Re: [offtopic] Government and technology
Hi! On Friday 06 February 2009 23:42:54 Ira Abramov wrote: > Oh, and just so this remains slightly on-topic, I am enjoying the nice, > round number of uptime days on my server, so I'll share it with you: > 23:40:21 up 512 days, 9:49, 2 users, load average: 0.89, 0.83, 1.11 > (it's the curse and the blessing of working with Debian "stable" :-) > That's a nice uptime. However, weren't there any newer kernels released since with important security updates? Won't that potentially jeopardise your system? Regards, Shlomi Fish (who is using Mandriva Cooker on his home machine, which recommends rebooting for every upgrade of the kernel, glibc or dbus, etc. and who is shutting down the computer at night anyway, to save on electricity.) -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ The Case for File Swapping - http://xrl.us/bjn7i I'm not interested in what you're doing; what are you trying to achieve? mauke: I'm trying to achieve world peace and this regex is the last thing standing in my way! ;) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [offtopic] Government and technology
HI Ira Who is the party? What subjects you raised with them? What distro you are interested to install and what laws you intend to propose them? I might be interested. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Ira Abramov wrote: > Howdie people! > > This is not directly connected to FOSS, but it's something many of you > may be worried about like me. > > I have recently helped one party add a technology chapter to their > platform, not before I made sure they understand the issues and their > importance. In fact they liked some of the ideas I raised so much I might > be > sitting down with them to prepare a bill or two on the matter, and start > moving this forward to make a few laws that will protect the citizens on > Israel from rights' violations, make the government more accountable and > transparent, reform the education system and on the way maybe solve a > few other things. Free Software is ofcourse a part of the > infrastructures proposed. > > I'm looking for a few proactive people to help me out with reviews and > ideas, please reply off list if you care to jump in! > > Oh, and just so this remains slightly on-topic, I am enjoying the nice, > round number of uptime days on my server, so I'll share it with you: > 23:40:21 up 512 days, 9:49, 2 users, load average: 0.89, 0.83, 1.11 > (it's the curse and the blessing of working with Debian "stable" :-) > > Thanks in advance, > Ira. > > -- > King of the house > Ira Abramov > http://ira.abramov.org/email/ > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Hebew in Fedora 10.
I installed Fedora 10 with KDE 4. I have installed kde-i18n-Hebrew however I still cannot add the Hebrew language in System Settings. What else should I add? I have been googling for an hour and gotten no where. Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Any Israeli KDE programmers want to fix bugs for beer?
Although I cannot code and as a poor student I cannot pay a programmer for programming time, I would like to encourage Israeli KDE programmers to take care of some issues: Recurring events on Hebrew calender http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149614 Hebrew calender: Shabbat times http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159316 Hebrew calendar plugin: print Hebrew dates when exporting calendar to HTML http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181110 Although any and all mailing list members are always welcome to stop by for a beer, extra beer will be poured for those who can help close these issues! Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Ubuntu Dok
I was able to update the BIOS on my HP DX2300 (also a business-class Micro Tower) with so-called 'Microsoft only' tools. I made a FreeDOS floppy and put the DOS AWFLASH executable with the BIOS *.bin file and it went great! Send me your Laptop details, and I'll send you a solution for updating the BIOS without Windows. .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. 2009/2/6 Ori Idan > There is a BIOS update, however since I do not have windows on this > computer, I can not run it. > > -- > Ori Idan > > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> 2009/2/5 Ori Idan : >> > It seems that the DoK solution is not good for me. >> > The computer I am trying to install on is IBM ThinkPad X31 and it seems >> that >> > it can't boot from DoK so although I have a working Ubuntu DoK I can not >> use >> > it for my computer. >> > Does anyone have any idea how can I install Ubuntu on this computer >> without >> > a CD? >> > The computer already has an old version of Debian running on it. >> > >> >> Have you searched for a BIOS update that would let you boot from USB? >> >> -- >> Dotan Cohen >> >> http://what-is-what.com >> http://gibberish.co.il >> >> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת >> ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي >> А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я >> а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я >> ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü >> > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Ubuntu Dok
2009/2/7 Amichai Rotman : > I was able to update the BIOS on my HP DX2300 (also a business-class Micro > Tower) with so-called 'Microsoft only' tools. > > I made a FreeDOS floppy and put the DOS AWFLASH executable with the BIOS > *.bin file and it went great! > > Send me your Laptop details, and I'll send you a solution for updating the > BIOS without Windows. > If you don't mind, Amichai, I'd like to post that info in a wiki or on my website. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.
