Re: Rotal USB ADSL *almost* success

2002-10-31 Thread Alexander Maryanovsky
By the way, the same thing happens with my Evo N160 laptop...


Alexander Maryanovsky.

At 23:38 27.10.2002 +0200, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote:


2. Seems like you missed some modules to compile. Please look at the
TROUBLESHOOTING document which is in the tar.gz file.


Ahh, how didn't I think of that before . Anyway, the 
TROUBLESHOOTING file was very helpful - apparently I wasn't supposed to 
compile usb support into the kernel, but leave it as a module.


> What will not happen? The "breakage" or me needing to dual boot? :-)

Hmm, Apparently something is not the same as with the modems that are 
imported
to Israel by Rotal. I'll check it this week.

Actually, the TROUBLESHOOTING file talks about that too. I'm supposed to 
either unload all the modules before rebooting or unplug the modem and 
then plug it back in. I'll choose the latter for now :-)


Anyway, the good (great?) news is that I managed to get connected. The bad 
news is that after about a minute, the connection died. It didn't say it 
died (the small ppp monitor next to the CPU monitor continued to be 
displayed), nothing was printed to /var/log/messages, but I couldn't 
connect anywhere anymore, couldn't ping anything and couldn't resolve any 
hostnames. I tried it again several times, with the same result.


Almost there,
Alexander Maryanovsky.

P.S. Wish me luck on my Entomology quiz - it ain't no kernel hacking you 
know :-)

At 22:06 27.10.2002 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> Since this seems to be something Hetz wrote (or at least knows a lot
> about), I was thinking that maybe he would know what the problem is
> immediately. Since it seems to be a configuration problem (i.e. not a bug
> or a hardware problem), I don't think debugging or stracing it will help,
> as there probable *is* no "offending" command. Probably one of the 
commands
> fails, but we already know why - it told us exactly why:

1. No, it's not my script (startmodem is a script) and it was written by the
french team. I did few small fixes there.

> ioctl(PPPIOCGFLAGS): Inappropriate ioctl for device

2. Seems like you missed some modules to compile. Please look at the
TROUBLESHOOTING document which is in the tar.gz file.

> >It is my suggestion to get it working first. There is a possibility
> >that it will not happen once the modem will work in a satisfactory
> >manner.
>
> What will not happen? The "breakage" or me needing to dual boot? :-)

Hmm, Apparently something is not the same as with the modems that are 
imported
to Israel by Rotal. I'll check it this week.

Thanks,
Hetz


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Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen

2002-10-31 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting David Howard, from the post of Thu, 31 Oct:
> On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 10:43, Martin Polley wrote:
> > I've heard good things about Xine, too. (The pronunciation doesn't
> sound
> > good in Hebrew though...)
> > 
> IIRC, the former Xine page showed that the recommended pronunciation was
> "kseen". 

I pronounce it the same as Zine, but I am not anal about it :)

> But if you're worried about xine, how about the English
> pronunciation of "Haifux"? Sexual activity on top of the Carmel?

and that I pronounce KHAY-fooks. then again, most Israelis pronounce FAQ
as "fuck".

does everything unix sound so bad in Hebrew? see, in English you can
make love with unix (unzip; strip; touch; finger; mount; fsck; more;
yes; umount; sleep), but somehow, all I could use it for in Hebrew is
for cursing...

Pico scheme emacs, man yacc!


back to topic: your problem may have to do with a problematic DRI
support (or lack of it) in the kernel, or the X server. did you try
upgrading either? try also changing scan rates for your X, or changing
the video modes...

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Re: Subversion Hosting Needed

2002-10-31 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 31, 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote about "Subversion Hosting Needed":
> >
> > Hi good people.
> >
> > After the BitKeeper fiasco, I studied several Open-Source Alternatives and
> > eventually decided that I will go with Subversion
> > (http://subversion.tigris.org) for the time being. The problem is that I
> > don't have a repository that resides on a permanently connected, high
> > bandwidth server.
>
> What are you planning to host on this server?
> With all due respect, hosting your hobby projects, freecell-solver et al.,
> does not really require a "high bandwidth server". Your "high bandwidth
> server" requirement will only scare away people from helping you.
>

What I meant was that I do not wish the server to reside across an ADSL or
ISDN connection since that way I will get poor connectivity. When I work
on the Technion I have a good connection to the IIX and to the MBone, and
that way it would be sluggish.

> > So I'm addressing you: does anybody here has a machine with a T1
> > connection to the Israeli backbone where he can (and is willing to) host
> > it?
>
> If you are willing to pay a bit for this (I mean paying a small share of
> the actual hosting cost shared by several people, a "hosting co-op",
> if you will), please contact me in private.

