Re: hebrew in fedora revisited

2003-11-28 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 07:16:24AM +0200, Aaron wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am trying to type hebrew in vim and unlike in RH 9.0 I see no hebrew,
> I try changing fonts and no go.
> 
> I have the ability to read hebrew in kde but not in vim??
> 
> I would appreciate any help you could offer, thanks
> Aaron

If you work in unicode and use vim's builtin Hebrew support, run:

  :set aleph=1488


(To set it back to the default of 8bit Hebrew use ':set aleph=224')

BTW: a slightly related topic: In one of my debian unstable computers
the default font of gvim does not include Hebrew, and anyway it is too
wide. Anybody else has similar issues?

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Re: Debian.org Hacked... How far was it from apt-get installing Trojans?

2003-11-28 Thread Lior Kaplan
The kernel oops made them suspicions since it occurred in two servers.

Notice that they saw the init change though other tools.

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Subject: Re: Debian.org Hacked... How far was it from apt-get installing
Trojans?


> On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 10:49:43AM +0200, Maxim Kovgan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Noam Rathaus wrote:
> > >
> > > hi Noam!
> > > it is great you've brought up the subject,
> > > and if u find more info on what exactly was there,
> > > please post it on here.
> >
>
>
>   Some preliminary conclusions are at
>
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200
311/msg00012.html
> Do notice the disclaimer at the beginning of that message.
>   Bottom line of that report, as I understand it:
> 1. A sniffed password was used to access an (unprivileged) account
>on one machine.
> 2. At the time of the posting, the writer believes there is as of yet an
>unknown local root exploit used to go from having local unprivileged
>access to having root. This exploit was used to gain access to other
>machines.
> 3. A flaw in the kernel code of the Suckit rootkit that was installed
>and the aide monitor tool exposed the intrusion.
>
>
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Re: Debian.org Hacked... How far was it from apt-get installing Trojans?

2003-11-28 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 11:38:04AM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 10:49:43AM +0200, Maxim Kovgan wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Noam Rathaus wrote:
> > 
> > hi Noam!
> > it is great you've brought up the subject,
> > and if u find more info on what exactly was there,
> > please post it on here.
> 


  Some preliminary conclusions are at
  
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200311/msg00012.html
Do notice the disclaimer at the beginning of that message.
  Bottom line of that report, as I understand it:
1. A sniffed password was used to access an (unprivileged) account
   on one machine.
2. At the time of the posting, the writer believes there is as of yet an
   unknown local root exploit used to go from having local unprivileged 
   access to having root. This exploit was used to gain access to other 
   machines.
3. A flaw in the kernel code of the Suckit rootkit that was installed
   and the aide monitor tool exposed the intrusion.


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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-28 Thread Oded Arbel
On Friday 28 November 2003 20:49, you wrote:
>   xfs,  xiafs  are  supported).  If this probe fails,
>   mount will try to read the  file  /etc/filesystems,
>   or, if that does not exist, /proc/filesystems.  All
>   of the filesystem types listed there will be tried,

Mandrake 9.2, at least, does have /etc/filesystems and lists vfat but not 
msdos (IIRC Shlomo said he uses Mandrake)

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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 12:14:57PM +0200, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 08:43:14AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> > On Friday 28 November 2003 02:36, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Don't trust any app ;).  Change 'auto' to 'vfat' in fstab and
> > > give it a try.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks - that did it .
> 
> You have no idea what a relief this is for me :-)
> BTW, it's weird that msdos is ahead of vfat when 'auto'. Does anyone
> have any idea why is this? vfat exists for many years, and I don't
> think it's considered less stable than msdos. And now we see it's
> even better in some cases.

This devices are sometimes formated to fat12 or fat16 (don't rememeber
the fat types, one of these should be right) so this could maybe full
the auto detection.

> -- 
> Didi
> 
> > 
> > And thanks to all the others who made suggestions.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-28 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 08:43:14AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> > On Friday 28 November 2003 02:36, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Don't trust any app ;).  Change 'auto' to 'vfat' in fstab and
> > > give it a try.
> >
> >
> > Thanks - that did it .
>
> You have no idea what a relief this is for me :-)
> BTW, it's weird that msdos is ahead of vfat when 'auto'. Does anyone
> have any idea why is this? vfat exists for many years, and I don't
> think it's considered less stable than msdos. And now we see it's
> even better in some cases.


