RE: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Martin Polley wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Arie Folger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:42 PM
> > To: MartinPolley; Ely Levy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet
> >
> >
> > On Thursday 21 November 2002 01:50, Martin Polley wrote:
> > > It does #2 and #5 as well. Just enabling font embedding is not
> > > enough--you have to make the Hebrew fonts available to GhostScript.
> >
> > Why not, ghostscript has no problem printing Hebrew coming from
> > konqueror or
> > lyx, after all?
> >
>
> It depends on the font. If it is a font that is already available to X
> apps AND to gs, no problem.

Actually, X and gs use two different sets of fonts.

>
> If it is available to X and NOT to gs, then you need to make it
> available to gs.

if it is embedded in the document, it is available to gs (while printing
the document)

Not embedding the fonts saves you some time on printing, but also makes
the produced postscript unportable: in your personal computer there is
just one copy of gs that will interpert it, including printing and
conversions.

However, you may want to use the produced postscript elsewhere (a
different postscript printer, create a postscript document, etc.). In
This case, your document is problematic.

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Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet

[Oleg Kobets]

Ahh, I remember the time I surfed BBS's with 2400bps modem. When I managed
to d/l a 100kb text file I danced with joy :-)))

Today, if I don't get at least 50kbs I get pissed off. Go figure :)

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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet


> Quoting Arie Folger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I'll wait for kde 3.1 and see (man, that's gonna be some download.
> > It's the first time I'll have to do it over 5k line :-(.)
>
> I obviously meant a 56k line. Nobody but museum curators use 5k anymore,
if it
> ever existed (1200bps, anyone ;-))
>
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Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet

[afolger]

Quoting Arie Folger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'll wait for kde 3.1 and see (man, that's gonna be some download. 
> It's the first time I'll have to do it over 5k line :-(.)

I obviously meant a 56k line. Nobody but museum curators use 5k anymore, if it 
ever existed (1200bps, anyone ;-))

Arie

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Re: PPtP problem

[Baruch Even]

First thing to check is if you added a routing entry for the internal
network.

PPTP by default only adds a route to the internal ip of the pptp
gateway, that is if the pptp server gives you a 192.168.1.2 and it has a
192.168.1.1, there will be only a route to 192.168.1.1, you need to add
a route of 192.168.1.0/24 yourself.

If you remove the default gateway route and don't place some other route
on which the tcp/gre packets can travel the link will die when the ppp
process will send an LCP echo request and receive an ICMP unreachable
error packet.

After you connect with pptp check what routes you have, you need to have
one route on the ppp+ link, you can then try to ping the internal ip of
the pptp server, this should work (ping 192.168.1.1, with the numbers
above).

If it doesn't work, there is probably a firewall on that pptp server
that prevents it from answering your icmp packets.

If it did work just add the route for the internal network over the ppp+
link and you should be able to access any non-firewalled computer on the
internal network.

Baruch

* Michael Sternberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021121 19:21]:
> 
> I have problem using Win2K VPN server from Linux.
> 
> I success to connect to it, to receive an IP address in remote network,
> but when I try to ping something inside intranet I fail. I even can not
> ping other side of PPtP link. When I replace my default gateway with
> second side of link - PPtP connection stops after a few seconds.
> 
> The whole process of connection goes well, I have an MPPE patched 2.4.16
> kernel and no error messages are seen when I start pptp with "debug"
> option.
> 
> Where I can look to understand the problem ?
> I feel that this is something related to routing tables - but what ?
> 
> Thanks, Michael.
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Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet

[Arie Folger]

On Thursday 21 November 2002 03:32, you wrote:
> > Should I forward this to some kde developer? (Lars ... what's his email?)
> He's actually on this list ;-)

> Comments to some of your points (I have no idea about the others):
>
> 1* can produce ps
> 2* ps has embedded fonts
>
> Both should work. I wonder why not, as you said font embedding works from
> konqueror. kword uses exactly the same postscript driver (the one from Qt).
> The only reason I could see is that you used a bitmapped font in kword
> (which can't get embedded into the generated PS)

Wel, that isn't the reason. First, when I click file->print and then click on 
the button "system options", the dialog that appears has the optino "embed 
fonts" already ticked (it's a tick box).

Secondly, I was using Arial, a MS ttf wenfont, which does the job perfectly on 
konqueror, and kmail (which, IIRC, uses kedit, so you got one more app that 
works fine with Hebrew printing). The only thing I can think of is that kword 
doesn't like ttf.

> 5* can produce pdf
> 6* pdf that embeds fonts
>
> This is done by ghostscript. If your postscript output gets embedded fonts,
> you should be able to get the same for the PDF.

Sounds very reasonable. I guessed this much, but didn't test it (kind of hard 
when ps printing is broken :-(.)