1. it's a bit confusing - kde-i18-hebrew is the *KDE3* package for some reason. you should yum install kde-l10n-Hebrew for kde4 suuport. i tested it just now and it works fine. 2. i also recommend upgrading to kde 4.2, you have a repository for that here: http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/ (follow the YUM section for instructions, and enable the kde-testing repo) it's much much better than what the distro comes with, finally i'm back to KDE and it's usable again! On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I installed Fedora 10 with KDE 4. I have installed kde-i18n-Hebrew > however I still cannot add the Hebrew language in System Settings. > What else should I add? I have been googling for an hour and gotten no > where. Thanks. > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي > А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я > а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я > ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Hebrew spam: what to do about it?
I have started getting Hebrew spam again, even now that the new anti-spam law is in place. Sure, I _could_ just filter it, but I would prefer to make life miserable for the spammers, even at my own expense. What legal tools do I have? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:35:19PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I have started getting Hebrew spam again, even now that the new > anti-spam law is in place. Sure, I _could_ just filter it, but I would > prefer to make life miserable for the spammers, even at my own > expense. What legal tools do I have? You might want to have a look here: http://www.isoc.org.il/spam/ -- Didi ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.
On Saturday, 7 בFebruary 2009, Dvir Volk wrote: > 1. it's a bit confusing - kde-i18-hebrew is the *KDE3* package for > some reason. > you should yum install kde-l10n-Hebrew for kde4 suuport. i tested it > just now and it works fine. Hebrew didn't make it into KDE-4.1.x, as Diego chose (correctly IMO) to focus the limited time of the KDE Hebrew team towards having a better translated KDE-4.2 > 2. i also recommend upgrading to kde 4.2, you have a repository for > that here: > http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/ (follow the YUM section for > instructions, and enable the kde-testing repo) > it's much much better than what the distro comes with, finally i'm > back to KDE and it's usable again! The Fedora KDE team is heavily testing and bug-fixing KDE-4.2 for the release. In about a week it should land in the official repositories (which means you would get it if you simply yum update your system). The kde-redhat release are good if: - You are in a hurry and need it NOW. - Or you want to help debug it (in that case it may be better to use the live-cd/DOK spin the team produced -- http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/torrents/ without risking your production system) - Or you were using a slowly updating distribution such as RHEL or Centos. Personally, I'm waiting a week or so (Laziness...) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.
> The Fedora KDE team is heavily testing and bug-fixing KDE-4.2 for > the release. In about a week it should land in the official > repositories (which means you would get it if you simply yum update > your system). it's stable enough in my book, works better than the stable 4.1. I've been using it for about a weeek. rare crashes in plasma when fudging around heavily with widgets. but that sort of stuff happened on 4.1 too. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.
> The kde-redhat release are good if: > - Or you want to help debug it (in that case it may be better to > use the live-cd/DOK spin the team produced -- > http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/torrents/ > without risking your production system) Thanks! Actually, the reason that I am installing Fedora is to test a few Hebrew strings in Kontact that are wrong in Kubuntu. I'm downloading the f10-kde-4.2.0-1 torrent now, thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?