I will, thanks.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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> are already involved in one, fiasco.org.il.
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Re: USB 2

2002-10-31 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
RedHat's 7.3 and 8.0's kernel support USB 2.0 out of the box..

Thanks,
Hetz


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> Hi All
> 
> Does Linux support USB 2 ?
> 
> I want to connect a external HD to a usb2 port and work at max HD speed.
> 
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RE: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen

2002-10-31 Thread David Howard
On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 10:43, Martin Polley wrote:
> I've heard good things about Xine, too. (The pronunciation doesn't
sound
> good in Hebrew though...)
> 
IIRC, the former Xine page showed that the recommended pronunciation was
"kseen". But if you're worried about xine, how about the English
pronunciation of "Haifux"? Sexual activity on top of the Carmel?

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USB 2

2002-10-31 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Hi All

Does Linux support USB 2 ?

I want to connect a external HD to a usb2 port and work at max HD speed.

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Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen

2002-10-31 Thread Arie Folger
Thank you both. I downloaded and installed it, and the problem persists. I 
will have my wife check the physical media (her friend has a standalone 
dvdplayer, but may not work if the region is set, the dvd is European and I 
am in the US; could that be the source of trouble? I doubt it, Linux 
dvdplayers should not care about region).

Arie

On Thursday 31 October 2002 10:25, Oleg Kobets wrote:
> http://mirrors.sctpc.com/dominik/linux/pkgs/mplayer/
>
> Try this one.
>
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Polley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Arie Folger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Oleg Kobets"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Linux IL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:03 PM
> Subject: RE: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
>
>
> You can get mplayer RPMs (none specifically for RH8.0 or in Rawhide, but
> Mandrake or Freshrpms versions may work):
>
> http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=mplayer&submit=Search
> +...
>
> (Copy/paste the link, including the ...)
>
> HTH,
>
> Martin Polley
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>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Arie Folger [mailto:afolger@;ymail.yu.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 6:00 PM
> To: Martin Polley; Oleg Kobets
> Cc: Linux IL
> Subject: Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen
>
> On Thursday 31 October 2002 03:43, Martin Polley wrote:
> > I've heard good things about Xine, too. (The pronunciation doesn't
> > sound good in Hebrew though...)
>
> Since I posted, I tried Xine as well, and same result. I am gonna look
> for a
> neighbour to test the physical media.
>
> I tried downloading mplayer, but had no success (timeout).
>
> Arie
>
> -- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --
>
> > > I am using RH8.0, and the following relevant packages are installed:
> > >
> > > aalib-1.4rc4-fr2.1 alsa-lib-0.9.0rc3 libdvdcss-1.2.3-fr1
> > > libdvdread-0.9.3-fr1.1
> > > lirc-0.6.5-fr3
> > > ogle-0.8.5-fr3
> > > ogle_gui-0.8.5-fr2
> > > videolan-client-0.4.5-fr1
> > >
> > > Any idea why this trouble?
>
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Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen

2002-10-31 Thread Oleg Kobets
http://mirrors.sctpc.com/dominik/linux/pkgs/mplayer/

Try this one.

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You can get mplayer RPMs (none specifically for RH8.0 or in Rawhide, but
Mandrake or Freshrpms versions may work):

http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=mplayer&submit=Search
+...

(Copy/paste the link, including the ...)

HTH,

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-Original Message-
From: Arie Folger [mailto:afolger@;ymail.yu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 6:00 PM
To: Martin Polley; Oleg Kobets
Cc: Linux IL
Subject: Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen


On Thursday 31 October 2002 03:43, Martin Polley wrote:
> I've heard good things about Xine, too. (The pronunciation doesn't
> sound good in Hebrew though...)

Since I posted, I tried Xine as well, and same result. I am gonna look
for a
neighbour to test the physical media.

I tried downloading mplayer, but had no success (timeout).

Arie

-- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --

> > I am using RH8.0, and the following relevant packages are installed:

> > aalib-1.4rc4-fr2.1 alsa-lib-0.9.0rc3 libdvdcss-1.2.3-fr1
> > libdvdread-0.9.3-fr1.1
> > lirc-0.6.5-fr3
> > ogle-0.8.5-fr3
> > ogle_gui-0.8.5-fr2
> > videolan-client-0.4.5-fr1
> >
> > Any idea why this trouble?


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RE: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen

2002-10-31 Thread Martin Polley
You can get mplayer RPMs (none specifically for RH8.0 or in Rawhide, but
Mandrake or Freshrpms versions may work):

http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=mplayer&submit=Search
+...

