Mandriva - new distro update with mdkonline
Let me first say that I usually do a clean install rather than an update, so I'm a bit hesitant about this. So here's my question. mdkonline which usually notifies me of RPM package updates, notified me that a new version (2010.1) is available. When I choose to upgrade, I'm given 2 options - Free and PowerPack. Since my original installation of 2010.0 (and previous versions) was with Mandriva One, I'm worried that choosing Free, will cause problems with proprietary software such as Flash and NVidia drivers. What should I do? -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.12.4 (KDE 4.3.5) on LINUX Mandriva 2010.0 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Fwd: Rakudo Star - a useful, usable, early adopter distribution of Perl 6
-- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Rakudo Star - a useful, usable, early adopter distribution of Perl 6 Date: Thursday 29 July 2010, 15:23:35 From: Patrick R. Michaud pmich...@pobox.com To: perl6-langu...@perl.org, perl6-compi...@perl.org, perl6-us...@perl.org, parrot-...@lists.parrot.org On behalf of the Rakudo and Perl 6 development teams, I'm happy to announce the July 2010 release of Rakudo Star, a useful and usable distribution of Perl 6. The tarball for the July 2010 release is available from http://github.com/rakudo/star/downloads. Rakudo Star is aimed at early adopters of Perl 6. We know that it still has some bugs, it is far slower than it ought to be, and there are some advanced pieces of the Perl 6 language specification that aren't implemented yet. But Rakudo Perl 6 in its current form is also proving to be viable (and fun) for developing applications and exploring a great new language. These Star releases are intended to make Perl 6 more widely available to programmers, grow the Perl 6 codebase, and gain additional end-user feedback about the Perl 6 language and Rakudo's implementation of it. In the Perl 6 world, we make a distinction between the language (Perl 6) and specific implementations of the language such as Rakudo Perl. Rakudo Star is a distribution that includes release #31 of the Rakudo Perl 6 compiler [1], version 2.6.0 of the Parrot Virtual Machine [2], and various modules, documentation, and other resources collected from the Perl 6 community. We plan to make Rakudo Star releases on a monthly schedule, with occasional special releases in response to important bugfixes or changes. Some of the many cool Perl 6 features that are available in this release of Rakudo Star: * Perl 6 grammars and regexes * formal parameter lists and signatures * metaoperators * gradual typing * a powerful object model, including roles and classes * lazy list evaluation * multiple dispatch * smart matching * junctions and autothreading * operator overloading (limited forms for now) * introspection * currying * a rich library of builtin operators, functions, and types * an interactive read-evaluation-print loop * Unicode at the codepoint level * resumable exceptions There are some key features of Perl 6 that Rakudo Star does not yet handle appropriately, although they will appear in upcoming releases. Thus, we do not consider Rakudo Star to be a Perl 6.0.0 or 1.0 release. Some of the not-quite-there features include: * nested package definitions * binary objects, native types, pack and unpack * typed arrays * macros * state variables * threads and concurrency * Unicode strings at levels other than codepoints * pre and post constraints, and some other phasers * interactive readline that understands Unicode * backslash escapes in regex [...] character classes * non-blocking I/O * most of Synopsis 9 * perl6doc or pod manipulation tools In many places we've tried to make Rakudo smart enough to inform the programmer that a given feature isn't implemented, but there are many that we've missed. Bug reports about missing and broken features are welcomed. See http://perl6.org/ for links to much more information about Perl 6, including documentation, example code, tutorials, reference materials, specification documents, and other supporting resources. Rakudo Star also bundles a number of modules; a partial list of the modules provided by this release include: * Blizkost - enables some Perl 5 modules to be used from within Rakudo Perl 6 * MiniDBI - a simple database interface for Rakudo Perl 6 * Zavolaj - call C library functions from Rakudo Perl 6 * SVG and SVG::Plot - create scalable vector graphics * HTTP::Daemon - a simple HTTP server * XML::Writer - generate XML * YAML - dump Perl 6 objects as YAML * Term::ANSIColor - color screen output using ANSI escape sequences * Test::Mock - create mock objects and check what methods were called * Math::Model - describe and run mathematical models * Config::INI - parse and write configuration files * File::Find - find files in a given directory * LWP::Simple - fetch resources from the web These are not considered core Perl 6 modules, and as module development for Perl 6 continues to mature, future releases of Rakudo Star will likely come bundled with a different set of modules. Deprecation policies for bundled modules will be created over time, and other Perl 6 distributions may choose different sets of modules or policies. More information about Perl 6 modules can be found at http://modules.perl6.org/. Rakudo Star also contains a draft of a Perl 6 book -- see docs/UsingPerl6-draft.pdf in the release tarball. The development team thanks all of the contributors and sponsors for making Rakudo Star possible. If you would like to contribute, see
Re: Mandriva - new distro update with mdkonline
