedHat's own servers. > > On Wednesday 24 July 2002 13:22, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > It means that those packages don't have the reputation [read: QA] of > > redhat. So I figure that we'll have to wait for some brave people to try > > those packages on their machines. > > Well, I am thinking of fulfilling that role (need to backup first). However, > before botheringwith this, tell me... RedHat just came out with their beta. > The time between the last beta (Rosswell) and RH7.3 was a little less than a > month. I believe that limbo has been out since end of June of first few days > of July. Does that mean that 8.0 will be out in a matter of days? I don't > feel like bothering to install those packages just to see that a week later > RH8 is out. If I would have to wait for September, OTOH... > > Anybody out there with good grapevine connections to RedHat? Is 8.0 for very > soon or only in September? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost
On Wed, Jul 24, 2002, Eliran wrote about "Re: Desktop Linux -- Linux lost": > Well, we compared nethack ... Of course there are other games like Xbill, > Xchess etc... Yeah, Xbill is one game you're not likely to find on Windows machines! :) To quote the XBill story line: "Yet again, the fate of the world rests in your hands! An evil computer hacker, known only by his handle 'Bill', has created the ultimate computer virus. A virus so powerfull that it has the power to transmute an ordinary computer into a toaster oven. (oooh!) 'Bill' has cloned himself into a billion-jillion micro-Bills. Their sole purpose is to deliver the nefarious virus, which has been cleverly disguised as a popular operating system. As System Administrator/Exterminator, your job is to keep Bill from succeeding at his task." -- Nadav Har'El| Wednesday, Jul 24 2002, 16 Av 5762 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Politics, n: from Greek, "poly"=many, http://nadav.harel.org.il |"ticks"=blood sucking parasites. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0.2 RPM packages
On Wednesday 24 July 2002 20:22, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Arie Folger wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 July 2002 12:46, Eliran wrote: > > > As I just saw Chen Levy's message at whatsup.org I found that KDE3.0.2 > > > rpms packages are here, available from metalab: > > > > > > ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/Redhat-7. > > >3/ > > > > Thanks, Eliran. > > > > clueless question: If you don't know who compiled the packages, and they > > are in the contrib directory (which, AIUI, has looser upload policies), > > how do you know the packages are trustworthy? Quite different from widely > > distributed packages such as RedHat iso images, for which you can find > > signatures on many independent hosts, and on RedHat's own servers. > > It means that those packages don't have the reputation [read: QA] of > redhat. So I figure that we'll have to wait for some brave people to try > those packages on their machines. it's seems that I'm your tester.. ( I'm not that brave but it happen to be that I just installed RH 7.3 this week so I don't have much to loss yet :-) any way.. your reading this message written by KMail 1.4.2 ( using KDE 3.0.2-2 ) from the RPMs in that URL.. I took delivery and put the RPMs on whatsup ftp server after removing some RPMs that are not part of KDE 3.0.2 I hope this will serve you well :-) -- -- Yehuda Drori http://whatsup.org.il your Linux spot on the web in HEBREW = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.0.2 RPM packages
> Thanks, Eliran. No problem. > clueless question: If you don't know who compiled the packages, and they are > in the contrib directory (which, AIUI, has looser upload policies), how do > you know the packages are trustworthy? Quite different from widely > distributed packages such as RedHat iso images, for which you can find > signatures on many independent hosts, and on RedHat's own servers. True. But if they are hosted on metalab it is probably just alright... (correct me) BTW if you will read chen's message then: áùòä èåáä ðéúï ìîöåà çáéìåú RPM òáåø KDE-3.0.2 ì- RedHat 7.3. äëúåáú ìäåøãä: ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/Redhat-7.3/ îãåáø áçáéìåú ìà øéùîéåú åìà äëì áäï òåáãã. áôøè ðú÷ìúé ááòéåú á- noaton å- stars. ìäìï øùéîú ä- RPM-éí ùëãàé ìäåøéã åìäú÷éï áòæøú: rpm -Uvh *.rpm ark-3.0.2-2.i586.rpm arts-1.0.2-2.i586.rpm arts-devel-1.0.2-2.i586.rpm cervisia-3.0.2-2.i586.rpm fontconfig-0.0.1.020626.1517-1.i586.rpm fontconfig-devel-0.0.1.020626.1517-1.i586.rpm kaboodle-3.0.2-2.i586.rpm kamera-3.0.2-2.i586.rpm kcalc-3.0.2-2.i586.rpm kcharselect-3.0.2-2.i586.rpm . They are not the official, and some packages are problematic, in a second thought unless you really want it you'd better wait for the official release. -- http://www.rootshell.be/~eg";>Eliran G. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Next RH release (was KDE 3.0.2 RPM packages)
