Re: 'fdisk /dev/hda' says it can't open /dev/hda

2003-10-11 Thread Sharon Dagan
Following advice given here, it turns out there's no /dev/hda :-)
Now what?

-S.

On Saturday 11 October 2003 03:03, Blue Prince wrote:
 fdisk /dev/hda fails - says it can't open /dev/hda.

 It *looks* as if this has started right after installing Windows 2000
 onto a
 second primary partition in the disk. Everything else is working OK,
 including GRUB and booting to both Linux and Windows. Also, when booting
 from
 the RH9 rescue disk, fdisk works and the partition table looks fine.

 Any idea?
 -S.



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Re: SOLVED 'fdisk /dev/hda' says it can't open /dev/hda

2003-10-11 Thread Sharon Dagan
Missing '/dev/hda' entry was fixed with 'mknod /dev/hda b 3 0'

-S.

On Saturday 11 October 2003 03:03, Blue Prince wrote:
 fdisk /dev/hda fails - says it can't open /dev/hda.

 It *looks* as if this has started right after installing Windows 2000
 onto a
 second primary partition in the disk. Everything else is working OK,
 including GRUB and booting to both Linux and Windows. Also, when booting
 from
 the RH9 rescue disk, fdisk works and the partition table looks fine.

 Any idea?
 -S.



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Re: 'fdisk /dev/hda' says it can't open /dev/hda

2003-10-11 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sat, Oct 11, 2003 at 02:49:11PM +0200, Sharon Dagan wrote:
 Following advice given here, it turns out there's no /dev/hda :-)
 Now what?

Is this a SCSI machine? what was the original question? 

To find out exactly which disks your kernel thinks you have, look at
the kernel's boot messages (run 'dmesg'). 
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Old computer linux dist.

2003-10-11 Thread Tzahi Fadida
Does anyone remember a site that i think was posted here, about Experience and
stories of people installing linux on old computers.

I have a p75 thinkpad 755cx that i wish to use as a word processing using latex
to write articles and slides.
i have an external pcmcia cdrom x6, and an ethernet pcmcia.
I have 500mb h.d
I just want the basic stuff so i can write papers using VIM or something similar
and then preview the results on my screen.

is there a ready dist that someone tried with an old thinkpad? last time(about a
year or so) i tried it wasn't so good, the 2.4 kernel didn't want to install it
kept crashing, but the 2.2 did.

10x.

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MSc Student
Information System Engineering Area
Faculty of Industrial Engineering  Management
Technion - Israel Institute of Technology
Technion City, Haifa, Israel 32000
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Re: Old computer linux dist.

2003-10-11 Thread Eli Billauer
I was successful with Debian Potato (2.2r0) on a P133 laptop of esoteric 
brand (AST). I would try that.

  Eli

Tzahi Fadida wrote:

Does anyone remember a site that i think was posted here, about Experience and
stories of people installing linux on old computers.
I have a p75 thinkpad 755cx that i wish to use as a word processing using latex
to write articles and slides.
i have an external pcmcia cdrom x6, and an ethernet pcmcia.
I have 500mb h.d
I just want the basic stuff so i can write papers using VIM or something similar
and then preview the results on my screen.
is there a ready dist that someone tried with an old thinkpad? last time(about a
year or so) i tried it wasn't so good, the 2.4 kernel didn't want to install it
kept crashing, but the 2.2 did.
10x.
 



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[ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released

2003-10-11 Thread shlomi


On October 11th 2003, the Kazit Project released the first beta release of 
Kazit2. 

Kazit started as a Hebrew-localized KnoppixKDE remaster
(http://www.kde.org/il/knoppixkde/).
however , KnoppixKDE is no longer under development.

Kazit2 is a remaster based on Knoppix3.3
It's purpose is to provide a Knoppix version with full Hebrew support.