(Copy/paste the link, including the ...)

HTH,

Martin Polley
Technical Communicator
http://www.surf-com.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
From: Arie Folger [mailto:afolger@;ymail.yu.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 6:00 PM
To: Martin Polley; Oleg Kobets
Cc: Linux IL
Subject: Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen


On Thursday 31 October 2002 03:43, Martin Polley wrote:
> I've heard good things about Xine, too. (The pronunciation doesn't 
> sound good in Hebrew though...)

Since I posted, I tried Xine as well, and same result. I am gonna look
for a 
neighbour to test the physical media.

I tried downloading mplayer, but had no success (timeout).

Arie

-- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --

> > I am using RH8.0, and the following relevant packages are installed:

> > aalib-1.4rc4-fr2.1 alsa-lib-0.9.0rc3 libdvdcss-1.2.3-fr1
> > libdvdread-0.9.3-fr1.1
> > lirc-0.6.5-fr3
> > ogle-0.8.5-fr3
> > ogle_gui-0.8.5-fr2
> > videolan-client-0.4.5-fr1
> >
> > Any idea why this trouble?


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Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen

2002-10-31 Thread Arie Folger
On Thursday 31 October 2002 03:43, Martin Polley wrote:
> I've heard good things about Xine, too. (The pronunciation doesn't sound
> good in Hebrew though...)

Since I posted, I tried Xine as well, and same result. I am gonna look for a 
neighbour to test the physical media.

I tried downloading mplayer, but had no success (timeout).

Arie

-- ORIGINAL MESSAGE --

> > I am using RH8.0, and the following relevant packages are installed:
> > aalib-1.4rc4-fr2.1 alsa-lib-0.9.0rc3
> > libdvdcss-1.2.3-fr1
> > libdvdread-0.9.3-fr1.1
> > lirc-0.6.5-fr3
> > ogle-0.8.5-fr3
> > ogle_gui-0.8.5-fr2
> > videolan-client-0.4.5-fr1
> >
> > Any idea why this trouble?


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Re: X-Chat 1.9.3 with built-in Bidi(Pango) and AA works nice.

2002-10-31 Thread Barak Kaufman
still the same
must be something with the gnome2 configuration(?)
i'll take a deeper look in it over the weekend if i have time
any news on kvirc i18n support btw ?

On Thursday 31 October 2002 09:55, Amir Sela wrote:
> On Thursday 31 October 2002 02:17, Barak Kaufman wrote:
> > supplimental apparently its something with the connection to the server
> > itself because if i delete the /.xchat2 dir and run xchat i get the
> > server connection dialogue and when i try to connect it craches.
> > i woudl still appretiate any ideas
> > p.s. 1.8.9 works  :)
>
> Well, I still wouldn't be sure it's not a font related issue, since it
> doesn't try to use the font you choose in xchat.conf until the server tab
> is shown(the server list uses some other font for that, I think).
> Furthermore, it seems rather far-fetched to me that the network code itself
> is faulty. If it segfaults because of some bad socket, it would have been
> immediately noticed by all 1.9.3 users and fixed promptly.
>  I do recall having a similar situation in one of my tries. I suggest you
> start off by giving it the default font that it wants. which means,
> installing the appropriate deb for it, of course. just search for the font
> name in packages.debian.org, and install the package it's in(I did that as
> well). Also, you should probably try and compile from the
> xchat-20021024.tar.bz2 package on X-Chat's site. That's what I used when I
> actually got it to work yesterday. Lastly, because I still think it's a
> font issue, you might want to try and compile it with Pango, and then
> directly with Xft, and see if it exhibits the same behaviour. This can give
> more accurate information where the problem resides.
> Hope this helps,
> Amir.

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RE: upcoming java ssh2?

2002-10-31 Thread Tzahi Fadida
In that case, I agree with you.
The thing is, it is easier to circumvent a firewall/ids/whatever than to
buy a fw1 that costs 18k$ and who knows
how much you will need to pay for the unlimited version if you have a
large organization.
anyway, I think that the corporates are going to loose that battle as
long as the bandwidth is going to rise,
and the hardware to inspect the information is going to skyrocket.
Enter Linux, a moderate solution to a big problem. better Linux than
nothing. It does come with costs,
but as all polls suggest it is negligible compared to the commercial
enterprise solutions out there.(non-linux)

well, I think this thread reached its limit.