On Wednesday 24 July 2002 13:43, Ely Levy wrote: > There is another beta planned for near future so I think it would take a > bit before 8.0 (I think this beta would be for 7.4). OK. So is 7.4 coming out really soon, or no earlier than September? BTW, I do think that the next release or RH will be 8.0, because the beta is based on gcc 3.1 which is a major architectural change, and thus deserves a major version of its own. Arie -- It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable. -- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Solved [was Re: Apache mod_ssl+mod_perl warns about "Subroutinemyfunc redefined"]
Well, one thing I discovered was that this warning did not only inhabit itself in Apache/SSL but also in normal Apache. STFEing for it yielded a workaround: use the pragma: no warnings "redefine"; Which would cause those warnings to disappear. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups..." "Wait a second - is n a natural number?" = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HTML to jpg/gif in Linux
Ben-Nes Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi All > > I want to convert html pages to jpg/gif images. > > The plane is more like: > > 1. print a Web page to file > 2. convert ps to jpg or gif > > How can I print from console ( with color ) to file a web page ? > > Does any body have a better way then i wrote above ? For some reason my response didn't get to the list, so I decided to try again - sorry if it appears twice in the end. Will $ lynx -source > foo.html $ convert foo.html foo.jpeg do what you want? [UNTESTED] On a somewhat off-topic note, your question looks intriguing given http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26339.html ;-) -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "IBM is a pretty big company." [W. Gates] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Next RH release (was KDE 3.0.2 RPM packages)
On Wednesday 24 July 2002 21:44, Arie Folger wrote: > On Wednesday 24 July 2002 13:43, Ely Levy wrote: > > There is another beta planned for near future so I think it would take a > > bit before 8.0 (I think this beta would be for 7.4). > > OK. So is 7.4 coming out really soon, or no earlier than September? BTW, I > do think that the next release or RH will be 8.0, because the beta is based > on gcc 3.1 which is a major architectural change, and thus deserves a major > version of its own. 8.0 - not 7.4, since it's binary incompatible (glibc, gcc, rpm 4.1.0, etc..) Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LWN: The end of the road
http://lwn.net/Articles/5409/ -- -- regards +--- + Guy Baruch , Plasma Laboratory, Weizmann Institue. + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + phone: 972-8-934-2211 +--- If you've got something in your pocket that says, "In God We Trust" on it, please send it to your local church where it belongs, before it's too late! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LWN: The end of the road
Guy Baruch wrote: > > http://lwn.net/Articles/5409/ :-( It is a sad day for me, as a permanent reader (I haven't missed even ONE weekly edition, in the last years!). Contrary to other sources, this one was objective, based on real reporters and not communicates of vendors, with professional interpretation, a lot of brave (nobody was forgiven, even not RMS who was severely criticized), knowledge in all the aspects of Linux (including kernel internals and security) and a very high quality. Although any news item was published immediately, by reading the weekly edition you could get an excellent overview of what happened in the last week, in about 20 minutes, once a week (Thursday's morning). The weekly edition was also divided to sections, so you could skip sections that didn't interest you, and focused only on things that are important for you. A secret that only a few people know, is that LWN was indirectly controlled by Israelis for one or two years. About 2 years ago, Tucows (then under the control of Benny Steinmatz, Yossi Vardi, etc.) acquisited LWN. Later (I think a few months ago), they realized that except for paying salaries, LWN doesn't give them anything, so they "deleted" it and returned it to its employees, for free. T.N.Z.B.A -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314 P.O.B. 7004 Mobile: +972-50-23-7338 Kfar-Saba 44641, Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
file systems
Can anyone explain the differences/ definitions of the following FS- ext2, ext3, jfs, xfs thanks
Re: file systems
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Shai Bentin wrote: > Can anyone explain the differences/ definitions of the following FS- > ext2, ext3, jfs, xfs You forgot ReiserFS -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