2009/2/7 sara fink : > I have a booklet from emun hatzibur with the law. They also have an example > how to file a law suit against spammers (see the last pages) of the > attachment. Sorry for the hebrew mismatch in the name of the file. > Thank you Sara, I will read that tomorrow. > BTW, send me the details where to send the fax for rashut hateufa. > פקס: 039752387 Don't forget to mention that going to the iaa.gov.il website just to look for the fax number gave this error: " דפדפן לא מתאים האתר מיועד לדפדפנים מסוג אינטרנט אקפלורר 5.5 ומעלה " -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?
Dotan Cohen wrote: I have started getting Hebrew spam again, even now that the new anti-spam law is in place. Sure, I _could_ just filter it, but I would prefer to make life miserable for the spammers, even at my own expense. What legal tools do I have? Anyone who got spam from "Rinat Zoref" and kept it is welcome to email me in private. Also, anyone who got spam from "divur.lasakim", likewise. And, whatever you do, KEEP THOSE EMAILS. I keep all of the Hebrew (and Israeli) spam I get. Shachar ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebew in Fedora 10.
On Saturday, 7 בFebruary 2009, Dvir Volk wrote: > > The Fedora KDE team is heavily testing and bug-fixing KDE-4.2 for > > the release. In about a week it should land in the official > > repositories (which means you would get it if you simply yum update > > your system). > > it's stable enough in my book, works better than the stable 4.1. I've > been using it for about a weeek. Indeed, I've installed one of the pre-release torrents on one workstation and have the same experience. However, it's hard to blame them for being too careful after they got burned in previous releases. There aren't many important blockers now except some problems in bluetooth support in Solid. * Meeting summary: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings * Dependency bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=kde42 Bye, -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron We don't do windows... ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?
On 08/02/2009, at 08:23, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Anyone who got spam from "Rinat Zoref" and kept it is welcome to email me in private. Also, anyone who got spam from "divur.lasakim", likewise. And, whatever you do, KEEP THOSE EMAILS. I keep all of the Hebrew (and Israeli) spam I get. Why keep them? Is there really any way to benefit from this, or is it a terrible waste of time. Should I stop filtering out Hebrew/Israeli spam? I get a LOT of it, because my company runs public mailing lists for many, many yeshivot and their divrei torah programs. --sambo ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 08:57:06AM +0200, sammy ominsky wrote: > On 08/02/2009, at 08:23, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > >> Anyone who got spam from "Rinat Zoref" and kept it is welcome to email >> me in private. >> Also, anyone who got spam from "divur.lasakim", likewise. >> And, whatever you do, KEEP THOSE EMAILS. I keep all of the Hebrew (and >> Israeli) spam I get. > > Why keep them? Is there really any way to benefit from this, or is it a > terrible waste of time. Should I stop filtering out Hebrew/Israeli > spam? I get a LOT of it, because my company runs public mailing lists > for many, many yeshivot and their divrei torah programs. Shachar seems to suggest that this might be used for a small claims court case in which the spammer may be sued for up to 1000 NIS per email. Slightly off-topic: I got annoyed by political spam that was sent to my work address (at least 4 messages, with a considerable size) Result: blacklisted mailing list messages from their provider (and notified them as well). While it might be legal, I personally find this behaviour unacceptable. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?
> Shachar seems to suggest that this might be used for a small claims > court case in which the spammer may be sued for up to 1000 NIS per > email. > I'll donate the 1000 NIS right back into anti-spam efforts or to KDE or something. > Slightly off-topic: I got annoyed by political spam that was sent to my > work address (at least 4 messages, with a considerable size) Result: > blacklisted mailing list messages from their provider (and notified them > as well). > > While it might be legal, I personally find this behaviour unacceptable. > The spam I got was political spam as well. This is legal? The message said at the bottom that it is legal, but I doubt it. What is special about political spam that it is excepted from the law? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 07:11:59AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Shachar seems to suggest that this might be used for a small claims court case in which the spammer may be sued for up to 1000 NIS per email. Does this only cover email from Israel, or can it be SPAM from Israeli companies sent from outside of Israeli? Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel g...@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