Quoting man mount:

  The type iso9660 is the default.  If no  -t  option
  is  given,  or  if  the auto type is specified, the
  superblock is probed for the filesystem type (adfs,
  bfs,  cramfs,  ext, ext2, ext3, hfs, hpfs, iso9660,
  jfs, minix, ntfs, qnx4, reiserfs, romfs, ufs, vxfs,
  xfs,  xiafs  are  supported).  If this probe fails,
  mount will try to read the  file  /etc/filesystems,
  or, if that does not exist, /proc/filesystems.  All
  of the filesystem types listed there will be tried,
  except  for  those  that are labeled "nodev" (e.g.,
  devpts, proc and nfs).

  Note that the auto type may  be  useful  for  user-
  mounted floppies.  Creating a file /etc/filesystems
  can be useful to change the probe order  (e.g.,  to
  try  vfat before msdos) or if you use a kernel mod-
  ule  autoloader.   Warning:  the  probing  uses   a
  heuristic  (the  presence  of appropriate `magic'),
  and could recognize the wrong filesystem type.
   ^

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Re: hebrew in fedora revisited

2003-11-28 Thread Kfir Lavi
Aaron wrote:

Hi all,

I am trying to type hebrew in vim and unlike in RH 9.0 I see no hebrew,
I try changing fonts and no go.
I have the ability to read hebrew in kde but not in vim??

I would appreciate any help you could offer, thanks
Aaron
 

Do you use xterm? Do you activate vim in xterm?
You need to use uxterm in order to use utf8 in xterm.
uxterm is a script that launches xterm with support of utf8.
Then you can type in hebrew.
Reading hebrew is not the same as writing in hebrew.

Regards,
Kfir Lavi
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Re: extended Israeli keyboard layout

2003-11-28 Thread Doron Shikmoni
SI1452 is in the process of being revised now (read: improved).
You may follow this revision process.
Regards,
Doron
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

Hi

http://iglu.org.il/cgi-bin/fom?file=86 has been updated regarding
keyboard configuration. I also put there more information about the
avilable extended variants of the Israeli layout in XFree 4.3 . 

They were originally added as initial prototypes, in hope to get user
input. Unfortunetly there has beenenough of that.
 



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tip - counting files

2003-11-28 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Here's a handy tip (although I'm sure this won't be news to many gurus). I 
recently needed to count how many files I had in a directory and all 
sub-directories. The following command does it:

find   /path/to/your/directory   -type f  |  wc -l

Just remember that, of course, it'll only count files in directories you have 
permission for. So, for example, runningfind /home -type f  |  wc -l
will only count your files and give error messages when trying to enter other 
users directories.

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IGLU FAQ and Hebrew keyboard layouts

2003-11-28 Thread Arie Folger
Hi,

I followed the recent discussion about developments in the IGLU FAQ, and 
wonder whether somebody could expand on the 4 different keyboard layouts (in 
fact, this needs to be integrated into the KDE help, too). I know that there 
are different layouts, but don't have the slightest clue as to what the 
difference between them is. In particular, I have no idea how to get niqud 
under Linux (I rarely use it, when I do, I am forced to use the insert 
character kind of options of either KDE or OOo).

Thanks for the good work, FAQ authors,


Arie Folger
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applicable to his case], let him behave as an ascetic. However, permission 
was not granted to record this in a book, to rule this way for the future 
generations, and to be stringent of one's own accord, unless he shall bring 
clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument].
paraphrase of Rabbi Asher ben Ye'hiel, as quoted by Rabbi Yoel
Sirkis, Ba'h, Yoreh De'ah 187:9, s.v. Umah shekatav.


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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-28 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Friday 28 November 2003 13:05, Amichai Rotman wrote:
> On Friday 28 November 2003 12:14, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> > You have no idea what a relief this is for me :-)
> > BTW, it's weird that msdos is ahead of vfat when 'auto'. Does anyone
> > have any idea why is this? vfat exists for many years, and I don't
> > think it's considered less stable than msdos. And now we see it's
> > even better in some cases.
> > --
> > Didi
>
> What was the DOK capacity?