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>
>
>
> Tzahi Fadida wrote:
>
> >i disagree, since as long that there will be free access to internet
> >nodes, i.e: unlike some cellular companies that provide WAP services
> >do(they only allow you to surf their internal wap pages)
> >
> >you can find a way to access these resources, since inside the
> >definition of "allow a b c" you allow side effects to
> infiltrate which
> >is at the heart of the internet technology makeup
> >
> >
> Forgive me for erasing your example. I think you have
> misunderstood what
> I said
>
> If I understand your point correctly, you are trying to say that any
> given policy, assuming it is slightly permissive, can be used
> to relay
> ANY information, assuming cooporation from both sides of the
> communication. With that point I agree
>
> My point, however, is that any *given* method of overloading one
> (presumably unwanted) method of communication over another
> (presumably
> wanted, or at least allowed) can be detected on the way,
> assuming enough
> resources (unless encryption is used with the legitimate method, in
> which case all bets are off)
>
> Now, if you look at the two points raised, you can easily see
> that for
> large deployment P2P clients and instant messangers, there is
> a race. It
> consist of "security" technologies adapting to a given protol
> to block
> it, "bypass" technologies bypass to that specific enhanced
> control, to
> bypass it, and go back to step one. This is what I called in
> my previous
> email "the race is on"
>
> Shachar
>
>
>
>
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Re: Subversion Hosting Needed

2002-10-31 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote about "Subversion Hosting Needed":
> 
> Hi good people.
> 
> After the BitKeeper fiasco, I studied several Open-Source Alternatives and
> eventually decided that I will go with Subversion
> (http://subversion.tigris.org) for the time being. The problem is that I
> don't have a repository that resides on a permanently connected, high
> bandwidth server.

What are you planning to host on this server?
With all due respect, hosting your hobby projects, freecell-solver et al.,
does not really require a "high bandwidth server". Your "high bandwidth
server" requirement will only scare away people from helping you.

> So I'm addressing you: does anybody here has a machine with a T1
> connection to the Israeli backbone where he can (and is willing to) host
> it?

If you are willing to pay a bit for this (I mean paying a small share of
the actual hosting cost shared by several people, a "hosting co-op",
if you will), please contact me in private.
The hosting co-op idea is not new, by the way - several people on this list
are already involved in one, fiasco.org.il.


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Re: upcoming java ssh2?

2002-10-31 Thread Shachar Shemesh


Tzahi Fadida wrote:


i disagree, since as long that there will be free access to internet
nodes, i.e: unlike some cellular companies that provide WAP services
do(they only allow you to surf their internal wap pages).

you can find a way to access these resources, since inside the
definition of "allow a b c" you allow side effects to infiltrate which
is at the heart of the internet technology makeup.
 

Forgive me for erasing your example. I think you have misunderstood what 
I said.

If I understand your point correctly, you are trying to say that any 
given policy, assuming it is slightly permissive, can be used to relay 
ANY information, assuming cooporation from both sides of the 
communication. With that point I agree.

My point, however, is that any *given* method of overloading one 
(presumably unwanted) method of communication over another (presumably 
wanted, or at least allowed) can be detected on the way, assuming enough 
resources (unless encryption is used with the legitimate method, in 
which case all bets are off).

Now, if you look at the two points raised, you can easily see that for 
large deployment P2P clients and instant messangers, there is a race. It 
consist of "security" technologies adapting to a given protol to block 
it, "bypass" technologies bypass to that specific enhanced control, to 
bypass it, and go back to step one. This is what I called in my previous 
email "the race is on".

   Shachar



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Subversion Hosting Needed

2002-10-31 Thread Shlomi Fish

Hi good people.

After the BitKeeper fiasco, I studied several Open-Source Alternatives and
eventually decided that I will go with Subversion
(http://subversion.tigris.org) for the time being. The problem is that I
don't have a repository that resides on a permanently connected, high
bandwidth server.

So I'm addressing you: does anybody here has a machine with a T1
connection to the Israeli backbone where he can (and is willing to) host
it?

Subversion requires install Berkeley DB 4.0.x, Apache 2 linked against it
and then its own program and Apache module. All of them can be installed
in their own dedicated path and run on irregular ports (e.g: 8080). I
already compiled and installed it on my computer so I can simply cp it and
set it up there, if the need arises.

But the critical thing for me is the host. Subversion works entirely over
HTTP or HTTPS.

Thanks in advance,

Shlomi Fish



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Perl meeting on 7th of November in TA

2002-10-31 Thread Gabor Szabo
The Next Perl Meeting of the Israel.pm Perl Mongers Group will
be on 7th of November in Tel Aviv in the classes of
Interbit ( http://www.interbit.co.il/ )


where I have just finished teaching a 4-day Fundamentals of Perl class
and where you should send your co-workers to learn Perl.


More details are on the www.perl.org.il address
Pleas let me know if you plan to come.

