Re: Adding Wireless to Cable Connection
On Thursday 08 October 2009, shimi wrote: The right way to do it is not with an Access Point. Someone needs to multiplex your connection to multiple devices. Since you have just one external IP address, someone needs to share it between your multiple machines and do magic that makes it (multiple unicast machines between one unicast address) work. We call that magic-maker a NAT router (which basically every home router does). Yeah, I realize that I need NAT (or PAT in Cisco terms), but I thought (I admit I didn't check) that the AP might do the NAT. So what you need is an Ethernet router (with an Ethernet port on his WAN port). Thing is, I was wondering why I need a router. I don't need it to do any routing decisions (unless I want to share files between connected PCs, which I don't). I do need NAT, but I kind of thought an AP would do that. Then I would suggest that you ditch the dialing part of the loop. If you don't, your router must support L2TP protocol to work with all ISPs. That doesn't always work well, even if supported. The preferred solution, IMHO, is to ask your ISP to move you to a dialer-less connection (which they dub MPLS) and then just set the router to obtain IP from DHCP - and you never have problems again. Does anyone want to comment on these two possibities - L2TP on the router versus MPLS ? Do common routers (eg. Edimax BR6204WG) support L2TP ? Is my ISP (HOT) likely to give me a MPLS connection without fee/hassle ? Are there any other solutions ? It also gives you pretty much a static IP, as long as you don't turn off your equipment for a long period. Also I don't think you can buy a router with a built in cable port in Israel... I haven't seen such in stores... and even if you do, HOT will have to agree to connect it to their network (they must put the MAC address on their systems for this to work...) - which I am really not sure they would agree. Well if that's the case, I certainly don't want to try replace the modem supplied by HOT. My 7.4 agorot, Thanks - worth at least 7.4 agorot ! -- Shimi On 10/8/09, Aharon Schkolnik aschkol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I am currently connected to the Internet via a HOT cable connection using the modem supplied by them and a single ethernet connection to my PC. I bring up the connection using a script which uses pptp. The PC also boots XP which connects using whatever program HOT supplied. I now need to ADD a wireless connection in addition to the fixed ethernet connection (for a laptop). For my taste, the right thing to do is to attach a wireless access point to the HOT modem. Since the modem has only a single ethernet connection, the access point would have to include an ethernet connection for the PC in addition to the ethernet connection to the HOT modem. The only problem with this solution is the cost - an ACCESS POINT D-LINK DAP-1160 costs over 300 NIS. My question is: should I consider buying a modem with cable+wireless+ethernet and using it instead of the HOT modem ? Will I save significant money ? Will I have trouble if I need support from HOT ? What modems work with HOT ? Are there problems setting them up to work to support Linux and XP ? TIA. -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: n900 preorder
ok, lets say i have someone who is traveling abroad. will the us version of the n900 work with orange ? cellcom ? pelephone ? (i.e. standards and frequencies) ? thanks, erez On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Michael Vasiliev mycr...@yandex.ru wrote: Customs are well aware of these services and will rip a huge hole in your wallet the very moment they see the remailer's from address. Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: If you insist, there are services for USA shipping addresses. You give their address in the USA as yours, they re-ship to wherever you like. 2009/10/10 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com het...@gmail.com: From the link you gave: Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S. Hetz 2009/10/10 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com erez0...@gmail.com i saw that i can pre-order the n900 for just 580$ (it's real price should be 500 euro) from amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Unlocked-Computer-3-5-Inch/dp/B002OB49SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=wirelessqid=1255160977sr=8-1 i was wondering what about customs, and will the us version work well in israel. does anybody know ? thanks, erez. ___ Linux-il mailing listlinux...@cs.huji.ac.ilhttp://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing listlinux...@cs.huji.ac.ilhttp://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing listlinux...@cs.huji.ac.ilhttp://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Sincerely yours, Michael Vasiliev ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: n900 preorder
Erez, The version on the amazon website states GSM quadband 850/900/1800/1900, which mean it will work with Orange Will it work 100%, I cannot say as you can't be 100% until you try. 2009/10/11 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com: ok, lets say i have someone who is traveling abroad. will the us version of the n900 work with orange ? cellcom ? pelephone ? (i.e. standards and frequencies) ? thanks, erez On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Michael Vasiliev mycr...@yandex.ru wrote: Customs are well aware of these services and will rip a huge hole in your wallet the very moment they see the remailer's from address. Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: If you insist, there are services for USA shipping addresses. You give their address in the USA as yours, they re-ship to wherever you like. 2009/10/10 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com: From the link you gave: Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S. Hetz 2009/10/10 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com i saw that i can pre-order the n900 for just 580$ (it's real price should be 500 euro) from amazon.com http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Unlocked-Computer-3-5-Inch/dp/B002OB49SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=wirelessqid=1255160977sr=8-1 i was wondering what about customs, and will the us version work well in israel. does anybody know ? thanks, erez. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Sincerely yours, Michael Vasiliev ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: n900 preorder
2009/10/11 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com: ok, lets say i have someone who is traveling abroad. will the us version of the n900 work with orange ? cellcom ? pelephone ? (i.e. standards and frequencies) ? Looking at Nokia's specs - http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/specifications/ * Quad-band GSM EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 * WCDMA 900/1700/2100 MHz It is not clear to me whether these co-exist in every device or it is either/or. I'd assume both EDGE and WCDMA - AFAIK it's normal in modern handsets. I suppose a 3G GSM sim from, say, Orange should work. EDGE should be backwards-compatible, in the sense that if there is no EDGE coverage it should still work with GPRS, etc. I have not tried, though - it is an assumption only. From the Amazon link you posted it seems that it is GSM indeed # This unlocked cell phone is compatible with GSM carriers like ATT and T-Mobile. Not all carrier features may be supported. It will not work with CDMA carriers like Verizon Wireless, Alltel and Sprint. Can anyone explain authoritatively what unlocked means? Is it (as I suspect) just an assurance to the iPhone-crazy Americans that they don't have to pay ATT for 10 years or whatever? Or is it modified in some unspecified way? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | o...@goldshmidt.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: n900 preorder
On 11/10/2009, at 11:41, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Can anyone explain authoritatively what unlocked means? Normally, when a device is sold new, it means not factory-locked to a single carrier. When sold second-hand, it usually means has been unlocked from the carrier to which it was locked when new. These being new, I expect it means the former, never locked to a carrier. --sambo ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