> * when exporting to tex there is no way to specify an encoding other than
> latin1 or utf-8
> * html does not contain dir=rtl tags, an issue when a paragraph starts with
> certain sequences, such as "1.", which should be displayed as ".1", for
> rudimentary numbered lists, also, otherwise bullets are on the wrong side
> of the page
>
> These two sound like they are simple to fix, don't ask me about the other
> ones.
>
> Anyway, if you'd like these to be fixed, the best is to either file a
> report at bugs.kde.org, or maybe contact david faure (faure at kde org), as
> he is the maintainer of kword.

Thanks. I posted the above partly because I'd like these fixed. Although I am 
still upset about the not yet perfect displaying of Hebrew pages with 
footnotes. I'll wait for kde 3.1 and see (man, that's gonna be some download. 
It's the first time I'll have to do it over 5k line :-(.)


Arie



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PPtP problem

[Michael Sternberg]

I have problem using Win2K VPN server from Linux.

I success to connect to it, to receive an IP address in remote network,
but when I try to ping something inside intranet I fail. I even can not
ping other side of PPtP link. When I replace my default gateway with
second side of link - PPtP connection stops after a few seconds.

The whole process of connection goes well, I have an MPPE patched 2.4.16
kernel and no error messages are seen when I start pptp with "debug"
option.

Where I can look to understand the problem ?
I feel that this is something related to routing tables - but what ?

Thanks, Michael.

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Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet

[Arie Folger]

On Thursday 21 November 2002 09:53, Martin Polley wrote:
> It depends on the font. If it is a font that is already available to X
> apps AND to gs, no problem.
>
> If it is available to X and NOT to gs, then you need to make it
> available to gs.

> Arie Folger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Why not, ghostscript has no problem printing Hebrew coming from
> > konqueror or lyx, after all?

Hah, but in both cases we are talking about the same font, monotype Arial, 
which does contain the Hebrew codepage. You, OTOH, used times, which is not 
the same thing as times new roman. The former has only latin1 and may be 
latin2, while the latter is a unicode font covering much of the entire range 
(but I don't think it covers CJK codepages).

So I am still puzzled.

Arie
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RE: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet

[Martin Polley]

It depends on the font. If it is a font that is already available to X
apps AND to gs, no problem.

If it is available to X and NOT to gs, then you need to make it
available to gs. 

(I tried printing a Hebrew Word doc that I opened in KWord
(font--Times), and all the Hebrew came out as boxes.)

The main point is, you CAN embed the fonts.

Regards,

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-Original Message-
From: Arie Folger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:42 PM
To: Martin Polley; Ely Levy; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet


On Thursday 21 November 2002 01:50, Martin Polley wrote:
> It does #2 and #5 as well. Just enabling font embedding is not 
> enough--you have to make the Hebrew fonts available to GhostScript.

Why not, ghostscript has no problem printing Hebrew coming from
konqueror or 
lyx, after all?

Arie

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Re: Kword not ready for [Hebrew] prime time yet

[Arie Folger]

On Thursday 21 November 2002 01:50, Martin Polley wrote:
> It does #2 and #5 as well. Just enabling font embedding is not
> enough--you have to make the Hebrew fonts available to GhostScript.

Why not, ghostscript has no problem printing Hebrew coming from konqueror or 
lyx, after all?

Arie

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Re: Samba and hebrew file name

[Yedidyah Bar-David]

On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 01:01:37PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
> 
>Hi All
> 
> 
> 
>Is  there  a way that samba will store a Hebrew file name that will be
>accessible  using  direct  access  (  with  correct name ), I mean not
>through the smbmount ?

I think samba 3 will support saving filenames in UTF-8.
For 2.2, it gets from windows a CP862 (DOS) filename, that can be
translated to other things with various methods (e.g. recode, tr, iconv).

Samba can do this translation for you, but not for Hebrew.
I wrote a small patch that does that for hebrew. It's against 2.2.2,
and will probably work against newer 2.2 (I haven't tried).
You can find it in .

Didi

> 
> 
> 
>Cheers

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yesterday's panel

[Assaf Flatto]

Any body attended the panel in Dan panorama yesterday ?

what happened ?

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Samba and hebrew file name

[Ben-Nes Michael]

Hi All
 
Is there a way that samba will store a Hebrew file 
name that will be accessible using direct access ( with correct name ), I mean 
not through the smbmount ?
 
Cheers

Re: Problem with process accounting

[Oron Peled]

On 20 Nov 2002 13:46:02 +0200
Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 10:59, Michael Sternberg wrote:
> > ...
> > in "cmdline" there is a '\0' in place of last slash !!
> ...
> In short - it's the application (or whatever spawned it) fault.

This "reflection" of argv[0] to the outside world via ps(1) is common
to most Unices.  Moreover, some applications carefully change argv[0]
to convey important info to the outside world.

A famous example is sendmail. If you connect to the smtp
port on your mailserver and run ps on the mailserver
you should see (at least) two sendmail processes (one
waiting for connections and one serving your connection).
Note the difference in their names... cute, isn't it?


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