128 Mega


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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-28 Thread Amichai Rotman
On Friday 28 November 2003 12:14, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> You have no idea what a relief this is for me :-)
> BTW, it's weird that msdos is ahead of vfat when 'auto'. Does anyone
> have any idea why is this? vfat exists for many years, and I don't
> think it's considered less stable than msdos. And now we see it's
> even better in some cases.
> --
> Didi

What was the DOK capacity? 

I encountered such a problem when the device being mounted has less han 
VFAT size (i.e.: <= 32 Mb). If that is the case, Kudzu guesses it's an 
MSDOS partition.

I remember a 100 Mb file was transfered, so it might not be the case,

Anyway, setting all MSDOS-like FSs to VFAT is a good idea, it's 
backward-compatible...

Amichai.


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RE: mozilla firebird.

2003-11-28 Thread Tzahi Fadida

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 4:00 AM
> To: Tzahi Fadida
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> Subject: Re: mozilla firebird.
>
>
> Hi Tzahi,
>
> 1. Why not use CTRL+T for a new tab?

I used to use Netcaptor(which is a wrapper for IE) till now, and i decided to
move(which there is no return now :) and i can't get used to CTRL-T. I keep
hitting CTRL-N and i had a feature there (netcaptor) that don't allow more then
one copy of netcaptor to be opened.

> 2. A look at the WebCT source code reveals that they use 'windows-1255'
> encoding. Make sure that encoding is well defined (font etc.). The rest of
> the Technion's site uses iso-8859-8 encoding.

You did not understand me, its not that i can't see hebrew at all. I just have
to go: view -> character coding - > windows 1255. the thing is, why isn't there
an autodetect for hebrew or that the fallback will be a hebrew encoding(which
the "customize" look like it, but it really falls back to western)? or there is
and i don't know where it is.
10x.

>
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>
> > I have a winbox which i run mozilla firebird.
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> new
> > tab will open instead of a new window. ( i tried the extention that do
> that, and
> > it worked for a while but it stoped doing it for some reason)
> > also, when i enter the technion site webCT it uses a western encoding on
> > default, and i entered in the "customize" the various hebrew encodings and
> have
> > put them first but to no avail, is there something to be done?
> > 10x.
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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-28 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 08:43:14AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
> On Friday 28 November 2003 02:36, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> 
> 
> > Don't trust any app ;).  Change 'auto' to 'vfat' in fstab and
> > give it a try.
> 
> 
> Thanks - that did it .

You have no idea what a relief this is for me :-)
BTW, it's weird that msdos is ahead of vfat when 'auto'. Does anyone
have any idea why is this? vfat exists for many years, and I don't
think it's considered less stable than msdos. And now we see it's
even better in some cases.
-- 
Didi

> 
> And thanks to all the others who made suggestions.
> 
> 
> -- 
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> http://come.to/shlomo.solomon
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Re: nfs mounting query

2003-11-28 Thread Noam Meltzer
from my experiments (mandrake 9.1, kernel-2.4.21-mdk0.25) and from the 
NFS(5) manpage it comes out that UDP will be the default protocol linux 
will try.
you can specify otherwise on the mount command (mount -t nfs -o tcp 
server:/share /mnt/bla) but that
will cause that if TCP fails it won't fallback to udp.

just a note:
on Solaris 8&9  (and HP-UX11.11) the default is TCP, and SUN even 
recommends on using TCP...
(and if some1 forgot... SUN invented NFS)

Noam

Erez Kirson wrote:

Hi

From my knowledge it does fall back to UDP,
I have tried this with NETAPP filers where you can just turn off "nfs tcp
support",
The linux client tries to mount tcp and then falls back to udp.
I have even tried to ues the -o proto=tcp , and it fails ( just to make sure
TCP nfs connections are disabled )
Hope it helped

Erez

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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-28 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Amichai Rotman wrote:

On Tuesday 25 November 2003 20:49, Kfir Lavi wrote:
 

When you post to a public list, the spammers will see your email and
...
   

Could we install a filter on the IGLU site / mail server / Plone to 
convert all e-mail addresses to someone at somewhere (like they do on 
Slashdot...

It might be too late for whoever´s on the list, but...

 

The problem is not that spammers subscribe to this list. The problem are 
the web archives.

At least the one on Hamakor's servers does that already 
(http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/archives/linux-il/)

 Shachar

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