(*) FEATURES:

* All locale setting were set to work as UTF8
* Hebrew language packages installed
* Improved keyboared layout switcher
* Open office upgraded to version 1.1 (no language packages)
* HSpell installed using 'multispell' for both Hebrew and English spell 
checking
* Works with Culmus fonts by default
* Added a textual menu on startup for choosing between full Hebrew or Hebrew 
enabled modes
* Several Hebrew related packages were installed: fribidi, bidiv, hebcal, 
qtzmanim, switcher
* Some tools (iwiz, my 012 PPTP script) for dialling PPTP/ADSL
* the 'Frozen bubble' game was not removed this time :D

(*) MORE INFO:

For additional information in Hebrew:
http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit.index.html

For a list of packaged that were removed browse:
http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-removed.txt

For a list of packages that were added browse:
http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-added.txt

for a full list (output of 'dpkg -l') :
http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-full-list.txt

Please note that these are unstable development releases with missing or 
non-working features and are not intended for production systems.

If you think that some package should be included, please email me and explain 
what package and why you think it should be included. Requests will be 
considered for the next release.

(*) DOWNLOAD

ISO file available for download at:
http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/

(*) FUTURE

I would like to receive as many as possible fixes and bug reports and release 
Kazit2-final when kde3.2 get released. There might be another Beta release 
till the final one.

(*) SCREENSHOTS/

Not available yet, will be later on.

(*)

I hope you'll find this remaster useful, it can be a great tool for Linux 
marketing IMO.

--
Shlomi Loubaton.


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Re: [emacs-bidi] UTR#9 - Unicode BiDi (was Re: OpenOffice BiDi kudos) (fwd)

2003-10-11 Thread Behdad Esfahbod


behdad,
who is going to study after finishing this mail.

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:54:31 -0400
From: Eli Zaretskii [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [emacs-bidi] UTR#9 - Unicode BiDi (was Re: OpenOffice BiDi
kudos)

 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 04:15:13 -0400
 From: Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Is it true that your implementation of Unicode Bidi algorithm
 does not follow the UTR#9, with respect to handligh dash?  Just
 wanted to make sure this is not true, otherwise, please consider
 following the standard.

Handa-san is currently trying to plug the sequential implementation of
UAX#9 that I wrote into the Emacs display code.  The code I wrote
renders H-5 as -5H, as per UAX#9.  One needs to type H-{RLM}5
to get the H-5 result that most Hebrew users want.

I guess we will need to get used to type RLM and LRM in similar
situations, since we must be UAX#9 compliant, and since UAX#9 results
in such madness in quite a few cases like this, sigh.


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released

2003-10-11 Thread Lior Kaplan
Some tools (iwiz, my 012 PPTP script) for dialing PPTP/ADSL

The iwiz (Kinneret's Internet Wizard) is already in there.

As far as I can understand, Shlomi only added features to Knoppix, without
removing the existing ones.


Regards,

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http://www.Guides.co.il

Come to write at the forums: http://www.guides.co.il/forums

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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: shlomi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released


Is it possible to install Kazit on the hard disk as it is with Knoppix?
What about adding the Internet connection wizard of Kinneret?

On Sunday 12 October 2003 00:11, shlomi wrote:
 On October 11th 2003, the Kazit Project released the first beta release of
 Kazit2.

 Kazit started as a Hebrew-localized KnoppixKDE remaster
 (http://www.kde.org/il/knoppixkde/).
 however , KnoppixKDE is no longer under development.

 Kazit2 is a remaster based on Knoppix3.3
 It's purpose is to provide a Knoppix version with full Hebrew support.

