Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 05:44:33 +0300 Alexander Indenbaum alexander.indenb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, This is off topic, still probably crowd here has relevant experience, so ... I'm considering bringing Sony laptop from US. My main concerns are: 1. Engraving Hebrew on keyboard Asked at some stores at the time. Around 140nis. didn't do it as I blind type hebrew and not so much at that. Annoys my wife though, but so does the linux on it ... 2. Service/warranty Horrible, terrible, horrendous. Unless things changed any, I brought a Sony from the states a few years back, the cpu burned (bad cooling or something). I took it to ישפאר, don't remembered how much they charged for checking the problem, I do remember that their prices were higher than anyone else though, but they didn't know how to repair it and told me that I have to send it to the states. In any case at least at the time they weren't official importers according to them and Sony and thus didn't honor international warranty, only theirs. I ended up sending the laptop to the states. The support was no use at all, officials bounced me around and didn't bother returning promised replies. They ended up charging 250$ to fix it under warranty + 140$ ups + vat. Does anyone has a pointer or recommendation about (1). How could provide such service in Israel? Does anyone has an experience servicing laptops purchased in US in Israel (probably by ישפאר)? Like I said, hoping it's a model ישפאר knows they will charge you an arm and a leg for it and won't honor international warranty. Otherwise they will tell you to send it back to the states. I don't know if mac camera cover sony, I used them for the thinkpad I brought a year or so ago (from BH at the time, who don't use them any more I'm afraid). Tried using them on some problem with the thinkpad but it turns out that it has an international warranty (they claimed it doesn't) and that IBM Israel honors the international warranty, took them a week but they repaired both problems with no fuss. Current thinkpads are not as good as they used to be, but if you want warranty and reliability then they are a much better option then Sony. Go only for the T or X series though. If I'm not mistaken apples are also good for that purpose (I can ask again but a if I'm not mistaken a friend of mine got some spares for his power supply under the international warranty with no issues) Not sure if I would bother with anthing other then macs and thinkpads these days (again, note that thinkpads, not other lenvos, specifically only t and x models) ~baum ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:31:45 +0300 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Engraving Hebrew on keyboard I actually just painted the keyboard letter keys black, so there are no English or Hebrew letters! Now my laptop is less usable to thieves, and my typing speed has increased dramatically. 2. Service/warranty Dell told me that I would have no warranty on my Inspiron, and in fact I did not try to get the laptop serviced at all despite having some problems. I think that IBM (now Lenovo) had a worldwide warranty program once, designed for business travelers. On T and X models you can expand you standard 1 year warranty to an international 3 year one. Some places already sell it with the international warranty, they are not always aware of it though and where it is honored depends on the specific model (you can check on the lenovo site based on model number and serial number). Didn't try to service a model supposedly not covered in Israel to see if they still honor it though. By the way, if you are buying a thinkpad in the states and have a about 3-5 weeks advance notice, it can be a lot cheaper ordering directly from lenovo as you can customize your laptop quite a bit and cut costs on things that you don't want. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Leonid Podolny wrote: Does anyone has an experience servicing laptops purchased in US in Israel (probably by ישפאר)? I considered it a year and a half ago, so I just called the Israel representatives of all laptop manufacturers I could think of. Sony were the only ones that plainly said that I will not get any warranty service. Most of the others claimed that they will fully respect the warranty. This could already have changed, so you should just call them (or others, if you decide to get other brand). iDigital, the people that sell Apple laptops here will refuse to fix them under warranty, even if you take them to the same place the send them to before selling them. Since iDigital is just a representative not part of Apple, you may get service if you take it anywhere else, but it would have to be out of Israel. Geoff. -- geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
Alexander Indenbaum wrote: Hello, This is off topic, still probably crowd here has relevant experience, so ... I'm considering bringing Sony laptop from US. My main concerns are: 1. Engraving Hebrew on keyboard 2. Service/warranty Does anyone has a pointer or recommendation about (1). How could provide such service in Israel? Does anyone has an experience servicing laptops purchased in US in Israel (probably by ישפאר)? I have experience with HP laptops bought in Thailand , Acer bought here. HP was fixed and parts was replaced free of charge (under warranty) (CPM in Tel Aviv), Acer laptops are much more problematic even with Israeli bought laptops (Newpan Ashdod). Note , that in many countries the battery and plastic parts are under the warranty , while in Israel most off the time it is not. Since the battery get a special warranty (shorter) and the plastic parts get no warranty at all. ~baum ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
Regarding engraving on the keyboard hebrew, I know there is someone in tel aviv which does it for around 100 nis. I didn't do it, but if you want I know someone who did and I can ask the phone number. As for the warranty, sony indeed are nasty in this field. Try to ask them if you bring it with international warranty what will they do in such a case. They have european warranty which you can repair only in europe, usa warranty. On 6/2/09, Alexander Indenbaum alexander.indenb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, This is off topic, still probably crowd here has relevant experience, so ... I'm considering bringing Sony laptop from US. My main concerns are: 1. Engraving Hebrew on keyboard 2. Service/warranty Does anyone has a pointer or recommendation about (1). How could provide such service in Israel? Does anyone has an experience servicing laptops purchased in US in Israel (probably by ישפאר)? ~baum ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