Hi Shlomo, On Friday 30 July 2010 09:42:11 Shlomo Solomon wrote: Let me first say that I usually do a clean install rather than an update, so I'm a bit hesitant about this. So here's my question. mdkonline which usually notifies me of RPM package updates, notified me that a new version (2010.1) is available. When I choose to upgrade, I'm given 2 options - Free and PowerPack. Since my original installation of 2010.0 (and previous versions) was with Mandriva One, I'm worried that choosing Free, will cause problems with proprietary software such as Flash and NVidia drivers. What should I do? You can find the packages for Flash and the Nvidia drivers on the non-free repository and/or in PLF - http://plf.zarb.org/ . Assuming something will break, you can always install it using urpmi this way. So you can safely install Mandriva Free. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Freecell Solver - http://fc-solve.berlios.de/ God considered inflicting XSLT as the tenth plague of Egypt, but then decided against it because he thought it would be too evil. Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply . ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Playing TAU lectures from videos.tau.ac.il
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:46:08 +0300 Ariel Biener ar...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: [...] I do not like prejudice. The only way to fix TAU issues is via the help desk. Trust me, we're not your usual Joe ISP. We are a strong Unix/Linux shop, and most of our applications, especially web apps, are based on open source. Actually most of your student related sites are IE only and I've seen no interest what so ever to try and change that. As a teacher in TAU I have a constant issue working around TAU website limitations. Virtual tau is one notorious subject (I'm not uploading exercises for my students to virtual due to that reason) Seker Horaa has also been horrible last time I checked (I haven't bothered for a long time since I got fed up with the constant response: use IE, so I just didn't use in instead) The only answer I have ever managed to get from the help desk is use IE, so I personally stopped trying, and it sounds like accessing this list for help is probably the only means to get an answer at the moment, unless you can prove otherwise. The glove I believe is with you at the moment. Prove us wrong ... -- Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: ar...@post.tau.ac.il PGP: http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Playing TAU lectures from videos.tau.ac.il
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:51:45 +0300 Ariel Biener ar...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: [...] About your second point. I was always disappointed when using the official support channel for linux support. Usually the answer is we don't support linux. The linux support you get at Linux-IL, is actually much better than the official channel. As I already said on the previous mail, your prejudice here is uncalled for. I really don't care what usual reply you get when you call X ISP or whomever. Use TAU HelpDesk. Have your friend open a ticket, the link is: h t t p : / / h e l p d e s k . t a u . a c . i l Have your friend login with his/her user/password, and help him/her fill in the request. You really don't like reading emails properly, do you? The usual in this case is TAU help desk, and I can second that. I've never managed to get anything other than we don't support linux from the TAU help desk regarding anything web related (for servers I do get responses, albeit not very knowledgeable) best, -- Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: ar...@post.tau.ac.il PGP: http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Mandriva - new distro update with mdkonline
Thanks, BTW - after writing, I thought of a different approach. I updated a virtual 2010.0 machine under VirtualBox. The installer crashed half way through, but after re-booting, I was able to update all packages without any problems. The machine works, so I'll run the update on my main machine. On Friday 30 July 2010, Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi Shlomo, On Friday 30 July 2010 09:42:11 Shlomo Solomon wrote: Let me first say that I usually do a clean install rather than an update, so I'm a bit hesitant about this. So here's my question. mdkonline which usually notifies me of RPM package updates, notified me that a new version (2010.1) is available. When I choose to upgrade, I'm given 2 options - Free and PowerPack. Since my original installation of 2010.0 (and previous versions) was with Mandriva One, I'm worried that choosing Free, will cause problems with proprietary software such as Flash and NVidia drivers. What should I do? You can find the packages for Flash and the Nvidia drivers on the non-free repository and/or in PLF - http://plf.zarb.org/ . Assuming something will break, you can always install it using urpmi this way. So you can safely install Mandriva Free. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.12.4 (KDE 4.3.5) on LINUX Mandriva 2010.0 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Playing TAU lectures from videos.tau.ac.il