 (*) FEATURES:

 * All locale setting were set to work as UTF8
 * Hebrew language packages installed
 * Improved keyboared layout switcher
 * Open office upgraded to version 1.1 (no language packages)
 * HSpell installed using 'multispell' for both Hebrew and English spell
 checking
 * Works with Culmus fonts by default
 * Added a textual menu on startup for choosing between full Hebrew or
 Hebrew enabled modes
 * Several Hebrew related packages were installed: fribidi, bidiv, hebcal,
 qtzmanim, switcher
 * Some tools (iwiz, my 012 PPTP script) for dialling PPTP/ADSL
 * the 'Frozen bubble' game was not removed this time :D

 (*) MORE INFO:

 For additional information in Hebrew:
 http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit.index.html

 For a list of packaged that were removed browse:

http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-removed.txt

 For a list of packages that were added browse:
 http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-added.txt

 for a full list (output of 'dpkg -l') :

http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/kazit-2.0-beta-packages-full-list.t
xt

 Please note that these are unstable development releases with missing or
 non-working features and are not intended for production systems.

 If you think that some package should be included, please email me and
 explain what package and why you think it should be included. Requests
will
 be considered for the next release.

 (*) DOWNLOAD

 ISO file available for download at:
 http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/kazit2/

 (*) FUTURE

 I would like to receive as many as possible fixes and bug reports and
 release Kazit2-final when kde3.2 get released. There might be another Beta
 release till the final one.

 (*) SCREENSHOTS/

 Not available yet, will be later on.

 (*)

 I hope you'll find this remaster useful, it can be a great tool for Linux
 marketing IMO.

 --
 Shlomi Loubaton.


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Re: Old computer linux dist.

2003-10-11 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Tzahi Fadida wrote:

 Does anyone remember a site that i think was posted here, about Experience and
 stories of people installing linux on old computers.

 I have a p75 thinkpad 755cx that i wish to use as a word processing
 using latex to write articles and slides.
 i have an external pcmcia cdrom x6, and an ethernet pcmcia.
 I have 500mb h.d

How much memory?

 I just want the basic stuff so i can write papers using VIM or
 something similar and then preview the results on my screen.

My p133/32MB had no problem with such tasks. I figure that if you have
24MB or more you wan't have a problem. Just use a decent desktop (wmaker,
icewm, black/fluxbox, whatever).

Some distros have fancy installers that require some memory for the
ramdisk of the installer. But not all installers are so.


 is there a ready dist that someone tried with an old thinkpad? last
 time(about a year or so) i tried it wasn't so good, the 2.4 kernel
 didn't want to install it kept crashing, but the 2.2 did.

I figure you could make an installer with a custom kernel and later
rebuild the kernel on the system.

I should point out that debian/stable's installer installer has quite a
few different kernels available. Most of them are 2.2 .

(and its installer doesn't require tons of memory. and it is the greatest
distro. And I'm totally non-biased ;-) )

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Re: Old computer linux dist.

2003-10-11 Thread Shachar Shemesh
I was successful, just a week ago, with Debian Woody (3.0) on P100. I 
used, if I recall correctly, blackice as window manager. With 48MB of 
memory even OpenOffice ran, more or less, reasonable.

To install a 2.4 kernel, make sure it's a kernel compiled for a pentium 
(as opposed to Pentium Pro, PII, PIII or PIV). In Debian Woody this was 
done by apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-586tsc.

The beuty of Debian is that, by default, nothing is installed. This way 
you can avoid getting your HD filled too quickly. While several steps of 
the install required more HD than you have, the final image (I can 
actually give it to you, if you like) took about 400MB, with OpenOffice 
and Hebrew fonts installed. Bear in mind that this did not include the 
swap space, however. Depending on how much memory you have, you will 
need to define some. However, removing OpenOffice from the image will 
probably save so much space that this will not be an issue.

I experienced with reiserfs vs. ext3, and came to the conclusion that 
there was no noticeable difference. Aside from my usual liking of 
reiserfs, it also left a little more free space on the disk.

Shachar

Eli Billauer wrote:

I was successful with Debian Potato (2.2r0) on a P133 laptop of 
esoteric brand (AST). I would try that.

  Eli

Tzahi Fadida wrote:

Does anyone remember a site that i think was posted here, about 
Experience and
stories of people installing linux on old computers.