Hello As for warranty, go to www.mackcam.com. they sell international warranty. You can buy a warranty to things that you buy (including computers) within 30 day for purches and be covered world wile (read the agreement, sometime you get the cost of the repair back and sometime you are served in places they have an agreement with) I know people are using it for Nikon cameras that they buy in the USA and are not covered by the local dealer. Shahar - Original Message - From: Leonid Podolny leonidp.li...@gmail.com To: Alexander Indenbaum alexander.indenb...@gmail.com; Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard Does anyone has an experience servicing laptops purchased in US in Israel (probably by ישפאר)? I considered it a year and a half ago, so I just called the Israel representatives of all laptop manufacturers I could think of. Sony were the only ones that plainly said that I will not get any warranty service. Most of the others claimed that they will fully respect the warranty. This could already have changed, so you should just call them (or others, if you decide to get other brand). ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
Kasir Graf (http://www.kasirgraf.co.il/), in southern Tel Aviv (near the central bus station) -- 100 NIS, 20 minutes and you have a Hebrew keyboard. I was very satisfied. There's also another company in Holon, can't remember their name but Google will find it quickly. - Original Message From: Alexander Indenbaum alexander.indenb...@gmail.com To: linux-il List linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 5:44:33 AM Subject: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard Hello, This is off topic, still probably crowd here has relevant experience, so ... I'm considering bringing Sony laptop from US. My main concerns are: 1. Engraving Hebrew on keyboard 2. Service/warranty Does anyone has a pointer or recommendation about (1). How could provide such service in Israel? Does anyone has an experience servicing laptops purchased in US in Israel (probably by ישפאר)? ~baum ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
Alexander Indenbaum wrote: Hello, This is off topic, still probably crowd here has relevant experience, so ... I'm considering bringing Sony laptop from US. My main concerns are: 1. Engraving Hebrew on keyboard 2. Service/warranty Does anyone has a pointer or recommendation about (1). How could provide such service in Israel? Does anyone has an experience servicing laptops purchased in US in Israel (probably by ישפאר)? ~baum I had a Dell which was bought in France[1] (with a French azerty keyboard). I bought the luminous keyboard stickers, which sort of did the job (the most used keys faded to white after about three months, but it was still better than seeing azerty). After about half a year they keyboard broke. I took it to one of the Dell support centers, and got it fixed under warranty without a hitch. Unlike the Israeli warranty, which was same day, they only promised five work days, but still I did not have to pay for the fix. Same goes several months later when the battery and CD malfunctioned (the battery was dead, and the CD would not burn). The batter was replaced a week before its warranty expired. It is also worth mentioning that the keyboard was fixed by replacing it with a new one. Needless to say, the new keyboard was a Hebrew/qwerty keyboard, so that was another problem solved. Shachar [1] - http://blog.shemesh.biz/?p=517 -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
1. Engraving Hebrew on keyboard I actually just painted the keyboard letter keys black, so there are no English or Hebrew letters! Now my laptop is less usable to thieves, and my typing speed has increased dramatically. 2. Service/warranty Dell told me that I would have no warranty on my Inspiron, and in fact I did not try to get the laptop serviced at all despite having some problems. I think that IBM (now Lenovo) had a worldwide warranty program once, designed for business travelers. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
2009/6/2 Alexander Indenbaum alexander.indenb...@gmail.com Hello, This is off topic, still probably crowd here has relevant experience, so ... I'm considering bringing Sony laptop from US. My main concerns are: 1. Engraving Hebrew on keyboard I got sets of stickers sent to me from Israel and they work great on my keyboards (both white on black and vice-versa). So far, about 6 months of not very heavy use and the stickers are as good as new - you can hardly tell that there are stickers on the keys. I think they were bought at Bug but I don't have a package for reference. An engraving would probably last longer, in the very long run... --Amos ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
So far, about 6 months of not very heavy use and the stickers are as good as new - you can hardly tell that there are stickers on the keys. I think they were bought at Bug but I don't have a package for reference. Bah, Bug is an expensive Windows shop. If someone outside Israel needs the stickers, mail me and I'll buy them at the university store and mail them. Tell me if you prefer stickers for black or white keyboards. An engraving would probably last longer, in the very long run... Certainly. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
http://www.pcgraph.co.il/ Been there several times. Good service. Make sure the order specifies: Size of engraving, font, color. They even have sample layouts in several languages. Moish ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
Been there several times. Good service. Make sure the order specifies: Size of engraving, font, color. They even have sample layouts in several languages. Thanks, Moish. I just asked how much it would cost to change the Windows key into a Tux key. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
Hello, This is off topic, still probably crowd here has relevant experience, so ... I'm considering bringing Sony laptop from US. My main concerns are: 1. Engraving Hebrew on keyboard 2. Service/warranty Does anyone has a pointer or recommendation about (1). How could provide such service in Israel? Does anyone has an experience servicing laptops purchased in US in Israel (probably by ישפאר)? ~baum ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Off topic] Engraving Hebrew on US laptop keyboard
Does anyone has an experience servicing laptops purchased in US in Israel (probably by ישפאר)? I considered it a year and a half ago, so I just called the Israel representatives of all laptop manufacturers I could think of. Sony were the only ones that plainly said that I will not get any warranty service. Most of the others claimed that they will fully respect the warranty. This could already have changed, so you should just call them (or others, if you decide to get other brand). ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