At 13:41:19 on Friday Friday 30 July 2010, Micha Feigin mi...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:46:08 +0300 Ariel Biener ar...@post.tau.ac.il wrote: [...] I do not like prejudice. The only way to fix TAU issues is via the help desk. Trust me, we're not your usual Joe ISP. We are a strong Unix/Linux shop, and most of our applications, especially web apps, are based on open source. Actually most of your student related sites are IE only and I've seen no interest what so ever to try and change that. As a teacher in TAU I have a constant issue working around TAU website limitations. Virtual tau is one notorious subject (I'm not uploading exercises for my students to virtual due to that reason) Seker Horaa has also been horrible last time I checked (I haven't bothered for a long time since I got fed up with the constant response: use IE, so I just didn't use in instead) The only answer I have ever managed to get from the help desk is use IE, so I personally stopped trying, and it sounds like accessing this list for help is probably the only means to get an answer at the moment, unless you can prove otherwise. The glove I believe is with you at the moment. Prove us wrong ... So you are saying that the Trust me is salesman talk? Hot air? Sucked out of his thumb? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Application Recommendation
Thanks Boris... I see none of you out there use Israeli Oriented versions of the popular Linux software... Is there a web site I can find information about standard Linux apps and their compatibility to Israel / Hebrew ? Something along the lines of Linux App Finder - but with a local twist? Thanks! .::. Amichai Rotman Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] .::. בברכה, עמיחי רוטמן תמיכה טכנית משרד: 072-2502008 פקס: 072-2502009 supp...@geeex.net http://www.geeex.net chrome-extension://http//:www.geeex.net chrome-extension://http//:www.geeex.net Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install 2010/7/25 Boris shtrasman borissh1...@gmail.com 2010/7/24 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il Hi all, I am looking for a Linux app I can install on my Ubuntu Lucid box to manage my home finance. My needs are: 1. Easy to use 2. Compatible / suitable for Israeli banks (i.e: ILS / NIS currency available) 3. I mostly intend to digitize existing recipes I got at the different stores and perform manipulations on the data (i.e: reports). The best would be some kind of a Database functionality to create the recipes templates and then fill in the items of each. For Example: Shufersal Template will contain the time, date, address of the store and so on Thanks! .::. Amichai Rotman Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] .::. בברכה, עמיחי רוטמן תמיכה טכנית משרד: 072-2502008 פקס: 072-2502009 supp...@geeex.net http://www.geeex.net Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Hi Amichai, I would recommend GnuCash.org, don't about Hebrew support (never used it). -- -- -- Boris Shtrasman |Gnu/Linux Software developer | | IM : bori...@jabber.org | | URL : myrtfm.blogspot.com| ___ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Application Recommendation
GnuCash does support Hebrew though GTK. It has a bug when exporting reports to HTML, but otherwise fine. I use it for my home stuff and also for Hamakor's accounting (since 2003 by alon altman) 2010/7/30 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il Thanks Boris... I see none of you out there use Israeli Oriented versions of the popular Linux software... Is there a web site I can find information about standard Linux apps and their compatibility to Israel / Hebrew ? Something along the lines of Linux App Finder - but with a local twist? Thanks! .::. Amichai Rotman Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] .::. בברכה, עמיחי רוטמן תמיכה טכנית משרד: 072-2502008 פקס: 072-2502009 supp...@geeex.net http://www.geeex.net Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install 2010/7/25 Boris shtrasman borissh1...@gmail.com 2010/7/24 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il Hi all, I am looking for a Linux app I can install on my Ubuntu Lucid box to manage my home finance. My needs are: 1. Easy to use 2. Compatible / suitable for Israeli banks (i.e: ILS / NIS currency available) 3. I mostly intend to digitize existing recipes I got at the different stores and perform manipulations on the data (i.e: reports). The best would be some kind of a Database functionality to create the recipes templates and then fill in the items of each. For Example: Shufersal Template will contain the time, date, address of the store and so on Thanks! .::. Amichai Rotman Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] .::. בברכה, עמיחי רוטמן תמיכה טכנית משרד: 072-2502008 פקס: 072-2502009 supp...@geeex.net http://www.geeex.net Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Hi Amichai, I would recommend GnuCash.org, don't about Hebrew support (never used it). -- -- -- Boris Shtrasman |Gnu/Linux Software developer | | IM : bori...@jabber.org | | URL : myrtfm.blogspot.com| ___ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
DHCP Authentication method?
Hi, I'm looking to test a very simple DHCP authentication, to allow a user to get a dynamic IP. In order to authenticate the user, the user will need to type a number which will be compared to a number stored in a flat text file. If he will write the correct number, he'll get a full web access. If not, wrong number. the authentication won't let the user do any ssh to the machine, just web browsing. I thought doing it with PAM, iptables and NoCatAuth, but it seems that NoCatAuth is outdated (it doesn't have any updates since 2004). Does anyone has any recommendation for any way to use it? I don't want to use MySQL, LDAP - it's an overkill solution for something that should be simple.. Thanks, Hetz -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: DHCP Authentication method?