Finally we'll have a projector for our presentations !
Bring your laptop to show off !

After the meeting we'll check out which of the local pubs
are decent for us :-)

regards
   Gabor




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RE: upcoming java ssh2?

2002-10-31 Thread Tzahi Fadida
that is true, no beef there, but i consider this a bad practice. if i
were to manage these thing i wouldn't want
to make my workers feel hunted or some kind of paranoia that many
companies foolishly makes their workers feel. the easier and much better
thing to do, is just limit the bandwidth and let the workers do what the
hell they want. believe me, a happy worker would do more for the company
than a one that thinks all day how to circumvent the system or if
someone is spying on him.
as i said, thats your worst nightmare. a disgruntled worker can do more
damage than any cracker can.


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> -Original Message-
> From: Tzafrir Cohen [mailto:tzafrir@;technion.ac.il]
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:16 AM
> To: Tzahi Fadida
> Cc: Robert Wallner; Linux-IL mailing list
> Subject: RE: upcoming java ssh2?
>
>
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
>
> > this just show how naive are administrators today. anyway,
> as u know or
> > not know u don't have to be a hacker today to do what the
> hell u want
> > if I wanna surf whatever the bleeping I want, I can do it
> and be sure
> > every person who know how to operate a computer
>
> That may be true for occasional surfing, ssh and other low-bandwidth
> activities
>
> Mass downloading (and worse: mass-uploading)  is really easy
> to detect,
> simply due to the volume of traffic. It also consumes a
> valueble resource
> that others need for much more important uses
>
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RE: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen

2002-10-31 Thread Martin Polley
I've heard good things about Xine, too. (The pronunciation doesn't sound
good in Hebrew though...)

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-Original Message-
From: Oleg Kobets [mailto:gwizard@;clean-mail.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:15 AM
To: Arie Folger
Cc: Linux IL
Subject: Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen


Just 2 words for ya, USE MPLAYER.

It has all you could ever want, little buggy yes, but works ok
nevertheless.

You can get it from www.mplayer.hu


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Breakthrough LTD.
054-747132
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"Black hole is God divided by zero"
- Original Message -
From: "Arie Folger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Linux-IL mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:59 AM
Subject: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen


> Hi,
>
> I installed ogle and videolan client, and both suffer from the same
illnes: I
> see only half the image, and that half is kind of displayed twice.
>
> I am using RH8.0, and the following relevant packages are installed: 
> aalib-1.4rc4-fr2.1 alsa-lib-0.9.0rc3
> libdvdcss-1.2.3-fr1
> libdvdread-0.9.3-fr1.1
> lirc-0.6.5-fr3
> ogle-0.8.5-fr3
> ogle_gui-0.8.5-fr2
> videolan-client-0.4.5-fr1
>
> Any idea why this trouble?
>
> Arie
> --
> It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man who 
> cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as he is 
> already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable.
>-- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics
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Re: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen

2002-10-31 Thread Oleg Kobets
Just 2 words for ya, USE MPLAYER.

It has all you could ever want, little buggy yes, but works ok nevertheless.

You can get it from www.mplayer.hu


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"Black hole is God divided by zero"
- Original Message -
From: "Arie Folger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Linux-IL mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:59 AM
Subject: dvd player*s* show twice same half screen


> Hi,
>
> I installed ogle and videolan client, and both suffer from the same
illnes: I
> see only half the image, and that half is kind of displayed twice.
>
> I am using RH8.0, and the following relevant packages are installed:
> aalib-1.4rc4-fr2.1
> alsa-lib-0.9.0rc3
> libdvdcss-1.2.3-fr1
> libdvdread-0.9.3-fr1.1
> lirc-0.6.5-fr3
> ogle-0.8.5-fr3
> ogle_gui-0.8.5-fr2
> videolan-client-0.4.5-fr1
>
> Any idea why this trouble?
>
> Arie
> --
> It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man
> who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as
> he is already like this, such a man is no better than a vegetable.
>-- Book IV of Aristotle's Metaphysics
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RE: upcoming java ssh2?

2002-10-31 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Tzahi Fadida wrote:

> this just show how naive are administrators today. anyway, as u know or
> not know u don't have to be a hacker today to do what the hell u want.
> if I wanna surf whatever the bleeping I want, I can do it and be sure
> every person who know how to operate a computer.

That may be true for occasional surfing, ssh and other low-bandwidth
activities.

Mass downloading (and worse: mass-uploading)  is really easy to detect,
simply due to the volume of traffic. It also consumes a valueble resource
that others need for much more important uses.

-- 
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:tzafrir@;technion.ac.il
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir



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