I have a p75 thinkpad 755cx that i wish to use as a word processing 
using latex
to write articles and slides.
i have an external pcmcia cdrom x6, and an ethernet pcmcia.
I have 500mb h.d
I just want the basic stuff so i can write papers using VIM or 
something similar
and then preview the results on my screen.

is there a ready dist that someone tried with an old thinkpad? last 
time(about a
year or so) i tried it wasn't so good, the 2.4 kernel didn't want to 
install it
kept crashing, but the 2.2 did.

10x.
 




--
Shachar Shemesh
Open Source integration consultant
Home page  resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Kazit2 beta released

2003-10-11 Thread shlomi
Lior Kaplan wrote:
 Some tools (iwiz, my 012 PPTP script) for dialing PPTP/ADSL

 The iwiz (Kinneret's Internet Wizard) is already in there.

 As far as I can understand, Shlomi only added features to Knoppix, without
 removing the existing ones.


 Regards,

 Lior Kaplan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.Guides.co.il

Yes, that is correct.

About installation: i think it should work but i didn't try it yet. 
This part was not hebrewlized yet anyway. My guess is that it would work the 
same way as knoppix 3.3 does, that is , install a unstable/testing debian 
system 

Shlomi.



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RE: Old computer linux dist.

2003-10-11 Thread Tzahi Fadida
10x,
yes, thats sounds good, i would like to get the image.
and i don't need openoffice.
i have 24mb ram though.
also, how do i dump the image via the ethernet connection? because last time, it
took me 2 days to set the external cdrom driver working.
also, is there a way to hibernate my thinkpad 755cx with linux? it will probably
need a fat16 on the first partition and the file hibernate.sys but there is
still a need to some software to activate it.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shachar Shemesh
 Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 11:36 PM
 To: Eli Billauer
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Old computer linux dist.


 I was successful, just a week ago, with Debian Woody (3.0) on P100. I
 used, if I recall correctly, blackice as window manager. With 48MB of
 memory even OpenOffice ran, more or less, reasonable.

 To install a 2.4 kernel, make sure it's a kernel compiled for a pentium
 (as opposed to Pentium Pro, PII, PIII or PIV). In Debian Woody this was
 done by apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-586tsc.

 The beuty of Debian is that, by default, nothing is installed. This way
 you can avoid getting your HD filled too quickly. While several steps of
 the install required more HD than you have, the final image (I can
 actually give it to you, if you like) took about 400MB, with OpenOffice
 and Hebrew fonts installed. Bear in mind that this did not include the
 swap space, however. Depending on how much memory you have, you will
 need to define some. However, removing OpenOffice from the image will
 probably save so much space that this will not be an issue.

 I experienced with reiserfs vs. ext3, and came to the conclusion that
 there was no noticeable difference. Aside from my usual liking of
 reiserfs, it also left a little more free space on the disk.

  Shachar

 Eli Billauer wrote:

  I was successful with Debian Potato (2.2r0) on a P133 laptop of
  esoteric brand (AST). I would try that.
 
Eli
 
  Tzahi Fadida wrote:
 
  Does anyone remember a site that i think was posted here, about
  Experience and
  stories of people installing linux on old computers.
 
  I have a p75 thinkpad 755cx that i wish to use as a word processing
  using latex
  to write articles and slides.
  i have an external pcmcia cdrom x6, and an ethernet pcmcia.
  I have 500mb h.d
  I just want the basic stuff so i can write papers using VIM or
  something similar
  and then preview the results on my screen.
 
  is there a ready dist that someone tried with an old thinkpad? last
  time(about a
  year or so) i tried it wasn't so good, the 2.4 kernel didn't want to
  install it
  kept crashing, but the 2.2 did.
 
  10x.
 
 
 


 --
 Shachar Shemesh
 Open Source integration consultant
 Home page  resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/



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