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, I'm looking to test a very simple DHCP authentication, to allow a user to get a dynamic IP. In order to authenticate the user, the user will need to type a number which will be compared to a number stored in a flat text file. If he will write the correct number, he'll get a full web access. If not, wrong number. the authentication won't let the user do any ssh to the machine, just web browsing. I thought doing it with PAM, iptables and NoCatAuth, but it seems that NoCatAuth is outdated (it doesn't have any updates since 2004). Does anyone has any recommendation for any way to use it? I don't want to use MySQL, LDAP - it's an overkill solution for something that should be simple.. What does any of the above have to do with DHCP? Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: DHCP Authentication method?
Sorry, at first I thought to do authentication using the DHCP suboption. NM :) Hetz 2010/7/30 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, I'm looking to test a very simple DHCP authentication, to allow a user to get a dynamic IP. In order to authenticate the user, the user will need to type a number which will be compared to a number stored in a flat text file. If he will write the correct number, he'll get a full web access. If not, wrong number. the authentication won't let the user do any ssh to the machine, just web browsing. I thought doing it with PAM, iptables and NoCatAuth, but it seems that NoCatAuth is outdated (it doesn't have any updates since 2004). Does anyone has any recommendation for any way to use it? I don't want to use MySQL, LDAP - it's an overkill solution for something that should be simple.. What does any of the above have to do with DHCP? Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd.http://www.lingnu.com -- my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org Skype: heunique MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Exporting CSV file with hebrew
I am trying to export a file in CSV format that some of it's columns are hebrew. I would like people to be able to import it to excel, open-office and google docs. In open-office I had no problem importing the file in any encoding I used, however I could not import it to google docs. Other people with excel reported they can not see the hebrew also. Does someone have any idea how to export the file so that the hebrew will be readable? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Exporting CSV file with hebrew
My experience is limited to whatever my CPA is using (I think he uses Excel). By experimenting with utf-8, cp862, iso_8859-8 and windows-1255 encodings, we found that windows-1255 worked for him. If you find that Google Docs and Excel have contradictory expectations, then I suggest that you allow people to export the CSV file in either Google Docs compatible encoding or Excel compatible encoding. --- Omer On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 00:02 +0300, Ori Idan wrote: I am trying to export a file in CSV format that some of it's columns are hebrew. I would like people to be able to import it to excel, open-office and google docs. In open-office I had no problem importing the file in any encoding I used, however I could not import it to google docs. Other people with excel reported they can not see the hebrew also. Does someone have any idea how to export the file so that the hebrew will be readable? -- No actual electrons, animals or children were harmed by writing this E-mail message. My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Exporting CSV file with hebrew
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: My experience is limited to whatever my CPA is using (I think he uses Excel). By experimenting with utf-8, cp862, iso_8859-8 and windows-1255 encodings, we found that windows-1255 worked for him. If you find that Google Docs and Excel have contradictory expectations, then I suggest that you allow people to export the CSV file in either Google Docs compatible encoding or Excel compatible encoding. What is google docs compatible format? -- Ori Idan ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Exporting CSV file with hebrew
On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 00:20 +0300, Ori Idan wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Omer Zak w...@zak.co.il wrote: My experience is limited to whatever my CPA is using (I think he uses Excel). By experimenting with utf-8, cp862, iso_8859-8 and windows-1255 encodings, we found that windows-1255 worked for him. If you find that Google Docs and Excel have contradictory expectations, then I suggest that you allow people to export the CSV file in either Google Docs compatible encoding or Excel compatible encoding. What is google docs compatible format? By trial, I found that utf-8 is the Google Docs compatible encoding: 1. Create in Google Docs a spreadsheet with Hebrew text. 2. Export it in CSV format to a file in your PC. 3. Open the file in gedit and modify some cells. 4. Import the file into Google Docs and demonstrate that it displays correctly the modified values. 5. By means of xxd -g 1 (or other means), confirm that the file is in utf-8 encoding. By the way, I expect Excel to be configurable to accept also other encodings - but you'll have to find how to do it, and to write clear instructions for the users. --- Omer -- Bottom posters are filthy heretics and infidels and ought to be burned on the stake after having been tarred, feathered and having rotten eggs thrown at their faces! My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
